PrideFest
This “lifestyle” in reality is anything but “gay,” as the practitioners of homosexuality voluntarily subject themselves to shorter life spans, greater alcohol and drug use, higher rates of “domestic” violence and exposure to an array of severe and often deadly sexually transmitted diseases.
Whether the responsible parties at the paper and the practitioners of homosexuality believe in God and His Word, the Bible, or not, all are subject to it, and so are in peril - “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness....” - Romans chapter 1, beginning at verse 18 and on to the end of the chapter, which addresses the end of all who defy God and practice immoral lifestyles.
Jesus says in John 3:16 - “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” God doesn’t wish that any should perish, but that all would turn to Him for salvation and a new life under His guidance. I pray that many will heed His call and turn from the destructive behavior of homosexuality itself and its promotion and encouragement.
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"Whether the responsible parties at the paper and the practitioners of homosexuality believe in God and His Word, the Bible, or not, all are subject to it, and so are in peril.."
Wow, its a good thing this isn't true...
Posted by Roy on July 3, 2007 02:22 PMBlow it out your fat bigoted butt, Medwyn. You're a fundie pig of the first order.
Posted by UYRMN on July 3, 2007 02:23 PMI can already see the usual liberal lineup having a ball with this one…come on let’s have it perverts.
Posted by Uno on July 3, 2007 02:24 PMUno,
when's the last time you got cornholed?
Posted by Ed on July 3, 2007 02:35 PMMedwyn is a well known gay name. Pervert!!
Posted by ibtz on July 3, 2007 02:36 PMYou poor man. When you find out that there is no supertnatural punishment meted out by a supernatural being, you will probably just explode.
Posted by Dona Dunsmore on July 3, 2007 02:36 PMTop member of NAMBLA UYRMN in his (or her, who the hell knows) infinite wisdom said “Blow it out your fat bigoted butt, Medwyn. You're a fundie pig of the first order.” – starting an assault on overweight probably white hetero Christian males. It’s OK UYR…, don’t be angry just because your dildo’s battery went dead, poor baby. Just switch to the cucumber like you normally do.
Posted by Uno on July 3, 2007 02:43 PMEd, that was…funny? And you typed all that with one hand, while your thumb searching for yesterday’s lunch? I’m impressed.
Posted by Uno on July 3, 2007 02:49 PMI thought the pictures were sweet.
Lesbians are gay, right? They don`t have all the problems mentioned.
for a moment there I thought he was talking about the evangelical community in the Bible belt. You know the domestic violence, alcohol use, divorce rates.
A well known gay name? Is that so? You can give a kid a "gay" name and make them homo.?
Like Marion (John) Wayne?
What a precious letter this is. What a mind behind it.
Posted by Sharon B. on July 3, 2007 03:07 PMUntil the gays in Pride Fest include the other diverse groups like people that want to have sex with animals,dead people and children they should be considered "BIGOTS".
Posted by True on July 3, 2007 03:35 PMMen true, men is what you are talking about. And the worst of all is the guy who wants sex with a dead baby bunny.
Posted by Sharon B. on July 3, 2007 03:47 PMAnyone wanting to inspect the cover this letter refers to can go to the Rocky homepage and scroll to the bottom to find the front page gallery. Click on that and then use a pulldown menu to choose June 25.
What you will see are images of people expressing their affection for one another. If the captions were removed, there would be no way to tell they were homosexual. Medwyn Sloane finds this to be an "outrage."
Personally, if I had to choose a news story of the last week to be outraged by, I'd choose the senseless murder of a young geology student by a man who never should have been paroled from prison (where he was serving time for an earlier murder). That's the kind of thing that outrages me, not a few gays getting their picture on page 1.
Posted by Karen on July 3, 2007 04:09 PMI am so happy I don't live in CO anymore. You hillbillys make me embarassed to say where I was born.
Posted by on July 3, 2007 04:31 PMUno,
Is Uno
a) your name?
b) Or your IQ and therefore all the higher you can count?
c) your penis size in inches
d) all of the above
Posted by Thomas on July 3, 2007 04:41 PMGod love men, they always resort to penis insults.
Posted by Sharon B. on July 3, 2007 04:43 PM"Until the gays in Pride Fest include the other diverse groups like people that want to have sex with animals,dead people and children they should be considered "BIGOTS".
Posted by True on July 3, 2007 03:35 PM"
They should also allow people without brains to join so True could be a member.
Posted by Truth on July 3, 2007 05:20 PMWow. Until I read Truth's response to True, I assumed the 3:35 post was Truth being sarcastic. I can't believe somebody actually thinks that. Where do these people live? I assume a good deal of them are from the Springs, but the town isn't big enough to contain all this crazy.
Posted by Grog on July 3, 2007 05:30 PMThomas, what a hurtful, belittling, derogatory, slanderous rude language. Is that what you learned in school? Or you just looking for a new partner and digging for information? I’ll say it again, I don’t date men (listening Charles? lol), when it comes to sex they hairy, sweaty, stinky (bad breath and all), repulsive, knowitall, offensive, beergutted classless filthy drunks, just like you Thomas. I like woman, they soft, pleasant, they make cute little squeaky sounds, and tiny little peach hair fuzz on their rump, even when they sweat it rolls down in adorable sweet little drops. And those plushy velvety soft…well you get the picture. And no, I don’t have experience with men, because when it comes to sex they would be hairy, sweaty, stinky……..
Posted by Uno on July 3, 2007 05:32 PMWell, let me make a correction to the above, it’s some woman who are soft, pleasant, they make cute little squeaky sounds, and tiny little peach hair fuzz on their rump, even when they sweat it rolls down in adorable sweet little drops. And those plushy velvety soft…don’t get exited. Than there are some woman who are hairy, sweaty, stinky (bad breath and all), repulsive, knowitall, offensive, beergutted classless filthy drunks, just like your wife, Thomas.
Posted by Uno on July 3, 2007 05:45 PMUno,
Let's take a look at this, because I think it's funny.
"I don’t have experience with men."
"when it comes to sex [men are] hairy, sweaty, stinky (bad breath and all), repulsive, knowitall, offensive, beergutted classless filthy drunks."
You've really left me with no option but to think you are talking about yourself here, as you have no experience with men.
Do you think this is what your girlfriend/wife/floozy goes through when she's pinned under your hairy, sweaty, stinky ass? Or do you know that it is?
Posted by Grog on July 3, 2007 05:54 PMNotice how Medwyn--that's a sweet name, BTW--repudiates the term "lifestyle" ("So-called 'lifestyle'," etc.) in regard to homosexuality. That's a new one: "lifestyle" is how homophobes disparagingly refer to homosexuality.
So in that, at least, Medwyn is absolutely correct. Homosexuality is not simply a "lifestyle" (like religion). It's a reality. It's a life.
Posted by Hans Christian Brando on July 3, 2007 06:22 PMAh, nothing like Christian love and humility.
I am sure Jesus would be so proud.
Groggy, for her it’s natural, thank God for that, otherwise none of us would ever get it. Just think about it Grogs, and look into the mirror, [do you see that balloon filled with crap and covered with hair, but not on your head, that’s you, Groggy…] , now sing that to the “Hey Mickey, you so funny, you don’t understand” tune in the bracket.
Posted by Uno on July 3, 2007 07:07 PMBango, considering the stats on homosexuality, one of the disciples was probably gay.
Since nearly all the men in Sodom and Gomorrah were gay, and men in Biblical times were finding gays under every rock, looks like we are lucky to be here.
Odd, isn`t it how we secular progressives (gag) are so loving and humble and accepting. And we do it all alone, without a Man/God at our side.
Posted by Sharon B. on July 3, 2007 07:13 PMLesbian Thumper Alert!
Posted by Charles B on July 3, 2007 08:07 PMUno,
I've tried to tell you that you protest too much but you keep going on and on.
Did it occur to you that people who don't think badly of homosexuals or their "lifestyle" could care less if you call us gay or insinuate that we are?
Posted by Charles B on July 3, 2007 08:14 PMCharles, did it occur to you that I’m doing alot of this for fun, I’m laughing my head off at such tightass tightlipped schoolprincipal-like personalities like most of you, who lost your sense of humor at birth? You’ll know when I get serious. Did you also notice that I do not draw first blood, but if you get personal with me, than I’ll give it right back mercilessly? Did it also occur to you, and I gave enough clues, that I don’t really give rat’s ass about your lifestyle or your friends, but if a group of people like gays have a considerable impact on health care, just because your friends can’t keep their pecker out of each other’s butts, than either start paying for it out of your own pockets, or pay more taxes, or you gonna have to put up with guys like me, and I’m not going away. And the same goes to your druginfested wife-swapping friends too, I don’t discriminate. And here is the big one, don’t forget that, until my children grow up and make their own decisions, stay away from them because that’s something I’m not joking with. Children are off limits, I don’t care who you are, I don’t despise anything more that pedophiles, and if any of you causes my kids harm, then there is no power on earth or law to protect you, just remember that.
Posted by on July 3, 2007 09:47 PMThat was me above.
Posted by Uno on July 3, 2007 09:54 PMMedwyn, I love you.
Posted by Jesus on July 4, 2007 04:27 AMUno,
Having fun or not, linking homosexuality automatically with pedophilia, as you do, is indicative of your own prejudices - and lack of knowledge - on the subject. Also, the incidence of heterosexual HIV/AIDS is, far and away, larger than that in the homosexaul population. It is a disease that does not respect sexual preferences; and it is not exclusive to sexual orientation. You might want to look into the history of the Ryan White Foundation on that subject.
Posted by Old Grouch on July 4, 2007 08:08 AMYou can link homosexuality with pedophilia they are both perverts.Also if the person is a male having sex with a underage male they are homos.The people defending the homos will not defend other perverts.Why not? It is because the other groups do not contribute large amounts of money to the Democrat party.When the groups that have sex with animals,dead people and children start giving large amounts of money to the Democrats you will hear the liberals on this comment page defending them.You will read comments like this" the person is dead what do they care" or "Who is to say I cannot love my animal in everyway" or "A three year old is just a small person why not make love to them". The Democrats have sunk so low that they will crawl into bed with perverts,murders,Terrorists and illegals for money.
Posted by True on July 4, 2007 10:07 AMJesus:
Watch out Medwyn isn't into men loving men no matter who you are. Are you the Jesus from above or a Jesus from south of the border?
True:
FACT: most pedophiles are hetrosexual men.
You seem to be thinking about having sex with you dead dog. I think you need to see a good doctor and get this kinda stuff off your mind. If you want to solve some problems that are much bigger than "gay pride fest day" I suggest child abuse, elderly abuse, spousal abuse as a few you could be working on . Leave your dead dog alone, he, she) suffered enough just living with you.
Uno said:
"That was me above."
You're proud of that post?
...always you protest too much.
Posted by Charles B on July 4, 2007 08:32 PMCharles, that’s me here too, and I am proud of it. Besides I just forgot to sign it, but you already knew that.
Uno
Old Grouch, not all gays are pedophiles, but all men on boy relationship is homosexual, did that clear it up for you? So, when a Catholic priest fondles or have sex with young boys, they are not only pedophiles but also gay. Also, I don’t know what country you live in, but in the US by far the majority of AIDS cases are in the gay community, or transferred via homosexual contact, like it or not.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/resources/factsheets/msm.htm
If you know something they don’t, write to them.
Truly funny, Uno...you're all upset because I implied that you have a small penis but not at all bothered that I made the same impication about your intelligence.
But then your ignorance about HIV/AIDs is all the proof of your low IQ we need. More than 85% of all the people living with HIV/AIDS in the world...are heterosexual....like it or not.
If you had ANY intelligence you would understand a few of the following things:
1. You are correct in stating that the majority of people DIAGNOSED with HIV/AIDS in the U.S. are gay males....but the piece missing in that puzzle is the fact that gay men are alot more likely to get tested than heterosexuals. In other words, there are plenty of hetero people out there with HIV/AIDS who don't know it because they don't get tested.
2. In many other countries throughout the world, gay men are not as likely to identify themselves as gay to doctors or health officials as their counterparts in the U.S. because they fear the consequences of people finding out.
Are you putting this together, Uno?
Gay men in the U.S. have the freedom and security, despite the bigotry of people like you and Medwyn, to be truthful and honest about their sexual orientation and the courage and wisdom to get tested.
If every person in the U.S. were tested for HIV/AIDS, I guarantee you the statistics would tell a much different story than the lie you are trying to perpetuate. HIV/AIDs is just as prevalent in the heterosexual community as it is among gay males, but most of them just don't know it.
Posted by Thomas on July 5, 2007 09:38 AMI don't care what your sexual preference is.....we are all equal until we start asking for "special treatment". So, if I (being heterosexual) live with my good girlfriend and she has a better health insurance benefit that I do shouldn't she be allowed to put me on her insurance, period? Or do we have to prove our sexual orientation? See? that's what I don't get. I think we should be allowed to include anyone we want since we are paying for it.
And another thing, nobody asked me if I wanted to pay for the health benefits for illegals but I do, does that make me a Mexi-sexual???? Just asking.
Uno,
Pedophilia is considered entirely separately from homosexuality in nearly all psychological studies. The assertion of sameness there, that you make, is one generally bruited about by those whose lack of knowledge leads to simplistic generalizations. As a generalization, this particular canard is much beloved of the religious cults that base their "scientific pronouncements" on the Hebrew mythology book. But, going back, even as far as Freud, Jung, and the earliest works on analysis, psychology, psychotherapy, and child development, you will find that professionals draw a clear distinction between the two.
I will not attempt to debate any belief system. I can only refer believers to the professional journals, texts on developmental psychology, and other relevant sources, should they care to inform themselves of that which might be in conflict with it.
As to my statement earlier about AIDS: I apparently wrongly interpreted your presentation to be one of making a statement concerning the matter on a general level. Insofar as restricting the subject to incidence in the US, be concerned, you are, of course, correct; and your source is quite valid. On the level of incidence world-wide, however, my previous statement stands, as may be verified by any number of media articles on the subject, and on the subject of today's campaigns to attempt to control the epidemic.
Posted by Old Grouch on July 5, 2007 09:55 AMJ,
I do not quite see what you mean by "special treatment".
But, in answer to the matter about inclusion of someone on insurance: This is a matter of Contract Law and contracts, rather than of "sexual orientation". I can only say that there are several States that have various forms of "partnership registrations" that are not at all dependent upon anyone inquiring about sexual - or other totally personal and private - matters. You and your friend are as free to make use of these as anyone else; and you and your friend are equally free to enjoy the benefits of such a registration.
I am not personally aware of what is available in Colorado along these lines. But, perhaps, others might direct you to the benefits, or programs, available.
As to your final sentence, I take it you are being facetious there.
Oh, lighten up, Old Grouch.
Posted by -J- on July 5, 2007 10:21 AMAnd another thing, OG, if it is "totally personal and private" why do those who have chosen an alternate life-style feel the need to broadcast it??????? Just askin', don't get your hump up and start spittin' and clawin'.
Posted by -J- on July 5, 2007 10:23 AMOld, I do make simplistic generalizations, “Pedophilia is considered entirely separately from homosexuality”, really? Try to sugarcoat filth? Unlike you, I’m not gonna spend one minute excusing the actions of some, just because deep thinker PHDs said so. May be you can sit down with, and explain your stance to the families of the victims of Jeffery Dahmler, John Wane Gacy and countless others. I’m sure these families want to hear the in-depth analysis of these so-called professionals and feel a lot better after.
Posted by Uno on July 5, 2007 11:10 AMJ,
You really don't get this do...and it seems like you are making a CHOICE to not get it.
You can marry your girlfriend, because there's not laws preventing you from doing so.
It doesn't matter whether you love her or not. You can marry her just because you want to be on her health plan.
But I know 3 different gay couples who have been in loving, monogamous relationships for 25+ years and they do not have the "special right" that you have as a heterosexual to marry the person of your choice.
They are not allowed to file taxes together. They have to hire a laywer at hundred of dollars an hour to get a fraction of the same benefits that you can get for the minimal cost of a marriage license.
You're the one who is enjoying elitest " special rights".
But, I have to say this Old, you do make intelligent well studied comments, even if I disagree with them. Unlike me, most of the time you show restraint even when ridiculed or down-talked. I applaud you for that.
Posted by Uno on July 5, 2007 11:31 AMI am not saying people don't have the right to marry whomever they want same sex or not....I have never said that. I am just tired of those who have chosen an alternative lifestyle having to broadcast that choice.
Posted by -J- on July 5, 2007 11:38 AMNow let’s get to you Thomas, I’m not upset at your childish comments, simply ignored it, but you could get more inventive and put more humor into it, it’s too generic, also it is hard to take you seriously after that. I’ll try.
Now put your tape measure down and read this:
I’ve said it before and say it again, I do not support any lifestyle which is outside of the generic one mommy-one daddy, kids (or not) 50s family structure, call me old fashioned. Anything outside of that proved to be harmful to society over and over again. The supporting back bone of this country is your basic family, and not single mothers with 4 kids from 4 different fathers, swingers, gays, 27 wives or sheeps. Yes, that includes gays, but not limited to.
Uno, all down through human history, the most successful family type has been the extended family, living close together or even in one large house.
The 50`s family structure has been considered one of the most destructive of all times, when it goes wrong. It is called the nuclear family and it really can blow up.
Men have unlimited sexual access to their children when there are no sister, aunts or others in the household.
Domestic violence is much easier if a couple live alone.
If we dump the health insurance industry , and get a universal health care system, then people will have health care without having to be married and that one problem will solve itself.
Gays should marry, and live just like the rest of us do.
And you should get over your love afair with the very short lived experiment in family called the nuclear family.
Posted by Sharon B. on July 5, 2007 12:23 PMSharon, good point.
The extended family or clan structure is the oldest and best tested .
Any idea when the "nuclear" family became the standard in the US?
BS, after the Second World War, for a variety of reasons. We had tremendous production capacity and not need for war materials, so the housing and household appliance industries really took off.
Young couples wanted their own homes and that added to the building boom.
The nuclear family always existed, but it wasn`t so isolated as in this country starting about the 50`s as Uno stated.
Posted by Sharon B. on July 5, 2007 05:20 PMGrasping for straws, Uno stated:
"Unlike you, I’m not gonna spend one minute excusing the actions of some, just because deep thinker PHDs said so. "
Uno, this is a very revealing comment. Are familiar with logical fallacies? I suggest you figure out why this is one and then you'll know why it is such obvious bullsh*t.
"... I do not support any lifestyle which is outside of the generic one mommy-one daddy, kids (or not) 50s family structure, call me old fashioned. Anything outside of that proved to be harmful to society over and over again."
Show me the studies supporting this contention. Should be easy since it's "proved" to be harmful "over and over again."
You may have valid points sometimes, I don't know, because your tendency to exaggerate obscures any reasoned position you might hold.
Posted by Charles B on July 5, 2007 09:43 PMUno,
Well, I'm not all that surprised at your answer. Your prejudices are firmly fixed; and your insistence upon lumping together any and all forms of behavior that you, yourself, either fear or dislike is manifest.
I can say, sincerely, without sarcasm or intention to denigrate, that you would make a fortune in the Je$u$ Bu$ine$$ (Protestantism) today. Just call anything you don't understand, "filth"; and sarcastically rant against those who have spent years acquiring knowledge in the area of psychology, and working with those you despise so clearly. Never mind the facts; just be against it.
As to your comments about, " . . . harmful to society . . . " I would point you to a text, or two, dealing with that matter:
John Boswell, "Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality", University of Chicago Press, 1980. And, by the same author, "Same Sex Unions in Pre-Modern Europe", Vintage Books, Random House, 1994.
I have said before, I will not attempt to debate a superstition/predudice/belief-system.
I have also said it before; but I'll say it again. Those who do not want to learn, won't.
Posted by Old Grouch on July 6, 2007 07:45 AMCharles, I’ll make it simple so even you can grasp it, show me one study which shows single mothers with several kids from several different fathers better off than mom and dad, married, with same number of kids.
Here are the studies to support my claims:
International
http://lists101.his.com/pipermail/smartmarriages/1999-March/002037.html
US
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_6_118/ai_71250700
There are tons more, you look it up. Now can you post a link showing that gay couples are better off that heterosexual married couples.
Charles, I’ve tried to post a number of links supporting the fact that most people better off being married as one man and one woman, financially, health, longer life expectancy, all aspect, I’m still waiting for yours proving that single mothers and gays are better off. I did find links to studies showing high drug abuse rate and suicide, also shorter life expectancy in the gay community. I’ll post them if this filtering system lets me.
Old, my believes does cross patterns with Christian beliefs, but that does not make me one. I could use the money, bringing up kids aren’t cheap, but I wouldn’t trade them for anything. Can you pint me to that “filth” comment, I’ve looked but can’t find it. If it was about pedophiles, I’ll stand by it.
That's "point me to" not print...
Posted by Uno on July 6, 2007 09:04 AMAlso Old, your bias is showing when you disapprove of “filth”, but say nothing about “Uno,
when's the last time you got cornholed?” or “Blow it out your fat bigoted butt, Medwyn. You're a fundie pig of the first order.”, from your frineds.
And on top of that you bring up John Boswell, a gay Catholic who died from AIDS. Just what is that suppose to prove to me, Old? That he would be still alive, if he actually followed the church’s teachings?
This is a book review but you get the idea…
http://www.amazon.com/Case-Marriage-Married-Healthier-Financially/dp/0767906322
I like this comment “n fact, virtually every study of happiness that has ever been done has found that married men and women are happier than singles" (p. 168); the authors' address the antiquated and misinterpreted 1972 study done by Bernard claiming otherwise.”
Here is another, I’m not gonna link to a religious site, I don’t much care for them either…
http://www.psychpage.com/family/library/brwaitgalligher.html
Posted by Uno on July 6, 2007 09:48 AMUno, remove the "http://" from the urls you post.
That way they get parsed as plain text and you can post as many as you like.
Yet another, there are about 10,900,000 hits, I’m not gonna post them all, your turn…
http://familyscholars.org/?p=6069
Thanks, Bango!
Posted by Uno on July 6, 2007 09:56 AMIf married people are happier, let`s let gays marry.
Maybe the ideal family is mom, dad, kids, decent housing and income, health care. So what?
We are not saying that if homosexuals get married that will deny kids a regular family.
I mean can you just picture the hoards of people running to get married and destroy the nuclear family if gay marriage is allowed.?
Uno, only gays will get married and they already live together. They already have kids living in gay households.
I think your imagined idea of society if gays marry is pure fantasy.
Posted by Sharon B. on July 6, 2007 11:36 AMUno,
Back a few postings you were asking: "Try to sugarcoat filth?", when I was citing psychological differences, in rebuttal to your assertion that pedophilia is homosexual as such. You are the one lumping things together; and my indicating that the scientific world doesn't see them that way is by no means an attempt to "sugarcoat" anything.
I cite Boswell as a scholar, A. Whitney Griswold Professor of History at Yale. You were making statements about the historical effects of homosexuality on society; and I was offering some textual evidence that those statements were not absolute. Neither Dr. Boswell's work, nor his standing as an historian, is invalidated, or diminished, by his having a particular lifestyle, or AIDS.
As to the comments made to you, sir. I have never made any such remarks; and I have no responsibility for those who do. That you also assert that they are "friends" in reference to me merely reaffirms your inability to distinguish between my attempts to clarify positions with resources for the opposite point of view, and your point of view that your fixed prejudices are, somehow, vastly superior to anyone else's knowledge and experience.
As to the matter of marriage vs. single status, that is irrelevant here; and adds nothing by way of either evidence or proof to the several false assertions you have already made.
Since yours is an impregnable superstition/prejudice/belief-system, I'll leave you to it.
Posted by Old Grouch on July 6, 2007 01:01 PMM. Sloane rants and raves about 'gay' lifestyle and gives us statements about ills of the GLBT community that are often caused by the discrimination and hatred he spews forth in his writing. To add insult to injury he then tries to cloak his bile by defiling the name of the one person who should remind him that we are all brothers and sisters, all imperfect and that only he who is without sin should be allowed to cast the first stone. M Sloane your hate and closed mindedness only make me understand why my GLBT brothers and sisters need my support and that they deserve every right that my wife and I have based upon our marriage.
Posted by Roger on July 6, 2007 03:52 PM