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August 15, 2007 6:00 AM

Help choose Drew's 25th anniversary cartoons

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HELP DREW CELEBRATE 25 YEARS of win,lose & DREW!

Thanks to everyone who has logged in to vote for their favorites. Keep those choices coming.

This September I'll be celebrating 25 years as the sports cartoonist here at the Rocky Mountain News. Hard to believe it's been that long, but, suffice to say, that is a lot of cartoons.

So, I need your help. Tell me your favorite win,lose & Drew cartoons from the past, we'll count up the votes and post the top10 here on the blog. Just hit the comment icon on the page here, leave a favorite or two and we'll take care of the rest. And stay tooned because we have some more exciting ways in the very near future to celebrate my 25 years that will involve you all. Thanks for reading.

Drew



Discussion

  • August 15, 2007

    7:14 AM

    GenX Curmudgeon writes:

    Mine is the Tom Jackson retirment cartoon with his parting shot for John Madden.

  • August 15, 2007

    1:02 PM

    Tom writes:

    "A Patty Melt" from June 1, 2002.

    Roy got used and abused by the Red Wings in the playoffs, and it was consistently a thing of beauty. And I'm not even a Wings fan. Just a fan of any team that shut Roy's fat mouth. The man was far too cocky for his own good.

  • August 15, 2007

    1:20 PM

    Roy fan writes:

    Roy was the greatest goalie to walk the planet. He had every right to be cocky. He was good and he knew it and so did everyone else.

  • August 15, 2007

    3:31 PM

    Tom writes:

    Roy was not the greatest goalie to walk the planet. Terry Sawchuk holds that honor. It's not even in dispute.

    I'm guessing you're one of these hockey fans who began paying attention to hockey about 2 minutes after Colorado bought their first Cup, so you think you know a lot about the game.

    Read up on the goaltenders of old, and you might learn something about the VAST difference between Sawchuk and other goalies of Terry's time and Roy.

    There is no comparison. Sawchuk is the greatest netminder of any age in the history of hockey.

    You could look it up.

  • August 15, 2007

    5:26 PM

    wildwestjoker writes:

    My favorite of all time was the Rich Karlis facing the multiple-upright goalposts when he was going through a rough time and hitting uprights. The second was following the first Super Bowl win. Third was the two Dan Issels yelling at Kiki Vandeweghe in the Nuggets' absurd management move. And the September 11 cartoon.

  • August 15, 2007

    5:30 PM

    Harry Thomas writes:

    1. The Rich Karlis "Fork" cartoon.
    2. The divorce settlement (she got the Bronco tickets)

  • August 15, 2007

    5:56 PM

    chizzie writes:

    I personally like the one were Joe Sakic is sleeping ( with the Stanley Cup) sitting on his dresser, and John Elway looking in his window at it. Thats the best one. The most (serious) one I like is the one you did when Charles Shultz passed away. You had the 'Peanuts' gang, on the baseball field, sad and crying.

  • August 16, 2007

    7:15 AM

    Thrawn writes:

    I remember one that came out during the 2002 NHL playoffs at the end of the series with the San Jose Sharks. It was a brutal 7 game series, and the Avs finally finished the sharks. There was an Avalanche player on a small fishing boat beating a shark in the head with a bat. The player was saying, "Glad that is over." Behind him is a huge battleship with the Red Wings logo on it with a giant cannon pointed at him.

  • August 16, 2007

    7:38 AM

    Roy Fan writes:

    I have followed Roy since his early days with the Canadiens. Roy was voted the greatest goaltender ever in 2004 by a panel of sports writers and by a fan poll. Not to mention he holds the NHL record for wins, games played, playoff games played, and playoff games won. Not to mention those 4 Stanley cups. He also won 3 Vezina Trophies ( Althought they came before he ever came to Colorado. ) He has 3 Conn Smythe trophies to boot. BUT, Sawchuk was a very good goaltender in his day, but Roy was just so much better. One of the best toons Drew has done is the one where Roy was put in the hall of fame, the cherry on top of everything he has done.

  • August 16, 2007

    9:16 AM

    Tom writes:

    Royfan,

    Invoke all the records and "votes" you want. Most, if not all, the voters that took part in this 2004 "vote" generally pay attention to current figures in whatever sport they cover. They generally write columns or host talk shows, so they're looking for their own ratings.

    Roy was only as good as the teams he was on.

    In Montreal, he was surrounded by outstanding players because the Habs drafted well.
    In Colorado, he was surrounded by good players because the Avalanche outspent everyone.

    If Roy had been traded to, say, Washington or Hartford, or Buffalo at the time, there is no way we would even be talking about any of this. Roy was a decent goalie, who had the fortune of being surrounded by a talented GM in Montreal, and a rich set of owners in Denver. Period.

    And it's silly how Colorado claims him as their own. If he's so ingrained in Denver, why does he have nothing to do with this team on any level any longer? He was here for his big fat paychecks, just like so many others who have passed this way. Roy was a selfish brat who whined and complained his way out of Montreal. So, he was left in a game to soak up a bunch of goals against. What you so there is take it like a man and be professional. He acted like a spoiled rotten child.

    Joe sakic will do the same when he hangs them up. And he will always be a Nordique first.

  • August 16, 2007

    9:26 AM

    BRONCO MILITIA writes:

    drew....there are too many favorites to list here. Too bad your archives only go back to 2002. There are a few hockey toons that I would love to see again. The Roy cartoon with him tethered to the crossbar is a good one-maybe around the 2001 playoffs? Also, the toon of elway selling beer out of an ice-cream truck.

    But my alltime favorite series of cartoons are the Griese and Plummer series. Thanks for all the laughs.

  • August 16, 2007

    12:20 PM

    Thrawn writes:

    Tom,

    I think some of the points you make are a bit unfair. I do actually agree with you that Sawchuk was a better goaltender as many, many more of his wins were shutouts, and he finished his career on a horrible expansion team. (This coming from a big Avalanche fan as I am.)

    However, even though Roy had the benefit of not playing on mediocre teams, he was capable of stealing playoff rounds and even Stanley Cups against teams better stacked. 1993, the L.A. Kings seemed to be the better team, but they had trouble cracking Roy.

    1996, The Avs do not win the Cup without him. I doubt they get past Chicago, let alone Detroit.

    2001, most of the playoffs seemed to be played in the Avalanche zone once Forsberg went down with that spleen. St. Louis dominated posession in the Avs zone, and New Jersey looked like they were on a 60 minute power play. No Roy = No Cup.

    Also, they did not outspend everyone. They paid a lot of money, but they were not like Detroit and New York who offered cash ot any free agent out there. They were ranked about 6th in payroll, so if the Cup could be "bought," one of those teams would have won the auction. Most of the top talent they had for the 2001 Cup team were home grown. (Sakic, Hejduk, Tanguay, Drury, Foote, etc.) Forsberg was drafted elsewhere, but at that point he'd only played for Colorado. Yes, they did trade for Blake that year, and Bourque the year before, but their free spending on free agents did not seem to run as rampant as Detroit, Dallas, New York, Philadelphia, and even St. Louis who was starting to join in.

    Yes, money was an advantage, but you still had to be smart about it. New York just went after big names and missed the playoffs every year, and they were always the ones with the highest payroll.

    Roy was always a gamer, and even though I could have lived without his arrogance, I appreciate what he brought to the team.

  • August 16, 2007

    12:59 PM

    Tom writes:

    What this really comes down to is this....

    The Avalanche were a ready-made contender when they arrived in Colorado. Once they lucked into Roy, that was the last piece they needed. A reliable, if not a spectacular goalie who had playoff experience and had recently won the Cup in Montreal.

    Sakic was already a franchise player. Forsberg was already a franchise player.

    The Quebec Nordiques did all the heavy lifting so that the state of Colorado could shine brightly in the eyes of the NHL.

    This town wasn't lobbying to get an NHL franchise before Quebec had all the problems it ended up with. No one here cared about getting a team.

    Then, suddenly.......bang. Instant winners.

    The fact that Colorado never had to deal with any level of expansion heartache will always bug me and a lot of hockey fans. Same thing with Dallas winning after it left Minnesota. Same thing with Carolina when it left Hartford.

    At some point, likely in the very near future, the Avs will become a flailing franchise. The Avs will have their time when they have to resort to a complete rebuild. They will have to miss the playoffs several season in a row. And Pepsi Center will become a morgue with less than 10,000 fans attending games. Joe Sakic will become a distant memory.

    Those days are coming. I will be very, very interested in watching how this town deals with the dark days. Because, this town has been spoiled rotten with this hockey team for far too long.

    The NHL did something right by placing a salary cap, but now it's screwing it up by raising the dollar figure too early. The Avs have consistently proved that they cannot compete with a spending limit. If they can spend whatever they want, then they're fine. Without Stan Kronke paying the bills, this team would be in the same boat as the Columbus Blue Jackets and the phoenix Coyotes.

  • August 16, 2007

    7:30 PM

    Brian writes:

    Some I remember, impossible to only pick 2...

    1. Rich Karlis "fork" cartoon.
    2. Elway looking through Joe Sakic's window at the Stanley Cup.
    3. Memory of Charles Shultz
    4. Memory of Darrent Williams
    5. The end of the '93 baseball season with the quote from A. Bartlett Giamatti.
    6. Elway lifting the dogbone after the drive.
    7. Memory of Daryl Kile
    8. The snowball incident vs. the 49ers.

  • August 16, 2007

    9:43 PM

    btr writes:

    "Mrs. Elway,Can Johnny come out and play?"
    (Little kids from a snowball fight knocking on the door.)I think it was AT Arrowhead.Theory was that this California boy never did like the white stuff.

  • August 17, 2007

    7:59 AM

    Thrawn writes:

    The fact that they were a ready-made contender bugs a lot of people. I get that, but then, when have you found life to be fair about anything?

    This franchise never would have won the Cup in Quebec. There is no way Montreal trades Roy to their biggest rivals. The Avs also made that move that brought Ozolinsh here, where he was considered one of the last pieces as well.

    I fully expect there to be some lean years in the future, but I am not sure that will come sooner than later with their recent moves. The salary cap hurt the Avs, not because they were not capable of operating without spending, but because Pierre goofed up with the way he structured the team. They were way too top heavy with superstar power that it was impossible to keep them all with that first salary Cap number while the ret of the team were a bunch of scrubs. Dallas had most of their contracts expire near the lockout, and Detroit manages to keep good talent that is willing to play for less, which has kept them at the top.

    This team has had a history of good drafts and deals, so I disagree that they.

    Besides, most of the other cities that have gone through tough times are not special either. Before Detroit became contenders, there was a time you could have thrown a grenade in their stands and not hurt anyone. Same in Vancouver, Dallas, and even some of the more "traditional" markets. I can only think of a few cities north of the border like Toronto and a few others where the fans have stuck with the team. I'm not sure why Denver only seems to get that criticism. Fair weatheredness has always been an issue in any sport.

  • August 18, 2007

    9:14 AM

    wendy writes:

    Drew, Congratulations on 25 years! 'Chizzie' nominated my favorite as well - Sakic sleeping with one eye open, on Denver's first Championship trophy, as Elway looks in. And then of course, anything that digs at the wings or the raiders is good too.

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