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February 25, 2008 8:00 PM

Drew Litton: Forsberg Returns

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And the nomination for the hardest to believe story of the year...Foppa retruns! I can't possibly fathom why the Avalanche would want to bring Forsberg back except perhaps this...we're talking about them. Sometimes making a splash is worthwhile even if it's just a drip in an ocean of Avalanche problems. Let me hear what you think by leaving a comment.

I had one concept going into the afternoon, that I thought I would go with after spending the morning at the dentist, but the Forsberg story broke and I had to change directions. One thing about being a sports cartoonist. Ya gotta be flexible.

Still working away at my Rockies animated cartoon called "Mission IncRedible". I'm making progress after doing about 45 drawings last week for the storyboards. It's great fun and I can hardly wait to get it online. No release date yet but stay tooned.

Drew



Discussion

  • February 25, 2008

    11:51 PM

    Tom writes:

    Depression is the worst cologne.

    While I'm sure there are several Avalanche fans who are beyond thrilled with the return of Peter Forsberg, this is a clear sign that the franchise is mired in the past.
    They fail to see that moving on is the only option for actual success. Yes, the Pepsi Center will be filled with screaming fans wanting a glimpse of the "glory days", but one has to wonder how many people will end up disappointed that they paid such a high price for a ticket only to find out that Forsberg might not play that particular night because his ankles won't allow him to.
    Stan Kronke has become a desperate person. Both of his franchises are in danger of missing the playoffs. He's afraid of losing.
    What he and so many others with ties to the Avalanche fail to realize is that losing for a little while builds as much if not more character than winning. Learning how to take defeat graciously and humbly, and with pride and honor is good for the human soul.
    The Avalanche and its fan base have never had to endure losing. They need to more than they realize. They need to understand how the other half lives so that they can have greater respect for the game of hockey and what it's supposed to instill in those who play the game. They need to learn how to win without money being the main part of the equation. They used to be able to just buy anything they wanted if they hit a rough stretch and all would be well and good. Now, they aren't allowed to so that or they aren't the only team that has the ability to do so.
    Vancouver, Detroit, Ottawa, etc had to be terrible for long stretches to become good again. Because of their sacrifice, they are now extremely strong franchises with solid futures because they built through the draft and signed free agents to reasonable contracts that didn’t sacrifice the team’s ability to still have money and resources left over to continue to build.
    The Avalanche had a tendency to panic and make awful decisions such as acquiring Theo Fleury, trading Chris Drury, trading for Jose Theodore, getting Jordan Leopold for Alex Tanguay, and then overpaying for marginal players in Smyth and Hannan. Now they are in panic mode once again. The Smyth and Hannan signings have been more-less a bust, and now Stan Kronke and company are in dire straits. The only thing they can do now to get people’s attention is to reach for the past.
    So they reach for a older, broken Peter Forsberg to save the Avalanche from the, ***gasp***....horror of....LOSING!!! Oh my!!! What a tragedy it would be if the Avalanche actually became a normal franchise that goes through some ups and downs....God, that would just be awful wouldn’t it?
    The Avs and their fans could stand to learn a little humility. They could stand to learn how to suffer with their team and see that they can still hold strong to their favorite players and team even if there isn’t year in and year out success. The Avalanche are in danger of becoming the New York Rangers West….a team that just keeps spending and relying on dollars and hope rather than facing reality.
    It’s fine that fans may get a chance to say a proper goodbye to Peter. They really didn’t get that opportunity. Now they will. But let’s be realistic. This version of “Foppa” is not going to skate in (assuming he can skate at all) and save or salvage anything. He’s a show pony for Stan Kronke to save some face. He’s banking on using Peter to fill seats and sell tickets. It’s a ploy designed to get people talking about the Avalanche again, because the Avs haven’t been on anyone’s radar for nearly 2 seasons.

    The Avalanche and it’s fans should realize that they cannot dip into the past and try and recreate history. They are trying to turn back time, and it is futile, for Father Time is undefeated, and there is no consolation prize for losing in a shootout.

    Cheers.

  • February 26, 2008

    2:33 AM

    Dave writes:

    I agree completely with the eloquent post of Tom's. The Avalanche are indeed living in the past. The current composition of the team is very undersized by today's standards and not nearly physical enough to deal with the Western Conf teams. Forsberg adds some much needed grit (if he can still play) but the problem lies more with the powder-puff D-Corps. Hannan is a nice 2nd or 3rd line D-man but he's not anywhere close to being the physical shut-down D-man the Avs need.

  • February 26, 2008

    3:37 AM

    Jacob writes:

    How have the Avs not prepared for the future Tom? Statsny, Wolski, Hensick, Cumiskey, Guite, all of these players are home grown. They're not the quality of what Hejduk Drury and Tanguay were when they were young, but still a quality base. How did the Anaheim Ducks win the Stanley Cup last year? Ryan Getzlaf and Giguere were home grown while they acquired FREE AGENTS in Scott Niedermayer and Teemu Selanne. To win a championship, you need to mix young talent with veteran leadership. You can't say that the Avalanche haven't done that. The problem has been in the sieve that we call a defense and coach Q switching goalies if one gives up a bad rebound. Scott Hannan is a 2nd defenseman, the Avs need a top tier defenseman and a good goalie. They won't make the playoffs this year, but at least it will be nice to see #21 back in uniform. Who knows, maybe he can suit up again next year, either way, it's not a bad signing by the Avs especially considering that there were other teams willing to give him 3 years. Why not take a gamble on a former MVP? They gave up no assets and are paying him at a low cost. I don't see how people can kill this acquisition. If he doesn't succeed, it's not like they're depending on him to run the offense, he'll probably be a 2nd line left wing. If he does turn into the player he was a season ago (50 points in 57 games), then the Avalanche got an absolute steal. It boggles my mind how people can rip this acquisition.

  • February 26, 2008

    4:09 AM

    Jacob writes:

    Also gotta love how Drew rarely draws cartoons placing the blame or giving credit to the wrong guys. It's Melo and A.I.'s fault for the Nuggets struggles, when George Karl coaches with two hands around his neck and is a bigger primadonna than everyone on the team not named JR, or the Nuggets front office which has refused to address the Nuggets biggest need (3 point shooting) every year for the past 4 years. When the Rockies made the World Series, there was ZERO credit given to Dan O'Dowd (a guy everyone wanted to run out of town years ago) for having the patience to develop players and not make a trade for an aging veteran. Shannahan is given all the blame for the defensive personnel when Ted Sundquist has an equal say in acquisitions as well. How can Shannahan be the only bonehead between the two GMs? It would be nice for once if we saw a cartoon which went past who we see on the SportsCenter highlights and actually analyzed the situation fairly. The toon about Melo and A.I. being ballhogs are very true, but has anyone ever watched the NBA? Dwayne Wade, LeBron James, Dirk Nowitzki, Chauncey Billups, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant. All these guys have 2 things in common. They're all notorious ball hogs, and they've all been to the NBA Finals

  • February 26, 2008

    6:40 AM

    Gordo writes:

    I think this has a chance to be a good pick-up for the Aves. Forsberg has the potential to get the offense some spark. The only problem with Forsberg is that he is injury prone. How many games will he be able to play? I think Forsberg is the best player in the league (when he is healthy) but how long can he last?

    I do have to agree with Tom and that the Aves need to concentrate on the future and younger players and developing them.

    I would like to know what is the goal of signing Forsberg back? Is it to help the Aves get into the playoffs this year? To bring back and let a great player finish his career (if this is his last year) with the Aves? These two I can see as being possible. But if it is to win the Stanley Cup then they are joking and wasting their money.

  • February 26, 2008

    7:17 AM

    RedRover writes:

    What are the chances that Forsberg wanted to retire as an Av and thats why he signed with them? With all the problems he has had I just cannot see him playing much more. It will be great to see 21 suiting up for Colorado again if only for a few games.

  • February 26, 2008

    8:11 AM

    Frosty writes:

    I give Forsberg 2 weeks before he complains his hair hurts and he goes on the DL with fractured hair follicles.

  • February 26, 2008

    8:11 AM

    Frosty writes:

    I give Forsberg 2 weeks before he complains his hair hurts and he goes on the DL with fractured hair follicles.

  • February 26, 2008

    8:12 AM

    Frosty writes:

    I give Forsberg 2 weeks before he complains his hair hurts and he goes on the DL with fractured hair follicles.

  • February 26, 2008

    8:12 AM

    Frosty writes:

    I give Forsberg 2 weeks before he complains his hair hurts and he goes on the DL with fractured hair follicles.

  • February 26, 2008

    8:12 AM

    Frosty writes:

    I give Forsberg 2 weeks before he complains his hair hurts and he goes on the DL with fractured hair follicles.

  • February 26, 2008

    8:51 AM

    T.C. writes:

    The Avalanche need defense, not Peter Forsberg.
    It's so obvious why Kronke signed him. It's a quick fix solution to the empty seats at Pepsi Center. That's it.
    The Avalanche, throughout their history in Denver have always been about quick fixes. They never take the time to build anything. They just buy it or recycle old garbage.

  • February 26, 2008

    8:59 AM

    Mark writes:

    Tom... less is more. I couldn't possibly read all that. There are books shorter than your post.

    Frosty, click the button once, it's not a cross walk signal.

    Finally, Forsberg single handedly kept the AVS from the playoffs last year. He was just under a point per game (15 pts. in 17 games) for Nashville, and had 4 points in 5 playoff games.

    The way the AVS are right now, we could use a point per game player, as well as the attention it will generate.

    I think it's a great pick up.

  • February 26, 2008

    9:21 AM

    Jacob writes:

    Lol, gotta love the respect that goes Peter's way. Must be some punk 14 year old who doesn't know who Patrick Roy is and has only heard stories of John Elway. I love that people make fun of Forsberg for being injury prone. Has anyone ever seen the dude play? He bangs with everybody out there. He is the Allen Iverson of hockey only bigger. The man has gone 100% on every shift of his career with most of those coming against the top defensive pairing. He's not brittle, I'd love to see some of these punks go one on one with Chris Pronger or Scott Stevens or Al MaCinnis for 25 minutes a night. I'm sure your hair follicles will be hurting too. Show a little respect for a man who sacrificed his body for the team's success. People can act real tough in front of a keyboard sometimes.

  • February 26, 2008

    9:53 AM

    Tom writes:

    Just making a clear point Mark. It's your choice to read my posts or ignore them.
    I'll add that other bad scents for cologne are DESPERATION, PANIC, and FALSE HOPE, not to mention DECEPTION.
    The Avs front office and Stan Kronke are playing a game here that isn't fair to a lot of people. As I have stated, I do think this signing has a lot of sentimental value, but that's where this all ends. This Forsberg is not going to make a difference except to put more fannies in the Pepsi Center. The Avalanche franchise really should try to be honest with the fans of the team and explain that this move was designed to boost attendance and national attention on the franchise, but little else. The Avs have been left out in the cold as far as the spotlight goes. The Avs are a team that has been passed by too many other teams (Nashville, Vancouver, Phoenix, St. Louis, and even Columbus) in the pecking order of the Western Conference. The Avs are desperate. They are in panic-mode. They are trying to dig up the remnants of a long-lost era.
    They seem to have a difficult time accepting that their Glory days and times of unlimited spending have passed. They have not adapted to the new NHL as well as most other teams in the conference.
    They had their time. There are now other teams that are having their time. It's not that the Avalanche won't be better in a few years or so, but they are trying far too hard to hang on to a period of time that is no more.
    For the Avalanche's sake, and the people who care about the team, I guess I would hope that this doesn't end up as one big embarassment. But, it could end up as "Foppa's Floppa."

  • February 26, 2008

    12:01 PM

    Tom writes:

    Okay.

    Forsberg is signed.

    Now the Avs bring back Adam Foote?

    What is this? The Blues Brothers?

    "We're getting the band back together...."

    The Avs seriously overpaid for Foote. A first eounder either this year or in '09. Both are deep drafts.

    So much for the immediate future of the Avalanche.

  • February 26, 2008

    12:59 PM

    Jacob writes:

    I agree on the Foote thing, they did overpay for him. I would have done a 2nd rounder for him. They need to resign him even if it means giving up the 4th round pick to justify this trade. But at the same time, they needed some toughness on defense. John Michael Liles is a poor excuse for a defenseman, let alone a #1 defenseman

  • February 26, 2008

    3:31 PM

    Tom writes:

    Right. For all you Avalanche fans that still have media guides from the 1996-97 season, you might want to bring those to home games starting this weekend. It'll make things a bit easier.
    That said, I am entirely surprised that Ray Bourque and Patrick Roy decided against coming out of retirement. And what of Tanguay and Drury? How come they didn't jump ship and demand a trade to Colorado?
    I find it amazing that Colorado gave up that much for Foote. He's 37 years old, not 27.
    All in all...not a good trading deadline for the Avs. They get a slow, old defenseman and a guy who has a glass ankle.
    Hmmm....

  • February 26, 2008

    7:51 PM

    Rick writes:

    I heard Roy is tanned, rested and ready to play. We could have an old timers game if Claude and Valerie are ready to go!

  • February 27, 2008

    5:35 PM

    Mike in Atlanta writes:

    This hurts to say, but I totally agree with Tom. Forsberg heads the very short list of professional athletes who go all in 100% of the time. Yes, he could author a text book for sports medicine but the man does not stop playing. Think about it this way, if you had to face the Avs in the playoffs would want an Avalanche team with Peter or without Peter. And Drew, I normally love your toons, but show some freaking respect. If Elway had come back a couple of years after he retired would you display the same insensetivity? We know you don't like hockey and I am sure you are pissed at having to waste your time drawing sports figures who are NOT criminals or cheaters, but give it up man ans show some respect to a player who helped bring the state it's first professional championship and exemplifies the term "work ethic". Healthy or not, watching Peter play is a gift.

  • April 2, 2008

    11:54 AM

    bubbabeers writes:

    Wow, those of you that doubted Peter Forsberg must really feel stupid now. He is still the single most talented player the league has seen in recent history - I saw him play against Edmonton and it is incredible to watch. He can just take over a game!!! You can just see the fans (and the other team) sit on the edge of thier seats when he gets the puck. I guess your cartoon makes you look kinda dumb now ehe Drew?? Oh well, you can't know everything about every sport - stick to baseball :)

  • April 7, 2008

    6:58 PM

    Ann writes:

    Ahahahaha EAT YOUR WORDS. Forsberg single handedly got us into the play offs, looks like they were lookin' for a cup ;)

    14 pts in NINE games... I'll take that. Shame on ANY of you for underestimating him. Where's the respect?

    Peter the GREAT ftw!

  • April 8, 2008

    7:32 PM

    wayne writes:

    Let me see now. I think Peter has only played NINE games and we dont need to say any more. Even if the guy only plays 50% of the time, look at how much the rest of the team's play is elevated! I would have to say that Mr tom and Mr jacob look like fools for even putting up thier posts.

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