Thanks, Mr. Bush
Thank you, George W. Bush, for all you’ve done for us.
On second thought, thanks for all you’ve done to us!
Greg Burdick, Westminster
Yes,Thank you for fixing the obvious mistakes from the corrupt clinton adm..Thank you for the great economy.Thank you for not allowing terrorist attacks on our soil.Thank you for telling the American people the truth unlike those lying piece of garbage democraps.etc.
Posted by Keith on August 23, 2007 12:52 AMHello Earth to Keith, Bush allowed the biggest attack on American soil in US history. I hate to inform you but Bush was Pres for 8 months prior to 9/11. He refused to look into the PDB regarding the possibility of terrorist attacks with air planes. Also, our economy is so good foreclosures are up 93% from last year.
Posted by Mike D. on August 23, 2007 01:51 AMAll of the gains in our economy in the last 4+ years are because we have BORROWED from everybody that would lend us. I can also increase my standard of living by going into debt using my credit cards. But as with credit cards as with our economy, you can only borrow for so long before the lenders will ask for their money back.
Also, did you know that the Dollar has LOST over 50% of it's purchasing power in the last 6 years in comparison to the Euro? Given that I travel extensively I can tell you that the standard of living has increased in Europe, whereas ours has decreased (I am a US citizen and that's why I am greatly concerned about the direction this country is taking).
Posted by on August 23, 2007 02:04 AMPoster 2:04,
How dare you post with facts and figures to back up your statements, You might wake up some of the sleeping people to a frightening reality most of us already face. sssshhhhh they are sleeping!!!!!
Posted by Mike D. on August 23, 2007 02:34 AMKeith - Mike D. is right - a bipartisan (you know - GOP & Dems actually working together) commission research US security & attempted to present to Bush first in Mar 2001, then in May - at which point the presenters were told "Cheney would look into it".
And since so many of us are big on enforcement, I would like to point out that the weapons of choice the terrorists used to take over the planes (box cutters) were already banned in carry-on luggage. The airlines were responsible for inspecting carryons (my curling iron was regularly spotted & I had to prove what it was on several occasions - and at some airports pre 9/11 the metal in my barettes would set off the metal detector) - but somehow, 19 terrorists on 4 planes managed to walk onboard with them.
As far as Bush telling people the truth - which truth was it again that explains the preemptive attack on a country which had nothing to with 9/11 - while letting the mastermind of 9/11 (bin Laden) and the country that is STILL funding Islamic terrorism (Saudi Arabia, also home of 15 of the 19 terrorists) off scot free?
And aren't we PROUD of a country that chooses torture of prisoners along with spying on Americans who might make a call to someone they know in another country? I almost forgot Bush's most telling statement regarding the Constitution (despite having sworn twice to observe, protect & defend it) "It's just a goddamned piece of paper".
Posted by Mary on August 23, 2007 06:38 AMYou never had it so good....your welcome!
Posted by Hank on August 23, 2007 06:56 AMThanks from over here too. I am just glowing that you are a UCMJ-felon (40+ years AWOLee, deserter, and guilty of illegal separation and discharge), Hitler style exterminator of Arabs, and you hired Judge Alito, anohter UCMJ-felon. A leopard doesn't change his spots. When NAM broke out, you broke for Barbara's dress-tail, and when America was attacked on 9/11 in the "EAST", true to form, you flew AF1 "WEST".
Posted by centennialslavebehinddacottoncurtain on August 23, 2007 07:03 AMMike D...Will you pleeeeaase just go to sleep! Your non-sensical rants are starting to get to me.
Posted by on August 23, 2007 07:14 AMCan't wait to hear what you all will be thankful for under the dems, should we be unfortunate enough to have thier oh so great leadership. Higher taxes, sharia law, loss of rights (we are looseing more civil rights under dem leadership then ever before. All in the name of it is healthy i.e. smoking, fast food decisions, what we can or can't drive.)
More corruption in government that is never looked into. Blaming Bush and conservatives for years of corruoption in Louisianna and not carring for the dykes. Jefferson and his fridge full of money. Murtha accepting bribes from foriegn elements and governments. Boxer, Pelosi hireing of illegals and being anti union in thier private buisnesses. support of sanctuary and favoring illegals over citizens.
A rise in foreclosures by alowing corrupt buisnesses to scam people into baloon payments that are not afordable. (consumer beware). Yep can not wait to see how you spin this as a neocon fault. Weve been under democratic leadership for over a year and things are going downhill as congress and the senate pursue political payback. A rise in useless spending, and more welfare proposals for illegals all the while ignoreing citizens. Yeppers can not wait to see what to be thankful next.
Refuseall to protect this countries southern and northern boarder ... look at the votes on all the bills.
Oh boy can not wait. Ohg shoot what am I saying. The msm will have spun it into being a mas conspirocy theory like 9/11 blamming it as an inside job. More then likely William F. Buckley to be at the center of it.
Posted by on August 23, 2007 07:23 AMKeith you need to shut up and sign up.
Posted by on August 23, 2007 07:28 AMMary, really now. Come up with something original... We allowed Torture? I'm pretty sure we prosecuted those found in violation in Abu Ghraib. That is not "allowing" it.
The attack on Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. In fact, 9/11 never appears in any of the 21 resolutions. And the "spying program deals with calls that come in from OUTSIDE the country. Don'tcha feel better now?
Certainly, most of the hijackers came from Saudi Arabia... but the government there did not send them. Should we carpet bomb the state of Montana because the Unabomber was from there? I'd love to see the proof you seem to be hoarding that Saudi Arabia is sponsoring the terrorist..... still waiting....
The rise in foreclosures is due to the government? Can't the people ever be blamed for their own stupidity? I was offered a loan like that once.... I said no... see, it's easy. Why in the world do you blame the government for some people being stupid and buying a home they could not really afford.
And 40acres, you need to up the medicine dosage.
Posted by Dravur on August 23, 2007 07:38 AMIt shows how confused you are if you think the housing market has anything to do with what party is in power. The rise in foreclosures is due to people not paying their mortgage.
Posted by Larry on August 23, 2007 07:42 AMThanks Mr Bush for allowing us to be attacked on 9/11 and losing 3500 American lives. Thanks Mr Bush for not going after the terrorists and instead starting the Iraq War and losing another 3600 dead Americans because of your ego. Thanks Mr Bush for not raiosing taxes but borrowing so much that our kids and grad kids will pay even more ridiculous taxes to repay those loans (and being able to blame the Dems for raiosing taxes to pay them). Thanks Mr Bush for ignoring the poor in this country, ignoring socail programs in the US and yet dumping 4.5 billion into Wall Street ( guess the rich bankers werent rich enough).
Posted by Thankful on August 23, 2007 07:46 AMDear Mr. President.
Thanks for instituting the recommendations of the Project For A New American Century.
Thanks for defecating on the Constitution.
Thanks for selling out the USA.
Thanks for being the whipping boy for those who actually run this country.
Thanks for setting up UBL on a secret tropical island with medical care.
Thanks for guiding this nation towards the North American Union.
Thanks for allowing the invasion of our nation by illegal aliens to continue unabated.
Thanks for gutting this nations prosperity.
Thanks for ripping us off at the pump, to the benefit of all your oil buddies.
Thanks for calling anything that doesn't agree with your stories about 9/11, whacko conspiracy theories.
Thanks for providing us all with so many things to chat about on this forum.
The people who keep trying to paint our current economy as bleak sure do love to throw the foreclosure news out there at every possible turn.
What they fail to see is over the last several years, and because of the ease in obtaining a mortgage, total homeownership has increased dramatically.
While the total number of foreclosures is up, the percentage of all homeowners actually in forecloser is pretty much the same as it was 10 years ago.
Posted by KW on August 23, 2007 08:39 AMMike D. and Thankful,
As usual, liberals find fault but never give a solution.
How did Bush “allow” 9/11? What could he have done to prevent it?
Bill Clinton was in office for 38 days when the first attack on the World Trade Center happened. Would you also say that he “allowed” that attack to happen? Would you say that he didn’t listen to the presidential daily briefs of terror threats?
In fact, during the Clinton years Islamic terrorists attacked Americans or American interests ten times. In one very important incidence in the fall of 1998, Clinton drug his feet so long that a prime opportunity to catch or kill Osama bin Laden was lost. For the first hour of a two-hour window of opportunity Clinton would not even return phone calls from Sandy Berger. Bin Laden was in full view in our crosshairs and Clinton couldn't be bothered. Then when he finally got around to talking to Berger, Clinton wanted to “study” the situation and discuss the matter with his secretaries of state and defense rather than seize the opportunity that was place directly into his lap. Bin Laden got away and three years later we had 9/11.
The intelligence given to Bush pertaining to terror threats was sketchy at best. It almost always is, no matter who is the sitting president. How was Bush supposed to know just which date the terrorists were going to hijack planes and crash them into buildings? How was he supposed to know that it was going to be commercial airliners that would be used and not private airplanes? How was he supposed to know from which airports the planes would be departing?
I’m presuming, of course, that you two actually have answers to these questions.
What was Bush supposed to do; shut down the entire country? And for how long? Some people are outraged that we have certain security measures now AFTER 9/11. Think how people would’ve totally lost their corks had Bush implemented those measures before 9/11. You two would be right up there with the rest calling for his head, just as you are now.
You cannot have it both ways, no matter how hard you try.
And as someone already explained, foreclosures are the result of people not paying the mortgages they agreed to pay. How is that Bush’s fault? Oh yeah, I forgot. Every single thing that goes wrong is his fault.
And before I forget, thanks for saving us in Florida from that global warming nut who is now living large by selling his company's carbon credits. And thanks again for saving us from that less than honorably discharged Swiftboater who shot himself in his own ass and then put himself up for medals. Thanks, we owe you.
Posted by Hank on August 23, 2007 08:44 AMLarry , the people could not pay their mortgages because----------------?
Posted by Allen Campbell on August 23, 2007 08:48 AMThere really can't be a single reason as to why. I suspect that a number of them simply don't want to. But I'll give my two cents on it. The major factor in the foreclosures is the "sub prime" loans that were offered. Loans given out to those with really bad credit and couldn't afford the payments of an "on the level" loan. These were considered high risk, but the payback from them could have given some hefty profits. There were a few that I saw that just simply didn't pay and got foreclosed on. While the easy answer is because of the economy, it's never really that easy. Most people had something else to pay for.
Posted by Larry on August 23, 2007 08:57 AMHmmm...either that, or people have lost their jobs, and can't afford their mortgage. Or, maybe their good paying manufacturing job was outsourced, and now they're working for $8 an hour at walmart, and now can't afford their mortgages.
You ever consider that, larry?
"I suspect that a number of them simply don't want to"
Are you f'king kidding me? They just don't want to pay their mortgage? You can't be that stupid, larry.
Posted by Tbone on August 23, 2007 09:20 AMThat's why I said "there are many reasons". If me seeing it personally is me being stupid, then I guess I am stupid home steak.
Posted by Larry on August 23, 2007 09:30 AMTo all you meatballs above another report came out two days ago proving that clinton was responsible for 9/11 and all the other attacks during the 90's.You idiots always by pass factual information and go staight to the liberal spin doctor.
Posted by Keith on August 23, 2007 09:42 AMAllen - Larry is correct when saying there are many reasons for people not paying their mortgages.
If, as you say, this was primarily due to poeple losing their jobs, both the percentage of total homeowners in foreclusure and unemplyment rates would be much, much higher.
As I stated earlier, percentage of total homeowners in foreclosure has remained steady and in some areas even decreased over the last ten years.
It's the media who choose to look only at the number of filings while ignoring percentage. It makes for better eye grabbing headlines.
Posted by KW on August 23, 2007 09:54 AMFortyacres you've changed your name! Now if you would just change your rhetoric.
Posted by Its justme on August 23, 2007 10:02 AMWhat poof do you have keith and was the report from repulicans seeking a way out of being held responsible for any part of what happend on 9/1l. And going way back to the Cliton administration to fix blame for what happen a short time ago in the Bush administration is like saying the George Washinton administration was responsible for the War of 1812.
Posted by Allen Campbell on August 23, 2007 10:09 AMHey Keith,
So far, there is silence on this thread pertaining to Clinton's ineptitude in dealing with bin Laden.
Many are quick to lay blame on Bush for 9/11 since he was president at the time, but conveniently forget that Clinton was in office during several terror attacks, particularly the first attack on the World Trade Center. Notice they don’t hammer him on that? Notice the conspiracy crowd doesn’t accuse Clinton of “allowing” that attack and others that took place under his watch? Notice they don’t drum up a scandal that Clinton was directly involved in those terror attacks the way they have accuse Bush of doing for 9/11?
On April 17, 1995, while Clinton was in office the Alfred P. Murrah federal building was bombed. Notice that nobody has ever asked what Bill Clinton knew about it and when he knew it?
Posted by Mountain Cat on August 23, 2007 10:16 AMKW. No where in anything I've written did I even suggests foreclosures were the result of people losing their jobs. It is the greed of mortgage companies and the people who are deceived, if not actually scamed, into applying for little down, initial low payment loans that take a big hike in payments after that initial low payment lure time is up. The buyer takes the loss and the mortgage company gets to resell the house, sometimes three or four times, before luckily and connivingly finding an actually qualified buyer. This is the hidden statistic in foreclosure ratings.
Posted by Allen Campbell on August 23, 2007 10:35 AMTo all you meatballs above another report came out two days ago proving that clinton was responsible for 9/11 and all the other attacks during the 90's.You idiots always by pass factual information and go staight to the liberal spin doctor.
Posted by Keith
Keith you are a real hoot. You are just cracking me up.Could you imagine if anyone really thought like this?
Posted by just sayin' on August 23, 2007 10:38 AMWell, the entirely predictable lunatic ravings from the "progressive" front here are tiresome and not really worth responding to.
However, I do find it amusing when dolts with agendas have a go at the Bush Administration for not preventing 9/11. Those of you with half a clue must surely recognize that there is a universe of difference between informed speculation and ACTIONABLE INTELLIGENCE. If this administration had attempted to institute the safeguards, procedures, programs, and laws that would have enabled us to make the leap to actually apprehending Mohammed Atta & friends before they reached the check-in counters, you'd still have been shrieking about "civil liberties" and how Bush is "defecating on the Constitution," in the eloquent words of one of the MENSA members here.
My free advice to you cretins is to shut it before the Jackbooted Brownshirts of the Bu$hCheneyHalliburton Neocon Cabal come for you. You're welcome.
Posted by GoesTo11 on August 23, 2007 10:42 AMWow!! I just cannot believe that it took the moronic drivel spewed from keith, complete with insults, misspellings, and outright lies, to make me see that the republics are right after all! I am now going to burn my ACLU card, democratic party registration card, and the entire city of Boulder to further the glorious republic cause and to advance the glory of our Dear and Beloved Leader. While I am at it, I am going to ask everyone I see on the street their political affiliation, and if they answer wrong, I am going to shout "TRAITOR!!!" and kill them on the spot. I was so naive and wrong to think that any sort of dissent could be even remotely american. I now see the conservative's truth: Fascism, it is the New American Way!!
Mmm, meatballs . . .
Posted by Knucklehead on August 23, 2007 10:45 AMKW, RE: Economy:
Real wages have dropped for the last 5 years. This has only happened 6 times since the end of WWII.
You do the math.
Posted by Charles B on August 23, 2007 10:47 AM"And thanks again for saving us from that less than honorably discharged Swiftboater who shot himself in his own ass and then put himself up for medals."
When will you be enlisting Hank?
Posted by Charles B on August 23, 2007 10:50 AMAnd we have him to thank for Keith. If someone else was president , Keith might have nothing to say. (sarcasm)
Posted by Sharon B. on August 23, 2007 10:50 AMWow! A mere three minutes after I warn of the Brownshirts, the "fascism" card is in play! You guys are getting quicker on the draw.
Oh, and Allen Campbell...Don't be bringin' your irrelevant facts around here. Don't you realize that it's all Bu$h's fault and we need the Democrat Nanny State to save us from ourselves???
Posted by GoesTo11 on August 23, 2007 10:58 AMNice way to flatter yourself, GoesTo11. Your post wasn't even on the screen yet when I wrote mine. How will you find a way to make an ass of yourself next? Hmm . . .
Posted by Knucklehead on August 23, 2007 11:05 AMIsn't fascism where the corporations are so powerful that they basically run a countrys governmental policy?
Posted by on August 23, 2007 11:06 AMAnd Mountain Cat,it's a documented fact that Bin Laden started planning the attack in 96.And it is a documented fact that in clintons first term he gutted the C.I.A. and military because it was obvious to him this country really didn't need them.So I will write slow enough and used terms that the liberals can understand.Say you buy your wife a new mercedes in 93.You would give her money to change the oil regularly and other maintenence.But instead she spent the money on crack.After 8 years you give the car to your son.He drives it for a few months and it blows up.But his mother tells his father she did everything in her power to maintain and it's the sons fault.Get it!
Posted by Keith on August 23, 2007 11:16 AMKnucklehead: Self-flattery is hardly necessary with clueless, hysterical gits abounding here. I'll give you credit, if you insist, for clairvoyance, as well as a highly appropriate nic.
Posted by GoesTo11 on August 23, 2007 11:21 AMOK, I retract my statement Bush allowed 9/11 to happen, he was President at the time and I personally don't think he did enough to protect our country. It just drives me crazy when paople say he has protected us against terrorism when the largest attack ever on US soil happened under his watch. If a guard is watching a bank and nothing happens under his shift, then when the following guard is 2 hours into his shift when the bank gets robbed is it the first guards fault? Now some will call me a conspiracy theorist for asking this but why were no planes scrambled when 4 major airliners went off course? Does anybody know?
Posted by Mike D. on August 23, 2007 11:23 AMAllen Campbell:
"KW. No where in anything I've written did I even suggests foreclosures were the result of people losing their jobs"
Sorry Allen. Somehow I read TBones post and attributed it to you.
Charles B:
"KW, Real wages have dropped for the last 5 years"
As CB likes to snipe on a daily basis...
PROVE IT!
And I don't mean with a liberal opinion piece piece or fuzzy liberal math recalculation either.
Something credible will be required.
Posted by KW on August 23, 2007 11:27 AMWhat the hell am I doing wasting my time with a bunch of talking-point spouting zombies like you all? I have a Rockies game to go to. Have a -um- day, everyone, and try to get out of your mommy's basements for a while today.
Posted by Knucklehead on August 23, 2007 11:29 AMMike D: No fighters were scrambled initially b/c until the first impact, authorities were operating under the assumption that they were dealing with a "nominal" hijacking. That is, they expected the terrorists to divert the aircraft to other destinations, land, and make demands. The notion that they were on a suicide mission never occured to anyone in a position of authority until it was too late.
In any case, even after ANG F-16's were scrambled, the rules of engagement at the tim did NOT give them the option of firing on passenger airliners over US territory. The whole response was, first and foremost, a failure of imagination, a point that has been made many times by many people.
Posted by GoesTo11 on August 23, 2007 11:37 AMEnjoy the game, Knucklehead. Are you pitching or catching?
Posted by GoesTo11 on August 23, 2007 11:41 AMA very famous president once said the buck stops here. But Bush says the buck stops over there.
Posted by larrymc on August 23, 2007 11:41 AMNeither, GoesTo11, I am going to be in the stands. That laudable conservative "intelligence" strikes again!
Posted by Knucklehead on August 23, 2007 11:44 AMIf Repulicans want to thank Bush for us not being attacked since 9/11, they have to give him credit for letting us be attaked on 9/11. You also have to thank Clinton for keeping us safe after the 1st Trade Center attack and all the way up to 9/11 which was under GW's watch.
Posted by The Anti Keith on August 23, 2007 11:55 AMFascism is the demand for uniform thought.
Posted by on August 23, 2007 12:03 PMReading the above posts , it is no wonder that our country is full of morons and our rulers in washington lie and steal from us at every chance they get.
this country is a waste now because people are too stupid to come together and THINK for themselves and compromise .
Posted by Fresh on August 23, 2007 12:03 PMYou are the anti-keith,you just showed how stupid you are on your 11:55 post.
Posted by Keith on August 23, 2007 12:13 PMGoesTo11 - I think knucklehead didn't quite understand your pitching/catching question.
Which means they're probably more comfortable to catching.
Posted by KW on August 23, 2007 12:22 PMKW: I think you're right. Things tend to go over a person's head when they've got it planted...Well, you know.
Posted by GoesTo11 on August 23, 2007 12:34 PMYes KW,knucklehead is difinitely a catcher.
Posted by on August 23, 2007 12:43 PMGoes to 11,
I appreciate your response, it sounds reasonable and I understand the rules of engagement, lack of imagination etc. But to have 4 airliners all off course and nobody knowing what to do. Wasn't the protocol changed under Bush? Before the Bush administration didn't traffic control operators have the authority to contact military operations if something strange were happeing? But after Bush didn't they have to get the OK from Bush, Cheney or someone in the administration? Didn't they change the protocol?
Posted by Mike D. on August 23, 2007 12:52 PMFresh,
you have a good point and I agree with you, it is in the best interest of those in charge to keep us seperated, this way they keep the power. It won't be until we can put our differences aside and come together that we the American people will take back what is rightfully ours. We forget these people work for us.. I enjoy debating and conversing with those that don't always agree with me that is why we all do this isn't it? I try to keep it civil and ask genuine questions because I want to know the why's and what's of those that don't always agree.
Posted by Mike D. on August 23, 2007 12:58 PMGo to11, from now on until I chanvgwe err--- change my mind. I swear an oath to, ahhh to somebody I know , that I will not involve My self with clear thinking any more nor will I express any opinion that disagrees with anyone's preconceived notion.
I'll just shoot them for the unamerican filth they are in thinking about Bush not being the second coming of Alfred E. Ne, strike that, I mean Ja-ezzzzz-us -ah caaah-ricest -ah.
Posted by Allen Campbell on August 23, 2007 01:15 PMAllen Campbell,
What happened? Did someone touch a sensitive spot of your ego? Do you really think it is justified to resort to such play ground mentality name calling and insulting of someone's beliefs? Shame on you!
Yo Hank, Stuckey, and Keith: You need to channel on PBS and click programs like Frontline to get the facts which those dumbcrats don't know. In the last 8 months, Bush says 12,000 Al Qaeda have been captured; in Iraq 75 helicopters have been lost with many to accidents while the Iraqi patriots (terrorists) get better weapons and better accuracy due to Bush policy which delivers less than half the humvees resistant to IED attack. Bush has built 16 prisons which have become defacto boot camps because the prisoners were neutral when imprisoned. Guys: "defacto" means "in fact." There are so many facts. You can get Frontline on line. Those "democraps" don't know nothing, not even that god got to be god because “The impotence of God is infinite.”
Posted by jvd on August 23, 2007 02:34 PMThe Anti-Keith wrote:
“You also have to thank Clinton for keeping us safe after the 1st Trade Center attack and all the way up to 9/11 which was under GW's watch.”
Uh, maybe you didn’t realize that the Oklahoma City bombing that I mentioned (the Alfred P. Murrah federal building) happened on April 17, 1995 which was AFTER the first World Trade Center bombing (Thursday, October 28, 1993). Shortly before the first World Trade Center bombing there was a gun attack on CIA employees at Langley, Virginia. In 1995, after the first World Trade Center bombing, there was a bombing of the U.S. military complex in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. The Khobar Towers bombing occurred in 1996. The bombings of the U.S. Embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania happened in 1998. The U.S.S. Cole was bombed in Yemen in 2000.
Who was president during the time those attacks took place?
My point is that if people want to start pointing fingers at Bush for not doing enough to prevent 9/11 then they must be intellectually honest enough to also point fingers at Clinton for not doing enough to prevent all the attacks that happened under his watch.
I’ve said it before and I will probably be compelled to say it again; I am not a huge fan of George W. Bush. I just hate unfair accusations.
Here is an interesting idea: Let’s blame the people who actually committed those atrocities! Or should we not blame the Scary Brown People, as Paul Campos would put it, even though it is a fact that they are the ones who are truly responsible.
Mike D.
I’m still waiting for answers to the questions I posed to you. All you have said is that you retract your statement that Bush allowed 9/11 to happen and that you don’t think he did enough to protect our country. What the heck do you think he should have done that would have been enough to protect us from 9/11?
Knucklehead sure did pick an appropriate name for himself.
Posted by on August 23, 2007 04:31 PMKeith:
Just what ae those so called mistakes made by the corrupt Clinton Administration that Bush ahs fixed? Also, who will fix the horrendous mistakes of the current administration?
Mike D.:
Another note on the economy. It was recently disclosed that the average salary is about 2% less now than in 2000. But the Bushies describe the economy in terms of the stock market, and salaries and costs of living have nothing to do with it.
GoesTo11,
Love the name.
Posted by Mike on August 23, 2007 09:22 PMIt almost makes sense
1 have illegals pour into the country
2 make them U.S. citizens
3 let them reproduce in tremendous amounts
4 pass the mandatory draft
5 have huge army in only 20 years
6 go to war again
7 make money off war
the Anti Keith---
You have to be kidding with your Clinton worship. The first thing Clinton did when he got into office was mess with the don't ask, don't tell policy in the military. Now was that the most important issue in the country at the time? Hell no. That set the tone for the rest of his useless administration.
Clinton enjoyed the benefits of the Reagand and Bush 1 tax cuts that created the economy he inherited until he put in the largest tax increase in American history. That started the bubble bursting in the tech stocks just in time for Bush to take over AND get hit by 911 (caused by Clinton ignoring previous terrorist attacks - african embassy bomgings, the cole bombing, first WTC attack, etc.). And to top it off he does the nasty with an intern, on the job, at the work site.
And stop perpetuating the garbage about Bush lying about WMD. The UN inspectors found WMD all over Iraq and photgraphed & tagged them. When the U.S. went in Saddam hid them. Love that amnesia you liberals have. Or is it that you weren't born before Clinton was president and don't know any different?
Try Jimmy Carter. W isn't a great president by any means but he's definitely not as bad as Jimmy Carter was.
Bill & Hillary, 1970
BILL CLINTON's MILITARY CAREER
Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Selective Service Number is 3 26 46 228.
Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.
Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.
Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.
Bill Clinton refuses to report and is not inducted into the military.
Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07, 1969, under authority of Col. E. Holmes.
Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment. Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.
Bill Clinton reclassified 1- A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Col. E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2)(a) registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction.
Bill Clinton's birthdate lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction is INELIGIBLE!
Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.
Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive from justice.
Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977, from President Carter.
Bill Clinton becomes the FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President of the United States.
All these facts come from Freedom of Information requests, public laws, and various books that have been published, and have not been refuted by Clinton.
After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
Maybe if Clinton had kept those promises, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington, DC. who are now dead would be alive today.
THINK ABOUT IT! It is a strange turn of events. Hillary gets $8 million for her forthcoming memoir. Bill gets about $12 million for his memoir yet to be written. This from two people who spent 8 years being unable to recall anything about past events while under oath.
Sincerely,
Cdr. Hamilton McWhorter USN (ret)
drew - the reason your hero Clinton never had "legal" problems beyond his stain on a blue dress, he knew how to cover his transgressions better than the Republicans.
Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many "friends" of the Clintons.
1-James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown . The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3- Vince Foster - Former White House counselor and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.
5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992
6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".
7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas .
10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiance of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiance, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiance.
13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14-Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16-Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22-Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.
23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was no accident.
24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.
27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.
29-Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31-Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
33-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes".
34-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
35-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
36 -Major William S. Barkley Jr.
37-Captain Scott J . Reynolds
38-Sgt. Brian Hanley
39-Sgt. Tim Sabel
40-Major General William Robertson
41-Col. William Densberger
42-Col. Robert Kelly
43-Spec. Gary Rhodes
44-Steve Willis
45-Robert Williams
46-Conway LeBleu
47-Todd McKeehan
Why does the Twilight Zone theme keep running through my head when I read this thread?
Posted by Charles B on August 24, 2007 06:42 AMChristian Conspiracy:
Apparently ,sarcastic humor escapes your perception, else you would understand what I wrote was an answer to a equally tounge in cheek comment posted by Goo11, I mean Go11. And, The phonetically contrived spelling of Jesus Christ is nothing more than an attempt to emulate how some, mostly Southern Baptist, preachers stretch the sylables of that name out in such a way as to turn a two sylable word into a four sylable word followed by changing a one sylable word into a another four sylable word. If i was making fun of anything it was the technique used and certainly not the name.
In any case though, don't you think you're the one being overly sensitive in focusing on and obviously sarcastic humor driven statement. My God,( is that blasphemy too and, if so, why do Christian preachers who use it all the time and get away with it ), if your belief is so tenuous that it requires defending from such trivial things as a phonetically strecthed name, which I believe, in and of it's self, is no blasphemy but, if it is,well then there are just a whole bunch of preachers going to hell someday, then I suggest, no offense meant, that you need a more leassons about what faith really is. Hope I didn't rock your boat to much and try to have a nice day,in spite of all the sin and sinners that seem to surrond you on a daily basis.
Posted by Allen Campbell on August 24, 2007 06:49 AMSorry for the errors, I was wrapped up in the moment, as it were.
Posted by Allen Campbell on August 24, 2007 06:54 AMExplain goesto11 to me.
Posted by Sharon B. on August 24, 2007 07:20 AMCharles B.
Because you ARE in the Twilight Zone.
Posted by on August 24, 2007 08:11 AMSharon B.-
It is a reference to a line in the movie Spinal Tap.
Posted by Get Real on August 24, 2007 09:04 AMSharon B.-
Specifically ,in a hilarious scene , Chris Guest tries to explain the calibration of the volume knobs on their amps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akaD9v460yI
"drew - the reason your hero Clinton never had "legal" problems beyond his stain on a blue dress, he knew how to cover his transgressions better than the Republicans"
Anonymously verbose at 12:41:
I don't recall contributing anything to this thread (unless my Alzheimer's is kicking in). Are you responding to phantom postings or are the voices in your head clouding your judgement?
Anonymously verbose at 12:41:
But while we're on this topic.
Your list is impressive. But Bill & Hillary are even more impressive. Imagine the multi-tasking skills one must have to be able as president/first lady to organize and personally direct (or personally carry out) the slaughter of 47 people! Imagine the talent it takes to have someone put a bullet in Ron Brown's head & at the same time engineer a plane crash so it doesn't look suspicious!
Not only that but at the same time operate a huge money laundering empire, import and distribute cocaine (and coordinate with the U.N.'s black helicopters to have it dropped off), have huge drug-induced orgies, organize with your bodyguards to have prostitutes brought in several times a week and more!
And now it turns out Hillary was seen in New York City the same week as 911! Oh, oh - better get Ken Starr on that case!
Man, those Clintons sure get stuff done! Impressive!
Posted by drew on August 24, 2007 09:48 AM11:39 pm, you may be more correct than you think.
Co. McWhorter, thanks for the info!
12:41 You have just exposed what is likely to happen to anyone who comes to close to exposing the truth about those in high places, whether they be republican or democrat.
WOW!
Beam me up, Scotty! Now I KNOW there is no intelligent life on this planet!
Posted by Old Grouch on August 24, 2007 10:05 AMSomebody please give O.G. back his Depends.
Posted by on August 24, 2007 10:18 AMOG:
You,and maybe I, will be the only beamees. It takes intellegence to know when and where there is none. That is why the rest of them will stay on planet earth while we go where no man has gone before. Please remind me, if I am to go, to take some cases of very old scotch whiskey with me, going where no man has gone before is hard work and I'm sure the watering places are probably few and far between.
Allen Campbell,
Oh for the days of 100 Proof Old Forester! Welcome aboard!
We'll have to navigate our way through Jonesy's LaLa-Oz-Land; and past John 2's Petrified Constitution Park, of course; and avoid the Stuckey Meteroite Swarm on the way as well. But the adventure will certainly be good fun.
And maybe we'll even find a place where there is some reason, judgment, evidence, and fact used in discussions.
Warp Speed Ahead!
Posted by Old Grouch on August 24, 2007 01:01 PMCongratulations Mr. Burdick. I've never seen this many post on a single subject in such a short time. You got the pot stirred really good!
Posted by Stan Broyles on August 24, 2007 03:43 PMre 12:41 Anon
I had to post that one anonymously as I feared drew would turn me into the Clinton Protection Society and have me whacked (by apparent suicide, gunshot to the back of head) for publicly revealing that which should not be shown the light of day.
Not paranoid, just realistic...
Posted by on August 24, 2007 06:19 PM12:41 post,there is about 50 others who died that could of brought down that corrupted clinton.clinton like Al Capone was brought down by a small infraction,Capone by income evasion,clinton by a fat girl.
Posted by Keith on August 24, 2007 06:44 PMOH MY Keith, how devestating a comment about Clinton who, no doubt, is the only president who had affairs while in office. I'm sure that every pristine and oh so right Republican president never, ever indulged in any kind of tryst with a fat, slim, or any other kind of women. Certainly all the evidence to the contrary was fabricated by no good lying democrats. Yes , yes, I see now my mind must have been tainted by liberal propaganda and the republicans, who are the only morally and ethically people and all others are sinners and depraved criminals. Thanks for opening my eyes to that. I don't know how I could of been so blind, except I need you to explain one thing: If the republicans are all alike in their greatness isn't there a chance, be it ever so small, that they aren't human after all, but are are clones of brain dead, truth denying and totaly clueless aliens.
Posted by Allen Campbell on August 25, 2007 10:14 AMallen campbell,obviously my post was above your learning capacity.Society needed to impeach this corrupt president which ever way they could.They you think he was known as slick willie.He would have people eliminated who could testified against him on his criminal activities like Al Capone.Any one with a IQ over 71 would of understand my post,so your IQ must be under 71.
Posted by Keith on August 25, 2007 11:00 AMI think you meant "would HAVE UNDERSTOOD". However, you don't put spaces after puncuation marks, either.
Before you criticize someone's intelligence, you could at least improve your grammar.
Yes Mr. President thank you! but next time will you use K-Y Jelly?
Posted by Terry on August 26, 2007 12:22 PMTerry,
You said ..not more I can say.
Posted by on August 26, 2007 06:47 PMJay,
All The Thanks was really funny..BUT TRUE!
Posted by on August 27, 2007 07:18 PMrp mcmurphy,You had to much shock treatment.
Posted by Keith on August 28, 2007 09:32 AM