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GOP has to draw the line somewhere
Tuesday, October 2 at 12:01 AM

Now let me get this straight.
The Republicans are comfortable with a president who lied in order to involve us in an unconstitutional, genocidal war in Iraq. And apparently they’re also OK with torture, secret detention, clandestine prisons, election tampering, influence peddling, global warming (which they prefer to call “climate change”) and a ruthless war on the middle class.
Nor was it a problem when the vice president shot a friend in the face and refused to speak to the police, or when the president groped the German chancellor.
Clearly they are good with leaks of classified information to the press and a cover-up resulting in a perjury conviction. And they don’t seem to be very disturbed that the president is trying to open yet another war, this time with Iran.
No one seems to be losing much sleep over an unsustainable budget deficit of trillions of dollars or the economic collapse this portends.
But when a closeted Republican senator gets busted making a pass at an undercover police officer, the wrath of the entire party is loosed.
I guess they had to draw the line somewhere.

Steven Shelton, Westminster


READER COMMENTS

After reading this one needs to go to the dentist to make sure the koolaid wasn't filled with surgar.

Steven, koolaid is nice but do you really think you should drink this much of it?

Posted by on October 2, 2007 04:48 AM

4:48– Go stick your head back in the sand.

Posted by on October 2, 2007 05:27 AM

you know reading this I am sure you must have missed one of the dnc's and howard deans rants somewhere.

Posted by on October 2, 2007 06:08 AM

so by your rant I am going to make a guess and say that you really believe that what ever comes out of the dums mouths is accurate and nothing but the truth?

Posted by on October 2, 2007 06:41 AM

Bush and Cheney have been heard to say that they could give a "rat's ass" about the Republican party. Nice

Posted by on October 2, 2007 07:11 AM

If zealousness is used to supress important dialogue about questions of political rightness, than the voice of reasonable, rational, argument is also silenced. Taken to it's logical extreme, this can only result in tyranny of the ruling political party over all that oppose it. Was this not what the revolutionary war was all about and why the United States of America was founded, to escape such tyranny? If we're not very careful concerning this dangerous and self defeating trend toward making serious accusations of treason and traitorous behavior, we run the chance of destroying everything this country stands for, the Freedom, Justice and Liberty so many have fought and died to protect and defend.

Posted by Allen Campbell on October 2, 2007 07:21 AM

hey allen dont worry about it for very long the dums want socialism in 09 so freedom will be a thing of the past. has billary said how she is going to pay the 5k bond to every kid born here? same as her refreshed social health care i guess, tax everyone.

Posted by on October 2, 2007 07:40 AM

Allen you are so correct. One of the things the whack job left wingers forget is that if they start a civil war here at home they have no guns and don't know how to use them. Yet they go right on insulting anyone who really educates themselves with facts. They lie and rant and generally act like children.

If you have nothng but emotion you can never have knowlege.

Posted by on October 2, 2007 07:40 AM

07:40 AM, anonymous,

You certainly demonstrate that you know what you're blathering about, with one of the least intelligent rants around.

Posted by Old Grouch on October 2, 2007 07:51 AM

They won't draw the "FELON" line. When NAM broke-out, Lim(P)baugh broke for his crowed NAM sanctuary, closely followed by Bush, Cheney, Mitt (Mormon mission), Allard-communist-sider, lard a$$e$ Cheney and Hastert, Lott (Ole Miss cheerleader), Frist, Owens, McConnell, Lamborn, etc. Lim(P)baugh has recently shown his sleuth skills in investigating who actually completed their military. I strongly challenge this racist bag of hot air to USSC Affirmative Action (AA) Judge Alito. Lim(P)baugh should enlist the assitance of his GOP posse members like John "no-backbone Anndrews, Dan "on m knees " Caplis, Gunny Bob, Rosen, O'Riles, Hannity, etc. Alito is a UCMJ-felon, AWOL, deserter, and guilty of illegal separation and discharge, just like Boy-Jorge. Blacks should protest Alito with their "Journey to Jena" protesters and demand that Alito be immediately imprisoned. Heck, if Alito was black he would have been to Ft. Leavenworth KS "pen" altar. The brothers can't wait for Alito to arrive in theses AA confines.

Posted by draftdodgingisntafamilyvalue on October 2, 2007 07:52 AM

steven,You village idiot.Your whole post is full of liberal lies,you liar.

Posted by Keith on October 2, 2007 08:18 AM

Draft dodging etal,

Your comments would make more sense and get more headway with the readers if you did not play the race card so much. This has nothing to do with race.

And as for the close minded zealots that take my comments as a slam agaist one party and not the other, get it through your thick heads. It is not one or the others fault, it is the fault of All THE POLITCAL OFFICALS that polute the halls of congress with their cowardly finger pointing and idiotically placing the blame for the woes of this country on each other ad nauseam. Wake the hell up, you can no longer lay the blame on one and ignore the other, all are guilty and it's time this schoolyard blaming game came to an end. Only then can all of us tend to the wounds done to this country in the name of politicl expediency and special interest corruption.

Posted by Allen Campbell on October 2, 2007 08:19 AM

One wonders if the oh so courageous yet nameless poster at 07:40 wants to stake his life on that particular wingnut delusion.I know lots of liberals who not only possess weapons, but know how to use them quite well.If your clueless observation is typical of the intelligence level of anyone we might face in such a conflict I'm not in the least bit worried.

Posted by patrick on October 2, 2007 09:09 AM

Patrick

You are absolutely correct. They are Charles Schummer, Barbara Boxer, Diane Fienstien, Ted Kennedy, the Clintons, Sarah Brady and the rest of the anti-gun liberal elitists who want to ban law abiding citizens from owning them but they are exempt from the same laws.
So typical for socialists and the communists.

Posted by Hip To Their Trip on October 2, 2007 10:13 AM

Keith is right about letter writer Steve Shelton lying.It sounds like Steve got his talking points from the terrorists,media,Democrat party or MoveOn.org.They are all one in the same.All of them want the terrorist to win the war because they hate the US.The normal people of the US will see through these cowards.

Posted by An American on October 2, 2007 10:19 AM

P.S.
Patrick as far as your run of the mill liberal they will not touch a gun and if the small majority that do well the will end up shooting themselves in the foot or their fellow liberal in the behind since most have never served in the military they loathe.

Most right wingers are proficient in their use because we have served, go hunting and visit the gun ranges at least 4 times a year. I have never ever met or seen a liberal at the range or at a gun show.

They are as rare as hens teeth there and as a sniper in Nam we called people like you "Hamburger".
When you start the cultural war and you will sooner or later being rabid socialists and all,
You are out classed in more ways than one.

Posted by Hip To Their Trip on October 2, 2007 10:24 AM

Patrick says that he knows a lot of liberals that own weapons.You better tell these liberals that almost every liberal Democrat politician is trying to ban their guns.George Soros a major doner to MoveOn.org has spent millions to take away your gun rights.Bill Clinton put 75% of gun dealers out of business.He banned semi-auto firearms.Every big city controled by Democrats has either banned guns or severely restricted them.There is much more damage the Democrats have done to your gun right but I do not have time to explain.Welcome to the Republican party.

Posted by An American on October 2, 2007 10:36 AM

Patrick, keep pushing and you just might get what you want. The Bubas will be more than happy and capable to meet you on the corner.

And Patrick, I believe you to be a lying coward.

Posted by 7:40 on October 2, 2007 11:24 AM

Oh yes, if Patrick and Old Grouch are so couragous why not post your full names?

Grouch, I was just stating what you guys don't want to admit. That being, if you Marxist keep up your attempts to force people to do as you say there are people who know what liberty is and are willing to fight for it. We know that Limps are not willing to fight for it because they tell us that every day.

Posted by 7:40 on October 2, 2007 11:30 AM

"... when the president groped the German chancellor."

"Groped" may be a bit strong, but that was funny as hell. I remember thinking, "George, for God's sake, you don't just go up behind people you don't know that well and start massaging them. Let's go over 'good touch' 'bad touch' again."

I have to admit, though, the look on the German woman's face and her semi-convulsion was pretty funny. Does anyone know if there are stronger personal-boundary issues in the German culture? I mean, would what Bush did be considered a BIG deal, or just kind of inappropriate?

Posted by Jeff on October 2, 2007 11:39 AM

7:40,

Why don't you follow your own advice and print YOUR full name.

Posted by on October 2, 2007 11:57 AM

These responses to Letters to the Editor get more like an AOL chatroom everyday.

Posted by on October 2, 2007 12:11 PM

George Bush and this administration and everyone that supports them all have blood on their hands. Our dead and wounded soldiers blood. You can wash it of as many times as you like but the blood is still there. You right wing idiots are so hung up on your beloved GOP that you completely forget that you are indirectly involved in the killing and maming of our troops. I have no idea how you live with yourselfs.

Posted by larry on October 2, 2007 12:25 PM

The Rebublicans are doing something that the Democrats did before, engaging in self destruction. The thing is, the american voters have a bad case of amnesia. They'll repeat the same mistakes again.

Posted by Stan B on October 2, 2007 12:39 PM

12:11 - damn, you're right. The AOL boards were really the first ones I ever read, and about a year ago I just said, enough. The name-calling, etc. just got to be too much.

At first I found the RMN boards kind of a refreshing change, with people actually making POINTS and REASONED ARGUMENTS. Now, it's going downhill. There are a lot of posters here (on BOTH political sides, BTW) who couldn't honestly claim to be more mature than a 9-year-old.

Posted by Ease up on October 2, 2007 12:45 PM

All of them want the terrorist to win the war because they hate the US.The normal people of the US will see through these cowards.

Posted by An American on October 2, 2007 10:19 AM

See this is where the right wing loses me. "Democrats hate the US". What a tool.Keep your head firmly stuck in your rear.

Posted by obvious on October 2, 2007 01:08 PM

As you can see it is "obvious" that "obvious" did not write that he and his Democrat friends do not hate this country!! I wonder why? Democrats are use to lying but he could not bring himself to say he loves the US and all it stands for.

Posted by An American on October 2, 2007 01:31 PM

Jeff, re groping. He did the neck rub thing that ordinary folks do for friends.

Bush always looks like the kid who knows where the frog is hidden, just before some girl finds it in her desk drawer.

He so desperately wants to be funny, and way back when, he was. Back before 9-11 and the wars.

The Republics look so happy with him lately. (joke).

Posted by Sharon B. on October 2, 2007 01:35 PM

Larry is a true Democrat liar and coward!!

Posted by An American on October 2, 2007 01:36 PM

Shelton, boo hoo hoo. You dems now control the house and senate and what have you accomplished? Absolutely nothing. Except for the fact that you whine and complain more about everything. How pathetic is it that you liberals actually want us to lose the war on terrorism.

Posted by on October 2, 2007 01:39 PM

The reason our soldiers are dying is because the Democrat party and their media friends have been giving aid and comfort to the terrorists.They have been telling our enemy that they are winning so they will keep on fighting.They are telling the enemy that they are right in their struggle because Bush lied.Larry you and your party have the blood of our soldiers on your hands because you guys have been the major cheerleaders for the terrorist team.All normal people can see this fact.

Posted by An American on October 2, 2007 01:44 PM

Sharon B.

You're just envious that it wasn't you Bush massaged on the shoulders.

With a Fox of a wife like Laura is that old stuffy crone should have been flattered.
She was just mad because it wasn't Slick Willie the real sexual harasser of women.

Posted by Hip To Their Trip on October 2, 2007 02:09 PM

An American,

By your reasoning don't you think we should hang or jail all democrats? I mean if they are really aiding and abetting the enemy this is treaon right? So with this reasoning shouldn't we be rounding up all the Democrats (about 50% of the US) and jailing, hanging or deproting them? Your response?

Posted by Karl Cheney on October 2, 2007 02:11 PM

Hip, lighten up son, you are taking this neck rub business way to seriously.

Posted by Sharon B. on October 2, 2007 03:29 PM

No, Carl, it would be better if they apologized and supported the mission.

And, I agree, Laura is foxy.

Posted by on October 2, 2007 03:55 PM

Post 3:55 PM

That's right! She makes Hillary look like an old crone also.

Posted by Hip To Their Trip on October 2, 2007 04:03 PM

Sharon and Old Crotch like to use the condescending "son" or "sonny" a lot.It must be a drag to go to sleep at night not knowing if youll wake up again. Most people are more mature dealing with their end of life issues though. Old,angry and senile.

Posted by on October 2, 2007 06:34 PM

Partick,
You're so right.
Many Liberals not only have weapons, but were raised with them around and properly trained in their use. Many more trained in the military.

And we won't hesitate to use them against our enemies , foreign AND domestic.
Since Cons have declared war on law abiding Liberals, we have no choice but to defend ourselves.
Liberals also believe in ALL the rights guaranteed by the Constitution, not just the 2nd amendment. And the truth is, most cons couldn't name more than three because they have sub-standard brain function, and limited vocabulary.
Right,Keith. Un-american, and Never-been Hip?
And Laura has a dead body in her closet also like T K.

Bring it on chickenhawks.

Posted by liberal and waiting on October 2, 2007 07:01 PM

"liberal and waiting" you are the best post for the entire thread. I can't stop laughing.

Posted by skeptical on October 2, 2007 09:24 PM

This blog is going downhill. I think I'll spend less time here...

Posted by Charles B. on October 2, 2007 09:27 PM

Liberal and Hamburger

I see your fear and fantasies have caused to lose what little common sense and sense of reality you had.
I guess I should be flattered that you have parroted and plagiarized most of my posts.

You must have been a student of that other plagiarizer and left wing coward Ward Churchill.
That is laughable, a combat ready liberal.
Thanks for the comic relief.

Posted by Hip To Their Trip on October 3, 2007 09:51 AM

I can understand why Charles B. wants to spend less time on this blog.We are making his fellow Democrats look like fools and it pains him.To Karl Cheney,no Democrats should not be put in jail for being on the terrorists side.Every person has a right to speak even if they support the terrorists that are killing our troops.It is just my job to expose them for the cowards and US haters they are.It is the least I can do for or brave soldiers.

Posted by An American on October 3, 2007 09:58 AM

Some liberal Democrats are posting how they are ready to use their firearms against their fellow citizens.I think we better let them know that it is their party,the Democrats, that are trying to take their guns away.How could this be? I get it,they think that the Democrats will just disarm the Republicans like the Nazis just disarmed the Jews.That way only the liberals will have the power.What else could it be when these "pro-gun" Democrats back an anti-gun party.Maybe they are just lying!!!

Posted by An American on October 3, 2007 10:08 AM

skepticle

Sounds like you would laugh at train wreck because that's what your pal "Liberal and Waiting is. I He could also be called "Lady In Waiting".

Now you can knock yourself out and bust a gut.

Posted by Hip To Their Trip on October 3, 2007 11:21 AM

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