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June 23, 2008 9:54 PM

Melo: The Promise Land

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Carmelo Anthony continues to make noise even when the Nuggets aren't playing which, of course, can be good for a sports cartoonist but not so good for the Nuggets front office. I'm not altogether sure if trading Melo wouldn't be in the best interests of the franchise but I'm pretty sure that talking about it isn't. I would think that George Karl would just like to spend his time off not having to deal with the Melo Mess, which was his biggest headache during the season.



Discussion

  • June 24, 2008

    12:34 AM

    Jacob writes:

    My knee jerk reaction is to get Carmelo out of here ASAP, but after watching Paul Pierce become the consummate team players and lead the Celtics to the NBA championship, it gives me hope for Melo. Granted Melo hasn't given us any reason to hope for him, but let's not forget that Pierce is the same guy who was ejected from game 6 of the Eastern conference semis with 10 seconds left and up by a basket not too long ago. Pierce was known as one of those guys who "didn't get it." Let's hope for the best and that Melo will actually understand that defense is a prerequisite to being an all-star instead of just getting vote in by the fans.

  • June 24, 2008

    8:15 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    Anthony is worthless. I mean, what a total and complete loser.

  • June 24, 2008

    9:14 AM

    Brian in Evans writes:

    "Hope for Melo"? He's been PAID WELL to perform. He has not lived up to his end of the deaL. Now he cries? TRADE HIM.

  • June 24, 2008

    9:21 AM

    jim in conifer writes:

    you are ALL crazy. if you trade Melo, you become the Sixers West --and we saw how well they did with AI. TRADE KARL -- get Avery Johnson, who actually teaches players and gets their respect. During the playoffs, not a single player was paying attention to their coach Karl, unlike on the Laker's bench. Get a coach who commands respect, and you can go deep into the playoffs, especially since they all just watched Boston's team dee work. And as for Melo not playing Dee -- Marcus missed the rotations throughout the playoffs, as did Eddie. Trade Melo -- and watch him get a championship with the Pistons while we flounder. Do we at least get Darko?

  • June 24, 2008

    9:33 AM

    Kyle writes:

    Melo is not the problem. The problem is and always has beem Karl. Look at the good teams around the league and you will see coaches fighting for their players. All you see with Karl is a guy sitting there not really paying attnention. He will never have the respect of his players, and a leader must demand respect. Karl looks as if he can't wait for the games to be over. It's time to get a new coach. We need someone who can go in there and shape the D and shape the mindset of the atheletes. You trade melo, the team falls apart. Notice that we did not make the playoffs for many years and then we drafted melo, and have not missed the playoffs. The problem is not Melo, or AI or any of the players. The talent is there. The leadership is not. We need a new General. One who is willing to fight for his players.

  • June 24, 2008

    10:00 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    Is anyone really surprised that he walked on his DUI?

    This country's legal system continues to cater to the rich and famous.

    Great example we're setting for the rest of the world. I believe if you're found driving drunk in Germany, as an example, you lose your freedom to drive permanently. Like, you can never drive again. Why? Because you put others at risk. The cops there don't really care if you drive yourself into a guardrail while drunk. It was your choice to be stupid. But if you put innocents at risk because of your stupidity, then you pay for it.
    I really hope that Carmelo crashes his Mercedes into a wall and injures himself so badly that he can never, ever play basketball again. He needs a very, very hard life lesson. I really see him being dead by age 30. He's hopeless.

  • June 24, 2008

    10:44 AM

    you are ridiculous. writes:

    "i really hope that Carmelo crashes his Mercedes into a wall and injures himself so badly that he can never, ever play basketball again. He needs a very, very hard life lesson. I really see him being dead by age 30. He's hopeless.
    "

    I really hope the same happens to you. Except the basketball part, because we all know you can't play. But i do hope horrible things happen to you because of what you just said.

  • June 24, 2008

    11:11 AM

    ummm writes:

    Melo 'walked' on his DUI because the DA and court usually lessen that charge to DWAI on a first offense. For anyone. I'm sure he'll still have to pay the $8,000 or so dollars in fines and court costs, and will (as the article on the case says) serve community service.

  • June 24, 2008

    11:18 AM

    Ian writes:

    To Jacob's comments regarding Paul Pierce. Don't bother with that comparison. The two are not and never have been similar. I've played pick-up ball with Pierce during college. Believe me, he is different. I never see Carmelo taking a team out of the 1st round of the playoffs. In his personal life, I don't see him making any changes either. He is continually in trouble with the law, and every time simply receives a slap on the wrist.

    And last of all - Nuggets need to unload these millionaires (Anthony, Martin, and Iverson) that will never get the job done.

  • June 24, 2008

    11:39 AM

    Penfold writes:

    Look up "Primadonna" and you'll see a photo of Carmelo Anthony with a smug, "The Cat That Ate The Cannary" look on his face.

    He knows he can do anything he wants with zero consequences. He can hog the ball. He can refuse to play defense. He can drive drunk. He can convice authorites that it was other people's pot in the backpack and car. He can (and this one is frankly amazing beyond belief) convince the poers that be that he is the kind of person that the fine citizens of the USA want representing their country at the upcoming Olympic games.

    He's like the basketball version of Jim Morrison. (This of course, is a serious insult to Jim, so my apologies.) Morrison thought he was invincible. He wanted to basically do whatever he wanted whenever he wanted for whatever reason he wished.
    Carmelo thinks everyone owes him something. He, however, feels that he owes nothing to anyone. I might expect this attitude from an eleven-year-old, but not from an adult. It's strikingly clear why Detroit passed on drafting Anthony. There are several teams that drafted after the Nuggets that are undoubtedly thanking their lucky stars that they didn't get stuck with this head case of a player.
    I'm a little shocked that there are still people defending this guy after all the crap he's brought on this franchise. He's dead weight and he's just dragging the Nuggets down.
    Cut him the **** loose already. He's cancer.

  • June 24, 2008

    12:21 PM

    realism writes:

    Yes Carmelo is a primmadonna, but dead weight...give me a bleeping break. He put this franchise on his back to get to the playoffs before having Iverson his 1st 3 years. Yes, he has made some terrible mistakes, and if you don't think this DUI charge will cost him..you are dead wrong. I am sure all his endorsement deal will fine him as well, and other companies won't be calling on him to pitch their products.

    I made a boatload of mistakes and errors at 25...yes he needs to get his head out of his backside and learn life lessons, but he is hardly the MAIN problem with the Nuggets. If the owner and front office would convey a little discipline, it might be a good start. I expect the owner and front office to have rules and regulations to abide by... they make it up as they go along and don't say anything to the public about anything...always no comment. Make Silent Stan and his 3 brown nosers be accountable and you will see things change.

  • June 24, 2008

    12:49 PM

    Jacob writes:

    You played pickup basketball with Paul Pierce therefore you know him?? What a joke dude, get over yourself, I guarantee you that Paul Pierce doesn't even know who you are.

  • June 24, 2008

    1:15 PM

    Ben Lilly writes:

    Until Carmelo Anthony, Kenyon Martin, Allen Iverson, Marcus Camby, Nene, and J.R. Smith are no longer part of the Nuggets, this franchise is going nowhere. There is no room for discussion on this matter. Cold, hard facts don't lie.

  • June 24, 2008

    2:22 PM

    Ron writes:

    I pray that the Nuggets stick to their guns and Anthony demands a trade. That will do two things. It will ruin Carmelo, because it will destroy any faith that remains with the homer Nugget fans, and he'll be booed not only in arenas on the road, but also in the Pepsi Center.
    But think about this...
    What GM out there wants to trade for Anthony? Probably none. He's a P.R. nightmare. He'd ruin any team he went to just as he has ruined the Nuggets. He's simply not worth what the Nuggets would demand in trade. They'll want first round picks and decent players. The Nuggets would be lucky for another team to offer a 2nd round selection.
    So, all I want is for Carmelo to demand a trade just so he can look even more like a tool.

  • June 24, 2008

    4:32 PM

    Al writes:

    Jacob you're a complete fraud.
    Paul Pierce was and still is in a class higher than Anthony will ever be both on and off the court.
    Thats been proven.
    He always got it when he played here in Boston. Ask the legendary Boston Celtics that watched him
    night in night out.

    Carmelo Anthony's a punk and if he pulled that crap in Boston-he'd be GONE!

    Jacob you're always putting these athletes on shrines they don't deserve. How many athletes fan clubs do belong too? FRAUD!

  • June 24, 2008

    5:32 PM

    Charlie writes:

    I like Paul Pierce, he's a good player. But he was the leader of the last placed team in the NBA last season. It wasn't until they picked up KG and others that team green turned it around. Carmelo's team has never missed the playoffs. Of course they don't stay very long in the playoffs, but his team has never finished in last place.

  • June 24, 2008

    6:07 PM

    Will writes:

    Couple of things:

    I think the Paul Pierce comparison is valid, or do you not remember him with all those bandages in the press conference whining about the refs and not owning up to his poor play? This is not a slam on Pierce--just a reminder that people change.

    Second, GM's are licking their chops right now for Melo hoping to get him at a low price. That's why they're floating rumors to their local newspapers hoping to stir up this issue.

    Bottom line: Despite being one of the most talented Nugs ever, Melo has some serious problems. However, people change, and I'm willing to see him for at least one more season.

  • June 24, 2008

    6:26 PM

    YoMama'sman writes:

    The people that want to trade Melo are truly and completely ignorant. He's a 24 yr. old 5yr. veteran. He's a top 5 scorer in the league. He's avg'd 24 1/2 points a game over his career. He had a career high 7 1/2 bounds a game last year. Your biggest problem with him is a DUI (dumb, but ordinary). If you're not getting 5-6 first round picks for him (we gave up 3 for Martin) then what's the point? My solution.......Camby straight up for Chauncey. They have their future point, and we have our (figures crossed) center of the future. We'd probably have to throw in some salary on the back end, but oh well.
    P.S.
    Melo is already better than Pierce ever was or will be, and bOSTON sucks. If you don't like that you're welcome to move back.

  • June 24, 2008

    9:36 PM

    Jacob writes:

    You're right, Paul Pierce has always been a consummate team player. Your best player should always be kicked out with 10 seconds to go in the most important game of the season. People can change. I'm not saying that Melo will, I'm just saying that Pierce was known as a cancer at one point too. Al apparently has no memory longer than a day. Get out of here you clown.

  • June 25, 2008

    9:24 AM

    Juice writes:

    You guys are hilarious hypocrite haters!

    Melo is the Best Player in a Nuggets uniform since Amazing Grace. He single handedly brought back to life the Nuggets franchise. I remember they use to GIVE tickets away for McNichols Arena. Now we have the Pepsi Center, and ALL STAR talent team. The only problem w/ this team is Karl. Front office won't pay any mind to it. He ISN'T a proven winner (losing record in playoffs), he ISN'T a leader (WHO, in his ENTIRE career of coaching EVER said he was a good leader?). You expect a kid that is raised in one of the worst ghettos in America to come out smelling like roses? Your crazy! I lived in Chicago and Denver IS NOWHERE NEAR as crazy as Chicago.

    I grew up and thanks to my mothers prayers I didn't end up like most of the people I grew up with. Most are either dead, in jail, drug addicts or drug dealers. I'm not asking for sympathy but not many of you understand what it's like and what you see on a daily basis. He made it out and yea he needs work but you don't wish death and other horrible things like some of the IDIOTS on here are mentioning.

    Get a life! and for those of you who don't show mercy, may the same be done to you...

  • June 25, 2008

    12:28 PM

    Al writes:

    Jacob-
    Paul Pierce was never a cancer in Boston.
    Never.
    Jacob needs to have his mommy take his rectal temperature. Unfortunately his head is in the way.

  • June 25, 2008

    12:47 PM

    Jacob writes:

    "This has been a Celtics playoff series like no other, and that is the understatement of the new millennium. We had enough crazy stuff go on in Games 1-5, what with the blowouts and the responses and road victories and all, but last night we entered a hoop twilight zone in a game that featured the single most unforgivable, untimely, stupid, and flat-out selfish on-court act in the history of the Celtics."

    This is from one of the great columnists of all time in Boston, Bob Ryan. This is about Paul Pierce and when he got ejected with 10 seconds left in game 6 against Indiana. You wanna tell me that that's not a man who wasn't a cancer? If his teammates hadn't saved his ass in OT during that game 6, the Celtics would have lost that series all because of Paul Pierce's on court selfishness. Sorry to dilute your argument with facts you dimwit Al. And if you don't believe me that Bob Ryan wrote that, here's the link to the article:
    http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2005/05/06/selfish_act_could_have_been_teams_technical_ko/

    Al, why don't you sit this one out and let the big boys talk.

  • June 25, 2008

    5:22 PM

    THE REELTRUTH writes:

    FIRST LET ME START BY SAYIN MELO IM YOUR TRUE FAN IVE BEEN WATCHING YOU SINCE COLLEG..MELO IS NOT THE PROBLEM HOW MANY OF YOU CAN SAY YOU EVEN WANTED AS MUCH AS EVEN TALKED,HEARD,WATCHED, OR EVEN NEW ONE PLAYER ON THE NUGGETS BEFORE MELO GOT THERE ESPECIALLY YOU PEOPLE TAHT LIVE IN DENVER THEY WERE NEVER THE TALK OF THE NBA.NOW YOU WANT RO TRADE THE ONE THAT SAVE THE TEAM.MELO IS NOT THE PROBLEM ITS GEORGE KARL HE IS NOT A REAL COACH HE TO LAID BACK YOU NEVER SEE HIM UP OF THE BENCH SHOW SOME EMOTION THE HOLE PLAYOFF HE DID NOTHING I HOPE HE READ THIS TO THE PNLY THING I HAVE TO SAY TO MELO IS HE NEEDS TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE. BUT KARL HAS TO GO TRY TO GET PHIL

  • June 25, 2008

    6:34 PM

    Jacob writes:

    dude, punctuation rocks. try it sometime

  • June 26, 2008

    8:58 AM

    jacob writes:

    also, i am a total douchebag

  • June 26, 2008

    12:31 PM

    kodijack writes:

    Fact 1) Basketball is a team game.

    Fact 2) Melo has led the Nuggets to the playoffs five years in a row.

    Fact 3) Melo does not play good defense.

    Fact 4) The Nuggets don't draft well.

    Fact 5) The Nuggest are way above the salary cap and everyone knows that.

    Conclusion: This is a superfluous discussion, there is no way that the Nuggets are going to even get 50% value for Melo on the open market. They are not going to get much for Martin or Camby either. To improve its got to be at the team level, the quality of team play, different players are not going to help, and could actually the chemistry.

  • June 27, 2008

    2:28 AM

    Domino writes:

    The Nuggets are not a team that should be torn apart. You do not do that to a fifty win team.

    We must be realistic. A fifty win team just does not barely get into the playoffs. A fifty win team normally gets home court in the playoffs and has an easy first round.

    The total dominance of the western conference will not hold. Chances are that there will not be eight western teams with fifty wins. Why should the Nuggets be the one to descend?

    Perhaps, an Olympic gold will change Melo and teach him some leadership skills and he will learn good habits from his teammates.

  • July 1, 2008

    5:10 PM

    bill tourjee writes:

    I don't understand the ball hog stuff; it's Iverson who dominates the ball for 20 seconds, then forces a shot. To me, he's the problem. The Nuggets need a point guard who involves other people. They are the worst team at moving without the ball, passing

  • July 3, 2008

    12:06 AM

    The Game writes:

    Pleeease!! give me a break!! have you forgotten that before Melo, the nuggets sucked big time??? they only won 17 games!! 17!! management and coaching is the problem here..every year there are players who are available that could really help the nuggets, but they sign all the other teams rejects (anthony carter?? please..he couldnt get playing time in any other team, but karl "loves" him...najera is a 10 minute guy with very limited skills, but karls loves him and lets him shoot the 3!!! pleeease!!) they traded andre miller and strangely all of a sudden he becomes one of the best pg of the league again and every team wants him..KARL is the problem!! I don't understand why people defend him so much...yes, he has won a lot of games, but he has also lost a lot of games...he is not a great bkb mind, not even a good one!! what is that crap about let them "free style" on offense?? no winning coach does that unless you have chris paul on your team!! (not even Jerry Sloan and he has deron williams!!) Karl does it because he has no idea about how to win in the nba today...the nuggets need a guy like jeff van gundy

  • October 3, 2008

    4:03 PM

    Shawn writes:

    Lol I just wanna say that while everyone is sitting back criticizing Melo's defense, Lebron is being called one of the best players in the NBA hands down when he doesn't even play great defense either. The Cavs play good defense as a team, so he can get a block or steal here and there, but he's also stronger than Melo. He can overpower the person he's holding. Melo's strong suit isn't defense, but based on how the Nuggets play D, who's teaching him? They obviously don't have anyone in the organization who can help him, but to want to trade him because he doesn't play defense is stupid.

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