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The Great War
Many states declared Armistice Day a legal holiday.
It was resolved by Congress in 1926 that
We of Veterans For Peace believe that we can best honor those who have died in war by keeping our freedoms at home alive and by working to end war. As a Viet Nam veteran, I believe that it is patriotic to seek peace, not only for the United States, but for the whole world. I believe that this nation is strong enough to lead the world by example rather than attempting to drive it by force.
Those who would
Veterans For Peace and the groups with which we are allied
If veterans get to march in the Veterans Day Parade, then all veteran of whatever persuasion, get to march. Fair is fair - except in war.
Posted by Pat Stoob on November 12, 2007 01:46 PMIf veterans get to march in the Veterans Day Parade, then all veteran of whatever persuasion, get to march. Fair is fair - except in war.
Posted by Pat Stoob on November 12, 2007 01:46 PMIf veterans get to march in the Veterans Day Parade, then all veteran of whatever persuasion, get to march. Fair is fair - except in war.
Posted by Pat Stoob on November 12, 2007 01:46 PMNot all vets to be honored fought in wars; they served our country.
In 1954 Eisenhower did change the "holiday" name to Veterans Day with proclamation 3071: "in the intervening years, the United States has been involved in two other great military conflicts, which have added millions of veterans living and dead to the honor rolls of this Nation"
Frank fails to say why the parade was not allowing their organization to be in the parade this year as it had been last year; becasue they did disrupt the parade last year by potesting war; the organizers of this parade have stated that the parade is not about war but about honoring veterans
People like Dravur fail to recognize that the parade has an advertisement and glorification of war agenda. Too bad he never enlisted. But then again, he can't read: "We have no desire to disrupt the parade".
It can't be called a Veteran's Day Parade without inclusion of all veterans. Let's call it "Veterans for the glorification of war parade" and then exclude the others. That's fair.
Posted by whackeddravur on November 9, 2007 12:55 PMAww yes, the horning in..... Let's see. You want to disrupt someone else's parade for your own political agenda. Gee, and the organizers don't want you to... Waaah wahhh.
Create your own parade and then do what you want. Should they be allowed to exclude the KKK vets? The Muppet vets? Why do you think your rights to freedom of speech trumps their right to association.
If I have a parade for Rational People of America, should I allow Micheal Moore and Rosie Odonnell participate? nope. Let them form their own parade.
get over it.
Posted by Dravur on November 9, 2007 10:25 AMFrank, if you are truly a Viet Nam veteran, then you will understand how you were treated by the war protesters during that period. You will remember how it felt to be spat upon and you will remember how it felt to come home to people who treated you as if you had done something wrong.
Veterans Day has been established to honor Veterans, not so you can make a personal stance. If you must make a statement, then get a permit and hold you own parade.
Contrary to what you believe, ALL Veterans will be represented....even you, if you are in-fact a veteran.
Frank, you're absolutely right. And in being right, you'll have to expect the couch-potato warmongers who don't know what it means to see people blown apart, to come out of the woodwork on this blog.
They'll call you a coward, while they hear of their brothers being sacrificed and watch the pretty uniforms trumpeting the siren song of patriotism. Every generation has certain of its members get "sold" on the idea that "freedom isn't free", so we'll send someone else to kill and die for us, while we wrap ourselves in red white and blue cloth and march to the sound of the piper and ooh and ahh at the fireworks. It's all a lovely pageant, isn't it?
But all veterans know....when you're dead, you're dead. No amount of trumpeting freedom or honor is going to comfort your family, or replace the time-shared experiences of a loved one....lost.
So, let them have their parade. Those who march can consider themselves lucky. And those who buy into the false idolatry of the flag, patriotism and jingoism can become the next victims of war. Such a waste.
Posted by Telewar on November 8, 2007 05:18 PM
- In Pakistan, or U.S., lawyers make a stand
- First lesson in Disability 101: Treat me like a regular person -- because I am
- A few questions about abortion
- GUEST COLUMNIST: A new Russia emerges
- Returning veterans need support
- The harsh realities of global warming
- School choice the objective solution
- Bush and Gore: The path not taken