Abortion should never be acceptable
I hope that men and women of good character and morals who are saddened, heartbroken and outraged at the slaughter of innocent human lives will always far outnumber those who think that the murder of innocent human lives is nothing more than a “personal choice” that should be “understood” and “condoned.”
Certainly there are times when the murder, the killing
But abortion — the murder of an innocent unborn human life
The abortion of an innocent human life — a little unborn baby — is mankind at its lowest. And any defense of abortion
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THE BABY HAS A HEARTBEAT. YOU STOP IT. HOW COULD IT NOT BE MURDER? DON'T USE THE LAME DEFENCE OF INCEST AND RAPE EITHER. WHAT A JOKE! THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF THOSE CASES IS LESS THAN 2%. KEEP YOUR LEGS CLOSED. MURDER IS NOT BIRTH CONTROL! IF I STOPPED YOUR HEART FROM BEATING, IT WOULD BE MURDER. WHY ANY DIFFERENT WITH A BABY?Posted by on November 15, 2007 05:19 PM
Well now! It appears we're seeing the true colors of the really fervent supporters of the anti-abortion cult.
Let's hear it for good old fashioned adolescent locker-room male chauvinism, of the "In the summer keep 'em pregnant, and in the winter take their shoes" variety - anonomously presented, of course.
Just goes to show what a "real man" has to say about things. The women ought to know what the Scripture rule tells 'em: "When it's inevitable, relax and enjoy it", cause your supposed to be obedient to the MAN in the house. Get back to that old time religion; and that ought to get the anti-abortion Initiative passed in Colorado, for sure!Posted by Old Grouch on November 15, 2007 06:16 PM
Why do people often seem so much more concerned about an unborn baby than they do about a born one? I wish people would be more about "pro-quality-life" than just pro-life; that's why I think of pro-life people as often just pro-birth. There are millions of born babies around the world, and here in the United States, who live a poor quality of life. I don't hear much about them. I cringe when I read about people who emphasize the preciousness of life, and I then think about the millions of babies who starve to death or live in dire poverty. If we really thought life was precious, we would do more for them to make their lives, not precious, but not a living hell. Not only the nation but each of us can reach out and help living babies and children. Not just write letters to the editor about them, but actually do something ourselves about them. But then that might take money or energy. Writing letters takes neither.
It may well be that Robert Foreman does expend money and energy to improve the lives of born babies and children; it may be that he supports using government funds to help them, whether or not their parents are legally here, and whether or not they live in the U.S. or in Africa. Or it may be that his efforts are restricted to writing letters about unborn babies.
There is certainly nothing wrong with writing letters. Unless that is about all a person does.
Robert glibly mentions times of war, when we kill innocent people because we consider that their lives are not as important as ours. The fact is that for the vast majority of people the preciousness of life is dependent on whose life we're talking about. Some are precious. Some are expendable. And guess whose lives are the most precious. Clue: it ain't "theirs".Posted by Truth on November 16, 2007 09:07 AM
There goes Robert E. Foreman recycling again. Do women tell him what to do with his scrotum? Why is he telling women what to do with their womb? Removing a parasite from their womb is a personal choice. A tumor is as alive as lichen on rock. Does Foreman militate against the removal of a tumor? No life form on earth is entitled to greater equality than another: Obey the laws of nature. No insult intended: Richard Grimes, Denver email@example.com
You compare a unique new individual with a tumor? One of the obvious differences is that YOU, Richard Grimes, and all of us, were once one of those 'parasites' as you call them. There was a vulnerable time in your ungrateful life when you could have been excised from your mother's body as a horrible inconvenience and nuisance. But for some reason, she didn't.Posted by Denise on November 17, 2007 04:52 PM
Thanks Denise for being civil. Big deal: However, if I'd been excised I'd never have known it. What's life? There has never been an answer; there will never be an answer; that is the answer. How about: eat, sleep, and have babies.
Deicide Corner: “I was reading the Bible--some of us still do that, you know
--and I saw the tale of Jacob and his wives and handmaids, a kind of early Baby M. This is not an attack on Christianity, but the fact is Christians have long persecuted other sects and each other, as they are in Northern Ireland today. People were saying things like, 'A woman's place is in the home.' And I got to thinking, well, how would someone enforce thoughts like that?” -- Margaret Atwood
The rub of the situation is this:
The anti-choice crowd's position won't reduce the number of abortions in the US, but rather make them more dangerous.
Seems like a counterproductive waste of time.Posted by jay on November 19, 2007 12:15 PM
Wow, i can't believe im reading any of this... How can you possibly think that a baby is a parasite?! Like Denise said you were one of these "parasites." Besides it was the potential mother's choice to have sex and risk getting pregant! She should be completely ready to accept the consequences of her own actions. It's unfair to take away what could have been someone's life simply because you made a poor decision.
In response to you would not have realized that you were killed, that's like saying it's not wrong to kill someone in their sleep because they won't know they died; it's just not logical. By the way life is an ongoing cycle of chemical reactions but that's besides the point.
to Truth: simply because there are children suffering elsewhere in the world, you're going to say its ok to kill babies here in the states?! Yes we should do things to help needy people around the world but that doesn't mean we can't stop murder here too. And you hypocrite! what have you done to help those suffering foreign children?
To RG: there is a line we have to draw when there are human lives at stake. Yes, people have the right to make their own choices and no one else should tell them how to live their lives. However, when they begin to interfere with another person's life against their will (and believe me the baby would not want to be aborted, despite what you may say about not knowing what he/she thinks) then action has to be taken. We step in when someone murders, it shouldn't be wrong to stop someone from aborting on the principle of freedom of choice.
To Richard Grimes and his quotation of Margaret Atwood: do not judge the entire religion based on the actions of one group. Christians do not believe that women belong in a particular place or have a specific role. This is a primitive tradition unrelated to the religion and has nothing to do with it. The fact that they are Christians is coincidence. I'm sure there are non-christians who practice the same traditions, and i know there is a greater number of christians who do not believe in these traditions (e.g. the vast majority of U.S. Christians)Posted by JL on November 28, 2007 08:56 PM