Ted Haggard
Ted Haggard is asking for monies to last two years. He earned 150K for ten months while in the church. I wonder how much heed needs. Why is it that Pastors, Ministers, any clergymen always need money. Why is it that nun’s live in poverty and their male counterparts live in luxury. Why do preachers have three piece suits and nuns have worn the same outfit for centuries. It is time that people stop giving to their leaders of the church money and give the church money that will help poor people.
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Haggard is a repulican hero, he should be supported by the followers of the rightious republicn family values friends. if you dont send him your money you are a idiot. liberal liars framed this hero and made his downfall. Haggard is a hero and we shuld support him.
Posted by Keef on August 30, 2007 02:33 PMIsn't Haggard a clown?He is a real piece of work.
Some people just need to be shot,ya know?
Posted by on August 30, 2007 02:47 PMKeef,
It's a fine send-up of Keith/An American you're doing but I think forgetting to space between words here and there would ad that nuance that seems missing.Also,forget the periods (or add them in the wrong spot) and don't capitalize proper nouns so much.
Otherwise, well done!
I think I'll even start responding as though you're not taking the piss to lend additional credibility to your efforts.
-Your friendly neighborhood "child left behind"...
Posted by Charles B on August 30, 2007 02:58 PMCharles B,
maybe your right I thought perhaps I could get by but I just can't come across that stupid. I do believe Keith isn't for real either but I thought it might be fun, asta lavista.
Posted by Keef on August 30, 2007 03:55 PMOnce a con man on the scam, always the con man on the scam...
Posted by on August 30, 2007 04:15 PMANYONE who gives money to a church I mean business where they admin of that church live like kings, are monumental morons and deserve to have their money taken from them .
IDIOTS
Posted by fresh on August 30, 2007 04:52 PMWhy all the nun references? Haggard was a preacher, not a priest.
Fresh - How true. There's a huge difference between preaching from the heart vs. preaching to stuff your wallet.
Posted by KW on August 30, 2007 05:14 PMKW,
A huge difference eh?
I do believe in miracles. Where is this wonderful phenomonon of difference to be found?
Surely we are all entitled to at least one miracle in our lives. Aren't we?
Please. Do let us in on the secret location.
Posted by Old Grouch on August 30, 2007 06:39 PM“nuns have worn the same outfit for centuries” – pass it down from generation to generation, must be pretty worn by now…they don’t make ‘em like they used to.
Posted by Uno on August 30, 2007 07:11 PMPity poor Mrs. Haggard, she had to have sex looking at him.
Posted by Sharon B. on August 30, 2007 08:43 PMSharon B
Maybe not...he does have a proclivity for the "unusual"...
Posted by on August 30, 2007 08:47 PMI'm sending my money to the "Jimmy Swaggert School for Wayward Girls." Or maybe the "Larry Craig Support Group for those Afflicted with Wide Stance Syndrome." We have to wipe out that scourge. Poor man...
Posted by Liam on August 30, 2007 09:02 PMhey Sharon B.
Um, the way he likes it, I doubt she saw his face THAT much. :).
Posted by KJ on August 30, 2007 09:38 PMKJ, just long enough each time to get her pregnant.
Wonder if she thinks back, 'now he said he was at a conference in December,' hmmm, and last spring he was out of state for days.'
Eventually it is going to hit her. All of it.
Posted by Sharon B. on August 30, 2007 09:56 PMThe head man or woman, be they priests, preachers or shamans, gets first count on the money, so what difference does it make then if you give it to the church or to the head man. And why do they always need money? Well could it possibly have to do with the way in which they are spoiled rotten by the gullible sheep that wait for every word that drips from their lying lips and support every request they make for, yet again, more money because they believe, in their otherwise sane minds, that that is what God wants them to do because the head man told them so.
This is nothing more than people trying to buy their way into heaven but, don't ever try to tell them that. If you do, they'll get the man to place the burden of sin of some sort on you for questioning the motives of his flock, and he'll just demand more money from them to fight this new evil in the world that you represent. Sometimes the truth is better left untold.
Posted by Allen Campbell on August 30, 2007 10:01 PMAllen Campbell, that was well said. And clever thinking. Let them think we like them and agree.
Posted by Sharon B. on August 31, 2007 12:25 AMI think Haggard is opening his new church in the restrooms at DIA, that shouldnt require much money.
Posted by Good News on August 31, 2007 06:45 AMSharon B;
Haggards wife is still with him you know, Basically, the ho did him (and still does him!) for the money.
Also, if the morons want to gice him money...
well, a fool and his money are.... anyway, it is their money.
Why do people think they can pay their way into heavan? well, why do they buy lottery tickets ? Let's see, I can risk $20/ month for a one billionth chance of winning a $million or I can risk $20 per month on a chance that there really is a heavan that accepts cash.....
hmmmm.... why not do both?
AF
Posted by on August 31, 2007 08:47 AMOG - Have you not seen any miracles in your life thus far? Perhaps look more closely, you'll find them all around each and every day.
Posted by KW on August 31, 2007 09:33 AMAccording to the non sense spewed by The Bible, since Ted Haggard did the wild thing with another man, as punishment for that crime he must be put to death. The Christians better get busy following their "good book".
Posted by WW on August 31, 2007 09:55 AMTed Haggard's just trying to feed his family,
so everyone bad-mouthing him is surely
a bigot.
What I don't understand is everyone saying such horrible things about Gail. What did she do, except remain a faithful wife to her husband all these years, a concept not alot of us can grasp, because some people get divorced for idiotic reasons.............
Ted Haggard is living proof we have no business putting people like him on pedastals, because they are after all human, just like us and they will disappoint us.
Posted by Heather on August 31, 2007 10:21 AM"The profession of shaman has many advantages. It offers high status with a safe livelihood free of work in the dreary, sweaty sense. In most societies it offers legal privileges and immunities not granted to other men. But it is hard to see how a man who has been given a mandate from on High to spread tidings of joy to all mankind can be seriously interested in taking up a collection to pay his salary; it causes on to suspect that the shaman is on the moral level of any other con man.
But it's lovely work if you can stomach it."
- Lazarus Long "Time Enough for Love"
KW,
You were sort of promising - or at least indicating there was - a SPECIFIC miracle. Oh, well. Slide round, and change the subject, as usual. I wasn't really holding my breath waiting for you to give a straight answer.
Posted by Old Grouch on August 31, 2007 02:35 PMWhy aren't the liberal Democrats on this page defending Ted Haggard's lifestyle?I thought they were for homosexual rights.
Posted by An American on August 31, 2007 02:36 PMOG - I made no reference to any "miracle" being involved in the difference between the preachers. You decided for there to be a difference it must involve some great "phenomonon." And then you throw insults claiming I'm not answering your question as to where the (your) miracle is?
Are we starting the sauce early today?
Let me try and explain the difference a different way. Some enter the field of teaching the word because of their love for God and the teaching of His word. They will live with a poverty level lifestyle using the tithings of the congregation to help others rather than to live a lavishing lifestyle.
Others enter the field for monetary reasons only, preach in $1000 3 piece suits, own 4 cars and 3 homes and have at least one sermon a month on the importance of tithing.
Now are you trying to tell me you can't see any difference between the two preachers I've described above, or denying they even exist?
KW,
Worcestershire and Heinz on rare ocassions, with a good steak; but I had sandwiches for lunch, so not today.
Well, I guess we'll just have to take for granted that there are those who are such wonders. You've told us all that they exist. And when you tell us something, that's it.
Once upon a time, way back in the Depression, when I was a boy, there WAS a preacher down around skid-row Larimer Street - later memorialized in a pamphlet entitled "Horsefeathers and Applesauce", by one of our Colorado writers - who certainly resembled your example. Which is why the rest of the Je$u$ Bu$ine$$ franchi$e$, and franchi$ee$, did everything possible to close him down and run him out of town.
I read about him; but never did get to meet the man. Since then, I'd have to say that he was a real rarity; a one-of-a-kind never to be seen again, at least around these parts
And, I thought you were speaking about today's world. My error. Sorry.
Posted by Old Grouch on August 31, 2007 04:56 PMOld Grouch
There's still a few of those "true believer" preachers down around the skid row areas. One that I know of personally is Dan Burnnett. He works as a part time teller in a bank to provide for his living expenses and spends the balance of his time working his ministry. He's been doing it for around eleven years now.
While he contacts businesses to find jobs or housing for people, he'll take no donations from either business or local churches. He's a rare individual who lives his faith and convictions.
Almost as a postscript, he has a Doctorate in Theology from the Denver Seminary.
Posted by mongoose on August 31, 2007 05:44 PMmongoose,
Thank you. Years ago, I had the great privilege of knowing "Father Bart of Larimer Street". He passed to his reward as an Orthodox Archbishop, down in Santa Fe, NM, almost 25 years ago. For the life of him, he couldn't balance a checkbook - and usually didn't have all that much in an account to deal with anyway. But his impact on the lives of those of us who were his friends more than serves to lay up "treasures" where "no thief approaches nor moth corrupts."
And, somewhere in the Book, one does read that they are a "remnant", as well. Way too few; and way too far between.
Very much unlike the plethora of "experts" and/or "genuine religious" who fill up this website with their ideas.
Posted by Old Grouch on August 31, 2007 07:20 PM