Democrats & Republicans
Do you think the Ubercons in the Executive branch realize what they are turning over the Democrats in ‘08? Who do you think will have their phones warrentlessly wiretapped when Hilary or Obama have the mantle. If the GOP doesn’t declare victory and get out of Iraq in the next 18 months, all the new powers of the Patriot Act, the House, the Senate, the Presidency and the new 4th branch of the government, the Vice Presidency, will go decidedly blue. Have they considered the consequences?
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SAVE THE USA
IMPEACH ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS
AS TRAITORS TODAY!!!!
Posted by not here on July 13, 2007 03:37 PMChris Shonka ,letter writer, misses the point.The Democrats will win the next elections and the terrorists will take this as a sign of the US. being weak.The Democrats will pull out of Iraq and free the terrorists to attack our large cities which are populated largly with Democrats.When the Democrats get hit they will become the cowards they are and beg for mercy and offer their children as gifts to stop the attacks.The US population will become so discusted with the Democrats that they will vote them out of office for at least 50 years.All of us Democrats believe this will happen.
Posted by True on July 13, 2007 03:45 PMTrue:
Your ridiculous prognosis is no less accurate than all the neo-cons who've been consistently wrong about everything over the last six years.
You should get a spot on TV.
Posted by Charles B on July 13, 2007 04:12 PMThe real sadness lies with (D-VA) US Sen. Jim Webb, USNA grad and NAM USMC-hero. He is clearly the highest qualified, to hold the Oval Office. Too bad, the '08' prez election will again be about popularity, and not competence. Scary is the thought the GOP will win the office (mcCain excluded) and that means our military units, will be subjected to 20+ years of "leadership" by draft-dodgers, who themselves, haven't found anything they or their kids, are willing to die for. I proudly join US Rep. John Murtha (USMC NAM hero), "I wouldn't serve in today's armed forces with these guys and their draft-deferments".
Posted by 40acresandmymuleandvetbennies on July 13, 2007 04:21 PMWhen the Republicans were undercutting the Constitution and robbing us of our freedoms, they never though that a Democrat would inherit those powers.
You know what the Bible says about a man who troubles his own house, he will inherit the wind.
Bush is the troubler, not the decider.
Posted by on July 13, 2007 06:45 PMIf you're under 30yrs old and you're a Republican, you don't have a heart.
If you're over 30 and you're a Democrat,
you don't have a brain.
Thank you, thank you very much ladies and germs, I'm in town all this week at the Buell.
Posted by skeptical on July 13, 2007 06:55 PMskeptical,
Doing what? Part of the janitorial crew, most likely.
Posted by Old Grouch on July 13, 2007 07:33 PMskeptical :
Since I'm well over 30 and am neither, does that mean I have a heart and a brain??
Posted by CL on July 13, 2007 08:41 PMI find it so interesting conservatives constantly call liberls cowards because they want peace and diplomacy not war and destruction. I guess Jesus was the biggest coward of them all.
Posted by Michael D on July 13, 2007 08:43 PMOld Grouch,
True, but the trash at the Buell is quite sophisticated and it takes 2 semesters of study at C.U. to qualify.
Amen to that, Michael D. I have always wondered the same thing. We had so many greats that preached peace in the ways of Jesus Christ that we forget how to be like Him.
Posted by Cheryl on July 13, 2007 09:49 PMI guess I don't understand. Won't the democrats give up those powers because they hate them?? To use them after castgating them would seem ...what? hypocritical!
AF
Posted by on July 14, 2007 08:19 AMskeptical,
Ah! I see. Qualifying courses and apprenticeship for a try at that TV show, "Last Comic Standing", perhaps?
Best of luck in the venture. But that old saw of "ladies and germs" was getting the hook clear back in vaudeville days.
Somewhat like Rodney Dangerfield's rather overworked line about "getting no respect". For him, it was more or less a "trademark"; so, it lasted for years. But that opening line really does need a rest.
Again, best of luck in coming years.
Posted by Old Grouch on July 14, 2007 08:23 AMWhen are all the right wing zealots and the left wing zealots going to stop fighting each other and recognize neither are sole proprietors of the truth. It has always amazed me how far each will go in their habitual desire to place blame on the other for everything that has gone wrong, while taking credit for everything that goes right.
All politicians, regardless of political affiliation, are creatures of the same basic desire; to perpetuate the power and control of the positions they have achieved. For some, the problem is this priority holds more importance than any and all other purposes and, it is exactly that which makes them unacceptable as legitimate representatives of the people. Both republicans and democrates take part in this self serving, greedy game of deceiving not only the public but, themselves.
Only when people recognize that fair, just an unselfish public representation by our duly elected officials is vastly more important than what political party they belong to, will they be able to put away their pettiness and trivial assertions, and focus on the perpetuation of our country and the freedom, justice and liberty that are the fondational reasons for it's existence in the first place.
Posted by Allen Campbell on July 14, 2007 09:32 AMAllen
I agree wholeheartedly. Only a mentally blind person would toe any party lines these days. I have ceased claiming allegiance to any political party and I fear that getting any "unselfish public representation by our duly elected officials" is only a dream.
Many go into politics with that in mind, but the system seems to bring down the best intentions of good men and women. I will continue to vote for the best candidate running and pray for those we elect.
Old Grouch
Thank you for the (kind?) words. I knew you would be the one to recognize comic genius, however raw and/or plagerized it might be.
Some day all this usurped power will be ours, ours I tell you. Hypocrites? not when we have all Bush's powers.! (satire)
Posted by Sharon B. on July 14, 2007 11:12 AMSkeptical, glad to know intelligence is alive and well. I can't agree with your contention however that the system is the usurper of the best intentions. It is the weakness of the elected. A truly committed person can succeed if he/she can remain focused on representing the public. The only thing that can corrupt that focus is giving in to the baser instincts, which reside in all of us, like self severing interests, greed and the lust for power and control. I admit there seem to be too few who have the guts to not be romanced by special interests and line their own pockets with the money they pay for special favors that have little or nothing to do with the legitimate interest of the people.
Accountability and the requirement for wide open disclosure of all donations and their sources would go a long way toward preventing that corruption as well as prompting honest people to run for election. As it is now, politicians do not have to disclose those things, there is a undisclosed exemption on the forms they must submit and, as everyone should know, the rule that no legislator can accept money when they are in session, is considered a joke in the halls of the Colorado senate and house.
Posted by Allen Campbell on July 14, 2007 11:19 AMShow me a politician that leaves Washington D.C. after their term that is not substantially wealthier than when they arrived. Most are already wealthy when they begin.
The reality is that the way things work in that bizarre world of D.C. politics, to get anything done at all involves lieing down with dogs. Those that don't "play ball" get shunted aside by party politics and are left pretty much powerless. The system has many built in incentives for the newly arrived idealists to get with the program. If you don't, you become irrelevant and shunned.
Anybody who leaves there barely wealthier than when they arrived was not a "good politician" by definition of that culture.
The only way this culture can be changed is by wholesale change of the members of Congress. Vote out all the bums! Especially the old, entrenched fogeys in the Senate. Those crustaceans that have made political office a lifelong career. I'd love to see them all replaced.
Sadly, I don't see this happening in my lifetime.
Posted by RU Serious on July 14, 2007 02:04 PM
Thank God [we Democrats do not believe in him but use his name to make a point] Old Grouch has told the truth about the Democrat Party.We believe that janitors,auto mechanics,carpenters etc. or anybody that is not an elite like us should not be allowed to give their opinion.We teachers,government workers[as long as they belong to the union and are not low class working people] should make the decisions that run the country.
Posted by True on July 14, 2007 04:22 PMWhen you reach the level of power elites in the Republican and Democratic parties you are talking about different wings of the same bird -- they function in unison to support the monolithic body they are both attached to. Only at the lower levels are the party faithful (of either party) delusional enough to believe there is actually a difference between the two.
Posted by carl on July 14, 2007 11:42 PMCarl is right.Both parties are the same that is why we sit at home and do nothing.We support neither party that way we can be blamed for nothing.You idiots that join the Republican party to defend your gun rights and other freedoms are working too hard. We will sit at home and get the rewards.
Posted by Bozo on July 15, 2007 05:51 AMSo we all agree that both parties suck.
Nader '08?
Posted by Charles B on July 15, 2007 07:11 AMThe Republicans can't wait to turn over the current mess to the Democrats.
Then, the Republicans can go back to pointing fingers and avoiding blame for thier mistakes.
When is the last time that you heard the president, vice president or ANY member of the Republican party admit that they made a bad decision or mistake?
For being so faultless, they have certainly made a mess of things over the past six years.
Posted by Tree Hugger on July 16, 2007 08:42 AMTree Hugger - Are you still trying to blame the Republican controlled Congress for everything that goes wrong for the Dems?
When will they take responsibility for their own actions?
"Ba, ba, ba but the rep controlled congress did it."
(/sarcasm)
Posted by KW on July 16, 2007 10:09 AM