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November 30, 2008 9:01 PM

The Broncos Shake and Bake

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Shakey,Shakey, Shake
Ever wonder what life might be lie inside a snow globe? Well, wonder no more Broncos fans. This season is without a doubt the goofiest, most inconsistent one I can ever remember. It's like watching Jekyll and Hyde. It's like a box of chocolates, you're never quite sure what you're going to get. It is , however, interesting. So there's that. But, gee, can't we get a little normality in it all.

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Discussion

  • November 30, 2008

    9:49 PM

    Chris W. writes:

    Isn't that the truth.

  • November 30, 2008

    10:24 PM

    Pete writes:

    If I laid a bet in Vegas that the Broncos would lose their remaining games, would my bet really be that far off? Probably not. Could anyone actually put up a real argument that that could really happen? Not a chance.
    Could the Broncos win out and take the Superbowl? You bet.
    Will they? Not a chance.

    They are more of a loser than a winner. Just the fac that they have Cutler at QB means that there will be a turnover at a critical juncture of the game. Memo to Shanahan - If you really want another shot at a Superbowl, get another quarterback who doesn't turn the ball over in the redzone.

    Cutler must GO!!!!

  • November 30, 2008

    10:26 PM

    Pete writes:

    If I laid a bet in Vegas that the Broncos would lose their remaining games, would my bet really be that far off? Probably not. Could anyone actually put up a real argument that that could really happen? Not a chance.
    Could the Broncos win out and take the Superbowl? You bet.
    Will they? Not a chance.

    They are more of a loser than a winner. Just the fac that they have Cutler at QB means that there will be a turnover at a critical juncture of the game. Memo to Shanahan - If you really want another shot at a Superbowl, get another quarterback who doesn't turn the ball over in the redzone.

    Cutler must GO!!!!

  • December 1, 2008

    3:19 AM

    joe writes:

    I thought cutler critics would be silenced by this past month (the raider debacle was a mess for all involved, and not an indication of the type of player he is). Clearly the critics will keep hating, and those of us with functioning brains will continue to enjoy watching him play.

    They won't win more than one (and one is unlikely) playoff game this year, but with a little work on the defense I'd say they're two years away from a super bowl contender.

    Oh and pete, I think the 7-5 record by definition makes them more of a winner than loser. Also I didn't see the turnover in the critical juncture against the browns or the falcons when he lead them to wins on the road, nor against the saints and bucs at home.

  • December 1, 2008

    3:30 AM

    joe writes:

    And as for the guaranteed turnover in the red zone 14 tds and 2 turnovers this year. (Elway 15 tds 0 turnovers)

    How about in close games? A QB rating of 99 in games decided by 7 points or less (Elway 95.7). 108 QB rating when the score is tied. (Elway 102)

    In the clutch? 95.2 Passer rating in the 4th quarter when the score is within 7. (Elway 75.2)

    I'm not saying he's as good or better than Elway (nor will I anytime soon) but wake up. The future is here.

    *Elway stats were taken from 1998 his most efficient statistical career. (If you compare with Elway's early career it isn't even close)

    Don't say Cutler had better resources, this is when Elway was playing with TD Smith Sharpe McCaffrey and the best o-line in the buisness.

  • December 1, 2008

    3:31 AM

    joe writes:

    And as for the guaranteed turnover in the red zone 14 tds and 2 turnovers this year. (Elway 15 tds 0 turnovers)

    How about in close games? A QB rating of 99 in games decided by 7 points or less (Elway 95.7). 108 QB rating when the score is tied. (Elway 102)

    In the clutch? 95.2 Passer rating in the 4th quarter when the score is within 7. (Elway 75.2)

    I'm not saying he's as good or better than Elway (nor will I anytime soon) but wake up. The future is here.

    *Elway stats were taken from 1998 his most efficient statistical career. (If you compare with Elway's early career it isn't even close)

    Don't say Cutler had better resources, this is when Elway was playing with TD Smith Sharpe McCaffrey and the best o-line in the buisness.

  • December 1, 2008

    3:46 AM

    joe writes:

    Sorry for spaming. but Td-int ratios

    Elway career 1.33-1
    Favre career 1.53-1
    Cutler career 1.56-1

    Again not saying he's on their level, but how can you say you want him benched?

  • December 1, 2008

    7:21 AM

    TulsaBroncoFan writes:

    Ah...Pete?
    Coming by to berate the Broncos again????I

    If I were to lay a bet in Vegas I would bet that
    YOU are gonna be here every single time the Broncos win or lose to share what your insight of "what is wrong with the Broncos"...

    I might even bet that you are perhaps:

    1. A disgruntled ex Bronco Player...

    2. A huge fan of the Raiders...Chiefs...or Chargers...

    3. (and BTW my favorite) Al Davis...

    Whatever your reasons for commenting on the Broncos are just remember.. that with all the
    injuries that the team has had, some new faces
    have emerged and some of them have showed a lot of talent and promise...lets say Hillis and
    Larsen...the Broncos have a promising future...
    and it is just possible that Jay Cutler may be
    the right QB for the job...

  • December 1, 2008

    8:16 AM

    Phil way down South writes:

    Ladies and gentlemen, the 2008 NFL Sybil award goes to the Denver Broncos. Yep, their schizophrenic play makes it impossible to figure out what's going to happen every week.

  • December 1, 2008

    5:49 PM

    Penfold writes:

    I think the sad thing with the NFL is that the Broncos could actually lose every remaining game, end up 7-9, win the division, and still make the playoffs ahead of teams with winning records.

    That's just a travesty if that ends up occurring. I mean, even if your a diehard Bronco fan, that's just wrong. The NFL does need to change the way the playoffs are set up. I mean, fine...if you win your division, you win your division. Great. You're a division winner. But that should not automatically give you a playoff spot.

    I can tell you that every person that I know that's a Bronco fan doesn't feel that the Broncos should be even sniffing the playoffs. It's one thing if you've earned the right to be there, but this season, the Broncos definitely have not earned it. They'll be there, yes, but by default only. Just imagine if the Broncos played in the NFC East instead of the NFC West.

  • December 1, 2008

    5:52 PM

    Penfold writes:

    I meant AFC West, of course. This blog needs to have edit buttons. Oops.

  • December 1, 2008

    7:41 PM

    Rickety Cricket writes:

    Pete writes:
    "Memo to Shanahan - If you really want another shot at a Superbowl, get another quarterback who doesn't turn the ball over in the redzone.

    Cutler must GO!!!!"


    REALLY!???? Who are you going to get!? Cutler is inconsistent to be sure, but this is the NFL, look around the league genius, inconsistency and turnovers are part of the DNA of EVERY QB in the league. You have to minimize those TO's, run the ball well and play good D, I have my gripes with Cutler's leadership and demeanor, but please don't be idiotic, he has proven he is in the top 1/2 of QB's in this league at the least.

    On another note; will the real Denver Broncos please stand up? How do they look so good yesterday and blow chunks against the pathetic Raiders and Chiefs? God only knows what we're going to get in the playoffs, right now we would be facing the Colts, and regardless of how they've played this year, Dungy and Peyton have their rings.....and the Broncos playbook seemingly.

    These guys need to grow up, show some poise and leadership down the stretch, and above all beat the teams they are supposed to beat.

  • December 2, 2008

    8:05 AM

    Thrawn writes:

    Okay,

    So we dump Cutler... ... and replace him with, who exactly?

    Sure, there are better QB's in the league, none of which are available.

    I take it the critics would prefer Culpepper?

  • December 2, 2008

    11:40 AM

    HomerJ writes:

    We should be very happy with Cutler, look at the two "stars" drafted before him, they're getting splinters in their butts right now. How many times early on did Elway make silly mistakes? At least Cutler lines up behind the center every time :-)

  • December 2, 2008

    5:50 PM

    Evan writes:

    The real problem here is that we all, as Bronco fans, thought that Cutler was going to just tear up the NFL. Well, we were wrong to assume such a thing. He is a good quarterback, which is to say - he's an average NFL quarterback. He's not a bad quarterback. He's just average.
    Could he get better? Well, maybe. Anything is possible.
    The thing is that real true pro-bowl level, championship quarterbacks are not leveling off during their third year in the NFL. Cutler has leveled off at best. In my opinion, he's very possibly taken a step back this year. His reads on the field are just awful sometimes. It's like he just does not think things over, and of most QB's in the NFL this year, he's had more than ample time to read the field in fromt of him. With that much time to look around, he should make good reads. He just doesn't.
    The same thing is happening in Washington to Jason Campbell. He's exactly where Cutler is. He's at a crossroads. Both he and Cutler among others have this season and maybe one more to prove themselves to be capable to truly leading their teams to the playoffs and then some. That means a season and a third, folks. If you haven't proved worthy in 4 seasons, you've hit a wall and an organization just cannot wait around for you to become "the guy." After that point, you become Brian Griese. You'll probably have a job as a backup and get into the odd game or two. You'll collect an easy paycheck in the NFL, but your chance at being "the guy" is gone forever.
    Cutler still has an opportunity, but as a Bronco fan, I just am not willing to wait on Cutler too much longer to get his head together.

  • December 3, 2008

    10:12 AM

    dude writes:

    OK everyone together now, JUMP ON CUTLER!

    If you look at the "greats" QB's throughout the history of the NFL few of them (Marino, Rothlisburger and Brady) were great QB's right out of the gate. I know that Cutler has been around for three years and it is time for a little more leadership from the kid but....
    1. No running game severely hampers a QB's ability to make amart choices.
    2. No defense, means you have to score big to win, which is not easy to do in the NFL, and
    3. Without a group of recievers that can consistantly catch the ball it gets harder to make good on winning.
    4. When a team has to dig in to the reserves of the players cut in the preseason to play as starter due to injury...well what do you expect?

    I am trying to defend Cutler, he has made some really dumb mistakes, but he is not the only problem. Hillis is a great addition, Stokley looks good but without more help the Broncos are doomed to fail in the playoffs. Yes, they will go, hurray for us but being honest if THE ENTIRE TEAM does not wake and play with their heads out of their butts we will continue the roller coaster.

  • December 4, 2008

    3:52 AM

    Dwayne writes:

    Cutler must go?...Cuts' the reason the Broncos have the wins they have. Dude turn a TV on and watch a Broncos game for once, and pay attention to the defense, then come back and tell us who exactly should go.

  • December 4, 2008

    8:41 AM

    dude writes:

    Hey Dwayne, do you know scarcasim??

    The defense has been good, on occasion, but for the most part it has been on the shoulders of Cutler to make the team. There are 22 starters and NO ONE should expect that 1 of them is the reason the team does well or poorly.

    Cutler is fine and given a another year I think we could be very happy with the kid. The defense on the other hand has needed work for years and more importantly a good leader on the field. Look at the team that have top ranked defenses and you can find one (or insome cases two) good leader who keeps the team up and moving. And for those of you whom espouse the qualities if Champ I would hold his leadership against Rod Smith. Rod got hurt and was still the biggest motivation and cheerleader for the team from the sidelines. When he was on the field you could see the whole group feeding on his energy and enthusiasim.

  • December 4, 2008

    8:48 AM

    dude writes:

    Oh and one more thing Dwayne.... I watched the Raiders walk, crawl, run and embaress the Broncos defense one week and them the same team make some AWESOME goal line stands against a far better Jets team the next. As all of the "Experts" put it... "You cannot tell which Broncos team will play from week to week".

    It is simple, the Broncos are in complete control of their playoff berth. Win 2 games and they are in, no question. With a skitzo defense in the mix who are they going to beat? KC (God I hope so), SD (wouldn't that be nice), Carolina (good team, VERY tough to beat) or the Bills (another tough team). They got it but it would be nice to figure out what they are doing before bowing out in the first round of the playoffs.

  • December 7, 2008

    1:32 PM

    Dwayne writes:

    "Dude" - sorry, didn't realize you thought I meant you...I was using "dude" in general terms for jackass Pete at the top. Sorry if you thought I meant you.

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