College liberties ebb
Now we are using Tasers on our kids for asking too many questions (“Taser video big draw,” Sept. 19). We need to stop and ask ourselves when this will trickle down to our high schools.
We should be thankful for having the next generation growing up to actually have an opinion. They should be outraged by what is going on in this country and they certainly should have the right to ask questions. It used to be that college was the one place where we were able to think outside the box. I guess that’s slowly being taken away from us, too.
Since this incident has become national news, we might as well face the fact that this video clip will be seen worldwide. Actions speak louder that words. Wake up, people!
Kathy Davis, Castle Rock
kathy you are so right on how kerry would allow a student who was pulling a prank to be tasered. if the idiot would have asked a question and stopped at one it would have been answered but this moron went into a rant to get it on tape and then put it on his web site.
you should go to boulder valley schools where they are taking kids cell phones and transcribing the text messages because the can. this is against the law but you are very quite on that one.
you do make one valid point on liberities on the ebb, both of the above were in very liberal progressive settings. do you see a pattern starting to form?
GOP "Swift-Boating" lives on in the Rockies and Jeffco. John F. Kerry had nothing to do with this student getting zapped. I would say Bush (UCMJ-felon; AWOL, deserter, guilty of illegal separation and discharge, and pre-9/11 wiretapper) had more to do with this than Kerry. Bush is the "torture king", not Kerry. Bush and Blair are also guilty of using chemical weapons to "fry" Iraqis. Bush unleashed Rx drug (PTSD suppression and mind altering) crazed troops on Iraqis too. He rewarded our troops who murdered innocent Iraqis with court martials and exposed them to the death penalty. Bush, Blair, Lott, lard-a$$es Cheney/Hastert, Powell, Delay, and Rice, should be tried in an international court of law for war crimes. Just like we intended for Hitler.
Posted by draftdodgingisntafamilyvalue on October 16, 2007 07:49 AMThe real crime is the loss of civility. Its a big issue because this clown did this with a "progressive". College now indoctrinates and insulates. Any idea not "progressive" gets shouted down by the brown shirts.
Posted by Breeze on October 16, 2007 08:16 AMThe real crime is the reality that nut jobs like "draftdodgingisntafamilyvalue" are allowed to post the same useless messages over and over again. Never on topic, never making sense.
Posted by on October 16, 2007 09:28 AMThe fact this young man was tasered may have been a little extreme (I really don't see the connection to Kerry, BTW), but the other posters are right - this clown was hardly some free speech hero. He was there with the intention of disrupting the meeting because he fancied himself some Jackass/Tom Greene/Borat-wannabe.
The letter-writer said (paraphrasing, here) that she worries about whether or not the younger generation will have their free speech. I don't see any crisis there. I'm more concerned about the younger generation (or any generation, for that matter), thinking that it's acceptable to use negative, disruptive, assinine behavior to obtain the Holy Grail of Look-at-me! attention. Most of us learned to stop doing this when we were 12.
Posted by Jeff on October 16, 2007 10:22 AM"...when this will trickle down to our high schools."
I would suggest the wide-spread use of CATTLE PRODS as the appropriate instrument of discipline at the high school level.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
Posted by J4A on October 16, 2007 11:20 AMBreeze,
Of course, YOU are not among those Republican/"conservaives" who immediately scream to high heaven if one of them even imagines that "liberals" are trying to "stop free speech". Are you?
Posted by Old Grouch on October 16, 2007 12:33 PMhey og what about the boulder valley school that takes a kids cell phone to see who he sends text to? and they are very liberal progressives up there.
it was a kerry speech where the kid got zapped for doing a ramble on type question that made no sense at all.
John Kerry showed his true colors/cowardness by having that student tasered......he can ridicule others but when it happens to him he just has that person tasered. sounds like what the clintons did when Ron Brown or Foreseter where going to testify against them.....
Posted by on October 16, 2007 01:38 PMOh Kathy, he was'nt tasered for talking too much, he was tasered because he resisted arrest after turning a question and answer session into a free for all. All he had to do was play by the rules, and it would not have happened. Those coppers were VERY restrained...he should have gotten worse than he did. Good job coppers!
Posted by on October 16, 2007 01:41 PMQuit your bitchin-
In the old days you obeyed a cops orders and if you resisted arrest you got a billy club up side your head.
Its pretty simple, struggle with a cop and expect to be subdued.
"Don't taze me bro" brought it all on himself and got off easy.
Posted by Get Real on October 16, 2007 06:08 PMIt was all a publicity stunt so he could be on You Tube.I can't believe this is even an issue.
They should have shot him in the head.Then maybe I would have went to You Tube to see his publicity stunt.
Posted by on October 17, 2007 09:11 AM09:28 AM,
You’ll have to give old draftdodgingisntafamilyvalue a break. They ran the screws down too tight when they installed the steal plate in his head.
Kathy,
As is too often the case these days, it’s always about the poor little kiddies, isn’t it. People like you are part of the reason that young people are so self-absorbed and self-indulgent. If he had acted in a more civil and respectful manner to begin with he would not have been asked to leave the meeting. Then, being the little punk he is, he took it even further by resisting the officers who were summoned to force him out of there. He also made a huge spectacle of himself by continuing to scream like a little girly to the point of obvious exaggeration long after the effects of the taser had stopped.
It was a set up for bleeding hearts who pander to the narcissistic wishes of punks like this. You are being helpful to this sort of behavior by taking the bait.
That dude was asking for it
If parents raised their kids with respect for elders and authority, and showed them unconditional love, most of these type of problems just wouldn't exist.
As for Boulder, passing notes in class is one thing, and the notes would be taken and read, but taking a cellphone and reading all the text messages strikes me as a bit extreme. If the kids kept their phones off during class, it wouldn't matter though, would it?
Posted by RP McMurphy on October 19, 2007 12:33 PM