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An errant suggestion
The Freedom from Religion Foundation’s lawsuit against Cherry Creek Schools is overdue (“Suggesting church for students gets district sued,” Oct. 17).
There is no evidence to support the premise that religion makes people more moral. To indoctrinate our children otherwise is not the job of our public educators. The merits of the case are sound.
The Founders of our great nation were wise to draft a godless Constitution whose only references to religion are exclusionary. The recommendation to seek religion should never be made to our children by public schools.
Mike Smith, Denver
Most religion makes people less moral
Posted by on October 31, 2007 11:18 AMNo Bible-thumping or God Squading! Keep your religious beliefs to yo-self!
Posted by 40acresandmymuleandNAMvetbennies on October 31, 2007 11:23 AMOrganized Crime Rings: RELIGION. Pimps and hucksters. The Vatican support criminal illegal Mexicans because those illegal are a revenue stream to off-set the Vatican's financial losses due to perverted priests.
MORMON CHURCH: Clinton stripped blacks from the welfare rolls, however, he left Mexicans (legal/illegal) and LDS members on this cash-cow. Along comes Bush. Bush creates the Fitzsimons redevelopment project where all jobs and contracts are reserved for companies whose owners are LDS members. BoPeep, Owens, Salazar, Brimhall (CEO UCH/UCDHSC),and Tauer were Bush's henchmen. Federal funds fraud, waste, abuse, and RICO violations. Brimhall retired and the LDS richly rewarded him for his fraud. They "annoited" Brimhall as their new Director, International Mormon Missons.
Bishop TD Jakes. Jakes was preaching a Hell's fire damnation sermon at Heritage Christian Center, Aurora, CO. Jakes was addressing a fleeced black flock of thousands, when he lost control. Jakes told these black saints they should vote for Bush. Jakes didn't tell them, then Gov. Bush gave him a huge tract of land "free", in Dalas, Tx, so Jakes could build his own mega church. Jakes has a reserved seating section in his mega church for VIP's. Silly me! I thought all saints were VIPS'. Routinely seated in this secure seating are Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin, and Primetime.
BoPeep, James Shore, Salazar, Jakes, Bush, Brimhall, Tauer, and Owens, should all be jailed at SuperMax.
Posted by ididntservenoflag on October 31, 2007 11:48 AMjust remember that it is ok to preach islam and even new york has an all public muslim school that is all warm and fuzzy but g damn those christian schools.
glad to see the progressive liberal left is out today
Posted by on October 31, 2007 12:41 PMCan someone please, calmly and rationally, explain to me why they would be so threatened by the very mention of religion that they must sue? If you read anything you disagree with in this list of SUGGESTIONS (for they are simply that), then ignore it. Poof. Problem solved.
Somewhere along the line, people have decided they have a right to never be offended ever by anything and in a society that values free speech, that simply isn't going to happen. Have we lost the ability to chalk things up to a difference of opinion and move on?
Posted by a casual disinterested observer on October 31, 2007 12:51 PMActually I am not fond of any religions. Muslim and Christians kill each other over different beliefs in the unknowable. All religion is for the weak-minded. Christians in Ireland fought for years over minor differences in their beliefs. It's all folly
Posted by Progressive Liberal Left on October 31, 2007 12:54 PMIt is simple. Religion is mythology. We should treat it as such
Posted by Unreconstructed Liberal and Proud on October 31, 2007 01:14 PMProgressive Liberal Left,
Just a quick correction. The issue in Ireland is not a "religious," one, but an issue of liberty. Just as the American Revolution was not a "religious" revolution, but a Revolution against Tyranny. It has become more focused on religion, as the British north happens to be protestant, and the Irish South Catholic. Distinctly different yes, but that is not the "main" reason for the conflict in Ireland. It has, and always will be about freedom and sovereignty for the Irish Isle.
Posted by Dan2 on October 31, 2007 01:14 PMThe study of all religions as an elective might be usful in the public school ciriculum but to suggest attendance it is going too far. Religions tend to make ordinarily rational people into believers of the supernatural.
Posted by Stan B on October 31, 2007 01:41 PMI love to see the irrational reaction of "progressives" whenever the topic of religion is tossed into a forum. Its like pouring blood into a tank of sharks. So far the "open minded" among us have accused religion as being responsible for moral failure, bizarrely compared it to organized crime, and relegated it to folly, mythology, and the supernatural. With that kind of sensitivity, I wonder why democrats perceive themselves as having a "God Gap"?
http://www.democrats.org/a/2007/05/dnc_faith_advis_1.php.
And when the religious barbarians like Dobson want to jam their faith down everyone's throat, that's sensitive?
Posted by Unreconstructed and Proud on October 31, 2007 03:19 PMDan2 said:
"Just a quick correction. The issue in Ireland is not a "religious," one, but an issue of liberty."
You can call them "anti-English Irishmen" or "Pro-English Irishmen" but it's funny how the combatants always seem to break down into Catholic or Protestant.
That's really sinking to new lows in feebleness of argument, Dan2!
Posted by drew on October 31, 2007 03:53 PM@12:41
"glad to see the progressive liberal left is out today"
I am neither a democrat or republican, so your "liberal" name-calling is just that.
However, I sure as heck don't need anyone telling (or "suggesting") me what to believe or how to live my life.
Some things, like your religious leanings and your lack of knowledge of how to use proper punctuation and capitalization, are best left private.
In 1977, FFRF's complaint halted invocations and prayers at University of Wisconsin-Madison graduation ceremonies, ending a 122-year abuse and FFRF continues to do battle with the mf and wretches that means evil and despicable in dictionary.com and what they call themselves: "Amazing Grace... that saved a wretch like me."
Abuse can occur for decades because there is nobody to stop it. Mf/wretches Christians are fond of shoving their "jew" first incarnated going from god to human and than transmogrified going from "jew" to Christian god down my throat because they comprise the majority in a nation created by a godless Constitution that actually bans the "jew" and all gods in Article 6 Paragraph 3.
The mf/wretches jam their "jew" down my throat in adding his name to Balamy's Pledge of Allegiance forcing all school children to utter spoke in the wheel of excrement. I embrace the virtue of brevity: Ends.
Posted by Richard Grimes, Deicide r22037@yahoo Free blasphemous songs on cassette with me on mediocre paino. on November 2, 2007 12:54 PMwww.ffrf.org Join this freethinker organization; help stem the tide by Christians to turn America into a theocracy: "under God" spells theocracy.
Posted by CDG on November 2, 2007 01:16 PM