November 3, 2008 11:49 AM
Broncos chat transcipt, Nov. 3
Jeff_Legwold I'm late...sorry...I'm ready
SuperSeason any chance Kubiak will get fired?
danoreilly Jeff - After watching this team's play the last few games, and Marshall's interviews last nght, how close is this team to disintegrating? Has Shahahan lost control?
dlprobert put all his eggs in Cutler's basket....reminds me of the early Elway years....where everyone knew to stop the Broncs all ya had ta do was rush....we have NO running game
SuperSeason what happened with Heimerdinger?
SuperSeason his O in Tenn is good
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Jeff_Legwold In Houston? Always a chance in the league, especially when a team owner was talking about making the playoffs as Texans owner Bob McNair was before the season.
SuperSeason even with kerry collins
dlprobert who cares super...thhey are on another team...go to their site
SuperSeason maybe kubiak can come back
clerk When he throws the ball, the defense knows where he's throwing. thats on him not the coach
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dlprobert Someone needs ta smack the crap outta the "no-Mind"...after a bye week....that is all he can come up with....????
SuperSeason agreed
Jeff_Legwold I think a lot of players are frustrated, but so are the coaches. A head coach can only do so much as far as getting ready to play, avoiding turnovers and not missing tackles. In the end the players have to make it happen. I don't think Mike has lost control, but there is definitely a lot of frustration around the building.
dlprobert Well clerk......if we had a running game, established the fact that we were going to run, maybe Cutler would have time to throw
SuperSeason is it me or paymah is not as good as foxworth?
danoreilly so at what point does Bowlen issue a "win or else" ultimatum, maybe not only to Shanahan, but to the entier team?
dlprobert SHANNNY OUT MASTER-MINDED HIMSELF.....14 YDS RUSHING...THAT'S A JOKE----ON US, THE FANS
clerk Hard to run when you are always playing from behind
SuperSeason i don't think shanny will be fired anytime soon
dlprobert The way they played last night....Holy Cross coulda beat em
Jeff_Legwold Bowlen has always supported Mike through the years and continues to support him now. The injuries on defense are catching up to them...Champ Bailey, D.J. Williams, Boss Bailey and likely Marlon McCree for a little while. That's four starters right there.
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SuperSeason Mcree?
mr58 Boss Bailey is always hurt
carver so jeff, then we can expect the same end of season press confrerence from shanny as always? "Injuries are to blame, and I'm firing the d-coordinator"
danoreilly true - but how effective was the defense WITH the 4 starters who are not out? I think the pieces are there (offensive line, linebackers, TE's, WR's) but we just can't seem to get everything together.
dlprobert Shanny is trying to make the eam something it isn't....why doesn't he get rid of the defensive coordinator and find a local high school coach to fill the spot....we'd be better
danoreilly slowik is trying to play defense with somebody else's draft picks. I don't htink you can blame him for this after 8 games.
dlprobert even with the above-mentioned hurt players....the effort from the defensive team/coaches is horrendous
Jeff_Legwold Exactly, the defense was struggling before anybody got hurt, but they played better yesterday when they didn't use the 3-4, a defense they don't really have the personnel to play. They played a more basic, fundmental approach and it worked a ltitle better. But D.J.'s injury is going to make things more difficult now.
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SuperSeason well how many pts did they score off of INT?
SuperSeason can't blame that on the D
SuperSeason How bad is Pittman's injury?
mr58 People keep saying that the defense played better yesterday...I don't neccisarily agree...when they needed to stop someone at the end of the game, they couldn't...and let's don't forget...this was a team that won a single game last year
broncofan_h Jeff- I was at the game yesterday and noticed what seemed to be a pretty cold relationship between Cutler and Marshall. Marshall kept looking at the sideline as if to say "he isn't even looking my way). Is something going on between them that the media has seen?
Jeff_Legwold Pittman's injury could be serious. A player getting stingers after every tackle is usually a sign of something that needs plenty of recovery time, at least in my previous years around the league.
SuperNico I'm worried about DJ Williams, hopefully the MRI will return negative. Anyone hear anything yet?
SuperSeason seems like anyone they got FA on D has not turned out well last few seasons?
dlprobert let's see...the broncs over the past 4 games...give up 60 pts off of turnovers while getting 0, that's right...the Broncos have been out-scored 60-0 off of turnovers in the last 4 games....that says it all
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SuperSeason the marshall thing made no sense
Jeff_Legwold Cutler has to follow the defensive reads and if the defense is aligned to take Marshall away, that is going to take Cutler away from Marshall. And folks were saying he was looking to Marshall too much before, so there is a balance there somewhere. But people are going to press Marshall more at the line of scrimmage if he doesn't make himself some more room. The Dolphins said they wanted to get right up on him and it worked.
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mr58 My opinion...coaches are responsible for turnovers...that's football 101...you coach not turning over the ball
SuperSeason and he should expect to see more of that from now on
mlwlegal bottom line is they have no talent of defense outside of champ and DJ Williams. then they have no talent at running back.
Jeff_Legwold D.J. is likely looking at least a month out and could be more if they find a little more trouble in the knee.
SuperSeason how can you coach for all those INTs?
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SuperSeason Webster, winborn Niko
mr58 You coach NOT to throw into coverage
SuperSeason great LBs
danoreilly you can coach "don't turn it over" but that doesn't stop a 325# tackle from smacking the ball out with his helmet. Simple physics. But you can coach better choices, perhaps, wtih throwing passes.
SuperSeason hmmmm
mr58 I agree
dlprobert Jeff, what happened to "the Mastermind" and having 2 weeks to prepare for this game? If that's the kind of gameplan we get to see coming off a bye week, maybe the "Birdbrain" oughta let someone else run the show
SuperSeason none of those INTs were really what you called "into coverage"
mr58 I think Jay is turning into a head case
SuperNico The one positive I saw in Jay Cutler's game was his check downs. Getting the ball to Peyton Hillis as many times as he did shows me he's not relying to much on Marshall, Royal and Stokley.
SuperSeason just terrible throws
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clerk Is Cutler capable of going through his progressions and finding his third and fourth options?
Jeff_Legwold The old adage is the guy with the ball has the last word. And sometimes quarterbacks force the ball, sometimes young quarterback with strong arms really force the ball. It's been that way for decades. It's part of growing in a job where you make a lot of money, a lot of people pay to see you play and you make your mistakes in front of everybody.
mr58 Not if he doesn't have the time
dlprobert Shanny has put too much on Cutler....takes the blame from him
broncofan_h Anyone else see the pee wee football players play the mascots at halftime. Maybe those pee wee coaches could help our coaches because those kids knew how to tackle. Get low and wrap up. There are many Broncos who could learn that.
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mr58 I agree broncofan...to quote Lombardi..."Grab, Grab, Grab"
SuperNico Well, we knew when he was drafted that he was a Gunslinger QB, and sometimes the good comes with the bad, i.e. Elway, Farve, etc.
SuperSeason expect paymah to keep getting the kind of attention he got yesterday til champ comes back
dlprobert PLAIN AND SIMPLE....WITH 2 WEEKS TO PREPARE....THIS WAS ONE SAG DISPLAY OF GAMEPLANNING
dlprobert SAD
mr58 I agree
bronco87 Does Torain start Thursday?
dlprobert I hope so
SuperSeason probably
danoreilly what difference does torain make?
mr58 My mom could get 14 yards Thurs
SuperSeason maybe 20 yds rushing
SuperSeason stillmore than 14
SuperNico With the injuries i don't see how he won't start, unless we put Hillis back there, which may not be too bad of an idea
Jeff_Legwold Given their situation at running back, probably will be Torain starting with Andre Hall playing on third down. That could depend on Young's status, but he's not full speed yet.
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SuperSeason is mike bellstill available? LOL
dlprobert I know Shanny is afraid to run the ball with Hall and Young, neither can hold onto the ball to save their lives, but as a "mastermind" he sure coulda game-planned better, especially coming off a bye week
SuperNico I'd take Tatum Bell at this point
danoreilly Everybody sees torain as a panacea, but the guy's first NFL experience was yesterday. He's not proven anything yet.
mr58 Wha's Cecil doing?
SuperSeason just have locks on all the lockers
SuperSeason give bradley van pelt a call
SuperSeason we can use him at SS
dlprobert In my wheelchair, I coulda gotten 14 yds....the "Birdbrain" got away from the run
SuperSeason FS
clerk Is Mike Anderson still in the league
SuperSeason ron dayne?
SuperSeason LOL
mr58 BVP would make a good addition...passing or throwing...run our own wildcat
SuperNico I was thinking Rod Bernstein, LOL.
SuperSeason LOL
SuperSeason nice
Jeff_Legwold He had to get away from the run. Pittman couldn't play and may have hurt his neck worse staying in the game. Torain has only practiced two weeks. Hall missed time last week becauseof his ankle and Young wasn't in uniform. Their run game was done when Pittman went to the sideline.
dlprobert Terrell Davis....please come out of retirement
SuperSeason How about Hillis and Larsen?
SuperSeason that would be decent
SuperNico Hillis at HB, Larsen at FB!!
SuperSeason yep
SuperSeason i like that
dlprobert Hall and Young are both jokes....fumble-machines
SuperSeason couldn't hurt
SuperSeason hmmmm
SuperSeason 2000 yd season
TheHammer Let's face it. The rurunning game is bad. The Broncos don't have the type of back they need on the roster. They need guys built like Steven Jackson, Lawrence Maroney and Jonathan Stewart. But each year they pass on those tpe of players. Maybe this is the year they go after a blue-chip back?
clerk The Broncs need to take a step back and play ball control. eat some time off the clock and keep the defense off the field for a little while
SuperSeason coulda had felix jones
SuperSeason but then no royal
SuperSeason ray rice
Jeff_Legwold They were trying to play that way yesterday, especially early. Most two back formations they've used all year and most play action. Then Pittman went out and they had to throw it around.
SuperNico Lawrence Maroney has had nothing but injuries, and if we would have drafed Stewart we wouldn't have had been able to draft Clady.
SuperSeason exactly
SuperNico I'll take an potential all-pro left tackle over a RB any day
dlprobert wtf are you talking about Jeff? That lasted all of about 5 minutes
SuperSeason LOL
mr58 Jeff...do you think the team will get better? Or do you forsee a continuing slide?
Jeff_Legwold They were down to Stewart or Clady with the pick, took Clady and that's worked out pretty well. Harder to find a left tackle than a running back.
SuperSeason im happy witht the draft
clerk I know exactly what the Broncos need
danoreilly Clady has been a superb pick. Fact is, the guy still hasn't allowed a sack yet, and he manhandled Porter all day yesterday.
SuperNico Yep, especially for Denver, we've found good RB's late
mr58 Clerk - an 8 game season?
dlprobert Clady has played awesome....let's address the idiot we call a "mastermind"....he's the friggen problem
Jeff_Legwold I chart the games, they were in two back more than any other game and pittman was hurt on his third carry. you asked what the plan was, i told you. they lost, that means the plan didn't work, but it doesn't change what the plan was.
SuperSeason hmmmm
clerk Luck, and lots of it!!!
SuperSeason we are introuble if we need luck against the Fins
SuperSeason or the browns
danoreilly guess what? The browns & 'fins are all paid to play football, too...
mr58 I think Shanny might pop a vein...we could have a new coach by December
dlprobert I think we Shanny should get some film from some of the local High School football defenses and show ours how to play
TheHammer Shanahan's history of low and no round RB picks is not working. Reason: the backs are soft. Pittman is the lone hard charger and he's on the wrong side of 30. As for Torain, he's still unproven. Guys like Mike Anderson and Ruben Droughns succeeded because they ran hard, north-south and downhill.
danoreilly geez, dlprobert, we get it: you hate shanahan.!!! Next topic...?
dlprobert lol
dlprobert I'm sorry, but it starts AND finishes with the coach
danoreilly ...and the players play no part in that, right?
dlprobert and shanny is way below par
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Jeff_Legwold They see Torain with that potential, but he had a tough injury and missed a lot of time. may take him some time to show what he can do and if he can be the lead guy.
clerk Aside from Shanny we have had no stability in our coaching staff and it shows
mr58 You give me Elway and TD and I'd look like a genius too
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SuperSeason LOL
SuperNico People must remember we have a young team, only recently have we decided to build through the draft exclusively, only filling in the gaps with free agents. Give the team and Shanny some time, we have a very young team. Most of our stars right now have only been in the league for a few years, they
SuperSeason im happy with the draft
SuperSeason s
dlprobert the players must execcute, but if the gameplan is unexecutable, which this week's was...then allas, everyone has figured Shanny out and it's time for new blood in there
danoreilly SuperNico -EXACTLY! They're young, and the fact is, the injures have KILLED this team this year. How many offensive players out multiple games now? How many defensive players?
TheHammer If Shanahan were to go, who is the right coach for this team?
SuperSeason hahaha
danoreilly dlp - ok, how was it "unexecutable"? And why aren't you the coach, since you know so much about the game and how it SHOULD be played and coached?
SuperSeason he's gonna be here a while
dlprobert We have given him the last 3 years
SuperNico Royal, Stokley, Scheffler, Nalen, Young, etc. have all been hurt on offense. Hard to be productive without those guys in practice everyday and in the lineup on weekends.
dlprobert Well Dan, I'd have you run the ball...bet you could get more than 14 yds
danoreilly dp - ok, then RUN THE BALL. Get pads on, and DO IT.
DenverRealtor Always excuses... injuries, inexperience, defensive coordinator issues. When is someone going to stand up and say, "Mike, give up the GM hat?"
dlprobert Royal and Stokely played...we are talking about yesterays debacle
mr58 Jeff - what happened to the roll-out? It seemed like we were unstoppable the first 3 weeks with Cutler rolling out...barely saw it yesterday
danoreilly OK, scheffler, young, bailey, bailey, williams, mcree, pittman...
dlprobert you are so right Realtor
DenverRealtor This team is about lack of talent- especially on the defense.
kurtz Jeff, why were the Broncos conceding the 5 - 10 yard pass plays all day? Why play so far off a WR as they were doing?
SuperNico Take Bill Cower for instance, after the Super Bowl in '95, what did they do? But they stuck with him and made it to the Super Bowl.
DenverRealtor This is the worst defense in my 25+ years of watching them play.
dlprobert Like Landry with Dallas, it's time ta go, the opponents have figured the "mastermind" out
sb32 Love Royal made some great catches and is a game breaker.
TheHammer Scheffler is fragile as glass. Graham is pushing 30 and Nate Jackson is an overachiever. Are they really as solid at TE as they think?
danoreilly Lack of talent on the D-line and safety's. LB's are OK, as are the CB's.
SuperSeason CBs?
SuperSeason come on
SuperNico We need to stick with Shanahan, he'll get us back.
Jeff_Legwold The roll out only works with play action and when pittman couldn't go, hall hurting and torain not ready to play out of passing formations because of blitz pick-up duties, they lost the personnel they needed to do it, you'll see it more though.
dlprobert opponents have scored 60 points off of turnovers in the last 4 games....the Broncos, under these coaches - )
DenverRealtor Are you serious Dan?
sb32 Im sorry Jeff, did you say you think Torian will start thursday?
dlprobert 0
SuperSeason I think he will start
mr58 He should start
DenverRealtor They have a shot at setting all sorts of dubious records on the defensive side of the ball.
SuperSeason we need CB help as well
SuperNico We shouldn't have trade Foxworth
mr58 Dre Bly should go bly bly
SuperSeason bly and paymah?
DenverRealtor LOL
danoreilly yes I am. Get more consistent pressure with the DL and have safties that can hit, support the run and defnd the pass, this defense would be a WHOLE lot better.
TheHammer Does anyone know...has Scheffler sat out more games than he's played for the Broncos?
SuperSeason jack williams?
dlprobert according to all the news...he will start
Jeff_Legwold I do think he will, but pass protection is always the last thing that clicks for a rookie running back so he may not play on third downs or other passing situations.
SuperSeason bell?
DenverRealtor Dan is drinking the orange kool ade
mr58 Foxworth got burnt more than marshmellos at a campfire
SuperNico We needed him in the Lockeroom and off the field as much as we needed him on the field, Foxworth was a class act.
sb32 thanks Jeff. Ok I only have a cutler away jersey in the dawg pound, not going to wear the Elway ;)
clerk Is there something about our training staff that is failing to prevent the injuries?
SuperSeason LOL
DenverRealtor Jeff- what is your honest prognostication on their record season-end at this point? I can't see them going .500 at this point.
SuperSeason maybe we shouldn't have gone after people that had history of injuries
dlprobert every year it's the same BS excuse...other teams have injuries too
SuperSeason at least we stil in 1st
Jeff_Legwold Can't prevent most injuries. Some yes, but most just happen. Tough game with bigger, faster guys all the time.
SuperSeason LOL
mr58 Like Boss
SuperSeason Like champ
clerk Then it comes down to luck
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SuperSeason like young
Jeff_Legwold Going to be tough, they'll have a hard time winning on the road at this point with the teams left on the road schedule. the offense is going to have to score because the defense is battered and those guys aren't coming back quickly.
dlprobert at this point in time, I don't see us finishing anywhere near 500
SuperSeason injuries are part of the game
clerk Team with the least injuries wins in the end
SuperNico That's why depth is so important.
SuperSeason exactly
SuperSeason look at the pats
TheHammer Injuries can take down a strong team. Look at the Cowboys. Course Wade at the helm does not help. Good Def. Coord. not head coach.
SuperSeason bye brady
SuperNico But with the salary of today's players, it's hard to have good depth
dlprobert with SD starting to play well and the gift we received earlier...SD will win division
SuperSeason and boss with micrfracture surgery
mr58 SD is playing well?
SuperSeason interesting to see if he's even gonna come back next yr
SuperSeason we have 1 1/2 game on them right now
dlprobert hammer....the cowboys put all their stock in Romo, like Cutler here....
SuperNico Maybe if we give Lane Kiffin a job, he can convince his dad to move west. LOL
DenverRealtor Jeff- I agree. I think they are in for a RUDE awakening. This team is so fragile emotionally too. It could get VERY ugly!!!
dlprobert even in losing to NO, SD played well....good enough ta beat the Broncs
SuperSeason seems like all the FA has not worked out well for us
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SuperSeason calvin lowery?
mr58 This team will finish 7 - 9 and could possibly win the AFC worst
DenverRealtor Ah, no.
teepack The AFC West is the worst division in football. 7 wins might make the playoffs
SuperSeason maybe champ can teach him to tackle
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SuperSeason LOL
Jeff_Legwold that's why some GMs detest free agency. spend a lot of money and if one or two guys get hurt, that year's class take a hit.
TheHammer dlprobert... Agree. but the Cowboys have Marion Barber. We have?
mr58 7 - 9 and play Tennessee in Tennesse
teepack ryan torain!!
SuperNico Jeff, has Josh Barrett been struggling on the practice squad, he seems like a logical call up, since he is big and fast.
dlprobert no way mr....the way we are playing we are going to lose to...OMG I'm going to say it - The Faiders
SuperSeason and don't forget felix jones
teepack no, 7-9 and lose in the first round. tennessee will have a bye
mr58 Ah...my bad
SuperSeason heimerdinger wwas here
SuperSeason and our O never looked that good
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teepack what's happened with cutler? he looks like he is struggling.
DenverRealtor At least we have the Nuggets' rumors today (anyone see ESPN.com?) to look forward to this winter. It is going to be LONG.
Jeff_Legwold missed some time with injuries in college, so still a little raw. they like him as a prospect, but not quite ready right now to make decisions in coverage or at the line of scrimmage. depending on how long mccree is out they may have to give him a little longer look.
SuperSeason what's the rumor?
dlprobert Billups to play here
SuperSeason we trading mellow?
mr58 Iverson for Billups
DenverRealtor Billups and McDyess for Iverson
SuperNico Thanks.
SuperSeason oh nice
SuperSeason LOL
dlprobert trading Iverson for Billups and one other
mr58 How about putting Iverson in as RB?
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SuperSeason LOL
mr58 Dude can scoot
dlprobert Artest
Jeff_Legwold iverson was a great high school qb if memory serves...
SuperNico We are supposed to be talking BRONCO'S right?
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clerk Finally a true point guard
SuperSeason maybe marshall can play PG
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mr58 I think your right Jeff
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mr58 And Iverson WANTS THE BALL!!!!
SuperSeason how about mello's new do
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dlprobert I'm sorry, but after watching some of the players and their actions yesterday, it seemed like they were resigned to losing....heads hung low, shoulders slumped...body language says alot
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SuperSeason how about we come out next game in 2 min offense
SuperSeason 5 wr
TheHammer Andre Hall, Selvin Young and Pittman won't even be on the roster next year!
mr58 no huddle!!!!
mr58 every down
Jeff_Legwold their challenge as a young team is to rebound emotionally, especially this week when they only have one full day of practice before going to cleveland.
mr58 run and shoot
clerk Anything to shake it up a little
SuperSeason marshall royal, jackson stokely ....
dlprobert agreed Jeff
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TheHammer Shanahan will trade for Lawrence Maroney. He loves him. Thinks he's the next Steven Jackson.
Jeff_Legwold the more you open up the formation, the more hits the quarterback takes and the broncos have a backup who has never thrown a pass in a regular season game.
dlprobert .....and shanny needs to come up with a simple gameplan
SuperNico Hopefully, once we get Scheffler back, it will open the middle of the field, and help the running game, which would then allow us to us play action.
SuperSeason we are not using grahmn
TheHammer SuperNico, Sheffler will be back for one game and then get injured again.
dlprobert Until we get a running game, just like when Elway started, we will keep losing
SuperSeason not what they were saying when we signed him
Jeff_Legwold graham spent a lot of tine blocking joey porter sunday
SuperSeason I hate that guy
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SuperNico That's what I'm afraid of TheHammer.
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sb32 sorry if repeat but was the scheffler INA precautionary and do you think he will play vs Browns?
SuperSeason if i was cutler i woulda punched in the mouth
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TheHammer Graham is a blocker and good short field receiver. Need Scheffer to stay healthy!
SuperSeason desmond clark
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SuperSeason ooops hes with the bears
sb32 well cutler seemed a little steamed when he threw that 3rd pick, seemed to force it in
SuperSeason Nate jackson
dlprobert Why super? Porter leads the league in sacks...he's an awesome player
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SuperSeason just ddin't like him that's all
SuperNico I was thinking more along the lines of Clarence Kay, SuperSeason.
SuperSeason hahaha
sb32 riley odoms cmon
SuperSeason nice
dlprobert lol@nico
Jeff_Legwold Scheffler is closer to playing, but if a guy comes back too soon from that injury, he re-injure it fast and that would probably be it for the year for Scheffler.
SuperNico We'd probably have to bail Kay out of jail though
sb32 thx
SuperSeason LOL
kjhunter We should try and get KGB
SuperSeason maybe we should use jackson in sheffler's role
sb32 jeff did you think the OPI on B Marsh was ticky tacky?
SuperSeason we had a lot of calls that didn't go our way
SuperSeason but so what
dlprobert there were a few ticky tack calls early in the game...I think refs are making up for SD bad call
SuperSeason LOL
sb32 dlprob we seem to say that everygame (Jax PIs) how long do we have to pay for that?
Jeff_Legwold Even Tony Sparano said he couldn't be "emphatic'' about it and it saved his team a touchdown. have seen plenty worse not get flagged, but it's pro football you have to rebound when things happen to you. not easy, but a requirement.
clerk If thats true it's unfortunate
TheHammer Marshall and Royal will need a partner next year. Stokes is injured almost as much as Scheffler these days. DO Broncos go with a slot or possession guy. Royal to the slot or wide?
kjhunter I agree dlprobert, ever since that game we've gotten screwed by the refs. I don't blame them for our losses, but c'mon
sb32 Jeff totally understand but that was a ginormous call 77 YD TD!!! but I agree if Bly turns around maybe its 22-17 sted TD and we still have a chance thx for you insight always
SuperSeason im ure there's a wr out there we can sign
Jeff_Legwold they'd like royal out wide because he's so good at making room for himself in the route. his breaks are really sharp. he could play the slot -- he was the strongest receiver at the combine -- but he really plays well outside right now.
ebabs Passing isn't the problem. 14 yards of rushing is the problem!
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SuperSeason well
SuperSeason Hillis at RB
SuperSeason larsen at FB
kjhunter We don't need to go out to free agency and keep getting players. We need to start developing from the draft.
TheHammer ebabs... we covered the RBs 20 minutes ago.
ebabs Just got here, give me a break
SuperNico It would be interesting at least, SuperSeason
SuperSeason LOL
dlprobert SUPER...we don't need another WR, we need a DEFENSE and running game
SuperSeason ehhhh
TheHammer just bustin' some chops ::blush
SuperSeason too late for this season
SuperSeason just go load up on O
SuperSeason hahha
SuperSeason jk
ebabs Hammer-- The Broncs could use someone who could bust some chops!!!!
SuperNico Maybe when the 49er's fire Singletary we can hire him to coach defense
TheHammer Speaking of busting chops... a bad record could bring LB Laurenitis or Maualuga (sp?). Broncos MISS Al Wilson's leadership and fire.
dlprobert seems to me, with the way the season started, the Broncos started to beleive their own hype. Just like us fans
SuperSeason i don't understand it when they Dlinemen got a sack or did something good they started to celebrate like they just won something but in reality they have been getting killed all game
SuperNico we'll have to write in his contract that he must keep his pants on at all times though
TheHammer Both Laurenitis and Maualuga could be had in the top 15.
SuperSeason instead of just be and go back and do better
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SuperSeason LOL
ebabs Let Singletary drop his pants. At least we'd see some passion
SuperSeason at this rate will well haave one of the top 15 piks
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SuperSeason maybe we can go 4 and 12 and get a great pick
TheHammer I just hope the Broncos don't draft another DL. Their track record there sucks. When it comes to LBs... it's much better.
dlprobert agreed super....the celebration of a tackle when your losing, I mean getting dominated, seems to be the "in" thing in the league now...
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SuperSeason but then shanny wouldn't lose the last game of last yr to move up
SuperSeason dl that made no sense
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November 3, 2008
3:16 PM
zach writes:
Give me some Bill Cowher any day! I'm a long time Bronco fan and Shanny fan, but this is getting ridiculous now. Its embarrassing how predictable they are, from both an offensive and defensive look. I like that he is still agressive, but his creativity seems to missing. Everyone needs to remember, this is a young team!! They are in prime positions for molding into a solid group, but the consistency isn't there and they really just look like chickens with their heads cut off. Sure they're 'alive' but running around in circles...comon!
Time for change... in Oval office and Denver.