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Irwin MacLeod of Colorado Springs writes:

No agency in the Federal Government could possibly administer the Senate’s new plan for comprehensive immigration. They know there is no Federal agency or group of agencies that could handle twelve to twenty million illegal immigrants. It would take a monstrous bureaucracy to register them. On top of registering them one would have to collect the fines and penalties in the new proposed amnesty bill. The bill gives millions of illegal immigrants a “Z” card, which is paramount to citizenship without the right to vote. To give these rights to illegal immigrants who come here in defiance of our laws is unthinkable. Agencies like homeland security cannot even handle the problems with Katrina. It has failed miserably at that so how can any agency of the Federal Government expect to administer it? This is one of the worse frauds to be perpetrated upon the American people. This proposed law has dozens and dozens of loopholes purposely put in there to make it almost impossible to administer. In 1986 they gave out about four million green cards claiming they were going to close the borders and stop illegal immigration. With the chain law in effect now it can bring in children and their parents, adding to over a million new people every year. And this law will fail, too, because illegal immigrants now know that they can keep coming and that every few years congress will make them legal again. There has been no money alloted for the enforcement on the border. They talk about putting eighteen thousand more border patrolmen on the border. This, they say, will take two years. With sixty to seventy thousand illegal immigrants crossing our border every month one could add another million immigrants to this country. This must be stopped and the Senate must be stopped from passing this amnesty bill.

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READER COMMENTS

It's amazing that the letter writer knows the proposed law contains dozens of loopholes purposely put there so that it cannot be administered. Sounds like a conspiracy to me.

Why don't you take the time to read it Anderson? Although I think your real name is Gonzalas.

Ignore Anderson, don't let him bait you !!!

The loopholes worked well in "86' and some of the same people who wrote that one wrote this one. It is not really a conspiracy, they are just down right lying to the general public.

There was a column written in the news that stated it better than I can, this is nothing more than "Bait and Switch"

No immigration bill can work without securing the borders first. Period!!

Well, ace, it's 382 pages. I guess I don't feel like reading through that much of a proposal that isn't even law. Even if I did, I probably wouldn't fully understand all its implications--which is why I question the asserted prescience of the letter writer. But, hey, if someone tells you something you want to hear, why question it, right?

And yes, don't ever respond to any of my arguments. If you didn't hear it on talk radio first, the argument simply isn't valid.

jgd, the proposal clearly contemplates securing the borders first. But I guess you can dismiss it altgother by saying it doesn't or that it somehow won't be enforced.

Anderson,
If you are so sure the border will be secured first, why do you fight the idea of delaying any actions regarding the Amnesty until it is done? No Z Visa for two years only registration and TEMPORYARY IDs. After a detailed background check, and paying a fine then we can determine which ones of them are good hardworking people and which ones of them are criminals.

One of two scenarios will unfold here. After they fail at securing the border, either the bill will be junked -or- congress will decide to eliminate the enforcement requirement in the bill so they can preceed with the amnesty, er, I mean Z visa's.

As I've pointed out before, we're dealing with people. There's no reason to keep people in limbo as to their status, or to continue this shadow existence where they are easily exploited. As I've also mentioned before, the proposal is a compromise. Your "secure borders before we do anything else" proposal is obviously not palatable to everyone. I'm reminded of Mick Jagger's words: "You can't always get what you want...but if you try sometime, you just might find, you get what you need".

Our border security is a "proposal" but the Amnesty (Z Visas) take effect immediately. As a compromise why don't we reverse that and say your Z Visas are a proposal and the border security take effect immediately.

They can have a TEMPORARY ID with the possiblily of a Z Visa in two years. Why should they be given a sure thing and the citizens of this country have to live in limbo. You know we are people too!

anderson is either: a) an illegal; or b) a businessman who makes money off the illegals.

Whatever, argumentless. I know that cognitive dissonance is tough to deal with. One thing's for sure, you know how to identify an enemy.

Boy-George is "toking" on his pipe again. No way the Dems are going to pass an amnesty bill, so the '08' GOP prez cadidate can take the creidt.

Irwin, well put. We all know (or most are learning) that this "plan" is a scam... again.

Here is the path out of the shadows for illegal aliens. It is called I-25. Take it south til you get to Juarez. An easy 10 hour road trip. Come back after you do your paperwork for the greencard.

JJvietnam,
Dems won't pass an amnesty ???

Votes FOR amnesty: Democrats:

Bayh (D-IN), Lugar , Harkin (D-IA), Cardin(D-MD), Mikulski (D-MD), Kennedy (D-MA) Kerry(D-MA), Levin (D-MI), Stabenow (D-MI)
Klobuchar (D-MN) Reid(D-NV), Lautenberg (D-NJ) Menendez(D-NJ) Bingaman(D-NM) Clinton(D-NY) Conrad(D-ND) Brown(D-OH) Wyden(D-OR) Casey(D-PA) Reed(D-RI) Whitehouse(D-RI) Leahy(D-VT) Webb (D-VA) Cantwell (D-WA) Murray(D-WA)

Republicans who voted FOR amnesty:

Lugar R-IN, Collins,R-ME, Snowe R ME,
Coleman R-MN, Lott R MS Hagel R NE,Ensign R-NV Gregg R-NH, Burr R NC, Voinovich,R-OH, Smith R- OR, SpecterR-PA Graham R-SC, Cornyn R-TX Hutchison R-TX,
Bennett R-UT, Warner R-VA.

And how could I forget Ken Salazar who also VOTED FOR AMNESTY!!

Politicians who voted AGAINST amnesty:

Sessions (R-AL) Shelby (R-AL) Pryor (D-AR)
ALLARD (R-CO) Crapo (R-ID) Grassley (R-IA), Roberts(R-KS) Bunning (R-KY) McConnell (R-KY) Landrieu (D-LA) Cochran (R-MS) Bond (R-MO) McCaskill (D-MO)Baucus (D-MT) Tester (D-MT) Nelson(D-NE)
Sununu (R-NH) Dole(R-NC) Dorgan(D-ND)
Coburn(R-OK) Inhofe (R-OK) DeMint (R-SC)
Thune(R-SD) Alexander(R-TN) Corker(R-TN) Byrd(D-WV) Rockefeller (D-WV), Enzi (R-WY)

Count the Rs count the Ds in both posts.

The vote was for or against the Vitter amendment that would have stripped the amnesty section from the S. 1348 bill. Both posts show who voted to keep amnesty and those who voted(against) to kill the amnesty.

Democrats who also voted for amnesty Lincoln - AR
Boxer - CA
Feinstein - CA
Dodd - CT
Biden - DE
Carper -DE
Nelson -FL
Akaka - HI
Inouye - HI
Durbin - IL
Obama - IL

Umm, Ben . . . I-25 ends in NEW Mexico (an American state, admitted into the Union of the United States of America in 1912), not at Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua State, Mexico. I-10 picks up at the end of I-25, in Las Cruces, NM, and goes east-west to either San Diego or New Orleans and beyond. I-25 starts and ends in the United States of America. But hey, don't let little pesky facts get in the way of any of you "people's" (read: wingnuts')exalted xenophobia. Like the fact that I-25 doesn't traverse oceans; as illegal immigrants come from Asia, Europe (and yes, some of those illegal immigrants are from Ireland and therefore already -gasp- speak English as a first language), Africa, Australia (hey, they speak English there too, huh? Well so much for the stupid assertion that all illegals speak Spanish. But, oh yeah, those little pesky facts), The Pacific Islands, etc, ad nauseaum. So all illegal immigrants need to go back to Juarez . . . WHY???? But then again, when it's that holy xenophobia we're engaging in, to hell with facts. It's all about misinformation, lies, fear, and emotional boil-over. Good job, wingnuts. Real proud of ya!!

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