A declaration of war
The U.S. Senate’s immigration bill is a declaration of war on America and all American workers by the political and financial elites and by the race-identity invaders. It would put an end to America as we know it. I urge all American soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq to desert the field and return home to fight the real enemies of America.
Mike McGarry, Aspen
This thing is about to get ugly.
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Posted by on May 21, 2007 05:26 AM"I urge all American soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq to desert the field and return home to fight the real enemies of America" - Our Congress!
They declared war decades ago and have won many battles. They already depress wages by outsourcing American jobs to the cheaper labor pools in third world countries. Now they want third world wages in America as well.
Posted by DS on May 21, 2007 05:31 AMHey wait congress gets an automatic pay raise every year unless someone brings up a bill to stop it for that year. Oops they never would do that.
tis a sad day
We can win this one, if we stand together as US Citizens and call, fax, and email these Congressperson and Senators and tell them that this will not fly with us. We have already been lied to by Kennedy and others back in 1986, tell them we will not take in the butt again. You are right, this will be an act of war, a war between the hardworking Americans who wish to protect their way of life and the illegal aliens that are going to flood our country with all the 3rd world problems they can. You are right, we are in a fight for our lives. Pro-illegal activists do not realize that their lives won't be affected immediately only the hardworking middle class families will be dragged down to proverty level. I for one don't care if I am called a RACIST, I will not allow these people to drag me down to a 3rd world country and all its problems without a major fight.
Posted by Pam on May 21, 2007 06:52 AMPam,
I couild not agree more. Keep up the fight.
Posted by truthy on May 21, 2007 06:56 AMWell said. Now to find actions that will do the job. Seems that someone in Washington said that the phones, faxes and other communications are all at top levels since this was announced. Since the illegals are so greedy that they don't like even the minimal requirements in this plan there is time to make a difference but only if we DO something. Keep it legal, non-violent and loud. And don't give up just because the media will try to ignore you.
Posted by momma y on May 21, 2007 07:24 AMI'm in agreement with all of the above but am completely discouraged. I wrote my congressional representative Udall and recieved a prewritten "touchy feely" resposnse about how this is a humanitarian issue, not an illegal issue. They do not listen to the voters anymore - what are we to do? How do all of us (and there are a lot) get our message across to these representatives and Senators immediately so they don't pass this junk? Voters in this country are appathetic and will forget all about this next year so threatening votes is out. We need to do something now before it is too late to turn back. Suggestions anyone?
Posted by BB on May 21, 2007 07:33 AMWhat about militias? Are there any good militias in Colorado?
Posted by John II on May 21, 2007 08:22 AMJohn II
You are not the first person I have heard asking that question lately.
Posted by on May 21, 2007 08:28 AMMilitias are for morons. Bunch of old idiots who would piss themselves in a real battle.
Posted by Geen Beret on May 21, 2007 09:59 AMYou guys realize you'd be calling for Gitmo, torture and execution if it was anyone other than lunatics like yourselves calling for armed rebellion against the government of the United States, right?
You realize that's what you're DOING, right?
If I wasn't so sure you're a bunch of gutless whiners and this is just the crazy man's version of "take my ball and go home," I'd call the feds on you.
Posted by on May 21, 2007 10:22 AMI'm actually surprised RMN published this letter calling for federal troops to abandon a war and come home to fight the real enemy. This was a very gutsy letter to write.
Posted by John II on May 21, 2007 10:31 AMMADMEN. You people frighten me.
The U.S. is a country founded on the principle that all people have a right to flee from oppression and pursue happiness under the protection of a government that respects certain freedoms of individual expression, conduct, and privacy as the inalienable rights of all people, not just those born on American soil.
How many of you are working landscaping jobs or drive-thru windows or phone support or any other low-end service position? One of the tenets of capitalism is that competition is desirable. If you can't hack it and lost your job because someone from Mexico will gladly pick up other people's trash for a lower wage than you, GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND MAKE YOURSELF A VIABLE COMPETITOR. Man up and drop this xenophobic, red-necked bigotry.
There's a difference between guts and gall.
Posted by Jonathan Hamilton on May 21, 2007 10:37 AMWell for one, remember Green Beret, it was the militias that won the freedom for this country in the first place and a soldier is taught that, especially spec ops. and as for Gitmo and all, nice when a person doesnt even have the courage to put a name or pseudoname in the letter. And finally, RMN can print these letters for at l;east for a little while the 1st amendment still stands, at least until people feel that you hurt their feelings then will you loose your right, ie talking against illegals and thos in office who support them. Ken Salazars people will throw you out and call the police if you attempt to talk about that situation. I know I had it happen to me and a few others.
Posted by Nick on May 21, 2007 10:38 AMMADMEN. You people frighten me.
The U.S. is a country founded on the principle that all people have a right to flee from oppression and pursue happiness under the protection of a government that respects certain freedoms of individual expression, conduct, and privacy as the inalienable rights of all people, not just those born on American soil.
How many of you are working landscaping jobs or drive-thru windows or phone support or any other low-end service position? One of the tenets of capitalism is that competition is desirable. If you can't hack it and lost your job because someone from Mexico will gladly pick up other people's trash for a lower wage than you, GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND MAKE YOURSELF A VIABLE COMPETITOR. Man up and drop this xenophobic, red-necked bigotry.
There's a difference between guts and gall.
Posted by Jonathan Hamilton on May 21, 2007 10:39 AMThe Bible tells me that god created a daughter for Adam and he took her for his wife and in a geologic blink a Jew from the "loins of David" transmogrified into a Christian god destined for assisted suicide with the help of Romans and Jews came on the scene.
The media tells me that America seeks assisted suicide with the help of Republicrats, America's two-party system.
I read/hear that mostly Mexican criminals in their own country are fording the river and jumping the fence and 27,000, perhaps 10%, of them are in federal prison.
A rewind to the Reagan era: Isn't he the guy who started this amnesty business assuring America the problem of illegal immigration had been solved?
Don't argue: Eve came from Adam's rib and that is his own flesh and blood whom he married; however, tell me America is not seeking assisted suicide. Me, your friendly deicide.
Posted by Richard Grimes Risen Ape r22037@yahoo.com (ffrf.org) on May 21, 2007 10:47 AMWe have laws Mr. Hamilton. Are you suggesting that immigrants should not obey our immigration laws? Are you actually calling on Mexicans to flood through our borders and disobey our laws? That sounds treasonous to me.
Posted by John II on May 21, 2007 10:47 AMThe law should never be an obstacle to freedom. If that sounds treasonous to you, maybe you should write a letter to the President suggesting that he bring our soldiers in Iraq back home to take me out.
Posted by Jonathan Hamilton on May 21, 2007 10:50 AM"The law should never be an obstacle to freedom.
Can you expand on that comment? Are you suggesting that immigration laws should be abolished?
Posted by John II on May 21, 2007 10:59 AMYou must have poor reading comprehension, because I don't think "the law should never be an obstacle to freedom" means the same thing as "immigration laws should be abolished."
What you can infer from my statement, though, is that immigration law should allow us to effectively document, naturalize, and tax immigrants as fairly as any other citizen, and it should never prevent, say, a Venezuelan national from escaping a country ruled by a creep like Chavez.
If you take issue with that philosophy, then I have to wonder whether your militias would abide by stricter gun control laws....
Posted by Jonathan Hamilton on May 21, 2007 11:04 AM
Are you claiming that we should accept millions of Mexicans as a form of providing asylum? We're not talking about a Venezuelan national escaping his country; we're talking about millions of Mexicans streaming into our country and disregarding our documenting, naturalization, and tax laws.
"The U.S. Senate’s immigration bill is a declaration of war on America and all American workers by the political and financial elites and by the race-identity invaders"
Mr. McGarry can poop his pants if he likes (or maybe he just wants you to poop your pants), but I'm not afraid of ghosts. Isn't that a lesson we all learned as children?
Again, the anti-Mexican brigade wants Congress to do nothing. Oh, they'll shout bromides about enforcing da law, but when it comes down to actually doing something that people will agree on, they are opposed. Hmm. I wonder why?
Posted by anderson on May 21, 2007 11:12 AM..."I think they are more of a tool for the government than against it."
Then as a giant tool yourself, Johnny Boy, you'd fit right in.
Posted by FYK on May 21, 2007 11:13 AM[not any of them]
Ok..... J. Hamilton which one are you?
Anderson? Truth? Charles B? Old Grouch? HMMM.....could be one of the other bleeding hearts in their group.
BTW whats so alarming about civil strife to you J. Hamilton don't you love this country anymore??
Wouldn't you stand up for this country if it was being invaded by foreigners bent on our destruction??
Mexico is tenth on the list of richest countries in the world! And getting richer daily from the Mexican puppets they encourage to enter our country unlawfully.
What's up with this "oppression" you talk about?? If you are scared listen to the governors from the "sanctuary" states they are telling the government "up yours" when it comes to the laws being obeyed concerning illegals!! Now, THAT'S scary.
But John, immigration laws must be universally applicable to all immigrants. We can legislate against Mexicans or any other nationality specifically--that'd be discrimination.
You don't want to discriminate, do you, John? Is immigration really the issue here, or is it just the immigration of those darned wetbacks?
Again, with your poor reading comprehension in mind, please take a moment to re-read this statement:
"Immigration law should allow us to effectively document, naturalize, and tax immigrants as fairly as any other citizen."
Where in that statement do you see "immigration law should provide asylum to millions of Mexican citizens"?
Posted by Jonathan Hamilton on May 21, 2007 11:20 AMBecause, Mr. Hamilton, you seem to be suggesting that the millions of illegal Mexican immigrants are of the same status as a persecuted Venezuelan seeking political asylum in our country.
My reading comprehension is superb. But, I'm no mind-reader. State your position cogently so I don't have to guess as to what you're saying.
Posted by John II on May 21, 2007 11:26 AMMy position, which I think I've stated quite clearly, is that "the Senate's immigration bill is a declaration of war on America" is an alarming conceit.
I elaborated that immigration is actually desirable because it gives us more taxpayers and a more competitive work force, and with that in mind, the law should encourage legal immigration, not discourage illegal immigration. That's a losing battle.
What of that is so "bleeding heart," guys? How does an interest in collecting more tax revenue and creating a more competitive American work force make me an America-hater? SERIOUSLY NEED ANSWERS PLZ :( :( :(
Posted by Jonathan Hamilton on May 21, 2007 11:31 AMThe law should never be an obstacle to freedom. If that sounds treasonous to you, maybe you should write a letter to the President suggesting that he bring our soldiers in Iraq back home to take me out.
uh hamilton, just in case you did not know mexico is a free country, you unpatriotic piece of crap ,
Posted by hoimaha on May 21, 2007 11:48 AMSo Jonathon I assume you have done an ROI on this issue. I would love to see the numbers To clarify comparing the proposed tax revenue based upon costs to public.
How are the current immigration issue unfair to the Mexican National compared to other nationalities? 12+million illegals(greatest % from Mexico) Do we allow that % of Indians, Chinese, Korean, Darfur, etc? How many do we allow in? All that want in? Again give me an ROI on this.
To make an ROI work on this, would we not want highly skilled, technical immigrants, rather than low payed immigrants?
Posted by bwr on May 21, 2007 11:54 AMDid I say Mexico wasn't a free country? Nope. Just that people should have the freedom to move to our country without unjust discrimination. Does that make me unpatriotic? Because there's a nice old lady from France in New York who taught me that America welcomes the tired, the poor, the huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of all kinds of teeming shores, etc. etc. etc.
Posted by Jonathan Hamilton on May 21, 2007 11:56 AMI don't recall saying that immigration law unfairly discriminates, just that it shouldn't.
I don't know about any ROI, because you can't put a price tag on freedom!!1 Why shouldn't we allow anyone who can pass our tests to settle here?
As for highly skilled workers, the idea is that competition for unskilled jobs puts pressure on the individual to better himself. Doesn't that sound neat? It's totally boostrapping! It's so FDR!
Posted by Jonathan Hamilton on May 21, 2007 12:00 PMEven during the time you are representing had a limitation on the # of immigrants we allowed.
Please give me a # that is acceptable. Every freedom seeking person throughout the world?
Jonathan please go look up the Numbers video. Even if you only believe the argument 20% look at the numbers and that is only listing LEGAL immigrants.
Posted by bwr on May 21, 2007 12:01 PMJonathan your statement
"What of that is so "bleeding heart," guys? How does an interest in collecting more tax revenue and creating a more competitive American work force make me an America-hater? SERIOUSLY NEED ANSWERS PLZ :( :( :("
Your followup
"I don't know about any ROI, because you can't put a price tag on freedom!!1 Why shouldn't we allow anyone who can pass our tests to settle here?"
Ok from this statement I assume that it would be a negative ROI so why should the statement of more tax revenue make any sense other than to try and offset huge losses.
Discrimination issue. You stated
"But John, immigration laws must be universally applicable to all immigrants. We can legislate against Mexicans or any other nationality specifically--that'd be discrimination.
You don't want to discriminate, do you, John? Is immigration really the issue here, or is it just the immigration of those darned wetbacks?"
Mexican nationals are by far the highest violators of the current Immigration laws. From my point of view you are saying that all people against the current and proposed immigration laws to alllow for more strict immigration laws are discriminitory.
I may not get your full points and there is something in the middle you are proposing, but I dont think I or JohnII are the only ones missing your points
Posted by bwr on May 21, 2007 12:09 PMRead Mr. Hamilton's blog. He's just a comic book reading kid. Don't waste you time trying to reason with him.
Posted by John II on May 21, 2007 12:12 PMTrue John
Problem is there are plenty of non comic book reading adults that try the same arguments
Posted by bwr on May 21, 2007 12:16 PMWoe to think I'd see the day that a college-educated, 26-year-old registered voter would be dismissed as a "comic book-reading kid" who can't be reasoned with. :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
Posted by Jonathan Hamilton on May 21, 2007 12:26 PMMr Hamilton.
#1
Exactly what is it about controlling our borders
and enforcing immigration laws do you find
discriminatory? (11:56 post)
#2
Who exactly do you think
is being discriminated against?
Then you go on to say in your 12:00 post
that immigration law "shouldn't unfairly
discriminate".
So, bear with me, I'm blond.
Do you believe U.S. laws discriminate
against certain people, or don't you?
And if so, who are they?
Posted by RickyLee on May 21, 2007 12:34 PMIt's sad, isn't it, Mr. Hamilton. A college education ain't what it used to be. Let me guess, English Lit major?
Posted by John II on May 21, 2007 12:35 PMAND
your words "unfairly discriminates" are a bit
puzzling.
Could you please give us an example of "fair discrimination?
I believe that a 10 year moratorium on ALL immigration would benefit this nation more than any other so called solution being bandied about by the elected officials. But, can anyone tell me where the $5,000 for the so-called Z-visa would go? Can anyone tell me why 20-40 million illegals who have told us to "Stick our laws up our asses" should be given amnesty or preferential treatment over all those who have tried diligently to go through the accepted legal procedures to try to gain citizenship to our country? Can anyone tell me why teenagers, besides the plain lazy ones, can't get a job at fast food anymore? Oh, wait, maybe they need to accept the job at $2 per hour cash to be considered. One fact is that the world cannot be lifted up to the standard of living we have enjoyed in the USA in the past 50 years. So, what the globalists want to do, is drop our standard of living to that of any 3rd world nation. It could be Mexico, Indonesia, the Phillipeans, it doesn't really matter. Just be aware that the plan includes the vast majority of Americans dropping their standard of living to those of poverty stricken 3rd world nations. Are you willing to dive right into that? If so, go along with this amnesty, if not, speak up in the streets and make sure nobody shuts you up.
Posted by Jay on May 21, 2007 12:38 PMHate to rain on the rebellious parade, but grow up, and I mean that it a jaded, political sort of way.
Both parties serve the same master: what used to be 'corporate America' but now is best described as 'corporate International.' We are in an economic realignment that will bring down the wages of the current G8 countries and bring up the wages of the current emerging, or 2nd world, markets. Americans collectively, have elected leaders from both parties (Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton (signer of NAFTA), Bush Jr), who have signed-off on this trend, and so have only ourselves to blame.
The current illegal immigration issue facing America is just an unforeseen blip due to Mexico's mishandled economy, post-NAFTA. Had things gone as planned, sufficient numbers of America's manufacturing jobs would have moved south (instead of to Asia) to pull their boats up and lower ours so as to make it more attractive to stay locally rather than risk heading to Del Norte. That didn't work as planned, but will in the long run, so the current bill, or variations on it, is only meant to buy Mexico some time to more properly take America's higher-wage jobs. The effect will be the same, sadly...American employees will get paid relatively less, emerging market employees will get paid relatively more, until the current global income inequality within the 'middle class' flattens. American middle class will of course be the loser and emerging markets 'middle class' will experience what America did in the 1950s, at least briefly, until the same manufacturing jobs pull up their temporary stakes and head again to even cheaper labor pools.
The fact that so much passion is spent fighting on this blog over low-wage service jobs demonstrates how Americans' expectations have already adjusted downward for this less prosperous future.
One more ominous footnote, especially for all you calling for more violent measures, such as forming 'militias'...remember that bill we passed to 'protect us from terrorists?' The powers that so many self-described patriots granted our government to 'protect' us will easily thwart the smallest effort to reverse this trend. Remember, American democracy serves at the pleasure of capitalism, not the other way around.
Posted by on May 21, 2007 12:42 PMJay, I'm an American citizen, not to mention a veteran, and I'm telling you, you can stick all your provocative language up your ass, piker. If you don't want to be part of the solution, then get off the pot.
Posted by anderson on May 21, 2007 12:47 PMI don't think the Saudi princes and Hollywood stars with houses in Aspen really care if the people who swab their toilets have brown or white skin. It's sort of cute to see how excited you all to make such a difference in the world.
Posted by on May 21, 2007 12:50 PMGood advice T !
Posted by truthy on May 21, 2007 12:50 PMProfound statement Anderson
"If you don't want to be part of the solution, then get off the pot"
To use the original statement "sh&^%^ or get off the pot"
Your saying that if we dont want to be part of your solution get off the pot........just says your solution is sh&**
Posted by bwr on May 21, 2007 12:54 PMbwr above
Jay provided a solution. Incorporates all not excluding any group.
Posted by bwr on May 21, 2007 12:57 PMAnderson and Jonathan please just move to Mexico and leave America alone with your idiotic ideas. If you are so pro illegal, move to Mexico or all the other illegal alien countries and help them solve their own problems and give them a better life there, and leave my country alone
Posted by Pam on May 21, 2007 01:01 PM12:54,
That's funny. I was thinking the same thing. anderson got his slogan mixed up.
Oh well, if you can't beat'em, it's a penny earned...;)
Posted by John II on May 21, 2007 01:01 PMThis Andreson seems to need attention. May be he is lonely. We all need to feel improtant.
Posted by Tamara on May 21, 2007 01:06 PMTo the person who posted at 10:22-If you called the feds, would you make harsh accusations about people that are unqualified and so far off the mark you should be replacing Falwell? Also, would you continue to remain anonymous?
Posted by Jayko on May 21, 2007 01:17 PMAnderson, I would like to thank you for answering my questions. But, can you answer 1 more thing for me? Can you explain the term 'piker' for me. I haven't been called that before, I've been called pendejos and cajbrones by some illegals, but not piker.
12:42 pm is on the right track.
Good advice T !
Jay, according to my dictionary, a piker is one who does things in a contemptibly small or cheap way. Which is what a lot of your comments about this issue remind me of.
Posted by anderson on May 21, 2007 01:34 PMYou know 12:42, I was in the middle of laughing at your post until it all started to make sense. Big sense. Silent, scary sense. Now I'm just waiting for Keanu to appear and tell me he knows kung-fu, and then I will hurl myself thru a plate-glass window.
Posted by shaupeen on May 21, 2007 01:36 PMAnderson I have asked for dialogue with you and you have found every reason not to return in kind. Now that people are rebelling against your style of discussion, you now want dialogue.
Again I have tried this with you on multiple levels.
AND you have to admit pretty darn funny. I expect you would not have passed up such an opportunity at my expense.
It shows that conveying perspectives, views and opinions can be difficult at times. Meanings get lost in the forming of points on here.
Posted by bwr on May 21, 2007 01:46 PMWell Anderson, you better get used to it, because if the amnesty goes through, all we will eventually have is the financial abilities of 'pikers' for our pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness. Our wages will be described as 'less than a piker', our savings and checking accounts will be contemptibly small, and our belongings will be cheap pieces of dung. Is that what you want for your children and grandchildren? Whatever... lol
Posted by Jay on May 21, 2007 01:51 PMOne thing that almost never gets brought up in these blogs is why Mexicans and other Central Americans don't try to change their own governments, instead of invading the United States.
Mexico has some of the greatest natural resources on the North American continent, but also one of the most corrupt governments. If these people were truly interested in helping themselves, they would try to fix their own country instead overloading ours. I'm just getting a little tired of seeing and hearing Mexican patriotism in the United States: if you love Mexico so much do something to help your beloved country.
Oh, and before we get the pro-immigration crowd screaming that most illegal immigrants are too poor to effect change, most revolutions throughout history have been the poor rising up against their oppressors.
Posted by Welsh Dragon on May 21, 2007 02:32 PMGood post Welsh Dragon!! I have been reading these posts... except Anderson and his crowd of merry men I totally skip over them....... but, people are saying exactly what you are saying "go home and fix your own country"
and leave America in peace.
So just to clear things up... you would rather stage an armed insurrection against the government of the United States and plunge America into civil war... than pass a compromise immigration bill.
And here I thought you guys were just crazy...
Posted by on May 21, 2007 07:16 PMLast time the natives were this restless blaming the government for their perceived woes one of them blew up the Okla Federal Bldg.
Posted by on May 21, 2007 08:36 PMYou know 12:42, I was in the middle of laughing at your post until it all started to make sense. Big sense. Silent, scary sense. Now I'm just waiting for Keanu to appear and tell me he knows kung-fu, and then I will hurl myself thru a plate-glass window.
Mushrooms had the same up-and-down effect on me too -- one moment giggly, the next totally paranoid. Cable TV helps as you seem to have figured out, but in this case, once more, the revolution will not be televised.
Posted by on May 21, 2007 08:44 PM7:16
More and More Americans are getting upset and angry about illegal aliens, they are tired of reading of them coming here using forged documents or stolen identities to obtain housing, health care, education, welfare, food stamps, and Social Security. These services are being paid by hardworking American Citizens and they are getting resentful. Americans are getting tired of illegal aliens coming here and driving wages down the toilet so that no American can support his or her family, and just to clarify, I realize that the cheap labor is caused by greedy Corporations wanting to make that extra 1 million dollar bonus (they might starve on 325,000.00 per year salary and bonuses)but how did they come up with the idea of using cheap labor....Illegal aliens sneaking into the country and basically waving up a flag going use us, we will work for half of what hardworking Americans will cost you. Americans are getting tired of seeing illegal aliens wave thier countries flag (especially those who wave their countries flag above Americas or our flag up side down under theirs) and storm the streets demanding Americans to give them rights that past and future generations of men and women fighting in wars both foreign and domestic have kept safe for every American to enjoy and have pride in. So when you read posts stating that Congress is enacting war on this country, take heed, because if the amensty is past, I believe the reprecautions will be devasting.
Posted by Pam on May 22, 2007 06:57 AMIf your sick of the liars and the corruption in congress.Simple solution,vote republican.
Posted by bart on May 22, 2007 10:18 AMIf your sick of the liars and the corruption in congress.Simple solution,vote republican.
Posted by bart on May 22, 2007 10:18 AMIf your sick of the liars and the corruption in congress.Simple solution,vote republican.
Posted by bart on May 22, 2007 10:18 AMAbuse of this forum by Keith, e.g. vulgarity, simultaneously posting the same message five times and even innocuous words said mean spiritedly, and an uncivil tongue clicked unto the screen got him purged; keep it civil and clean, guys. Me, your friendly deicide.
Note: Click on "Post" one time. It will work. Like Sharon says: The box fills up.
Posted by Richard Grimes Risen Ape r22037@yahoo.com (ffrf.org) on May 22, 2007 11:31 AMLast time the natives were this restless blaming the government for their perceived woes one of them blew up the Okla Federal Bldg.
Posted by on May 21, 2007 08:36 PM
8:36pm, please read "The Third Terrorist" by Jayna Davis. It will make you think.
Posted by Jay on May 22, 2007 12:00 PM"Last time the natives were this restless blaming the government for their perceived woes one of them blew up the Okla Federal Bldg."
Last time those "perceived woes" were proven to be actual woes, the government killed 79 people including 21 children.
Posted by John II on May 22, 2007 12:18 PMAll you anti-immigrant xenophobes are a bunch of morons. You cry about spending tax dollars to provide health care and education but continue to vote for the republicans who waste billions of dollars in Iraq everyday. Sorry to dissapoint you, but no, the war in Iraq is not making you safer. You also whine about how all these people don't just get in line to come in legally. Learn the facts, unless you marry a US citizen or are some sort of CEO or scientist, it's IMPOSSIBLE. There is no line you morons.
All you anti-immigrant xenophobes are a bunch of morons. You cry about spending tax dollars to provide health care and education but continue to vote for the republicans who waste billions of dollars in Iraq everyday. Sorry to dissapoint you, but no, the war in Iraq is not making you safer. You also whine about how all these people don't just get in line to come in legally. Learn the facts, unless you marry a US citizen or are some sort of CEO or scientist, it's IMPOSSIBLE. There is no line you morons.
Even if you post it twice, it's still a dumb comment, yo mamma.
Posted by John II on May 22, 2007 12:41 PMDoes John II want people to join his called for militia so he can become the new David Koresh?
Posted by Diogenes on May 22, 2007 01:07 PM"Last time the natives were this restless blaming the government for their perceived woes one of them blew up the Okla Federal Bldg."
Last time those "perceived woes" were proven to be actual woes, the government killed 79 people including 21 children.
Posted by John II on May 22, 2007 12:18 PM
This is disgusting. Not only does this imply a justification for what McVeigh did (and by extension any terrorist does) but it reveals dangerous ignorance. Even for those who were rightly concerned about the unjustified tactics of the Feds in Waco, we have given this very same government so much more power to monitor and suppress the citizenry that it has ever had, while deriding any opposition as unpatriotic. God, if these kooks are the so called 'conservatives' left in this country, we are sunk.
Posted by on May 22, 2007 09:02 PM