- Keep consequences for kids in mind
- Child welfare agencies must be fixed
- Illogical and unfair
- Spray the poppies
- A DIFFERING VIEW/Airlines are to blame for airport congestion
- Blackwater scandal
- Aggressive corporate takeovers
- “Bush prosperity"
- David McSwane’s recriminations are hypocritical
- Foreclosures & helping the homeless
SCHIP program
It is all over the news. How when you neglect your children you lose custody. How when you don’t keep them safe they are taken away. How when you don’t provide for their health and welfare you lose your right to control their lives. Too bad the media spent so much time on Britney Spears and didn’t deal with the real ‘parent’ who should lose ‘custody’ of his ‘children.’ George W. Bush has vetoed the SCHIP program, denying medical care to millions of children. He sends our young men and women to fight in a war based upon lies of his Administration where more die and are maimed every day. He has let the children of New Orleans languish in the devastation that was Katrina. It is time Congress steps in and removes George W. Bush’s ‘parental rights’ to the children and people of the United States.
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SCHIP is a program for poor children. The additions and extras that were added would have added adults who were not poor.
Bush says that adults should not be covered until 90% of eligible children have coverage. In what way is this denying care for children?
The whole point of this stealth plan was to get young adults addicted to government health care so the liberals (socialists) could sneak in socialized medicine under the radar, so to speak.
The lefties know it would never meet approval in an up and down vote so they tried the sneaky express. It failed. Now let's expand the program for poor children, not adults, nor for those making enough money to afford, and many already are paying for it, private insurance. That was the purpose of the veto and the polls have shown Congress that it is what the people want, despite the propaganda campaign waged in the failed attempt to fool Americans into thinking as Roger does.
Posted by momma y on October 20, 2007 04:14 PMI wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Articles of Impeachment.....Seems to me the Clinton incident was payback for Nixon and now we're all even.
Posted by Jimminy on October 20, 2007 05:11 PMFirst the proposed changes to SCHIP are based on the lies of government legislatures and libral's. Second the CLINTON ADMINISTRATION, the MAJOR FORIEGN GOVERNMENTS (Great Britian, France, Spain, Germany, Russia, etc.), the U.N. also believed that Iraq possed or were in the progress of making weapons of mass destruction. The United States Congress with few exceptions all voted for the use of force (they were to lazy to actually read the INTELLIGENCE REPORTS themselves). The STATE GOVERNMENT and THE NEW ORLEANS GOVERNMENT are the most responsible for the problems caused by KATERINIA. The local governments are responsible for requesting assisstance from the State government who in turn must REQUEST FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ASSISSTANCE. So before you get on your high horse you may want to go back and take American Government 101 again.
Posted by Chris on October 20, 2007 06:14 PMSCHIP veto
The president did the right thing when he vetoed the SCHIP legislation. This program has nothing to do with poor children. States have used the program to enroll illegal aliens, higher-income families and those already covered by private insurances.
Instead of requiring proof of citizenship to sign up for benefits, states would merely ask for a Social Security number. The Social Security Administration has warned this would not verify legal status.
Families with incomes up to $83,000 per year would be eligible. One out of every three newly enrolled into the program would drop his or her private insurance to receive government benefits.
This program extension has nothing to do with addressing the needy, but more to do with expanding government.
Luke McClain
Northeast El Paso
roger you are a true moron who can not read only repeat what he hears from his brain at the dnc. the veto was to stop the expansion of a program that is working and doesnot stop the program. there is a difference but you wouldnt understand that.
maybe it would have been a good thing for your mother to ahve been for abortion before you were a living thing.
"The additions and extras that were added would have added adults who were not poor."
this is a myth propagated by the far right...very popular on Rush, Rosen and Reilly.
Ben....the tinfoil hat is getting a little tight again...
Posted by jay on October 20, 2007 10:33 PMSo how much extra do the libs send in to the government to help out the poor? Or do they just want to steal from everyone else to feed their irresponsibility? Jay. Did you send in a bit extra this year? Or do you just think I should?
Posted by on October 20, 2007 11:06 PMThat's a little taste of what sentiment is on
"Ben's Border Street".
jay,,, the disingenous leftist smear is getting a little tired. Now you bring your bs to the letter section?
Posted by Ben's Border Street on October 21, 2007 05:25 AMRoger,
"How when you don’t provide for their health and welfare you lose your right to control their lives."
This may have been just a Freudian slip on your part, however I believe this is exactly what the Dems want to do, by offering all of these freebies. The Dems want to control the purse strings of this group of people and thus control their votes. How many people are going to speak out against a person or a government who they are totally reliant on for their financial future.
hey roger
He has let the children of New Orleans languish in the devastation that was Katrina.
this is a very good example of how your government run health care would work. just remember that the dums running New Orleans didnt do anything to help get folks out but sure cried that it was someone elses fault for not protecting them when they failed. also katrina was not a direct hit on N. O. and the biggest cause of the devastation came from the levees coming apart. they were known to be in disrepair for years and there was government money sent to the liberals down there to fix them but they had other social programs to fund and expand.
maybe you forgot the mayors comment on returning it to the chocolate city it once was. it was shocking to hear so many of the ones who stayed behind claim they did so because their checks were coming and they didnt want to leave with out their check.
but hey the liberal progressives know how to take care of you and will provide everything you need if you will just listen to them and trust them.
Why can't people read about a subject instead of the headline, President Bush Veto"s SCHIP Program For Poor Children!
I'm not even go into the whole thing again.
The devil is in the details.
Hey , Momma y, Where you been? You Good?
Posted by Can I get an AMEN! on October 21, 2007 08:46 AMFamilies making $82,000 are not poor and 25-year old "children" are not "children." But most of all, moving such people from private health care plans to a plan financed by taxpayers is not progress--its a giant leap backwards.
People can't afford to live like rabbits by irresponsibly living a lifestyle that they can't afford. Such folks who are unaccountable shouldn't have children. I believe that they forefiet their rights of parenthood if they require my wallet to finance their bad judgement and irresponsible behavior.
If it takes a village to cover your butt, then you better find your own island. Otherwise you forefeit control to the island's owner--the taxpayer.
Posted by Hank on October 21, 2007 09:49 AMThe bottom line is the Democrats want to control every part of your life and they claim it is for the children.This push for socialized medicine is nothing more than to try to control more of our lives.Here is something to think about,the Democrats are saying that the "government" made big mistakes in the war then why do they want that same government controlling more of our health care.It would seem that the Democrats are just stupid or are lying about how they think the war is going.
Posted by An American on October 21, 2007 09:57 AMAdd roger to the list of liberal village idiots.
Posted by Keith on October 21, 2007 10:10 AMjay repeated:
"this is a myth propagated by the far right..."
Is this what they told you at moveon jay? You ought to actually read the expansions added:
Admitting people making up to 300% above poverty level ($60,000+)Acknowledging states to allow up to 400% above poverty (NYC)
Allowing "children" to remain enrolled thru college
These are but a few examples of expansions far beyond the original intent of the program.
I thought you truly cared about the children jay. What happened?
Posted by KW on October 21, 2007 10:10 AMPoor KW...you still parroting Rush's talking pionts about this bill?
How many times do we have to debunk these before you'll quit spouting them?
Posted by jay on October 21, 2007 10:26 AMGo ahead, jay, debunk KW.
Posted by John II on October 21, 2007 10:51 AMJohn please see the Rocky Talk Live post on the schip program. Many folks there have gone over the Rushian talking poinst spouted by KW and the like and have thoroughly debunked these tired old myths.
I think you'll enjoy the show...it's a great example of rhetoric vs. reality.
Posted by jay on October 21, 2007 11:13 AMNo. I want you personally to debunk KW on this forum in your own words.
Posted by John II on October 21, 2007 11:44 AMLIke I said John...rather than debunk the myths all over...AGAIN....get some education on the matter here if you don't mind...and if you have any questions we can discuss them. Although, I must say, for someone who refused to acknowledge facts (like the FACT that the US pays more money for lower quality healthcare than its global peers) such a discussion might just be an exercise in futility. The sad thing is that after KW was debunked on RTL...he simply stopped posting his myths there and tried to pass them off here...which proves that you can fool some of the people all of the time. Not that you're a fool...you're just susceptable to right wing influence.
Posted by jay on October 21, 2007 02:19 PMSorry jaybird, I actually began posting here about a year ago BEFORE I wandered over to RTL. If you had any clue in life you wouldn't spout all your half truths and half baked misconceptions so frequesntly. Which, by the way, really makes you look like such an a**.
But I guess you enjoy that.
I have read the bill and the 3 points I listed above are included. Please read the bill before you come over here trying to reinstate yourself as the token post turtle.
Or just stay at RTL where you're appreciated by such ilks as am760, goef, JMH, etc... They need a team leader such as yourself.
Lost souls usually do.
Posted by KW on October 21, 2007 02:42 PMjay,
Why did you send me to the link? I had to filter through all the nonsense and found nothing that came close to KW's post on 10:10.
Posted by John II on October 21, 2007 03:01 PMAll Jay has to make his point is lies.Remember without lies there would be no Democrat party.
Posted by An American on October 22, 2007 09:05 AMJohn II - This is common of jay. I've had many bouts with him on RTL and usually the closest he comes to providing any support for his claims is with polls.
He's clever enough to avoid committing strongly to any point he argues, mostly just making claims such as "the majority wants..., the will of the people believe..., etc..." and he'll always try to place false inferences in someone remarks to create a point for him to argue.
In other words, he's like chaff that blows in the wind.
Shaggy at RTL told us a story once that fit jay to tee. It's about the turtle sitting high on a post that no one knows how he got up there or why he's there. He's just there and doesn't know how to get down. Hence jay's nickname... The Post Turtle.
Welcome to jay's world.
Posted by KW on October 22, 2007 09:21 AMAre you guys still trying to spin away the common place Republilcan tactic of refusing to enact the will of the vast majority of Americans.
Sorry guys...not going to happen.
It's your track record and you simply can't run away from it.
Unfortunately, you can't campaign on it either...so you'd better warm up the swiftboats.
Posted by jay on October 22, 2007 12:14 PMIt looks like Jay is admitting that the Democrat party just goes by the polls even if it means backing something that is wrong.I hope the polls never show the American people are for slavery because Jay will be backing it to get votes for the Democrat party.
Posted by An American on October 22, 2007 03:12 PMYes UnAmerican...you can be sure that I'll continue to prove with scientific polling that the Republicans are simply refusing to represent their constituency.
Posted by jay on October 22, 2007 04:08 PMYes UnAmerican...you can be sure that I'll continue to prove with scientific polling that the Republicans are simply refusing to represent their constituency.
Posted by jay on October 22, 2007 04:08 PMjay,
I admire your persistence, and your fortitude, in dealing with the likes of the twerps who keep on showing up as the principal spokes-persons for Republicanism/"conservativeism" on the website.
But, I do think you might express your position with just a bit more grammatical accuracy at times. In reality, it appears that the Republicans DO represent THEIR "constituency", the war-mongers; grafters; religious freaks, kooks, and self-righteous phonies; foul mouthed brats; selfish and greedy pseudo-philosophers; and all the host of the other dregs and riff-raff for whom Republicanism/"conservatism" is the hallmark of their "patriotism", political knowlege, loyalty, and blindly obedient reverence and worship. It IS THEIR Party, after all; and up to now anyway, the ones they have elected to office seem to be doing a pretty good job of seeing to it that things keep right on going THEIR way.
Now, it's certainly true that the party DOES NOT represent the bulk of Americans, who don't fall into its categories of membership; but, to be strictly grammatically correct, they are NOT Republican "constituents" to begin with. - or at least, NOT Republican "constituents" who post here; that's for sure.
Posted by Old Grouch on October 22, 2007 05:54 PMI am glad Old Grouch did not back the terrorists in his posting this time.I think we may be educating him.
Posted by An American on October 24, 2007 09:52 AMEven Old Grouch thinks that Jay is an idiot.
Posted by An American on October 24, 2007 09:56 AM