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Bush’s hypocrisy
Saturday, September 15 at 2:00 PM

Ken Keller of Broomfield writes:

How does George Bush spell hyprocisy...grandstanding in North Korea in an attempt to force them to disarm their nuclear program while American Air Force pilots fly armed nuclear Advanced Cruise Missiles from North Dakota to Louisana. No, I’m not anti-American: I am a veteran from a long line of veterans including a nephew currently serving in the 82nd Airborne in Afghanistan.
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READER COMMENTS

Bush's hypocrisy knows no bounds. I remeber he once stated we would not get involved in nation building, he also stated this is the administration of accountability!!!!

Posted by Mike D. on September 15, 2007 02:10 PM

I don't understand your point? A maniac Kim Jong Il having nuclear weapons is reasonable to you? You must've been one in the long line of "veterans" that supported Jane Fonda. Have a nice day, and please don't forget your anti-psychotic meds.

Posted by mike h on September 15, 2007 02:33 PM

mike h,

Don't be so hard on Kim he's a great guy to keep us scared, he's a terrific evil boogeyman. Plus since we are the only country to ever use nuclear weapons on another country shouldn't we be the only country with them? Aren't we the only ones to ever use them responsibly?

Posted by Karl Cheney on September 15, 2007 02:39 PM

I've heard he's a sweet, kindly ol' gentleman that starves his people to death, locks citizens up for not following every iota of his mantra, and lobs missiles over Japan just for fun. I'm sure it fill liberals and the "veterans" (Ken and Jane) hearts with pride to make sure that NK and Iran are allowed to have nukes so we can keep things equitable. Please keep up the good fight so that everyone can get them, oh yeah, maybe we should give some to the libs greatest freedom fighter, Hugo Chavez.

Posted by mike h on September 15, 2007 02:45 PM

mike h,

Do you have your fallout shelter ready? Are your supplies up to date for the nuclear winter? And you call others paranoid!!!
But then why hasn't Bush invaded? Obviously he is worse than Saddam, he actually has nukes we know that. So why haven't we invaded to lberate these people to have a democracy? Oh ya, there is no oil there and we would get our asses kicked!!

Posted by Mike D. on September 15, 2007 02:56 PM

mike h,

We invaded Iraq which was a soverign country!!! But that was fine with you! We can barely hold our own in Iraq with a moron as president and you think we can handle a billion people with nukes?
And if you believe they have dismantled their nuclear program you are in denial. Also why the name calling? You tough guy neo cons always spewing out the bravado.

Posted by Mike D. on September 15, 2007 03:11 PM

That's right, I'm pretty tough. In fact, my middle name is Danger.

See ya Mike D. Have a wonderful day.

That was nice of me for having so much bravado, huh.

Posted by mike h on September 15, 2007 03:20 PM

mike h,

Well my middle name is Regnad (danger backwards).
See ya on the next post.

Posted by Mike D. on September 15, 2007 03:27 PM

Mike D.
I would have guessed your middle name was sselenips drawoc.

Posted by skeptical on September 15, 2007 04:32 PM

See,to the new progressive wing of the Dem party,guys like Chavez,Ahmadinejad and Kim are swell and responsible guys that are just misunderstood and have every right to obtain nuclear weapons. Why not Osama too?

You have to realize to them,Bush is the real terrorist.

Hell,61% of Dems either believe that Bush knew about 911 beforehand or "aren't sure".

You must keep this flawed perspective in mind when dealing with these idiots.

Posted by Get Real on September 15, 2007 06:32 PM

Lets take a closer look at this “...grandstanding in North Korea in an attempt to force them to disarm their nuclear program while American Air Force pilots fly armed nuclear Advanced Cruise Missiles from North Dakota to Louisana. “ – first, insisting that a rogue nation like NK to discontinue their nuclear program is grandstanding? And you sir, claim to be a veteran? A veteran of what? What a BS!
Than you claim that the Air Force flew armed nuclear missiles over US soil? Are you out of your mind, sir? Obviously you don’t know anything about Air Force procedures, missiles, and you are a bold faced liar.
That flight you talking about toke place from Minot AFB to Barksdale AFB to DECOMMISSION those missiles, and not armed, like you claim. Also these missiles (I assume you talking about the AGM-129) are armed in flight en route to target for several reasons I’m not gonna get into. These missiles are being retired by the Air Force and you use that as an example of grand standing and hypocrisy? That’s got to be one of the best examples of blundered posts. What did you think, that nobody knows anything about this? Idiot!

Posted by Uno on September 15, 2007 10:44 PM

It was clinton who used our taxpayers money to finance North Korea's nuclear program.

Posted by Keith on September 16, 2007 11:15 AM

Keith

Name any source material you have indicating Clinton. You make such outrages claims. It's time you backed them up.

Posted by Allen Campbell on September 16, 2007 11:46 AM

Allen,

Here it is, and it is outrages!

http://www.cnsnews.com/Pentagon/Archive/1998-2000/DEF20000417a.html

If you want more, google it.

Posted by Uno on September 16, 2007 12:54 PM

The article cited by UNO is not an analysis; it is an attack. It is not objective; it is rhetoric, in the meaning "the undue use of exaggeration or display; bombast".

An interested person could get a much more objective and detailed look as http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB87/nk24.pdf
which is a publication put out by the Congressional Research Service entitled North Korea's Nuclear Program, updated March 2003.

Here are some somewhat random excerpts:

"The heart of the Agreed Framework and the amending accords is a deal under which the
United States will provide North Korea with a package of nuclear, energy, economic, and
diplomatic benefits; in return North Korea will halt the operations and infrastructure
development of its nuclear program. The Agreed Framework commits North Korea to
“freeze its graphite-moderated reactors and related facilities” with the freeze to be monitored
by the IAEA. Ambassador Robert Gallucci, who negotiated for the United States, stated that
“related facilities” include the plutonium reprocessing plant and stored fuel rods. According
IB91141 03-17-03
CRS-10
to Gallucci, the freeze includes a halt to construction of the 50 and 200 megawatt reactors
and a North Korean promise not to refuel the five megawatt reactor. The Agreed Framework
also commits North Korea to store the 8,000 fuel rods removed from the five megawatt
reactor in May 1994 “in a safe manner that does not involve reprocessing in the DPRK
[North Korea].” Clinton Administration officials reportedly said that a secret “confidential
minute” to the Agreed Framework prohibits North Korea from construction of new nuclear
facilities elsewhere in North Korea.
Gallucci and other officials emphasized that the key policy objective of the Clinton
Administration was to secure a freeze of North Korea’s nuclear program in order to prevent
North Korea from producing large quantities of nuclear weapons grade plutonium through
the operations of the 50 and 200 megawatt reactors and the plutonium reprocessing plant at
Yongbyon. Gallucci referred to the prospect of North Korea producing enough plutonium
annually for nearly 30 nuclear weapons if the 50 and 200 megawatt reactors went into
operation. The Administration’s fear was that North Korea would have the means to export
atomic bombs to other states and possess a nuclear missile capability that would threaten
Japan and U.S. territories in the Pacific Ocean."

"North Korea is to receive two light water reactors
(LWRs) with a generating capacity of approximately 2,000 megawatts. The Agreed
Framework set a “target date” of 2003. The United States is obligated to organize an
international consortium arrangement for the acquisition and financing of the reactors. The
Clinton Administration and the governments of South Korea, Japan, and other countries
established in March 1995 the Korean Peninsula Energy Development Organization (KEDO)
to coordinate the provision of the LWRs. After the groundbreaking at the reactor site in
August 1997, KEDO officials changed the estimated completion date from 2003 to 2007;
other experts predict a much later date. The laying of the foundation for the LWRs occurred
in August 2002."

"KEDO’s estimated cost of the reactors is currently around $5 billion. South Korea is
to supply the reactors through a South Korean company as the main contractor; and South
Korea and Japan will provide most of the financing. An agreement reached by KEDO
members on November 9, 1998, set South Korea’s contribution at $3.22 billion, Japan’s
contribution at $1 billion, and the European Union’s contribution at $76 million."

"In late 2002, Clinton
Administration officials disclosed that in 1994, the Administration had approved a Pentagon
plan to bomb Yongbyon to prevent reprocessing of the fuel rods."

"North Korea’s decisions [during the Bush administration] to restart nuclear
installations at Yongbyon that were shut down
under the U.S.-North Korean Agreed Framework
of 1994 and withdraw from the Nuclear
Non-Proliferation Treaty create an acute
foreign policy problem for the United States."

"The Bush Administration disclosed on October 16, 2002, that North Korea had revealed
to U.S. Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly in Pyongyang that it was conducting a secret
nuclear weapons program based on the process of uranium enrichment. North Korea
admitted the program in response to U.S. evidence presented by Kelly."

"By their own admission, Bush Administration officials were surprised by the intensity
of North Korea’s moves in late December 2002 to re-start nuclear facilities at Yongbyon and
expel officials of the International Atomic Energy Agency placed there under the U.S.-North
Korean Agreed Framework of 1994 to monitor the shutdown. North Korea announced that
it would re-start the small, five megawatt nuclear reactor shut down under the Agreed
Framework and resume construction of two larger reactors that was frozen under the
agreement. The reactor began operating in February 2003. It also announced that it would
re-start the plutonium reprocessing plant that operated up to 1994. It withdrew from the
Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) in January 2003."

"The Administration stressed in January 2003 that the United States would
not attack North Korea; this was in response to North Korea’s repeated charge that the
United States planned a pre-emptive attack and to concerns voiced by China, Russia, and
South Korea."

"North Korea is to receive two light water reactors
(LWRs) with a generating capacity of approximately 2,000 megawatts. The Agreed
Framework set a “target date” of 2003. The United States is obligated to organize an
international consortium arrangement for the acquisition and financing of the reactors. The
Clinton Administration and the governments of South Korea, Japan, and other countries
established in March 1995 the Korean Peninsula Energy Development Organization (KEDO)
to coordinate the provision of the LWRs. After the groundbreaking at the reactor site in
August 1997, KEDO officials changed the estimated completion date from 2003 to 2007;
other experts predict a much later date. The laying of the foundation for the LWRs occurred
in August 2002."

Posted by Truth on September 16, 2007 03:54 PM

Letter writer Ken Keller shows how the mind of a liberal Democrat works.He thinks every nut leader in the world should have the same power we have.He thinks it is not"fair" for our country to have bigger bombs than some communist dictator.This is how the Democrats think but isn't it funny that when it comes to guns they want to ban all Americans from owning them and keep all the guns in the hands of our government.This is the "new" Democrat party.

Posted by An American on September 16, 2007 05:47 PM

An American, you should sober up before you post.

Posted by Truth on September 16, 2007 06:15 PM

truth,where in the f--k did you find that f--king false information.This sounds like the same source these idiots that sayBush is responsible for 9/11.

Posted by Keith on September 16, 2007 08:00 PM

truth,where in the f--k did you find that f--king false information.This sounds like the same source these idiots that sayBush is responsible for 9/11.

Posted by Keith on September 16, 2007 08:00 PM

truth,where in the f--k did you find that f--king false information.This sounds like the same source these idiots that sayBush is responsible for 9/11.

Posted by Keith on September 16, 2007 08:00 PM

Keith, I really get a kick out of your posts. They are very funny.

But maybe you should quit reading my excellent posts since they are so upsetting to you.

I provided a reference to the source of my information., but I don't think that doing research is something that interests you.

Posted by Truth on September 16, 2007 09:01 PM

So uno's link is not correct information?
Why do the Democrat Candidates pander to thedailykos and moveon? Nothing they print is true ,but the Democrats and left wing liberals believe them.

I'm wondering what each of these websites,have in the closet of the democratic candidates.
You know George Soros has something to have them in his grasps.

Posted by Can I get an AMEN! on September 17, 2007 08:19 AM

It's about the oil, fool...

Greenspan, in his new book, "The Age of Turbulence: Adventures in a New World," echoed long-held complaints of many critics that a key motivating force in the war is to maintain U.S. access to the rich oil supplies in Iraq.

"Whatever their publicized angst over Saddam Hussein's 'weapons of mass destruction,' American and British authorities were also concerned about violence in an area that harbors a resource indispensable for the functioning of the world economy," Greenspan wrote.

"I'm saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: The Iraq war is largely about oil," added Greenspan, who for decades had been one of the most respected U.S. voices on fiscal policies.

After more than 18 years at the helm, Greenspan retired in January 2006 as chairman of the Fed, the nation's central bank, which regulates monetary policy.

Posted by on September 17, 2007 09:47 AM

Ken Keller

What does you and your family have being Veterans to to with your illogical comments about Bush wanting North Korea to stop their nuclear weapons program and a snafu by the the Airforce? Your hatred of Bush has made you irrational.
I suppose you think North Korea should hve the bomb? Don't post anything anymore until you can think straight and not with your emotions.

This was a very uncomplicated comment Mr. Keller made but our usual brainiacs and boring intellectual wannabe's and their extra boring websites that are bias to start with and are over kill they are trying impress each other with. In the future keep your personal websites to yourselves.

They are worth squat in this type of discussion forum.

Posted by Just a Suggestion on September 17, 2007 09:47 AM

The best evidence against intelligent design is George w. Bush.

Deicide Corner: “The freethinker has the same right to discredit the beliefs of Christians that the Orthodox Christians enjoy in destroying reverence, respect, and confidence in Mohammedanism, Mormonism, Christian Science, or Atheism.”
-- Theodore Schroeder

Posted by RG Deicide: r22037@yahoo (Free: FreeThought Today: ffrf.org) on September 17, 2007 11:34 AM

Post 11:34
Take your questionable website and stick it!
Evolution isn't a fact and not even a theory but a metaphysical belief system for atheists. You fool, you still ended up worshiping a false God. How's that for a rude awakening! If evolution would have been true you're evidence for un-intelligent, random evolution.
From the Goo, To the Zoo, To You!

Bush may appear un-intelligent but he's still the President and you're on this site banging out stupidity

Posted by Just a Suggestion on September 17, 2007 01:34 PM

Just a Suggestion,

So? YOU are an intellectual? And the others are not?

Is that Republican "intellectual"?

Yeah! Right!

Posted by Old Grouch on September 17, 2007 01:43 PM

That really got to you dind't it? Good!
The truth is a bitter pill to swallow.

Now Bite Me and Go away!

Posted by Just a Suggestion on September 17, 2007 02:05 PM

Old Grouch
I'm an independent voter who calls them as they are. As far as being an intellectual I'll leave that for you and your buddies like "Truth" to show us how smart and educated you think you are. I'll stick to common sense and the "Real" truth to help me make dummies of guys like you.

So I really got to you. Good! The truth can be a bitter pill to swallow.
Okay, I'm done with you now go away.
Poor Old Grouch

Posted by Just a Suggestion on September 17, 2007 02:22 PM

Just a Suggestion, Go crawl back under your rock.

Posted by Old Grouch on September 17, 2007 03:47 PM

Truth (now that’s a name far from the truth), why didn’t you mention Jimmy Carter’s disastrous involvement and the Bush administration’s successful negotiation with NK to shut everything down by the end of the year? May be because these facts are embarrassing (to say the least) to Democrats? Looks like your objectiveness is non-existent too, at least I don’t whine about it like you do, I fire back.

Posted by Uno on September 17, 2007 06:37 PM

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