January 6, 2009 11:34 PM
Broncos Inbox -- Jan. 7
Welcome, the Broncos Inbox is open and it was the first unanimous week in the Inbox's history. Every question submitted -- and there were almost triple digits worth - was about the Broncos coaching search.
So, I took the first few on the topics folks wanted covered. Off we go . . .
Jemal Duran in Pueblo,
Q: Can (you) shed light on how the Broncos interviews have gone, and what the general mood is of Pat Bowlen and his team going forward? Specifically, can you speak to one report I heard that the Broncos brass were underwhelmed by Saturday's meeting with Giant's coordinator Steve Spagnuolo?
A: For many of the Broncos in the front office, specifically owner Pat Bowlen and chief operating officer Joe Ellis, this is not a regular occurrence. Bowlen hasn't hired a head coach since 1995 and Ellis has not participated in a coaching search with the team.
So a lot of the search, at least initially, was simply getting organized and focusing on the candidates they wanted to bring in on the first wave of interviews.
That said, the interviews, by all accounts, have gone well as far as getting the information they wanted from candidates and asking the questions they want to ask. However, interviews are often like draft picks -- everybody's great on draft day - and interviews are usually said to be good unless a guy simply crumbles during the thing.
I think the Broncos would classify them all as productive. As far as Spagnuolo's interview it was his second one of the day - he had interviewed with the Jets as well - after a week of getting prepared for a playoff game.
So he may not have done cartwheels over dinner, but circumstances determine how somebody does in an interview. He may have been understated at times, but "under-whelming'' is not something that's been conveyed to me in that case.
Look at the guy's gameplan in the Super Bowl last February and he could use three-word sentences and not be under-whelming. It's a football decision and there is no cookie-cutter approach to making it.
It's like reports I've seen of one or two guys "leading the way'' before the Broncos have even interviewed everyone they want to. One report went as far as to say Spagnuolo was leading the pack when he had been the only guy who had actually interviewed with the team to that point.
So essentially he was at the front of a "line'' that had one person in it at the time.
That's the way coaching searches go. There is no question, however, that Bowlen is likely somewhat taken aback, after a few days to look at it, at the scope of firing Mike Shanahan, meeting with the Broncos assistant coaches who all want to know their fate as well and then locating and interviewing candidates to fill the job.
Some teams do it so often they get calloused to the process. But the Broncos are not one of those teams.
It's a weighty decision and I don't think they'll jump to fill the job until they're comfortable with one of the candidates. They may even bring one or two back for second interviews - this is still possible - to find that comfort level.
But all of the guys interviewed to this point - five in all through Tuesday - have been quizzed about their plans for the coaching staff, what kinds of things they would do on offense and defense as well as presenting how they would structure practice or even go about being the most visible face of the franchise.
Harpo . . .
Q: Any way you could relay the message to Pat Bowlen about, at least, interviewing Rex Ryan? He should be the Broncos next coach and leave Jeremy Bates as the offensive coordinator. What do you think?
A: Ryan was on an initial list of candidates, but did not make the cut to the seven who will be interviewed in the window between Saturday and Thursday.
The seven:
Saturday: Steve Spagnuolo, Giants defensive coordinator, in New York.
Sunday: Josh McDaniels, Patriots offensive coordinator, in Providence, R.I.
Monday: Raheem Morris, Buccaneers defensive coordinator, in Denver.
Tuesday: Jason Garrett, Cowboys offensive coordinator; Rick Dennison, Broncos offensive coordinator, both in Denver.
Wednesday: Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier, in Denver.
Thursday: Dolphins assistant head coach/secondary Todd Bowles, in Denver.
Both Shanahan and quarterback Jay Cutler have lobbied to keep Bates on the staff. Financially he has three years left on his contract - it runs through 2011.
But he, like the rest of the assistants, have been told they can look around and talk to other teams if they wish. And that they will all be interviewed and/or evaluated again when a new head coach is hired.
He, and some others, could be retained - like Ryan was retained in Baltimore when John Harbaugh was hired before this past season - but many will not be back. Usually a guy who is going to interview for a head coaching job has already made the rounds to see who he might be able to get on his staff.
It's just the way it works. So if the candidates are prepared and savvy enough to get the job they usually already have a good idea of some of the key members of their coaching staff would be.
Master Sgt. Robert Ferrau led a double dip on a general manager . . .
Q: Do you think Pat Bowlen is going about it backwards, what with hiring a coach first and then a general manager? Also, why isn't Scott Pioli's name coming up with regards to the vacant general manager's job? Personally I am hoping for Pioli/McDaniels but we'll see.
And Steve Justus in Westminster . . .
Q: Any ideas on whether or not football operations will be restructured to have a real general manager and take player selection away from the head coach? Player selection on defense seems to have been the most glaring weakness for the Broncos in the past few years to me, I'm curious if the organization agrees.
A: Overall that has already been re-structured the minute Shanahan was fired. Bowlen said the new head coach would no longer have the ultimate authority over personnel.
A Pioli-McDaniels grouping is not likely right now. McDaniels is a popular target among teams because he's a rare assistant coach who is young enough to still be considered an up-and-comer by those hiring coaches around the league and has also worked on both sides of the ball extensively.
McDaniels was a front-line position coach on defense for the Patriots and has worked on offense the past few seasons as well, including being the guy calling the plays.
He will definitely get heavy consideration by the Broncos. Pioli has a long list, according to teams that have talked to him in the past, of things he would like, including being one the best-paid general managers in the league.
It's a list, or a better phrase may be set of parameters to get him, big enough that it has made some teams hesitate in hiring him and likely is at least part of the reason why he hasn't taken a job away from the Patriots despite drawing so much interest in recent seasons.
The Broncos are also on the hook of about $7 million a year for three years to Shanahan if he doesn't take another job or they'll be on the hook for part of it if any new job doesn't pay him that much.
So with the prospect of paying a new head coach as well as paying any assistant coaches who are let go that have years remaining on their deals - and they are all signed at least through '09, some longer - and hiring some new assistants as well, that is a big financial commitment already.
So the Broncos' focus is on getting that in order on the coaching side. The personnel side will keep going the way they're going. With the college all-star games coming up, including the Senior Bowl later this month, as well as the combine in February, any big shift in personnel right now would really hinder what a team could do to get ready for the draft.
So at some point Bowlen may decide he needs a general manager to look over things, but he's got enough going right now, and with two of the last three drafts having been productive, to leave that until later if he thinks it becomes necessary.
And the team does have plenty of staffing there with a vice president of player personnel as well as two assistant general managers already in place.
Speaking of Shanahan's contract, Bill Meyers in Arlington, Conn., asked . . .
Q: Had a question for you regarding the $21 million dollars remaining on Mike Shanahan's contract that I hear bandied about as a potential stumbling block to hiring a high-priced new coach.
Is the situation similar to a baseball player cut in the middle of a guaranteed contract where a new team signing the player pays only the league minimum and the original team remains on the hook for the entire remaining balance?
Or, when Shanahan inevitably signs with a new team, would he be paid a market-based salary by the new team and in essence relieve Pat Bowlen from that daunting $21 million figure? It seems unfair that a new team could sign Shanahan and pay him only a nominal salary while sticking the Broncos with the rest of the bill.
A: Basically Bowlen owes Shanahan the money - about $21 million - because Shanahan had three years remaining on his deal when he was fired. The deal also has a clause in it that guarantees he would be paid among the top three salaries in the league for head coaches through the life of the contract.
So, that's where the figure comes from.
Several agents and people who worked with Shanahan put the figure at $7 million a year. Mike Holmgren was the league's highest paid coach this past season at about $8 million per year on his deal.
But if Shanahan gets hired for less the Broncos do pay the difference, unless Shanahan re-worked the deal to let the team out - unlikely after you've been fired by the team.
If the he doesn't work for one or two or all three seasons, the Broncos are responsible for all of it.
Jeff Spear in California took a hard look at things . . .
Q: Look at the track record. If the Broncos can't sign free agents that are any good, how can they possibly find a coach out there who's any good? Bowlen strikes out every time he goes fishing. I'm not optimistic about this search. Hello, 4-12, but that's a good
thing, I think. Enough with the 8-8 seasons. This team needs to bottom out, get totally exposed and stripped for parts, then it can reorganize (like New England before Tom Brady). The Broncos need to lose the notion that they're just a draft away from winning the Super Bowl. A top- down restructuring is the only option . . . and please explain to me how John Elway is qualified to be a general manager. Arena Football? Are you serious? That's a joke, right? In that case, forget 4-12. Hello, 1-15.
A: Most teams don't want the bottom out because of the financial trouble it brings.
It does bring a big-time draft pick and sometimes, when done right, those can change a franchise (i.e. Colts take Peyton Manning instead of Ryan Leaf with the No. 1 pick and the rest is well-documented history).
But Bowlen is not the type to let a season go like that. Since the start of the 1973 season the Broncos have had the same number of losing seasons as Super Bowl trips - six - and they're the only team that can make that claim.
It shows their philosophy is not the tear it all down to build it up again.
That has worked other places, but often the 1-15 or 2-14 was the result of ineptness rather than design.
Tom Brady was not the center of a rebuilding effort. If Mo Lewis doesn't blast into Drew Bledsoe, the world may not discover Brady for some time.
He was a sixth-round pick the Patriots, after seeing him practice and play, had behind Bledsoe on the depth chart. They didn't think he was a starter at that time and only named him a starter at the Super Bowl to close out the 2001 season - it was the story of the week leading up to the game that year.
I've always felt if they really knew he was going to be a three-time Super Bowl winner they wouldn't have taken him in the sixth round. And if they believed he was the center of their re-birth, they would have just played him from the start that year instead of waiting until Blesdoe couldn't play.
Brady, like Kurt Warner, turned one chance into a possible Hall of Fame career, but neither the Patriots nor Rams could honestly say they saw that coming.
As far as Elway. He is such a dominant personality in the sports fabric of the city there will always be a segment of people who want him to be involved with the Broncos in some way. However, it would be difficult for him to go full-time into football unless he quit doing a lot of the business things he is doing at the moment.
And finally . . . A.P. Crisafi leads a double dip on how it all happened . . .
Q: I was one of the people that thought the Broncos needed a change, but I think the best change would have been a more aggressive defensive scheme, bringing in personnel evaluation help, as well as taking that general manager function away from Shanahan. Do you know if he and Pat Bowlen tried to work something like that out?
And Dennis Smythe . . .
Q: I think Mike Shanahan was, and always will be, a class act and a top-notch coach. It was sad to see his final press conference with the Broncos, but he truly carried himself with dignity in an awkward situation. Do you think his firing was merited? I think it's very questionable to fire a coach with his track record, particularly coming off an 8-8 season with the team arguably showing decent improvement over the prior season.
A: When Bowlen made the decision he was going to fire Shanahan, there was no bargaining after that, no compromises offered.
The meeting lasted about five minutes and that was that.
In the end, at least from my perspective having been around both of them, it seemed to be far more a day-to-day communication issue than anything else. They just didn't interact like they once did.
And that's important to Bowlen, probably more important than it was to Shanahan at the end. Bowlen had fired Ted Sundquist as general manager when a similar thing happened between Shanahan and Sundquist.
I asked Shanahan in his final press conference what had changed, if anything, with Bowlen and he said nothing had changed in his mind. And maybe he didn't want to say publicly or he didn't really believe anything had changed that much.
But I think Bowlen, and others in the front office, thought it changed and changed a lot. And Bowlen owns the team so that's the vote that counts.
An no matter what coach believes he has "ultimate authority,'' he doesn't. He still works for the owner and if the boss thinks there's a problem big enough to fire you then you're getting fired.
Was it merited? I think they both benefited tremendously from the other in 14 seasons, so hard to say either way.
Bowlen obviously thinks it was. And I think the fact Shanahan took the high road last Wednesday shows while he may not agree with the decision - and he's too competitive and prideful to even agree with it - he at least understands Bowlen's reasoning for it.
And unless they had won the Super Bowl in '09, I'm not sure it wouldn't have happened next season anyway.
As Bowlen said "I guess nothing's forever.''
That's it, and thanks. I'll keep doing the Inbox over the next couple months as long as the paper is publishing and the website is up, so please keep the questions coming.
--Jeff Legwold





January 7, 2009
7:48 AM
tomk writes:
Hi Jeff, wold you mind sharing yor input ref. the Broncos continuing injury problems. 7 cripped RB's et al. Do we need to open a Mile high clinic complete with surgeons, consultants, nurses, psychiatrists etc.It might be cheaper in the long term.
January 7, 2009
3:00 PM
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January 7, 2009
5:41 PM
Shaun writes:
Jeff, Has there been any mention of Brian Billick coming in for the Broncs? Seems this guy has just dropped off the radar, but he was a great offensive coordinator in Minnesota if I recall, and then coached the ferocious Baltimore D that won a Super Bowl. I'd love to hear his name pop up.
January 9, 2009
11:00 AM
Dan from Vegas writes:
Jeff, I really hope RMN stays because you are the most informative sports columnist.
You have to trust Pat Bowlen on this next hire because what other owner would have the 'whatever' to make the firing of Mike Shanahan.
My question is on the player evalutions, for the draft and free agency. In the past five years the Broncos have done an above average to great job when it relates to offensive talent. You agree?
But in the same amount of time the defensive talent is way below average. You agree?
So if the scounting/personnel group is retainded where does that leave us for 'change'?
These guys will be making the decisions (minus Mike now) but where is the change?
Jim Goodman - VP Football Ops / Player Personnel
Jeff Goodman - Assistant General Manager
Brian Xanders - Assistant General Manager
Mike Bluem- Director of Football Administration
January 9, 2009
8:32 PM
Dynamicdave writes:
Hey, Jeff. Hope I didn't offend you on the other post, today. Nothing personal, just disappointed that the Broncos are out and there is nothing really to read up on while we have to play the waiting game with the new coach decision. But, I asked this on your other article regarding Romanowski. Was he serious? It almost seemed he was being being jokingly sarcastic. I mean, other then playing D, what qualifications does he actually think he can bring to the table? I just can't lead myself to think he could actually be serious? He might be useful as an assistant to the LB corps, but nothing else. Your take?
January 9, 2009
10:00 PM
jerry writes:
Hey,Jeff. Any thought on Pat Bowlen re-hiring Mike Shanahan, now that some time has expired,now that he has conducted his search for a new coach and has't found one better. Buyer's remorse. Pat Bowlen is still on the hook for the next three years.How does Pat Bowlen feel about his decision today,does he still feel like it's time?
January 10, 2009
12:46 AM
Dynamicdave writes:
Jerry, Bowlen is not going to bring Shanahan back. He's history. If Shanny goers back to coaching this year, to another team, then the 20 million is wiped clean. Bowlen has choices. I think Spags, Frazier, Morris, McDaniels are some good picks to choose from.
January 11, 2009
11:37 AM
tomk writes:
Hi Jeff over the last 20+ years watching your style of football (John Riggins and Bonnie Tyler rasping 'I need a hero'). I enjoy your Q&A and wold like an answer to 2 queries. What is nickel-dime (we use pennies) and what is the difference between 3-4 and 4-3 defense?? I guess 3-4 is a more attack minded defense with the blitz in mind bt fewer players in the backfield. Anyway, more power to your quill and parchment.
January 12, 2009
3:16 PM
Chris writes:
so now that we've got our coach, where do you see the broncos going in the draft and free agency possibly? and who do you think will stay or go on defense if the switch is made to the 3-4?
January 15, 2009
2:13 PM
Dennis writes:
Dynamicdave, hate to correct you, but wanted to make sure accurate info is out there... You state that if Shanny gets another coaching job the $20 million salary is "wiped clean." Unfortunately that is not the case. If he takes another coaching job, his new salary will offset what the Broncos owe him, but will not eliminate it unless it is a larger salary - which is VERY doubtful. In other words, if he gets a contract for, lets say, $6 million, the Broncos would still owe him approximately $14 million.
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