Why tire of a just war?
When President Bush and the Senate declared war on Iraq in March 2003, the president said that it would be a long and hard war. Now, four years later, the Democrats and most of the American people are tired of fighting a just war.
To most Arabs, four years is hardly a moment in history, but to the Democrats and the American people it seems like a lifetime.
What is it about a long and hard war that the Democrats and the American people don’t understand? Once the Senate voted to approve the war they should have done it with the intention of staying in Iraq until everything was finished.
Dennis Reuss, Denver
Dennis what the senate approved was to rid Iraq of WMD's (that wasn't found) and Saddam. I don't beleive the intent was to nation build that Bush said himself he would not do. So Dennis I ask you how many years and billions of dollars that we don't have is enough? This war will never be won.
Posted by larry on September 18, 2007 04:54 AMDennis, a couple of points. First, you may have forgotten that on May 2, 2003, George Bush stood on the deck aboard the SS Abraham Lincoln and in front of the "Mission Accomplished" banner that glared overhead and declared "Major combat operations in Iraq have ended". Hmmm. How wrong he was. We could go over all of the other speeches he has made on the war and find that time and again we are told progress is being made when in reality the facts show us just how nebulous progress actually is. But this is the way of war, and from time immemorial the ciizenry are duped into thinking that violence will bring solutions to conflict. Read Lawrence LeShan's "The Psychology of War" for more on that subject. You will find it very interesting. Leaders know this psychology and use it successfully century after century to bring people like you along on the false premise that war will bring solutions to conflict. But in the end, many finally wake up to its futility which is what is going on right now with Iraq. Read the account of Salazar's impressions on the war after he just returned from a visit there.
How you define a "just war" was not included in your letter. I wonder how the thousands of refugees who have fled Iraq, causing more destabilitzation in the region, would react to this war being called "just" by someone such as yourself. Who is going to feed, house and cloth these refugees? Are you and the other citizens of this nation who support this war willing to open our borders to these refugees?
But that leads me to a point I really wanted to make. Sacrifice. Please, tell me what sacrifices you personally are making for this war? Please tell me, other than those in our military who are actually fighting the war, who in this nation is sacrificing for this cause? Please, tell me, who is really going to pay for this war? If people such as yourself wish to support this war, then should there not be a plan for sacrifice? What is your sacrifice? Think back on World War II, that generation was willing to sacrifice much. Shall we institute a draft? Shall we pay for the war now? Let's face it, the majority of people in the United States have not been effected by this war one iota. This is Bush's war. Even Greenspan knows the real reason for it. And the majority of Americans are finally getting it. There is no military solution in Iraq. Where is Condoleeza Rice? Where are the diplomats? What happened to the recommendations of the Iraq Study Group? Watch how there will be future justifications to continue this war just like Vietnam, see how the U.S. will continue to fund the largest embassy overseas that we are building in Baghdad. See how the bases in Iraq will be there indefinitely. This is not about Republicans and Democrats. This is about the effect this war is having on our nation's future and it looks bleak indeed. Think about who is profiting from this war Dennis. Thousands are making money off of it. Let us hope that this nation will come to its senses and come up with viable solutions, not more of the same "stay the course" policy. We are enabling the Iraqis by our presence. It is time they decide the future of their own country and time to bring home the occupiers.
Posted by JJ on September 18, 2007 05:56 AMjj just so you can get off the mission accomplished theme of the hate america crowd, it was in reference to the ships mission.
BTW when are the dums going to bring home our troops from europe from WWII? lets here why that is different from this one. how about we end this one tomorrow the way Harry ended the war with japan?
did you ask you leaders pelosi and boxer how much their hubbies are making off the war? nope didnt think you did.
btw your buddies at the UN did find the wmd's from Iraqi and they were in a UN building in NY. they were unsure how they got there but were going to get them out soon.
so jj please tell us of what scarifice you have made to enjoy all of your freedoms here, or are you one of the assuming many who think you just get them and ignore how they were established for you?
Posted by on September 18, 2007 06:19 AMDennis this "just" war is all about stealing oil and exterminating Arabs (Hitler style). We've seen this movie before. To get our way, FDR unleashed chemical weapons on the Japanese. LBJ (I served in 3 deployments to Vietnam) unleashed chemical weapons on Vietnamese. Like Saddam, "W" too unleashed chemical weapons on unsuspecting Iraqis in their residential neighborhoods, eradicating "insurgents". I advise my home-boys in Darfur and Sudan to DUCK.
This "just" war is based on lies by white draft dodgers and evangelical goons (Dobson, Perkins, Allard-communist-sider, Marilyn Manson, Tancredo, Bob Schaffer, Graham, Haggard, Huckabee, Bush, Lott, Cheney, Frist, Rudy, Mitt, Owens, Falwell, etc.).
The last 5 years of the NAM war were spent deciding our NAM exit strategy. 25K of the 58K saints that were killed in Vietnam, actually died during this exit decision process. Shamnesty Salazar, Mitt, Allard, Owens, and Bush, were thriving from their exit strategy, which included them not serving in NAM.
Black Muslims, Catholics, Methodist, and Mormons. Elijah Muhammad and his son, Wallace D. Muhammad, sought religious draft deferments. They were rewarded for efforts (draft-evasion) by each of them being sentenced to 3 years in federal prison. Shamnesty got an illegal "priesthood" draft deferment. When NAM boke-out, Mitt broke for his Mormon mission. Mitt's was a combination Mormon and "daddy draft deferment". His pappy was a cabinet member in the Nixon administration.
"W" got a "daddy draft deferment" too. Methodist and racially segregated Guard, which rendered "W" a 40+ year UCMJ-felon (AWOLee-deserter) because he blew off his military service. Another benefactor of the Bush draft dodging sweepstakes, was Billie Mae Owens. They gave him an unheard of and illegal congressional page draft deferment.
While "W" was doing this, Muhammad Ali was being threatened with a 5 year prison sentence, which really stemed from Elijah being Ali's religious advisor. Black men were pimped and exploited by Shamnesty, "W", Owens, Mitt, and the rest of the GOP posse. 55% of the "soldier draftees" killied in Vietnam (in-country) were black, while we only comprised 12% of the nation's entire population. It isn't happen-stance that Owens and Allard are part of Mitt's prez campaign team. Shamnesty, Mitt, "W", and Owens, all owe the blacks who served, when America called them to serve, 3 years in federal prison (SuperMax).
Posted by draftdodgingisntafamilyvalue on September 18, 2007 07:10 AMIt continues to baffle me why the war supporters expect us to support a war that was started with lies. Iraq was no threat to us. This war is an optional war. We created all of these enemies that we are having to deal with now. Bush said "bring 'em on", he got what he asked for. Your bellicosity and perverse logic won't change that.
Posted by on September 18, 2007 07:12 AMShorter version of this letter:
"Why tire of running off a cliff?"
Posted by Charles B on September 18, 2007 07:33 AMDennis,
Just because 78 senators voted for the Authorization to Use Military Force doesn't mean that the war is justified. It means that 78 senators are controlled by the same foreign lobby that Larry Franklin was caught spying for. You remember that, don't you? Larry, the former pentagon analyst, is now serving 12 years after having confessed to spying for Israel. His handlers, Rosen and Weissman, the two AIPAC honchos, are also indicted and awaiting trial. Perhaps their trials will shed some light on how they exert their control over congress and show to the Americans who really controls their country.
Charles B. I have the car and know where there's a great cliff if you will drive it.
Posted by Guess Who on September 18, 2007 08:31 AMJamaal Addison isn't tiring of the war. He was killed in action on March 23, 2003. It wasn't long and it wasn't hard and he felt duty bound and just.
Those that are next to die in a war that has proven to be unjust...and their families...and their fellow Americans...are tiring of the war.
Four years IS a lifetime for those dying.
But then again, it's not so long and hard from your lay-z-boy is it Dennis?
Posted by LongGone on September 18, 2007 08:33 AMDraft dodging...You lie. Check the facts and don't repeat the lie that 55 % of KIA in Nam were Black. Blacks do make up 12% of the population and that same percentage were killed in NAM. You just want more money from Uncle Sugar.
Posted by on September 18, 2007 08:35 AMWhere is the "just war". Certainly not in Iraq. 90 some percent of the world thinks we do not belong there. More than 70% of US citizens consider it to be a mistake. Saying that the war is a "just war" does not make it so.
Posted by It's True on September 18, 2007 08:58 AMDennis Ruess
You keep mentioning the Democrats as being tired of the war, but they don't count in your letter. These appaisers and cowards tire of any confrontation to defend this country.
Yes the American people as I myself are tired of this war that should have ended when Bush landed an that aircract carrier and said "Mission Accoplished" No, it's really a war for the US contractors like Halliburton to make money and the expense of our boys being used for canon fodder and their personal bodygaurds.
We had to get rid of Saddam and his regime and search for those WMD to verify if the were really there since he use some of them on the Kurds, but that was where it should have ended
Posted by Tired of Whining on September 18, 2007 09:05 AMIfit wasn't the dems. giving support to the terrorist this war would of been over.
Posted by Keith on September 18, 2007 09:19 AMIf keith and fellow cowards like 'an american' who support this war would actually go and fight it ( not here boys, but in Iraq) it might be over.
Posted by anti-keith on September 18, 2007 09:35 AMWhat would be the cost of "bringing our boys home" and ending this "unjust war"? That is the question that divides the people of our country.
Unfortunately, there is no compromise. Like the letter writer, I believe the costs we would bear would be catastrophic if we did not finish this "just" war in an acceptable fashion. Those on the other side of the argument believe there would be no adverse consequences and that the American presence in Iraq is the problem.
The risk of further damage and death is what I focus on. I believe the U.S. presence in Iraq can avoid or mitigate this risk. It is what divides conservatives from those who have a much more rosy view of the world and its motivations.
Posted by Nostra Damus on September 18, 2007 09:56 AMA just war?
No such thing ever existed. War is and has been about power, real estate resources, and profit.
Posted by on September 18, 2007 10:13 AMWMD,lies, WMD, lies WMD, lies Moveon one tracks
Posted by on September 18, 2007 11:50 AMI for one Dennis, am not tired of your just (snicker) war. I could give 2 hoots. I am going hiking, have a cold beer & maybe paint a picture. If you like fighting so much, catch the next plane to Tikrit.
Posted by hikingartist on September 18, 2007 11:54 AMMany of us are tired of the pictures of the seriously wounded, men and women who will live their entire lives terribly disabled.
You think people are tired now, just wait 20 or 30 years when the effects are still with us.
Posted by Sharon B. on September 18, 2007 12:04 PMPost 10:13 AM
Nobody likes war except war mongers and lunatics, but contrary to your assertion that there are no just wars is simply wrong.
What would have happened if we had not defeated Hitler and the Nazis.
What would have happened if the Israelis had not deafeated their enemies since the the rightful formation of the Nation of Israel.
As far as that piece of "Real Estate" it always belonged to the Jews and there never was a Palestinian state, just squaters.
Only misguided pacifists and cowards tend believe that latest liberal lie.
Posted by Tired of Whining on September 18, 2007 12:14 PMSharon B.
Your statement of people being tired now , just wait 20 or 30 years when the effects are still with us makes no sense. It's just exagerration and hypocritical.
When in the hell was the last time a liberal like you thought about the men who fought in Vietnam 40 plus years ago and the effects on them.
How does that effect you now? You could careless. How does 58,209 killed, 153,303 wounded and 1,948 MIAs compare with your fake concern about our Troops and the casualties in Iraq now.
Tired, you don`t know me from an ant. For the next 20 to 30 years the VA will be handling some very difficult cases, Jordan has over one million Iraq refugees. You have decades to deal with this mess.
The letter is about war fatigue in the population, not its effect on individuals.
Why you had to make this personal says much about you. Nothing about me.
Posted by Sharon B. on September 18, 2007 01:08 PMOil and srategerie,
this is about securing the strategerie of the second largest oil reserve. Bush and Co. want this so the chinese don't have control. We are never leaving Iraq, they will be killing our men for as long as we are there. If someone came here for regime change and to get rid of our WMD's you would fight. Even those that hate Bush would fight to keep a foreign power from occupation of the US. We have the largest embassy in the world there as well as military bases. They will break this country financially before they ever give up this part of the middle east and the oil reserves there.
Posted by Karl Cheney on September 18, 2007 01:24 PMI made it the truth about you and your phony liberal concern for our troops which in reality they despise you and the rest of the left because they also have you pegged for what you really are and your true motives which I as a combat Veteran do!
I never met a left winger who didn't despise the military and as your Boy Bill Clinton once said "I Loath The Military" That pot smoking, draft dodging, womanizing liar.
Your true concern revolves around your politics and your hatred of George Bush and not our troops. Deny it all you want but we can smell a liberal skunk all the way to Iraq.
Posted by Tired of Whining on September 18, 2007 01:41 PMTired of Whiner,
Yes whiner, we hate the troops sooo much we want them to come home. I know supporting them means keeping them there in danger with extended tours. All the libs are liars because they don't want the troops to be killed, what a bunch of troop haters.
Posted by Karl Cheney on September 18, 2007 01:55 PMTired of whiner,
Tell me about your feelings about Kerry's service? You are a troop supporter what about Kerry and Murtha?
Posted by Karl Cheney on September 18, 2007 01:57 PM"j just so you can get off the mission accomplished theme of the hate america crowd, it was in reference to the ships mission."
hahahahahaha - I've heard all the wingnut rhetoric about the so-called reasons for the war - but this takes the cake. Thanks for that bit of humour, anonymous bonehead!
And as for the idiot above (Tired of Whining) who calls Clinton a "pot smoking, draft dodging, womanizing liar." That probably beats the current inmate - a coke snorting, combat-avoiding airhead. Funny how most of these yellow rats who love this war - Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz and their praise singers - Limbaugh & O'Reilly - ran away from combat, but mostly never even bothered to serve.
At least Clinton isn't a miserable chickenhawk.
Posted by drew on September 18, 2007 02:04 PMSharon B.
As an soldier an leave from 3 tours in Iraq, I have read your idiotic liberal comments for the past 2 weeks and finally had to tell you what I think of you and the diarrea you spew on these topics which either your are blind, ignorant ,stupid or just plain immoral to the real world and what really goes on and not just see it through through the liberal controlled media on the boob tube from the comfort of your home and the safety of your little world the troops of this country have made for you over the years.
We didn't make all these sacrifices so people like you can abuse the freedoms you have or for your misguided leftist agenda to infect this great nation. Haven't you done enough damaged to this country in the past 30+ years.
Posted by Tired of Whining on September 18, 2007 02:17 PMTired of whining
"your are blind, ignorant ,stupid or just plain immoral to the real world.."
Pal, with all the BS you've spewed above you've got the audacity to bring up ignorance & stupidity? What, you're a "combat veteran" so this makes you all-knowing? My advice to you is to put a cork in it rather than broadcasting your ignorance for all to see. And while you're about it look up the history of the middle east - including Israel/Palestine.
And the poll numbers just keep coming. Here's the latest from CBS:
68% of Americans want troop withdrawal (27% want to keep levels the same).
31% say the surge is working. (51% said no difference, 11% said made things worse)
34% say the war is going well.
62% say they do not trust Petraeus to report accurately about the conditions in Iraq.
These "statistics" or "first party data" can be confusing to those of you like KW or Kieth who deal only in simplified versions of administration lies, but hopefully some of you will enjoy knowing that at least the country is finally (FINALLY) starting to wake up.
Grog - Have you been visiting firedoglake again?
You mentioned your poll was from CBS, do you have a link?
Besides, you are getting your troop withdrawal. This is what you've wanted all along. What seems to be bugging you now?
Posted by KW on September 18, 2007 02:55 PMKW,
I don't know why I feel obligated to give you links when you can never back up anything you say ever, but here you go:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/17/opinion/polls/main3268663.shtml
And as far as the troop withdrawal? "Maybe in 8 months if conditions on the ground warrant we can bring troop levels back to their 2006 levels" turned into "Maybe we can get within 20,000 troops of the 2006 levels" turned into "probably about 5,000 troops or so" and it's only been 6 days since the plan was announced. But you're right, I'm completely satisfied.
Dumbass.
Posted by Grog on September 18, 2007 03:02 PMTired of Whining...no one really cares about the troops, except the troops and their families, and the troops don't really care about service, until they got caught up in the war. Seemed like a pretty good deal, didn't it? A few weekends here and there, a nice supplement to your day job. Now that they're stuck in the tar pit, better to wrap oneself in the flag then let everyone know a pantload dropped. Ah yes, God and Country, right? Didn't think your beloved Republicans would ship you off to war for no reason, did you? Nixon could've ended Vietnam before the second election but didn't. He needed it for the whole "wartime President" re-election theme. Same for this President. Fear will get the electorate out.
And you bought into it. That's your problem.
So here we sit. Millions of Americans that complain that the war was a bad idea...but do nothing about it. Why?...because it doesn't REALLY affect us. Instead, we trumpet the patriots and hope that they believe it...so that when it costs them their lives, we can comfort ourselves in the false belief that it is not a total waste. And we'll continue to do nothing about it until....the draft is re-instituted. Then we'll see all of the war trumpeting Republicans either ending the war or shuttling their kids off to Canada.
Posted by JusttheFacts on September 18, 2007 03:36 PMWhen President Bush and the Senate declared war on Iraq in March 2003,
writes dennis
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Two falsehoods in the very first sentence...hmmm.
Oh wait, maybe you could show us the DECLARATION OF WAR?
Posted by Grim Reefer on September 18, 2007 03:48 PMFirst off Grog, you're such a fringe left Bush hater I wouldn't believe anything you bring to this forum without backing it up. And to date you never have. Not with a credible source anyhow.
Next, when you see this on a poll:
This poll was conducted among a random sample of 706 adults nationwide, interviewed by telephone September 14-16, 2007. The error due to sampling for results based on the entire sample could be plus or minus four percentage points. The error for subgroups is higher.
And thats all the details they'll tell you about the poll, it's probably not a very reliable poll.
How many of thosed polled were Dem, Rep, Ind?
What was the specific question asked (not the little quip they feed you atop the results)?
Maybe you should stick to those wonderful sites you cite so often like firedoglake or crooksandliars so you won't look so foolish next time.
Posted by KW on September 18, 2007 05:31 PMSo tired of whining, go back to Iraq for 5 or 6 years, and I will personally help finance your stay. Stay as long as you want.
Then every day, say to yourself, l sure am glad I convinced those liberals to keep the war going. Boy, if they had had their America hating way, I would be home for good now.
Posted by Sharon B. on September 18, 2007 06:20 PMKW:
Even with the margin of error, the poll is pretty telling. Americans have made up their mind about this war, having heard all the "facts" from Petreus and Bush, and they want out.
No amount of attacking the messenger will change that simple fact.
Posted by Charles B on September 18, 2007 07:44 PMSharon B. You are correct. We don't know you personally from ant. Be we know who you are, what you think and what you want. We know from your postings that you politics are liberal and your social policy preferences are wildly Socialist. We know that you have no experience leading soldiers into war but that you feel qualified to tell the experts how to fight. We recognize you as an elitist, who, through some experience in your life has determined that only you, or others like you should be allowed to make policy. And we know that you are suicidally naive about world politics, that you stubbornly refuse to consider any but the most restrictive energy policies and that you are hopelessly invested in the failed politics of the extreme left. So no Sharon B., we don't know you, but we know who you are.
Posted by Guess Who on September 18, 2007 08:45 PMGuess Who, just this once because you asked so nicely I will tell you that I want our troops home, including one of mine, who was there, and might yet return. I have never told anyone how to fight, you are hallucinating if you think so.
I wish to see oil drilling off shore Florida and California where we know the oil is and have a long established infrastructure to keep the drilling going.
I want to see the natural gas and oil in Colorado developed as well as oil shale, sometime in the future because it is here and it is ours.
I want us to use Canadian tar sands, although I know this is a very difficult process, still, the sands are near us, and not in the Middle East. As for ANWAR, I have listed the problems to be overcome and added some suggestions of my own on how we can develop this field working only during the coldest months of the year because of permafrost.
I am also aware that long reach and directional drilling may not be feasible in ANWAR because of the sub-surface geology
I want some kind of health reform that does away with most of the health insurance industry, let those folks find honest jobs where they don`t make a living denying people treatment.
I would like to see more Western low sulphur coal used, but the mercury in it is still a problem.
My view of World politics is sophisticated enough for me to have known Iraq was going to be a disaster.
Unlike the country western singer who bragged about his ignorance, I did know the difference between Iraq and Iran.
Guess who, you must be a new poster because my thoughts on energy policies, research and development have been posted before, when there were others who knew the oil fields and energy sources and were willing to share information.
Now then Guess Who, I think you are a man who believes that soldiers have more right to opinions on war, and civilians ideas be dammed.
I also think you dislike women who speak up, and unless you are a chemist or petroleum geologist, you are going to dislike the fact that I know more about energy sources then you.
But what the hell,l don`t know you from an ant you bigoted woman hating male.
Posted by Sharon B. on September 18, 2007 09:47 PMTo the original letter writer:
The United States has not declared war on another country since June 5, 1942, when the US declared war on Bulgaria, Hungary, and Romania during WWII. Also, the Senate and House, together, can declare war, usually per the President's request, as in WWII.
So get your facts right before you start shooting your mouth off.
Posted by Greg M. on September 18, 2007 09:59 PMCharles-
The lead paragraph of your little piece says it all.
"CBS) Most Americans continue to want troops to start coming home from Iraq, and most say the plan President Bush announced last week for troop reductions doesn't go far enough, according to a CBS News poll released Monday."
So most Americans would prefer that more of our troops come home sooner.
Boy,I would too but who wouldn't?
You must be realistic about the consequences though, and you don't seem to be.
And thank God our foreign policy is not led by polls, especially skewed ones.
Posted by Get Real on September 18, 2007 10:01 PMCharles B - I wasn't in any way refering to the "margin of error" when denouncing the CBS poll from Grog.
Anytime a poll won't give you the demographics of the group answering you can bet there's a reason.
Polling 706 members of moveon does not give you a true picture of American sentiment on troop withdrawal. (/sarcasm)
And as Get Real so eloquently put it, there's a huge difference between asking someone if they "want the troops home" (who doesn't?) and asking them "should we do an immediate pullout and abandon the people of Iraq?"
If CBS didn't craft this poll to achieve desired results, then why do they hide the details of the poll?
Posted by KW on September 19, 2007 10:54 AMGet Real said:
"And thank God our foreign policy is not led by polls, especially skewed ones."
Well it seems that for the past 6 years our foreign policy has not been led by anybody or anything. That's the crux of the problem.
Posted by drew on September 19, 2007 11:28 AMdrew - Do you prefer a leader who sticks his finger in the air everytime a tough decision has to be made?
Posted by KW on September 19, 2007 12:43 PMKW, No. But we could sure use one who might, at least once in a while, get his head out of his ass.
Posted by on September 19, 2007 01:50 PMThe reason Democrats are tired of the war is because they are weak and lazy.They do not even have to fight in the war to get fatigued. Just watching the news coverage of the war is enough to wear them down.Thank God our brave soldiers [probably Republicans] do not get tired even though they are fighting the battle.If it wasn't for our brave soldiers [probably Republicans] the terrorists would be over here making the the Democrat men wear dresses and dance for them.
Posted by An American on September 19, 2007 01:53 PMGet Real
"You must be realistic about the consequences though, and you don't seem to be."
I was right about the consequences of invading Iraq in the first place, so wouldn't that suggest that I have more credibility than you and Dick Cheney about the consequences of withdrawal?
KW and Get Real:
You keep claiming the poll is skewed, but you can look up the methodology all by yourself if you really are interested. But of course, that would mean that you'll lose your little "the poll is skewed" justification for continuing to deny the reality:
Americans want out of Iraq, and no dog and pony show is going to change that.
Posted by Charles B on September 19, 2007 05:18 PMCharles states"Americans want out of Iraq".The soldiers do not want out of Iraq because they are volunteering to fight.The people are being brainwashed by the Democrat controled media.The media put out there slanted polls to further brainwash the public.They did the same thing on the gun issue.Charles if you want to look into how the media lied about the gun issue and brainwashed the people call the NRA.Here is the opinion of the NRA when it comes to the media."Talk radio is a way around the big media filter," NRA Executive V P Wayne La Pierre said."Its a way to get the truth to the American public that bypasses the "CENSORSHIP" of the'mainstream' media." Charles would you believe a media that would do this to the Second Amendment?Of course not!!! They are doing the same with the war effort.This is why the Democrats want to close down talk radio!!
Posted by An American on September 20, 2007 10:17 AMAnybody want a howling good belly laugh?
Go up to James Jones's letter on the General and MoveOn.org.
Jones is now insisting that HE is a "liberal".
Hey, "An American",
Are you being deserted by Jimmy-boy? Or are you on your way to becoming a "liberal" too?
Posted by Old Grouch on September 20, 2007 11:01 AMCaptain America, Republicans are not fighting this war, our grown up children are.
And you are not either. Fighting the war or grown up.
Posted by Sharon B. on September 20, 2007 12:09 PMSharon B.-
Where the hell do you get your info?
Every poll taken shows our military is made up overwhelmingly by Republicans.
Voluntarily I may add.
Posted by Get Real on September 20, 2007 03:32 PMI do not think Sharon understands what we are talking about on this page.Her answers make no sense.
Posted by An American on September 21, 2007 09:20 AM