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Judith Lorraine of Denver writes:
We do not belong on foreign soil — in any aggresive manner! This is treasonous actions on these flim-flam leaders we have — they are raping and pillaging America! They are giving it away to Mexico. When was Bush elected president of Mexico? They are trashing our precious Constitution and Bill of Rights daily! with the internationalization of corporations — who is going to pay all these taxes for all these countries we are subsidizing? One world order — One world government — it is the killing of America!

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Huh?
We go where we have to go to protect ourselves.
Failure to do so would be like police not entering a specific city to confront crminals.
Terrorists are killing people and have been for years. They decided we were so weak willed and cowardly that we woul not retaliate. Bush may not be the best or the brightest and he sure as heck doesn't understand the concept of "let the soldiers do the fighting with the idea that victory is the goal and the only thing fair about war is when the other guy is killed instead of your guy."
Now we have a garden party war and only lately have the soldiers been allowed to do the job. I hope it works because the next attack, and there will be one no matter what we try to do to stop it, might come at a time when the leaders have shown that they are weak and cowardly and will not retaliate. It might come if we win. Where? How? I don't know. Best guess is some form of attack with hazardous material and semi trucks but that is only a guess from a former trucker.

People lkie you are probably good hearted and sincere but a terrorist will use that kindnesss to get close enough to kill you and as many more people as possible. Please re-think your position.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h3GPc_yMCE

Judith- What are you talking about? You say that we do not belong on foreign soil and in the next sentence you talk about the raping and pillaging of America. Then you ask, "When was Bush elected president of Mexico?"

Your letter makes no sense at all.

Mike - You're right, this letter doesn't make any sense. I wish the Rocky would raise the standards some to get a letter printed - or maybe their intention is to show just how stupid, silly, and nonsensical some people are. If that is the goal, they have achieved it.

I strongly disagree with Judith's isolationist position. It is a position that a number of people have taken in our history. She is entitled to voice that position. The idea that letters like hers should be banned is preposterous, particularly if you have had occasion to read the crap that regularly gets on the letters column. "Stupid, silly, and nonsensical" applies to a lot of letters; do Mike and Michael complain when those nonsensical letters voice a position similar to their own? Is it possible that Mike and Michael were influenced by the fact the Judith's desire to see America withdraw from foreign countries is contrary to their political views? Surely not.

Truth- My problem with the letter is that I don't know what in the world she is talking about.

"This is treasonous actions on these flim-flam leaders we have — they are raping and pillaging America! They are giving it away to Mexico. When was Bush elected president of Mexico?"

What does that mean? She is all over the place.

"This is treasonous actions on these flim-flam leaders we have..."

What?!?!?!

Are her views contrary to mine? I don't know, I can't decipher her rambling letter.

Well...Muslims shouldn't be flying our airliners into our buildings (which are on OUR soil) either.

I'd be happy to not have U.S. troops anywhere in the world as long as everyone else leaves us alone. Good lord lady...do you think we WANT to be in these hell holes?

Ramblin', Ramblin', Ramblin Keep those doggies movin, tho they're disaprovin'
I'd like whipped cream with those nuts please........

So all of you who trashed her letter are cool with "internationalization of corporations"?

Or do you maybe have some reservations about corporations owing no allegiance to the nation?

Does flimflam know he's been mentioned in this letter?

Bango- I "trashed" her letter because it looks like a 4 year old wrote it.

As far as corporations "owing allegiance to the nation"? What do you mean by that?

Mike,
I mean that an international corporation will obey laws – obviously, but doesn’t have any reason to value the national interests. All it wants to do is suck up money and resources and may use practices to do that which are harmful to the national interests. Outsourcing and Insourcing for example. A corporation will happily move jobs offshore if that improves profit margin, and just as happily fund political candidates who will relax laws or policies that allow it to bring in cheaper labor from outside.

This doesn’t make corporations “evil”, but it bears remembering that some of them have broken the ties that used to bind them to any specific country or community. They represent the interests of their shareholders only.

Bango- I don't believe that outsourcing and insourcing are bad. Outsourcing can make products and services cheaper for the American consumer- that's good. Insourcing (Toyota building cars here for example) brings jobs to America-that's good. I'm more concerned about the consumer than the worker.

"They represent the interests of their shareholders only."

Maybe not 'only', but the shareholders should be their first concern.

Dear Judith,

Stay off foreign drugs.

Your friend,
Colorado

Mike, I understand the Conservative position and you state it well.

There are two points I would want to make though
1- Insourcing is when the company opens up a cheaper work location itself: could be Mexico, could be just another town. It is also when cheaper workers are brought in, like from Mexico, or just another town.
2- If workers have no security because of in- and out- sourcing, then wages drop and those same consumers have less money to spend.

Of course when wages have been depressed enough and worker solidarity broken enough then, yippee, some nice low-paying jobs will flow here from wherever is a bit more expensive and being outsourced from. It’s a race to the bottom with the corporation and its shareholder the only winners.

If money tops priorities then patriotism isn’t just second, but nowhere. There is no budget element for “patriotism”.

Knowing how money buys political attention, and campaign contributions equal sympathetic legislation, corporations can outbid you or me for our representative’s attention, and laws they prefer will get passed. Such as amnesty or sanctuary or “catch n release” policies.
If the consumer buys by price and doesn’t favor local goods, then eventually the market removes the option and at some point buying cheapest is the only option because that’s all we can afford and local production is gone.

There is nothing evil in the intent of the management involved, it’s just how the system works.

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