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Pete Klammer of Wheat Ridge writes:

As if betting on animals to maul each other, and then drowning or strangulating the “loser” underperformers were something children would naturally do, and outgrow with age? My eye!
Thank you for you euphemistic apology, Mr. Vick, but you got it exactly backwards: you an your ilk were not “immature” but simply depraved, ethically unhinged. The only children who would engage in such bloody circus, would be those who learned it from “mature” adults as inhumane and lacking in conscience as yourself. Don’t try to “childwash” your guilt.

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but he found Jesus because of it.

I hope his cellmates have four legs and tails

And don't children who brutalize and sidistically kill animals grow up to be serial killers?

(No Keith, not people who hate their Cheerios.)

You gotta spell it out for Keith.

Shaupeen asked:
And don't children who brutalize and sidistically kill animals grow up to be serial killers?

Not most of them, but some grow up to manage Planned Parenthood centers where they can brutalize and murder babies in the name of women's rights.

Before you "choicer's" come unglued, go view a so-called partial birth abortion and then tell me what sick-Vick did even comes close.

why does it have to be a conversation about what Dick, I mean Vick did, vs. abortion? Two very different topics.

I fully agree that what Vick did to the dogs is not at all right but I guess that I'm a little amazed that the media circus is all aghast at the death of the dogs and the death of babies is ignored.

Wow, skeptical, you are really off topic. This thread was about Vick and his dogs, but you brought the slobber of a completely different point! Why? And how can you have time to type? Shouldn't you be caring for all those unwanted babies that you adopted so they wouldn't be aborted? I mean, you're no hypocrite, right? Well, if typing keeps you from drawing a laser-enhanced bead on abortion doctors, then I guess we'll tolerate your off-topic rantings.

shaupeen
Pretty violent fantasies you're revealing there. Does your family need to intervene?

No boy in my family would have dared to hurt animals.

We feminized them. We made them into liberal Democrats.

BLACK FELONIES vs. WHITE FELONIES. MIkey's doggie-bags and Bush's body-bags (100K). Bush lacks the moral authority to prosecute Vick. Bush is a UCMJ-felon 40+ years AWOLee, deserter, and guilty of illegal separation and discharge). Felon hires fellow felon. USSC Affrimative Action Judge Alito is a UCMJ-felon, just like Bush. Alito blew off his active duty military service obligation too. Bush pimped and exploite taxpayers for 2 years of fighter pilot training. Alito pimped and exploited us for 7 years of free college education (JD and undergrad degrees). Noshow for 11 years active military duty service obligation

This nappyheaded "HO", is sick and tired of Bush holding black men to a higher moral standard, than the white occupiers of the Oval Office, US Secret Service, and USSC. Ex-black Denver US Marshal Benny Bailey (26 years service) is a Bush victim too. Bailey under oath about his consenual sexual affair with a "WHITE WOMAN" (alternate juror in Tim McVeigh's OK City bombing trial). Bailey was asked under oath about his "nookie-gate". The woman's husband ratted Bailey out. Bush, former USAG Ashcroft, and Denver Federal Judge "lap-dancing" Nottingham, violated Bailey's privacy and constitutional rights by asking him this invasive question.

This K-K-k posse, sentenced Bailey to 6 years in federal prison. The Bailey clan lost all of their federal retirement benefits. Clinto pulled the same tricak and Hillary/Chelsea were rewarded with an $8 million book deal. Recently, the "WHITE" Denver US Secret Service O-I-C was found to have had an adulturous sexual affair, however, Snooty-Notty, "W", and Gonzo, didn't question him under oath.

If Sen. Obama is black ENUFF, then a pardon is in the future of the Bailey-clan (GOP lynched and waterboarded).

You're STILL not on topic skeptical. But nice try at the deflection. It didn't work, but nice try.

Go away M. Vick and never come back!!

A Black man called in to Talk Radio and rationalized Vick's conduct because that conduct is in the Black DNA (my words). He said Blacks have been doing the dog-fight routine for so long they've become anesthetized (my word) to it. In short: The Black man said in his words: Don't blame Vick; that's what Black men do. This admission was as shocking to the host as it was to me. It is best said that this is what a tiny minority of Black men do. A jury of Black men thinking thusly would exonerate Vick.

Men, in general have been doing this kind of stuff forever.

In the Middle East they use puppies for soccer balls.

How many men have you known who brag about hurting and killing cats?

Her last post just shows the type of men that Sharon B associates with....or proves that she is a tiresome man-hater...or the reincarnation of Eileen Wournos....take your pick.

Ya Amazon I run around with puppy kickers.

If you can`t refute what I write, go shoot some arrows.

Vick thinks immature males outgrow this.

I say many never do.

Refute away.

I don't need to refute anything. All I need to do is read another story in the RMN about women starving their children or putting them in cages. There is at least one a week.

And now for the Sharon B-like connection.....

Women starving children or putting them in cages is not suprising, after all, women have always been like that, since Eve tempted Adam.

The point is, don't try to force a context for your opinion. Just come out and say it. "I hate men and think they are evil."

Violent women are statistically rare compared to men.

Men invented looting, raping, pillaging, war, blood sports and loved it all.

Women try to control this uncivilized behavior in their children to make it possible for society to exist.

I will send you $1,000.00 for every women who takes a gun or knife to a workplace and kills some man.

You pay me $500.00 for every man who does this.

I`ll even throw in another $100.00 for every innocent bystander the women kill.

Now isn`t that a deal.?

Vick, and his few supporters would like us to believe that boys are like this until they grow up. I say that boys, and some girls need training to be kind to animals and others. It is not maturity alone that does it.

Evil is a religious term. I don`t think in good/evil ways.

Skeptical, that partial birth stuff happens all the time in the veterinarian world.

Calves, horses and others have to be cut up and removed because they can`t be born.

I always read letters and column from women who have PBA`s late in their term. They always convince me it was for the best.

1-3 month PBA`s don`t upset me. Very little there to remove.

There is a great confusion between PBA early and late term.

Amazon, when I determine that I hate men, all men everywhere, I will let you know.

Skeptical....although I am not a huge abortion supporter, I believe the reason people are aghast at Vick vs. abortions, is that the dogs are actually living, breathing beings already born. There is no refuting that. It is what people believe about when a life becomes a life that is up for grabs, people have different beliefs, I happen to believe it starts at conception, but thats me. Sharon B...not understanding your post about PBA in first trimester, there really isnt such a thing is there? I believe PBA is a form of abortion when the baby, fetus, contents, tissue, etc, whatever people percieve it to be, is too large to suction. Am I missing something?

KJ, I get confused on this too. It should be called Partial Delivery Abortion because the birthing process has not started.

The name implies that the fetus is being born at the time of the abortion.

I think it is when the head of the fetus is to large to come out easily.

A number of women have written first person stories about PBA and why they had them.

One I remember had a condition called placental displacement. She was slowly bleeding to death.

As to why they don`t have cesarean, that is major surgery and if these pregnancies are going bad, the woman should not be asked to go through all that on top of loosing a baby she wanted.

Mid term abortions is where it gets confusing. I wish some people who really know all this would write in.

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