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Father Donald Armstrong
Wednesday, August 22 at 2:00 PM

Brian Stuckey of Denver writes:

As reported by Jean Torkelson in the Rocky Mountain News, the case of Fr. Donald Armstrong may be tried in a civil court. If that is so, “the church court’s findings have no standing in any secular court of law,” according to Armstrong’s attorney, Dennis Hartley. If he is exonerated of the allegations of financial wrongdoing, we hope that he will be restored to his rightful ministry at Grace and St. Stephens Church. Conservative priests like Armstrong are not always welcomed with open arms in the Episcopal Church today. In view of the widespread prevalence of secular humanism in the church, search committees are more likely to choose liberal priests than conservatives. The case in Colorado Springs is hardly an isolated incident in the national church. Many of us recall the debate over the 1928 Book of Common Prayer at St. Mark’s parish back in the 1980’s and its subsequent demise. We hope that such an outcome at Grace and St. Stephen’s can be averted before it is too late.

This letter has not been edited.


READER COMMENTS

How can a church have "secular" anything. Isn`t that a contradiction in terms?

Now dissent or a differing view of humanity is "Secular Humanism".

Posted by Sharon B. on August 22, 2007 02:38 PM

First Armstrong stole their money, then he tried to steal their church - hope he ends up in jail where he belongs.

Posted by drew on August 22, 2007 02:40 PM

Brian! How are you? Haven't heard from you for a while. How are the wife and kids? Nice... nice. Still have that giant Bush altar in the back yard? Good. Oh? Your wife baked cookies for me? That was very thoughtful. Oh... look. They say "Bush in '08" in red icing on the top. Ummm..... Brian....... Bush can't run in '08. No. No-- now Brian! I'm not being mean again! Brian! Quit throwing things! You're ruining the cookies!!! Brian!!!!

Posted by Dan on August 22, 2007 05:00 PM

Ol' Stuckey took the kool aid straw out of his mouth long enough to defend a peice of garbage like Armstrong. Oh, but I forgot. Ol Stuckeroo has been defending the Bush administration and the rest of the ReTHUGliCONS too, so I shouldn't be suprised.
Now all we need is Hank and Keith and we'll really have a kool aid party going!

Posted by Beavis on August 22, 2007 06:08 PM

Well, now! All this fuss over who gets the biggest share of the take for his franchise in the Je$u$ Bu$ine$$. (And of course, for himself as the franchise holder, or entrepreneur.) So much ado about nothing!

Competition is the name of the game. Down there in Horsemanure Junction, you have a number of Je$u$ Bu$ine$$ operations; and it's all about which one gets the biggest take. After all, there's only so much fleece to sheer, and so many sheeple to sheer it from.

There's the "mega-church", founded by Haggard - which has a $100,000+ payoff to make, to get rid of the guy, along with whatever is necessary to stage the show for Haggard's replacement as star attraction.

Then there's the Dobsonite cult, with all it wants to support its lobbying for anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-Civil -Rights, and whatever other hatemongering projects Dobson dreams up.

And, of course, the old gothic pile downtown, which is in the eye of the Nigerian 419 JuJuopalian Chief Witch-Doctor as a new cash cow to milk - with Armstrong to be paid for handing it over; and kept on the take for running it.

Each of them wants to be the Greatest Show in Town. And even down in the Horsemanure Junction area, the money doesn't just flow down Fountain Creek

Ringling Brothers, Barnum and Bailey just passes through, and makes a whistle stop. The local Je$u$ Bu$ine$$ franchises are there all year round.

You pays your money, and you takes your choice of how you get to heaven, along with what kind of entertainment you want along the way on Sunday morning. And right now, you can enjoy the Sideshow as well.

Gimme that ol' time religion!
It'll make pots of money for me!
(You all know the tune.)

Posted by Old Grouch on August 23, 2007 07:27 AM

I look at these comments and one thing is totally clear--Not one person has checked out the FACTS in this situation. The bishop spent a year investigating before any charges were made. I find it sad that this has split a congregation, but this is NOT a Ted Haggard type of megachurch, and I expect that Fr. Armstrong's crimes will be taken care of by a civil court.

Posted by Pam B on August 23, 2007 07:46 AM

If you want to vote, go to: http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/

Larry King poll shows that 7% claim to be atheist; 15% claim Christian and 3% and under for other beliefs.

Sharon's concern over secular taking up residence in celestial nonsense on stilts is a ploy to attract humanists, atheists, agnostics, freethinkers to replace what has been stolen from its coffer. The church's impotence needs a shot of progesterone and estrogen in human form aforementioned.

Deicide Corner: “The impotence of God is infinite.” -- Anatole France

Posted by Richard Grimes r22037yahoo Risen ape/Deicide. Intelligent enough to be atheist but lack courage. on August 23, 2007 10:02 AM

CORRECTION: 70% i.e. 70% claim to be atheist: 'tis my first mistake in this life.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/

Posted by R.G. on August 23, 2007 10:09 AM

Pam B,

Are you at all familiar with the quarrel between Dean Henry Martyn Hart and the first Aglimethodopresbylutheropalian - or, for PC sake, "Protestant Episcopal" - bishop, John Franklin Spalding?

History does have a habit of repeating itself. The stars of the show change, but the story-line remains the same. Competition is the name of the game; and money lies at the root of the "blame".

The Je$u$ Bu$ine$$ is always perfectly predictable.

Posted by Old Grouch on August 23, 2007 10:22 AM

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