Pulling the troops out of Iraq
I hold exception to Bush’s plan for pulling 30,000 American troops from Iraq by July 2008. It is a token and a political ploy.
All he is doing is playing for time in order to get his own party members off his back while at the same time keeping America’s Military Might acting like hired security guards for Big Oil. These guys don’t give a flip about anybody else, all they have in their sight is their own agenda. And I can tell you, it has nothing to do with spreading thick layers of democracy all over deserts filled with oil.
I call ‘Shenanigans’ on this Administration for the meager bone it is trying to throw out in order to make 51-52% of the American public happier about the war in Iraq. But I think we can safely say that most Americans, even a few who drank the conservative cool-aid, no longer believes anything this Administration says without further investigation and reflection. See, fool me once, shame on you. Fool you twice, shame on me... wait, how does that go? Anyway, this Administration doesn’t get to have a ‘do-over’ with this war. They don’t get to keep their war and send a pittance of our guys and gals back home. This war needs to end. It isn’t for anybody’s benefit at this stage, not the Iraqis and not our Armed Forces. The only winners in this situation have been Big Oil, who got to waltz off with 80% of Iraqi crude, basically all the fields that hadn’t already been tapped by the Iraqi nationalized oil system when America invaded Iraq.
30,000 troops isn’t enough to send home, Mr. President. They all need to come home. America is done with your stupid war. And we want our guys and gals home instead of dying over in those oil-drenched deserts.
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Bush is pretending he did something. Add 30,000 troops in the summer, bring them home next summer. Hoping no one notices we have the same numbetr of troops there as we did before ( well the Republicans won't notice, so it sorta works).
Posted by Tricky on September 19, 2007 02:00 PMIt actually gets better than that.
When the surge was originally discussed, we were talking about 20,000 -22,500 troops. But that didn't count the support staff (Petraeus's words), so really we needed 30,000-35,000.
Now, we're talking about reducing to the "pre-surge" levels. But wait! About a day after this plan was announced, we learned that the "support staff" will still be there, so we would only be pulling out about 22,500 troops. But wait! A couple days after that, we learned that we could only pull out the 22,500 troops next July, only 500 would come home in January. Even that proved too optimistic, though, as we learned towards the end of last week. Now, we could possibly if everything we predict happens the way we think it will remove 2 batallions, which really are only about 13,000 troops, and that's only if a very, very specific set of criterion are met.
Poof! And the levels of troops in Iraq remain unchanged, through no fault of this stalwart, upstanding administration and its lackey general, and in the summer of 08 we will get the good news that things in Iraq are really looking very promising, and the outcome of the whole war will depend on us not withdrawing, because let's face it, withdrawing means defeat!
Posted by Grog on September 19, 2007 03:50 PMNobody's coming home anytime soon. By 2030 I fully expect to see some 35,000 U.S. troops in Iraq. And with Syria and Iran holding the middle east hostage, why should Iraq be any different from S. Korea.
Posted by Hank on September 19, 2007 04:49 PMWho is this "Big Oil" waltzing off with "80%" of Iraqi oil?
Where are you getting all this misinformation? I would recommend staying away from whatever website feeds this to you.
Posted by KW on September 19, 2007 05:38 PMThe dumbfucks are NOT protecting America but protecting the greed of a few Corporations and a racist shitbag of a country called Israel.
Marines = Traitors to America & our Constitution
I piss on the graves of dead invaders and occupiers.
Have fun on your way to Hell, just remember your death in Iraq has nothing to do with America or our Constitutio
Posted by on September 19, 2007 07:58 PMWell, look here, another anti-war leftie full of intelligence and manners. A modern day product of good education, perhaps CU, Ward Churchill?
“I piss on the graves of dead invaders and occupiers.” – do it, please, preferably with marine onlookers. See if these “traitors” will disagree with your constitutional right of free speech and expression also.
758 you are a true coward but you should feel very lucky that you can speak as you do. you see there was a Marine, Soldier,Sailor, or Airman, that has died to allow you to act this way.
it is also good to know that you will continue to hide in the dark as a coward for the rest of your life.
Owen,LtCmdr,USN
Posted by on September 20, 2007 06:34 AMI see the Republicans decided to show their Troop support by killing the bill that would have given the Troops over there some relief. Tell me again how Republicans support the troops? is it to keep them there indefintely with no relief from combat?
Posted by wondering on September 20, 2007 07:01 AM07:58 post No wonder you didn't leave a name you un-educated liberal pussy.
Posted by Keith on September 20, 2007 10:06 AM07:58 hows bout you change my Depends diaper fo me? I soiled meself again, it happns mo and mo to me
Posted by Keith on September 20, 2007 11:12 AMJeri, and the Democratic party are not employing political games in their daily diatribes about how awful things are in Iraq?
They want failure there so they will have success here in 2008 That is the bottom line. Politics over country. Don;t get me wrong, Thr republicans are just as much to blame for the shameful games being played. At least they don't bend over to the likes of a Moveon.org and their supporters on the very radical left of left fringe.
wondering you should read the bill as it was crafted almost as moronic as you are. It would have depleated the ready troops by the amount of time of they were to receive. a year for a year
nice try dums but it didnt work
Posted by on September 20, 2007 03:28 PMRight on 03:28! Those sissy troops dont need any time off right or rest. What are they babies?!!?!?!?? They are over there to do a job damn and need to do it till its done. THEN maybe we'll let them home. Support the troops, keep in Iraq!.
-brought to you by your Republican Troop Support Committee
Imagine Troops thinking they should get a break fior the war, what the hell did they enlist for? Them soldierss must be dumocrat ones cuz repubcan soldiers dont need no rest or time at home. their duty is to die until the last man for the freedum of Iraq
Posted by Keith on September 21, 2007 01:29 PM