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legal and illegal immigrants
Friday, August 31 at 2:00 PM

Jan Herron of Evergreen writes:

Yesterday’s Opinion/ Editorial needs some clarification: Ms. Salinas speaks about the “anti-immigrant rhetoric” of presidential candidates, but she does not cite a single example of their rhetoric. She cites examples of anti-illegal alien rhetoric, which reflects the views of over 80% of the American people. That Salinas does not make a distinction between legal and illegal immigrants is the root of her problem in failing to understand how American democracy works. No more criminal activity should be allowed by illegal alien invaders. People want laws enforced and the invaders status exposed. A perfect example is the execution of the three young college students with a promising future at the Newark massacre. Surely, she knows the meaning of the word ILLEGAL...she needs to use it!

This letter has not been edited.


READER COMMENTS

Salinas and others of her ilk refuse to see the elephant in the room. It's going to be a helluva day when the elephant squats and dumps all over her! I can't wait!!!

Posted by A on August 31, 2007 02:20 PM

AWOL/MIA: Uncle Obama's Cabin (Congressional Black Caucus - CBC- comical blacks in congress). These 42 MT suits and dresses, "fear" Latino political backlash, with regards to the criminal illegal Mexican issues. They act as if MLKII never walked the earth. Illegal Mexicans are emotionally and financially raping the national black community. Worse yet, they register and actually vote. Blacks in Northeast Denver have witnessed their votes being nullified by illegal Mexicans. For the first time in decades, Denver RTD board of directors is comprised of 13 whites and 2 Latinos.

This voter-fraud was engineered by legal Mexican, US Sen. Salazar. While state attorney general, Salazar permitted the GOP to do a slick Texas-style redistricting in Northeast Denvers, with the intent of nullifying black votes. Slazar and the GOP conspired to do this because they didn't want blacks to have a voice in our federal funded cash-cows (T-REX, Fas Tracks, CBMS, Fitzsimons, etc.). Obama ain't black ENUFF!

Posted by centennialslavebehinddacottoncurtain on August 31, 2007 04:59 PM

OH please, where do illegal mexican vote ? can you prove your claims ?

Posted by FRESH on August 31, 2007 06:17 PM

Anyone who is worried about a latin american immigrant taking his job should. since he was too lazy to get an education in school to be immune to competition from undocumented workers, he is probably lazy on the job too

Posted by edmond on August 31, 2007 07:14 PM

Anyone who is worried about a latin american immigrant taking his job should. since he was too lazy to get an education in school to be immune to competition from undocumented workers, he is probably lazy on the job too

Posted by edmond on August 31, 2007 07:14 PM

edmond, the pompous ass is back and in true form.

Posted by on August 31, 2007 07:42 PM

Fresh,

R.M.N 6/25/07
THOUGHT SHE WAS A CITIZEN

40-YEAR OLD COULD BE DEPORTED FOR VOTING

LOS ANGELES-All of her life, Zoila Meyer believed she was an American. She even won election to the City Council.

Now she is facing a threat of deportation for illegally voting, because she never became a citizen after being brought to this country from Cuba when she was 1 year old.
To be honest with you, I'm scared. How can
they just pluck me out of my family?,my kids.?
the 40 year-old mother of four said in a telephone interview Friday.
In April 2006, she pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of fraudentent voting and was placed on probation,fined and ordered to pay restitution. What Meyer didn't realize is that fraudently voting is a deportable offense.

Posted by on August 31, 2007 10:53 PM

Anonymous 10:53 pm Tell it to La Raza and the other pro- illegal supporters. La Raza (covertly)enables illegals and encourage them to vote,(Democrat) especially, the illegals who have stolen U.S. citizens Social Security numbers and U.S. Identities!!!

Posted by A on September 1, 2007 10:20 AM

Illegals will vote Republican. They are all for family values.

When they use someones SS number that puts money in the account. Shh don`t tell the government that they may be paying American citizens for illegals work.

Posted by Sharon B. on September 1, 2007 10:42 AM

A,

Hey I'm on your side..I saved this clipping because 40 Acres may be right..I'll bet they are voting illegally to get in office LA Raza people ..see today's RMN ..citizenship to be able to vote legally.

Posted by on September 1, 2007 01:05 PM

Jan Herron, Another good letter. Thank you for your effort. I don't read Salinas. If I wanted to read Mexican imperialism, I would go directly to the Council of La Raza or Lulac Website. Boycott or cancel Verizon Wireless. They just gave theCouncil of LA Raza a million dollars to further brown imperialism in this USA.

Posted by Ben's Border Street on September 2, 2007 07:22 AM

When an educated person does not distinguish between actions inside the boudnaries of the law and those clearly outside, you have to assume that this person does so purposefully. When a cause lacks moral high ground, tantrums and word games are inevitable. What is left to them besides cheap theatre? The illegal aliens had so much more sympathy from Americans before the demonstrations last year and told us who they are.

Posted by Leo B on September 2, 2007 06:15 PM

To answer "FRESH" who wrote: "OH please, where do illegal mexican vote ? can you prove your claims ?" Uh--here???? Here is ONE ILLEGAL (Zoila Meyer) who obviously was voting--she even RAN FOR OFFICE!!!!

And re "Now Zoila Meyer is facing a threat of deportation for illegally voting, because she never became a citizen after being brought to this country from Cuba" *** tell me this, what SSN was she using? Why was it never caught as fraudelent or stolen? BTW--THANK YOU U.S. Government for getting her!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!

Posted by Marty on September 2, 2007 06:50 PM

It's pathetic that our tax money is going to "the RACE" to further their cause.

An article in today's Denver Post, stated that Murguia (the RACE) was in town to meet with Senator Ken Salazar, Pena and Hispanic groups to see how they can get illegals to apply for citizenship and then get them registered to vote.

Americans better wake up before they have no rights at all.

Posted by Colorado Chick on September 2, 2007 07:28 PM

On Saturday Nov 17 , 2007 Americans will take a stand in Atlanta Georgia against this bs of Ilegals taking over.WE were attacked on Aug 18 by laraza in Seattle and this will not be allowed to occur again.
The Atlanta March For America is building a lot of momentum. Terry Funderburk,and American Patriots with Cuban ancestry, American patriots with all different kinds of ancestry will be there to express their story about battles they have fought and successes they have realized. The Atlanta March is one that is finally recognizing power of We the People, the proper and Constitutionally defined authority and "DECIDER" regarding our form of government and what our government will and will not do. American Patriots in the Atlanta March will define their love for America and all their fellow patriots regardless of color creed or national heritage as long as they are citizens of this great country. American Patriots will defiantly define opposition to destruction of American Sovereignty with population politics and illegal international agreements made without approval of representatives of the people or We the People. There will be no SPP and no NAU. The alphabet trade agreements that have made a mockery of our justice system and our constitution will be rescinded. NAFTA is the first on the chopping block. Mexico will not be taking America land from us. We will destroy flags representing these illegal usurpations of our power as the proper authorities in this great nation. Bring your American flags, bring your outrage, bring your loyalty to America, and more than anything else bring your joy and happiness over celebration of victories over our arrogant and tyrannical government. I will be there and hope you join me. It will be a great opportunity to provide each other with support and comfort of other American Patriots who share our dreams and hopes. This historical event will allow us to honor and celebrate the modern day American Patriots who have stood their ground in the face of unbearable odds and come out victorious. We can all learn from what they have done individually and as groups. Lets grow from knowledge and strength we gain from each other. Meet Jonnie and learn what it was like to battle Seattle Anarchists in the street and win. Fellow patriots this is the rally with the righteous power of Southern American Patriots. This is a celebration southern style that will let all of America know what it means to be a free American citizen that can walk and protest their government anytime and anywhere the constitution permits them to. And that is about damn anywhere and anytime we want. Walk with some of the bravest and strongest American Patriots of our time. They are like many veterans of wars. They have been to Vietnam, Korea, Iraq and a hundred other hell holes and are no longer afraid of hell in this life or the life hereafter. This group of Patriots will inspire all of us with fearless dedication they have to the cause of defending America from all enemies foreign and domestic. They are always in front of battle and first over the top anxious to get to the enemy. These are the leaders of our movement. Learn effective legal techniques you can use to assure your protests are always safe and not interfered with in anyway. Liberty or death. Americans are by definition born free and will live free or die fighting for liberty. Plan ahead and schedule the weekend around a little vacation time if you still have a job. All American Patriots are welcome to attend. See you there

Posted by www.freedomfighterradioshow.com on September 2, 2007 07:48 PM

Are we the USA still a sovereign? Have we not ginen away too much in the battle? When will we the People decide to wage war or surrender? Will we abandon our youth to wage a lonely battle? Our enemy is more organized, better disciplined, and has a greater desire to take from us that which we take for granted. We the People of the USA, who have never served in the military, have never sworn an Oath of Naturalization, or of true faith to the flag and Constitution of, 'These United States', will never fully appreciate, what our enemy wants to take from us. or why.

Posted by BorderRaven on September 2, 2007 08:52 PM

Are we the USA still a sovereign? Have we not ginen away too much in the battle? When will we the People decide to wage war or surrender? Will we abandon our youth to wage a lonely battle? Our enemy is more organized, better disciplined, and has a greater desire to take from us that which we take for granted. We the People of the USA, who have never served in the military, have never sworn an Oath of Naturalization, or of true faith to the flag and Constitution of, 'These United States', will never fully appreciate, what our enemy wants to take from us. or why.

Posted by BorderRaven on September 2, 2007 08:52 PM

Ms Salina. You know in your mind and heart the falsehood of illegal alien lobby position. You know that the illegal alien lobby is justifying illegal immoral unethical behavior. How can you put this to a test?
Innocent children help keep us honest and they force us to act ethically rather than politically and for self-gain. Ask yourself this question. How do we explain to children that people who break the laws win? Americans accept legal immigrants. Many of us are either immigrant of the sons and daughters of immigrant. The distinction is between law abiding people immigrant or not and law breakers like illegal aliens. I am a foreign-born Hispanic legal immigrant. My wife was born in Denmark. We are an immigrant family. Some of our employees and many of our friends are immigrants and we hardly notice except for the accent (I have one too). My wife and I celebrate legal immigration and despice lawlessnes and illegal immigration. My wife and I have no trouble at all explaining this to our children. Go on, be honest with yourself and join us and over 80% of American citizens who understand the distinction between legal immigrants and illegal aliens. Illegal aliens give legal immigrants a black eye. The illegal alien invasion is massive and it stigmatizes law abiding immigrants from countries all around the world who don't mock us by jumping our fence. I hope that upon reflecting on the injustice of an immigration system that rewards those who jump the line in front of long waiting law abiding foreigners who wish to migrate that you go to this website www.MinutemanHQ.com and join the fastest growing grassroots movement in America, the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.

Posted by on September 2, 2007 10:22 PM

Ms Salina. You know in your mind and heart the falsehood of illegal alien lobby position. You know that the illegal alien lobby is justifying illegal immoral unethical behavior. How can you put this to a test?
Innocent children help keep us honest and they force us to act ethically rather than politically and for self-gain. Ask yourself this question. How do we explain to children that people who break the laws win? Americans accept legal immigrants. Many of us are either immigrant of the sons and daughters of immigrant. The distinction is between law abiding people immigrant or not and law breakers like illegal aliens. I am a foreign-born Hispanic legal immigrant. My wife was born in Denmark. We are an immigrant family. Some of our employees and many of our friends are immigrants and we hardly notice except for the accent (I have one too). My wife and I celebrate legal immigration and despice lawlessnes and illegal immigration. My wife and I have no trouble at all explaining this to our children. Go on, be honest with yourself and join us and over 80% of American citizens who understand the distinction between legal immigrants and illegal aliens. Illegal aliens give legal immigrants a black eye. The illegal alien invasion is massive and it stigmatizes law abiding immigrants from countries all around the world who don't mock us by jumping our fence. I hope that upon reflecting on the injustice of an immigration system that rewards those who jump the line in front of long waiting law abiding foreigners who wish to migrate that you go to this website www.MinutemanHQ.com and join the fastest growing grassroots movement in America, the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.

Posted by on September 2, 2007 10:22 PM

Ms Salina. You know in your mind and heart the falsehood of illegal alien lobby position. You know that the illegal alien lobby is justifying illegal immoral unethical behavior. How can you put this to a test?
Innocent children help keep us honest and they force us to act ethically rather than politically and for self-gain. Ask yourself this question. How do we explain to children that people who break the laws win? Americans accept legal immigrants. Many of us are either immigrant of the sons and daughters of immigrant. The distinction is between law abiding people immigrant or not and law breakers like illegal aliens. I am a foreign-born Hispanic legal immigrant. My wife was born in Denmark. We are an immigrant family. Some of our employees and many of our friends are immigrants and we hardly notice except for the accent (I have one too). My wife and I celebrate legal immigration and despice lawlessnes and illegal immigration. My wife and I have no trouble at all explaining this to our children. Go on, be honest with yourself and join us and over 80% of American citizens who understand the distinction between legal immigrants and illegal aliens. Illegal aliens give legal immigrants a black eye. The illegal alien invasion is massive and it stigmatizes law abiding immigrants from countries all around the world who don't mock us by jumping our fence. I hope that upon reflecting on the injustice of an immigration system that rewards those who jump the line in front of long waiting law abiding foreigners who wish to migrate that you go to this website www.MinutemanHQ.com and join the fastest growing grassroots movement in America, the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.

Posted by on September 2, 2007 10:22 PM

Ms Salina. You know in your mind and heart the falsehood of illegal alien lobby position. You know that the illegal alien lobby is justifying illegal immoral unethical behavior. How can you put this to a test?
Innocent children help keep us honest and they force us to act ethically rather than politically and for self-gain. Ask yourself this question. How do we explain to children that people who break the laws win? Americans accept legal immigrants. Many of us are either immigrant of the sons and daughters of immigrant. The distinction is between law abiding people immigrant or not and law breakers like illegal aliens. I am a foreign-born Hispanic legal immigrant. My wife was born in Denmark. We are an immigrant family. Some of our employees and many of our friends are immigrants and we hardly notice except for the accent (I have one too). My wife and I celebrate legal immigration and despice lawlessnes and illegal immigration. My wife and I have no trouble at all explaining this to our children. Go on, be honest with yourself and join us and over 80% of American citizens who understand the distinction between legal immigrants and illegal aliens. Illegal aliens give legal immigrants a black eye. The illegal alien invasion is massive and it stigmatizes law abiding immigrants from countries all around the world who don't mock us by jumping our fence. I hope that upon reflecting on the injustice of an immigration system that rewards those who jump the line in front of long waiting law abiding foreigners who wish to migrate that you go to this website www.MinutemanHQ.com and join the fastest growing grassroots movement in America, the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.

Posted by Tony on September 2, 2007 10:24 PM

Ms Salina. You know in your mind and heart the falsehood of illegal alien lobby position. You know that the illegal alien lobby is justifying illegal immoral unethical behavior. How can you put this to a test?
Innocent children help keep us honest and they force us to act ethically rather than politically and for self-gain. Ask yourself this question. How do we explain to children that people who break the laws win? Americans accept legal immigrants. Many of us are either immigrant of the sons and daughters of immigrant. The distinction is between law abiding people immigrant or not and law breakers like illegal aliens. I am a foreign-born Hispanic legal immigrant. My wife was born in Denmark. We are an immigrant family. Some of our employees and many of our friends are immigrants and we hardly notice except for the accent (I have one too). My wife and I celebrate legal immigration and despice lawlessnes and illegal immigration. My wife and I have no trouble at all explaining this to our children. Go on, be honest with yourself and join us and over 80% of American citizens who understand the distinction between legal immigrants and illegal aliens. Illegal aliens give legal immigrants a black eye. The illegal alien invasion is massive and it stigmatizes law abiding immigrants from countries all around the world who don't mock us by jumping our fence. I hope that upon reflecting on the injustice of an immigration system that rewards those who jump the line in front of long waiting law abiding foreigners who wish to migrate that you go to this website www.MinutemanHQ.com and join the fastest growing grassroots movement in America, the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.

Posted by Tony on September 2, 2007 10:25 PM

Ms Salina. You know in your mind and heart the falsehood of illegal alien lobby position. You know that the illegal alien lobby is justifying illegal immoral unethical behavior. How can you put this to a test?
Innocent children help keep us honest and they force us to act ethically rather than politically and for self-gain. Ask yourself this question. How do we explain to children that people who break the laws win? Americans accept legal immigrants. Many of us are either immigrant of the sons and daughters of immigrant. The distinction is between law abiding people immigrant or not and law breakers like illegal aliens. I am a foreign-born Hispanic legal immigrant. My wife was born in Denmark. We are an immigrant family. Some of our employees and many of our friends are immigrants and we hardly notice except for the accent (I have one too). My wife and I celebrate legal immigration and despice lawlessnes and illegal immigration. My wife and I have no trouble at all explaining this to our children. Go on, be honest with yourself and join us and over 80% of American citizens who understand the distinction between legal immigrants and illegal aliens. Illegal aliens give legal immigrants a black eye. The illegal alien invasion is massive and it stigmatizes law abiding immigrants from countries all around the world who don't mock us by jumping our fence. I hope that upon reflecting on the injustice of an immigration system that rewards those who jump the line in front of long waiting law abiding foreigners who wish to migrate that you go to this website www.MinutemanHQ.com and join the fastest growing grassroots movement in America, the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.

Posted by Tony on September 2, 2007 10:25 PM

I am a retired Immigration Officer that spent over twenty six years talking to, interviewing and learning about many different types of aliens both legal and illegal. That work gave me the opportunity to recognize aliens by a variety of factors simply by observing them.

I was recently in Denver. In fact, I spent a week there in June and travelled locally little more than was necessary because it was a business trip. I did visit restaurants, motels, airports etc and drove around the city going from one place to another.

So what did I encounter around Denver in the way of probable aliens? I encountered much the same mix that you see in Denver every day, Australian, Egyptian, Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Canadian, Irish, Israeli, Nigerian, Indian, Pakistani, Lebanese, Turk, Greek, Mexican, and I will guess Sudanese.

Essentially the situation in Denver is similar to other large cities I have visited. You have significant aliens in your midst and many of them are not from Mexico. So why the fascination with the Mexican illegal alien?

The problem we are facing in the United States is from all illegal aliens within our borders, both now and in the future. This is what we need to focus on and this is the issue that must be addressed.

Posted by Zack Taylor on September 3, 2007 11:38 PM

Now that Bush has opened the borders to trucks from Mexico We shouldn't see illegals coming in Vans . Now they can bring them in in Semi trucks. Terrorists can load a truck in Mexico and drive straight through to any Destination. Wonderful right??????

Posted by Ron on September 4, 2007 02:11 PM

Re: Legal and Illegal Immigrants
I couldn't agree more with Jan Herron. For years now we have been told to be politically correct and quite simply political correctness is a good way to hide right from wrong. It's way past the time that we simply tell the truth. Illegal immigration is just that, illegal! Illegals don't take jobs from "Americans who didn't finish school or who are lazy", they take jobs from American citizens who need to earn a decent wage, and illegals are willing to work cheaper. It's time to crack down on businesses who hire illegals, and it's time to secure our borders for all who cross illegally, whether they mean us harm or not!

Posted by Connie Harn on September 4, 2007 04:50 PM

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