Iraq war
The Ruining of Iraq, by George Bush
His popularity has declined to the lowest of any President, including Carter and Nixon. Justifiably so.
According to CNN there has been over 655,000 Iraqis killed since the war began, more than the over 500,000 killed in Vietnam. There has been over 3,650 Americans killed. The last year American deaths have averaged over 3 per day.
Cal Thomas made several arguments why we shouldn’t impeach George Bush.
“What will the world think of us.†“We will appear as quitters. â€Al Qeada will surely attack Iraq at full force.†“It will be devastating.†I believe that is all nonsense. He is only saying this for political purposes, because he wants the Republicans to have a chance at the Presidency in 2008.
If we impeach George Bush and Dick Cheney the world will see that we have come to our senses and removed the main person who has turned America into a bully, an occupier, a failed leadership. Al Qeada may even believe we may now really began peace negotiations. As long as we keep George Bush in power and heaven forbid, another Republican President, Al Qeada will continue their attacks.
We need to pull our armies into Kuwait. Leave them totally alone. Hold our troops there to see what happens. Monitor all activities from reliable sources. Then if we must, send air strikes, rocket strikes from Kuwait. Make them come to us.
Can anyone out there thing of a better solution?
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Yeah!!!! Make them come to us, where here in the continental united States? How about getting those idiots who call themselves Senators and Congressional represenatives to stop hamstringing the military and go after these terrorists where they live. As Col. David Hunt says, "Kill them where they sleep!" Hows that for a plan. Kill them there in thier beds instead of them coming here.
Posted by on July 14, 2007 03:36 PMLeonard, you are delusional. While not a big fan of Bush/Cheney, they will not and can not be impeached. Give it up.
Your Democrat heroes are doing AQ's work for them here in the U.S. and they love you guys. Bin Laden stated early on that they would break our will to resist and fight them - "America has no heart." Your heroes are tripping all over themselves to prove him right and hand AQ a propaganda victory.
You are right that Bush and his immigration cronies are wrong on that issue.
Did you realize that since the Iraq war began that over twice the number of U.S. citizens have died here at home than our troops killed in Iraq? All at the hands of illegal aliens either by violent crimes or in drunken driving accidents. Over 8,000. I wonder, where is the outrage on that issue?
Our alienation of Iran, North Korea and Venezuela? You obviously don't read much. Iran really never has been our friend and that goes back decades, even before we helped install and prop up the Shah. North Korea? When were they friendly to us other than when they wanted a concession from us (oil, food, etc.)? Venezuela has been drifting further and further left ever since Chavez got control. He's another megalomaniac, ala Castro, Kim Sun Il and Amadinejad.
You really ought to get your information from a source other than Daily Kos or the Democratic Underground. Learn to differentiate fact from fiction.
Posted by RU Serious on July 14, 2007 07:55 PMHerr Bush has been very successful in proving he's a dunce; a puppet who dances according to how his corporate and special interest puppet masters pull his strings. However, there are no realistic grounds available to impeach him. Everything that he has done has been under the color of the constitution and/or prevailing laws.
If he had committed an impeachable offense, the Democratic controlled legislature wouldn't be putting on a big show of investigating his activities and howling about how "bad" he is -- they would be holding the impeachment trial. What you're witnessing with the Democrats is their side of the big political posturing game of "gotcha".
The ethics and morality of invading Iraq will be an ongoing debate for many years, well beyond the scope of occasional bloggers in abbreviated forums (though I in no way discourage the discussions). Besides the obvious political and party oriented discussions permeating the current public discussions serious students of ethics, morality and history will be dissecting cause and effects of the Iraqi war in intellectual caucuses for decades.
However, Leonard, you have demonstrated to me that you something in common with Bush. Neither of you know how a war should be executed once initiated. Bush's approach (and with the help of non-military advisers of very questionable motives and even more questionable war credentials) to micro-managing this war has resulted in tens of thousand of needless deaths, and the waste of billions upon billions of dollars. What you advocate in your letter would result in a grand escalation of the dead, and billions of dollars more flushed done the toilet.
No reasonable or sane person can be satisfied with the quagmire we're struggling with in Iraq. But we have to exit that situation without causing a vacuum of death for the people in the region behind us. And centralizing our forces anywhere in the region will leave them as sitting targets for attack (remember how the general in Pearl Harbor bunched the planes together for safety?).
This war in Iraq is not being fought as a real war. It's being fought like the fiasco in Vietnam -- a politically correct exercise in futility. And no, I'm not advocating a scorched earth type solution. I'm only advocating turning the military loose to fight an aggressive war with the objective of winning.
The sooner the war can be executed as such and end, the happier I'll be. I was in Vietnam on my fourth tour when my military "commitment" was ended during that clusterf++k. I have a son serving in the army as a combat medic who I would rather see as a civilian paramedic home and and out of harm's way.
Whining and crying about Iraq is not going to end the struggle. You can't walk into a group of bullies and knock out the leader of the pack and walk away without further ramifications to the people being bullied, and to your own group. After the blow is struck, the original provocation initiating action on the part of any of the participants is irrelevant. Now the objective is to find a way to end it with the least amount of lost lives possible.
And rest assured, you cannot offer an olive branch to religious fanatics of any genre regardless of wishful thinking. al-Queda and their ilk in these terrorist activities are not looking for a peace agreement. They are only looking to exterminate from the face of the earth anyone they identify as enemies (or apostates) of their particular interpretation of Islam.
Posted by darfor on July 14, 2007 09:28 PMvote leondard in as commander and cheif. he has all the answers for a perfect world.
Posted by on July 15, 2007 07:11 AMTry reading UK papers to find out what's really going on with the war. Everything printed in the US is just propaganda.
Here's an article in the Independent in London about how U.S. troops are more and more brutal to Iraqi civilians. The London Times wrote how British troop injuries are way up this year.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2758829.ece
Greta --
Don't base your opinions on how the entire US military is treating Iraqi civilians on an anti war British newspaper and "confessions" of 50 or so soldiers.
While some of the "confessions" are, I'm sure, quite honest, some are most likely made up. Even if you assume 10 times that amount are disregarding their oaths and obligations as soldiers and brutalizing civilians, it remains a very minute percentage of the military presence in Iraq. And I do not in anyway condone nor advocate brutality of civilians. It's just a fact of life when involved in such an endeavor.
Posted by carl on July 16, 2007 12:49 PM