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February 9, 2009 10:23 PM

A-Rod and the plague of Baseball

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When will it ever End?
The great steroids scandal of 2009, not to confused with the great steroids scandals of 2008 and 2007 is upon us. Just in time for spring training. One wonders when and if we will ever just talk "baseball" in the spring instead of scandal after scandal. It certainly seems we're stuck in this endless cycle of names being leaked and more evidence discovered of steroid abuse run rampant. Here's the question of the day...Should they or should they not disclose the rest of the names that tested positive right next to A-Rod? I want to know what you think. Would that end the whole thing so we can get back to the way it used to be? Would it clear those who are innocent, yet are now covered in this huge cloud of doubt? Blog away folks.



Discussion

  • February 9, 2009

    11:05 PM

    Martin writes:

    Naming the names of the players on the list in 2003 would do nothing. The players knew the testing was coming so some of them who were doing it might have stopped in time. And besides just because a player wasn't on the list in 2003 doesn't mean he wasn't going steroids or HGH in 2002, 2001, 2000, etc. Just admit that most of the players were doing it and no one did anything to stop them and move on. It's in the past, leave it there at this point.

  • February 10, 2009

    2:11 AM

    dbuttles writes:

    you have to be kidding right?? Baseball has been a joke since before McGuire and Bonds and this solidifies it...It is truly a shame and makes me wonder about all the heroes of my era...I am 46.

  • February 10, 2009

    7:35 AM

    eric jennings writes:

    Drew,

    Excellent cartoon today about the the steroids. I have come to the conclusion that this era of baseball players has been tainted by the revelations. Although I'm unhappy with A-Rod for taking the stuff, at least he came out and admitted it publicly. Americans have a tendency to respect people who admit they made a mistake and will learn from it. I don't know how baseball is going to handle the Hall of Fame selections in light of the steroid era.

  • February 10, 2009

    9:05 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    Hank Aaron is the Major League Baseball All-Time Home Run record holder.

    Roger Maris is the Major League Baseball All-Time Single Season Home Run record holder.

    Bonds, Rodriguez, Clemens, Giambi, etc. are all frauds and should be banned from the game, and all of their statistics tossed out. It should appear as if they never played the game.

    This can no longer be debated.

    End of story.

  • February 10, 2009

    11:11 AM

    rx writes:

    Why is this only a big deal (to everyone but me apparently) in baseball? Shawne Merriman got suspended for four games for steroids and almost won the defensive player of the year award in THAT SAME YEAR!!! So what if these guys do steroids? I watch sports to be entertained. All this banned from the game and statistics thrown out stuff is garbage. Cmon. I would rather they do steroids (a victimless crime, in essence) than drive drunk or beat their wives or kill dogs or whatever assorted awful stuff these guys are always getting caught doing.

  • February 10, 2009

    12:05 PM

    Thrawn writes:

    I think they should disclose all of the names of those that used steroids.

    ....if for no other reason than to get all of the names out there so that we can stop having these scandals pop up every year at one or two at a time.

    This is getting old and these leaks are surprising very few people these days.

  • February 10, 2009

    12:39 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    RX -

    You are a sad excuse for a human being.

    Try spending a little time researching steroid usage and what kind of damage steroids does to the human body.

    As for your atrocious comment about "victimless crimes"....How about all these high school and junior high school kids who think they'll never amount to anything unless they take steroids? What about them? I mean, they're being conditioned to believe that without steroids and HGH and that crap, that they have no chance of getting to the big time. The boyhood dream suddenly turns to a life of dependence on drugs.

    You may not like Bill Romanowski (and I don't either), but when you hear the guy talk about his incredible dependence on steroids during his pro career, it's downright scary.

    You, RX, need to study more before shooting off your stupid, idiotic mouth. I pray you do not have kids, and if you do, the local authorities need to remove them from your care. You have a dangerous mind.

  • February 10, 2009

    6:44 PM

    WorkingClassHero writes:

    I agree wholeheartedly with the Anonymous fellow who posted in response to Rx's post.

    Rx is a total idiot.

    Guess he's never heard of hero worship.

    There are thousands of kids out there who want to be just like Alex Rodriguez. We, as adults, can roll our eyes all we want, but the fact is that kids see Rodriguez hit the ball out of the park 47 times or whatever, and they want to do the same thing. Because Alex has now admitted to steroid use, and because there are people out there like Rx who don't care about the influence that steroids will have on these kids in their lifetime, then many of these kids will take the easy road of the needle or the pills.

    Rx, please leave this blog and leave it for good. Get lost. Take the train. Goodbye.

    You are a drain on society with your way of thinking. You are the problem. Yes, people like you Rx. You are the problem.

  • February 10, 2009

    6:59 PM

    rx writes:

    anon:

    first...sticks and stones bro.

    second...I do have children that think I'm a pretty darn good father, so your attack does not really hurt me. However, I would like to stick with this parent topic. Parent is not just a noun, but also a verb. Perhaps you've heard of parenting. It is the activity that parents engage in with their children throughout their lifetime in which you instill values, morals, and so forth which you (the parent) hold dear in the hopes that they will adopt said attributes. This is an activity that I (as the parent) choose to do myself. I don't leave it up to professional athletes to parent my children. They have their own problems (obviously). If my children became seriously involved in sports, I (you know, the parent) would talk to them about steroids and the associated dangers (kind of like I will about drugs, sex, religion, etc). Its all part of that "parenting" thing. I would also talk with them about how much more important to me it is that they are good, productive members of society than being good at some game. I would also talk about the low, low percentage of athletes who "get to the big time" and how much more important it is that they get a college education. I assume this is what all parents do for their children, but you are probably the kind of parent who makes their kid shoot 10,000 free throws a day in the pouring rain so you can live your pathetic, failed athletic career through your children.

    three...Just for the record, I am a health care professional with a doctorate level graduate degree. I haven't done a ton of research in anabolic steroids and their long term effects on the human body, but I'm guessing you haven't either. If you have any prospective, randomized, blinded, longitudinal studies published in peer-reviewed medical journals (the gold standard in medical research as I'm sure you know) then post the references and I'll look them up. But you won't. You'll just go on believing whatever you read on the internet (without even trying to substantiate any claims) and spewing your hate speech on anonymous message boards between porn viewings while eating a microwave TV dinner in your mom's basement.

    Later.

  • February 10, 2009

    7:08 PM

    rx writes:

    Working Class Hero(?):

    See above. You guys think name calling is the way to get your point across? Teach that to your kids. You can also teach them that no argument can be won or lost without a fist fight. And I'm the drain on society. Hilarious!

    Maybe if you're so worried about it you should go volunteer at the Boys and Girls Club. But do you? No, you don't. You don't want to actually DO anything about it. You just want to spit diatribes at anonymous people on the internet who don't agree with you. Get over yourself.

  • February 11, 2009

    8:21 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    I am a different "Anonymous" than posted above, but I'd like to ask Drew to ask Rx not to post here anymore. His comments about steroids not being a victimless crime is extremely shallow. My son got hooked on them because of his high school football coach in Virginia. The coach was supplying some of his players with them (he was later arrested for this and is facing prosecution). My son now has a number of medical problems that have been tied to their use, including cardiovascular issues. Rx is obviously insensitive to anyone who's lives may be affected by steroids. I am a good parent, but there was no way of me knowing that a trusted individual was ruining my son's life. It's people like Rx who think steroids isn't a problem that are the most dangerous people. People like Rx turn away from the issue. That's just unacceptable.

  • February 12, 2009

    7:28 AM

    ATLMike writes:

    I don't think that Rx meant, exactly, that steroid use is a 'victimless crime" in the true sense of the term. So I think there is some lexical confusion here. Anyhow, Rx, I believe you are good father and believe that you would heard your children away from such things. But as Anon #2 writes, kids, especially in sports, have other influential people in their lives (coaches,teachers etc.) who can really put some strain on making the 'right' decision.

    HGH can, and is used in the medical field to treat various diseases and conditions. But it should be noted that their use is carefully prescribed by a physician, not a coach, trainer or friend. Used improperly they can be devastating to an individual and those close to them. Here are a couple of papers I have found that are published in medical journals.

    http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/aug19/corrigan/corrigan.html

    http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/steroids.html

    And JAMA, which I don't have access to, has several articles relating steroid abuse to "Massive pulmonary embolus", which can be deadly.

  • February 12, 2009

    10:42 AM

    Thrawn writes:

    I think if people are still loooking to athletes to be role models, then they got issues. It's clear most athletes are out for themselves, but I think parents should pop that cigar out of their mouths and raise their own kids.

    Props to people like RX for teaching his own kids and not relying on some athlete, politician, or entertainer to deliver his or her message for them.

  • March 11, 2010

    7:46 AM

    flac to mp3 converter writes:

    That's truly amazing. I thought maybe it was religious in nature. It always amazes me how much time and effort you pour your time and effort into this decent post.

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