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War with Iran

Thursday, November 1 at 1:19 PM

Brian Quade of Denver writes:

On October 24, George W. Bush talked about the day “when the Cuban people have the freedom they have awaited for so long” and when they will “rise up to demand their liberty". He also said, “the dissidents of today will be the nation’s leaders tomorrow", a recycled line from a speech he gave more than 2 years ago to the National Endowment for Democracy. This rhetoric comes as the Whitehouse postures toward war with Iran. I suppose Bush thinks the Iranian people will soon “have the freedom they have awaited for so long", just like the Iraqi people now have. Fidel’s brother, Raul Castro, will lead Cuba long after Bush is gone. Where will Jeb be then? Perhaps Bush should heed his own words.
The dissidents of today will be the leaders of tomorrow.

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READER COMMENTS

When Bush talks about spreading democracy he is pulling the wool over our eyes. He ACTUALLY supports the dictator Musharref in Pakistan, apartheid in Israel,
a dictatorial monarchy in Saudi Arabia, and another dictator in Egypt.

Posted by on November 1, 2007 02:33 PM

Apartheid in Israel... that's a laugh.

And you pretend like the communi... democrats care about democracy?

Posted by on November 1, 2007 02:39 PM

Mr. Bush always knows what everyone else wants. Conveniently, it always matches his personal agenda.

Posted by on November 1, 2007 02:39 PM

What is really funny is that you most likely believe that the demonrats, with their total collectivist agenda, would be any better.

Posted by on November 1, 2007 02:43 PM

Deja vu...and we're seeing the same talking monkeys falling for the same tricks as before Iraq.

Just goes to show you that you can fool some of the rednecks all of the time.

Posted by jay on November 1, 2007 02:56 PM

Yo,Jay! Channeling Matthew Shepard again?

Posted by Jimminy on November 1, 2007 04:12 PM

I see no concentration camps, no anti-Jew laws, no aryan supremcy being embodied in law. Nor do I see the entire government being placed under a sole person. Your fascist observation is fallacious.

The republicans have spent money like democrats. They have focused too tactically on the Iraq theater of operations in the global war on terror, losing sight of the strategic picture of destroying terrorists around the world. They have attempted pass amnesty for illegal aliens and open our borders. All of these things are bad.

The republicans have, at least, not tried to nationalize the health care industry. They have not tried to use the scientifically dubious theory of global warming to scare the nation into allowing more oppressive control of industry. They have not attempted to disarm the public and leave them unable to defend themselves against criminals.

All of the items listed above are on the democrat agenda. These items push us more towards a collectivist state. If that is a goal you desire, then admit it. But the claimw that democrats are communistic in their approach to government are accurate. Don't delude yourself.

Posted by on November 1, 2007 04:23 PM

careful jimmy your white hood is slipping off and we might be able to make out your face

Posted by on November 1, 2007 04:29 PM

4:23,

I know you prefer corporate socialism over democratic socialism but how does that improve the situation of us commoners?

Posted by Stan B on November 1, 2007 06:28 PM

We can only hope that America's leaders of today will be the nation's dissidents of tomorrow.

Posted by on November 1, 2007 08:10 PM

I say we should give 10 nuclear bombs to the leader of every country in the world, that way everyone will feel safe. There, does everybody feel safer now?

Posted by jgd777 on November 1, 2007 10:05 PM

The Middle East is a plantation. A few heavily armed (U.S. weapons) whites (Israelis) controlling a very large number of coloreds. Israel is to be feared. Thye murdered 34 US sailors on the USS Liberty and severely injured an additional 174. Why didn't we bomb and invade Israel?

Posted by on November 2, 2007 09:10 AM

Isn't it convenient how the wingnuts have shoved the USS Liberty completely down the memory hole, terrorists are where you find them. I'd wager very few of them even know about the incident.I note the usual anonymous wingnut is here with its yammering about "collectivism" and other isms.

Posted by patrick on November 2, 2007 09:29 AM

I note the usual leftists are here throwing around tired-out childish perjoratives like "wingnut".

If you are worried about anonymity, why not post your last name, phone number, and address as well?

Posted by on November 2, 2007 09:46 AM

4:29-It's not possible to attach a photo on this blog,so I'm sorry to tell you I'm prevented from showing you my face,but I can tell you my name.It's Paul Atreides.

Posted by Jimminy on November 2, 2007 10:40 AM

Patrick,

And how could those wingnuts totally forget to mention in 1988 when a US Navy pilot shoot down an Iranian passenger plane killing 280 citizens, or one of our F-15s shooting down two of our black hawk helicopters in 1994. and how about the US bombing and killing those Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan. And everyone knows Pat Tillman's death was for some covert reason. I bet all of those incidents were intentional. "Conspiracy theories are for bored people"

The Palestinian could have their own nation years ago. As soon as they except the fact that Israel is not going away, this war will end. As long as the Arab world believes they can drive Israel into the sea the war will continue. Iran needs to understand, Israel will be there long after Ajad and his fanatics are dead and buried.

Posted by jgd777 on November 2, 2007 12:31 PM

9:10
I like your analogy of a Middle Eastern plantation. I don't however agree with the rest of your statement about Israel. It is here to stay because unless the indigenous people are a majority there is no hope for a power sharing arrangement. That is the case of the US (Indians) and Australia (Aboriginees). In cases where the indigenous people are a majority (South Africa) reversal is possible. That is why Israel always tries to stay predominently Jewish.
That state is like an Orwellian "Animal Farm" where all citizens (to paraphrase) are created equal but some are more equal than others.
Arab Israeli citizens live in jerrymandered districts where they cannot get 25% representation in the Knesset. They also cannot buy property in Jerusalem (appartments and homes), and the state spends a fraction on the infrastructure of Arab towns of what it does on Jewish towns.
Please don't someone just jumpin with the old cliche of hoe Arabs in Israel aremuch better off than in other Middle Eastern countries. We do have different standards for them no?

Posted by observer on November 2, 2007 07:45 PM

observer,

Let me get this straight, are you saying that if the majority of people in Israel were Muslims then everyone would be happy? The Arab nations have been trying to destroy Israel since "48" and now you are saying for Israel to just put down there defenses and let the Muslims take control. Jews are persecuted in almost every country in the Middle East, unless you want to believe Ajad's ramblings about how nicely they are treated in Iran.

If you want to compare indigenous people, Israel should be looked in the same way as we do with Indian reservations here in the US. The Jewish nation controls a small section of land, Israel, why should they have to be controlled by the Muslims? This war has never been about land, it is about driving the Jews into the sea, plain and simple. The Muslims have no desire to live peacefully with the Jews, Never have, never will.

I would say the Arabs in Israel are living better than the Jews are living in other Middle East countries, like Iran.

Posted by jgd777 on November 2, 2007 10:01 PM

jgd777

This post is really not concerned with how Jews are treated in any part of the world. I also don't care how "tiny" the part of the Arab world they used as a state is (size does not matter after all!). I'm just asking you to refute the assertion that Israel, "the beacon of democracy" in the Middle East, is in fact an Orwellian Animal Farm.

Posted by observer on November 3, 2007 08:08 PM

That particular refutation is a self-evident truth.For those who want to impose more rigor on the process,data input from Israel as well as its enemies on the treatment of women ought to suffice.

Posted by Jimminy on November 4, 2007 09:08 AM

Now that Musharref in Pakistan has declared an emergency and morphed into a dictator it will be noted how much support he gets from mf W. Bush.

Note: dictionary.com: mf and wretch mean the same: evil and despicable: Wretch is what Christians call themselves. "Amazing Grace...that saved a wretch like me." A fictional "jew" morphed into a god and saved the wretches.

Deicide Corner: “I left that church with rich and royal hatred of the priest as a person, and a loathing for the church as an institution, and I vowed that I would never go inside a church again.” -- Eugene V. Debs, describing his teenage reaction to a hellfire lecture by a priest

Posted by Richard Grimes, Deicide/Misanthrope towards god's mouthpieces r22037@yahoo.com on November 5, 2007 09:57 AM