Campos’ side better be prepared
What most intrigued me about “Is Bill Kristol respectable?” — Paul Campos’ column in the Sept. 25 Rocky — was the challenge of understanding the underlying dispositions that could lead one to a reasonable conclusion that other people love war and the infliction of mortal suffering on foreign strangers.
The only way I can twist myself into that conclusion with reason is to suspend all sorts of proven facts about humanity and the world.
Campos mistakes a passion for our own survival as a form of masochism. And he places all moral responsibility for war on conservative shoulders, as if this war was and remains unprovoked. Should Campos’ side succeed in convincing a majority of Americans to accept its tunnel vision of the world, I hope he has a good hiding place from our enemies to go to, because come they will.
Brooks Imperial, Kiowa
Campos would be the first inline if something happened to his family. He would not hesitate to go in a room"for 5 minutes" with the perpetrator. Unfortunately for him he would more then likely come out of the exchange worse for wear.
Campos like so many who want to live in a utopia that does not exist are not honest with themselves. If something (God forbid) were to happen like a brutal rape of a female family member he would demand the death penalty.
Campos is an ambulance chaser that helps define the publics distrust of those who profess to be on the side of the law and what is right and just in this world.
Posted by on October 2, 2007 04:45 AMCampos thinks Rwanda was a "Good" war and America was correct in the way it handled it.
Posted by FW on October 2, 2007 06:06 AMcompost, I added the 't' for fun, is unable to think in any logical way. his logic sure smells though and beware it is catching on in boulder.
Posted by on October 2, 2007 06:16 AMKristol is a total dick. Whenever I see him on TV, I feel throwup in my mouth. Classic Chickenhawk SOB
Posted by on October 2, 2007 07:16 AMThe sizzling egg in a red-hot frying pan:
"This is your brain on drugs"....Paul!
Campos is all about 1960s brain damage that keeps on sizzling!
Posted by on October 2, 2007 07:23 AMNow look at 716. Throwing rocks and not even the guts to put in a nickname. I know liberals are cowards but that is so fradycat it's funny.
I guess Mr. Campos must have hit pretty close to home, at least the war supporters certainly seem to be circling the wagons. Perfectly understandable though, it must be getting awfully hard to morally justify a war of choice on a country that was no threat to us, has killed thousands of people, cost us almost a trillion dollars, and now even the White Houses hand picked generals cant say that its making us safer.
Posted by flimflam on October 2, 2007 08:55 AMJC 7:53
"I know liberals are cowards but that is so fradycat it's funny."
But America is the home of the brave, Why do (not so) true red conservatives fear an impotent enemy so much they surrender their freedom to be safe?
If we are to remain the land of the free, we MUST BE the home of the brave. That means NOT surrendering our rights for perceived safety. Brooks, that means you too.
Posted by Holy Reality on October 2, 2007 08:56 AM"As if this war was and remains unprovoked"? What's with the "as if"? This was a war of choice. Remember that the U.N. weapons inspectors were on the ground in Iraq telling everyone that there was no evidence of a nuclear weapons program. All they needed was enough time to finish the job. But that wasn't what George Bush wanted to hear, and America is now paying the price in blood and money for his stupidity and arrogance.
Posted by Romulus on October 2, 2007 09:00 AMAs a taxpayer of Colorado and as an employer of this fool (Campos), I would like to see him fired. He is not a logical person. I question his ability to reason. His ideology cannot even be presented in a rational manner.
Posted by Gene on October 2, 2007 09:11 AMChildren involved in nonsensical arguments over things they don't understand, spewing out unfounded opinions without any knowledge of the subject matter they opine about, resulting in the absolute idiocy of solving nothing, while making it obvious they care more about their unproven beliefs, that put shame on everyone participating in this juvenile discourse, than they do about the country that allows them the opportunity to publically prove their ignorance.
Posted by Allen Campbell on October 2, 2007 09:14 AMNice try Allen. Divide and conquer....as long as we fall to name calling and mutual denigration, the ruling elite will rule. Personal attacks are much easier than true discourse. Emotion is easy, reason takes effort. (I keep waiting for the brilliant retort "poopy head")
Posted by Tom on October 2, 2007 10:17 AMKristol's a dick, and JC lives to suck it.
Posted by on October 2, 2007 01:12 PMCampell,The only childish things being said here are by libs.
Posted by on October 2, 2007 07:05 PMAllen, while you are busy commenting on the commentators, you give us no indication of whether or not you have any opinion on this letter.
We know of your belief about the political divide (and I agree on that).
Yes, there are more important issues. This thread should focus on the letter.
I personally find Campos to be in la-la land so to me, the opinion expressed in the letter was not at all unreasonable.
Posted by RU Serious on October 2, 2007 08:04 PM"...he places all moral responsibility for war on conservative shoulders, as if this war was and remains unprovoked."
We were not provoked by Iraq. Our action was an attack on a sovereign nation that could not harm us.
It's like pulling teeth trying to get some purposefully ignorant people to understand the difference between Afghanistan and Iraq.
Posted by Charles B. on October 2, 2007 09:32 PMWait till Bush tries to invade or bomb Iran. Maybe that country western singer will finally get those two countries straightened in his mind.
Posted by Sharon B. on October 2, 2007 10:10 PMRomulus,
Mentioning only “nuclear weapon” is lying by omission. It’s intellectual dishonesty.
The term “weapons of mass destruction” includes in its meaning “nuclear weapons.” But it also includes any other weaponry with the potential to kill large numbers of people, such as biological and chemical forms. There never has been any doubt that Saddam possessed and actually used both biological and chemical forms of weapons. Bush was stupid to give months of warning to Saddam.
Posted by Mountain Cat on October 3, 2007 01:13 PMPaul Campos rarely passes up an opportunity to claim that the war in Iraq is a dismal failure, nor to blame America for all the woes of the world.
He even wrote in a column something to the effect that another war in Iran would be a "dismal failure." How he would know how something would turn out that hasn’t even begun is anyone’s guess. But I’d bet he’ll enthusiastically say that he supports the troops, even though he has no hope for their success.
A couple of weeks ago I sent an email to Paul Campos asking him why he is rooting for America to lose the war in Iraq.
His response was to say that we cannot lose Iraq because it was never ours in the first place. So, he not only did not answer my question, but he completely changed the context, and thus the entire meaning of my question.
I wrote back to tell him that and he did not write back for a while. So, I wrote again saying he still had not responded to a straight forward question with a straight forward answer. His replied to that by saying that my question was not a straight forward one, but was right wing propaganda.
What a shirker!
Don’t hold your breath for Campos to come to any sense of realism. He is in an entirely different world that is way out there…somewhere…far, far away.