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Brian Boyarko of Littleton writes:

There is no justification for war save for a response to a direct attack or to stop a genocide. Neither of these conditions are present between the United States and Iran. Therefore, the Lieberman-Kyl amendment is inflammatory and reckless. Please use the good sense you were given and reject the ravings of these sick individuals.

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Lieberman proffered that amendment on behalf of another country. Passing it shows who REALLY controls the united states.

Ahhhh....

So you don't think it would be appropriate, say, if intelligence gathered information that Iran had amassed nuclear capability, had acquired the technology and in fact the delivery system of ICBM's, and in less than 4 hours was going to launch a direct attack on the United States, that it would NOT be prudent for the US to preempt that attack? This is of course hypothetical, but according to your letter Mr. Boyarko, if the US could have prevented Pearl Harbor, they should have indeed let the Japanese bomb the Naval base so that the US then could declare war in World War II, and we should have absolutely refrained from our involvement in the European Theater? Or we should abandon our treaties and NATO agreements and should one of our allies be attacked, we should let them "fend for themselves" until someone attacks the US?

Did you actually take the time to think, before you shot this letter off?

That's the problem with these people, they don't think. They remind me of the scene from Independence Day when the people went to the top of the building begging to be taken to the Alien leaders and welcoming them with open arms, only to be vaporized by the aliens.

Back to present day, We welcome the Iranian "President" to US soil and expect a rational conversation with a lunatic. This guys crazy like a fox, and the left sucks it up with a straw...

The clocks ticking, if Iran gets the chance to produce these weapons, God help us all.

Israel will deal with Iran long before the rest of the world musters up the balls to.

Despite the hope that we can learn from past mistakes and not repeat them, history suggests it is counterintuitive to actually believe it could be so.

We won every military engagement of the Vietnam War yet Walter Cronkite and the American media conspired with the enemy to do what the North Vietnamese could not do on the battlefield.

General Võ Nguyên Giáp, who was the commander of the North Vietnamese Army, has published his memoirs. He has confirmed what most Americans either knew or suspected. The war in southeast Asia was not lost in Vietnam…it was lost here at home. The American media, enabling and functioning as symbiots for the John Kerry anti-war gaggle accomplished in a few short years what Giap could not do in three decades of fighting.

Giap was an immensely accomplished general, highly respected (some say brilliant). Before, during and after his martial career, he was a scholar, journalist, historian and philosopher.

The following quote is from his memoirs currently found in the Vietnam War memorial in Hanoi:

"What we still don't understand is why you Americans stopped the bombing of Hanoi. You had us on the ropes. If you had pressed us a little harder, just for another day or two, we were ready to surrender! It was the same at the battles of TET. You defeated us! We knew it, and we thought you knew it.

But we were elated to notice your media was definitely helping us. They were causing more disruption in America than we could in the battlefields. We were ready to surrender. You had won!"

Giap knew we had crushed his Army in the battles of Tet. Our generals and soldiers knew we had won. But when ‘Uncle Walter’ told the American people that February in 1968, “Who won and who lost in the great Tet offensive against the cities? I'm not sure.”, waffling public opinion changed. Cronkite may not have been sure but General Giap sure knew.

Not unlike General Robert E. Lee who supposedly said, ““It appears we have appointed our worst generals to command forces, and our most gifted and brilliant to edit newspapers.” ‘General’ Cronkite apparently had greater insight and omniscience than Generals Giap and Westmoreland.

Dan2,

Just war tradition allows for aggression in the face of imminent and provable danger, which is not the case with Iran, unless you know something that we don't.

Preemptive wars withou imminent threat and wars that interfere with self determination, such as Iraq, are most definitely unjust and illegal.

"Just war tradition allows for aggression in the face of imminent and provable danger, which is not the case with Iran, unless you know something that we don't.

Preemptive wars withou imminent threat and wars that interfere with self determination, such as Iraq, are most definitely unjust and illegal."

Exactly who makes these determinations? You? Please provide the objective standard of reference as to what "imminent and provable danger" is if you are going to make such a bold claim.

No justification for brians idiotic post.

October 3, 2007 04:05 PM

You may know that there are those who will deny what you wrote and that it is propaganda to quote General Giap. Of course, even though some of them never put on a uniform much less served in Vietnam, they know better than any stupid North Vietnamese general about what transpired in Vietnam.

Some people learned a great lesson about how the Vietnam War was lost here in the streets of America rather than in Vietnam itself, and have used the very same tactics concerning the war in Iraq by distorting the truth. For some reason or another, they are purposefully making it difficult to finish the job in Iraq just as the left made it difficult to finish the job in Vietnam.

Then there are those who did not learn the lesson from the Vietnam War days and simply are blindly making the same mistakes today.

Both categories of people are useful idiots.

Today, there are those who look down their noses at the military, would never be caught dead in a military uniform much less place a foot in harms way in Iraq, but yet know more about the situation in Iraq than anything General David Petraeus could tell us about.

Dan2 and 347, guys this isnt a movie, a TV show or a video game. Stop with the paranoid fantasies and come back from LaLa land.

Mountain Cat, your last paragraph was a perfect description of the neoconservative movement especially the current Bush administration. Couldn't agree more.

Brian what if I farted in your general direction? Would that be cause for war?

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