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Alan Thomas of Denver writes:

In respect to global climate change, letter writer Sam Holden goes right along with the liberal environmentalist crowd in that they all make one great big assumption before they begin to spout their agenda. That assumption is that there is actually a problem out there that the human race has any influence over. The supposed ‘science’ they cite is, from what I’ve seen, mostly based on computer models. As another letter writer (Scientist misuses science in argument, Richard Postma) points out, computer models are not science and don’t ‘prove’ anything. While I’m sure that models are a useful tool they can be made to show anything the designer wishes and are only as good as the data input into them to create a guess at the future. As far as I’m aware, the only true ‘scientific’ data available that has a chance of accounting for the millions of years of climate history for which we have no written record comes from polar ice cores, fossil records, etc. All the evidence thus obtained points to many climate changes having occurred naturally in the past. So where has the baseline data which causes the models to conclude that current climate change is unusual and man-made come from?
Mr. Holden also makes reference to red meat and the idea that if “science demands that Americans reduce their hefty consumption of red meat a little, so be it” Well, Mr Holden, it is NOT just “so be it". If I want to eat red meat for every meal of every day of MY life and can afford to buy it, that should be MY choice! I don’t need some nannyist government agency, or special interest group telling me what I can and cannot eat. I think the various bans on transfat have already gone too far.
What about foreign countries? Is red meat to be rationed there, too? Don’t force your agenda on the rest of us.
Now, if Mr. Holden’s concern over red meat is the supposed greenhouse gas emissions of cows, this is the height of hypocrisy. What about all the human greenhouse gas emissions? While cows are bigger, there are a lot more people.
If climate change, despite lack of any real evidence, is actually man-made then it seems to me the real solution is to reduce the earth’s human population, not force inconvenience, restrictions, and expense on the people of the one nation in the world which is supposed to stand for liberty and freedom of choice. But I haven’t heard any of the global warming alarmists suggesting a plan to control population growth, or volunteering to not have kids themselves. Don’t expect to either.

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READER COMMENTS

"What about all the human greenhouse gas emissions?"

Cannibalism = reduced population + more meat for everyone left.

Alan,

Eat as much red meat as you can, save the fish we are running out. Cows are abundant fish are getting scarce..

Every educated person know liberals are idiots.

Alan Thomas wrote with ironic derision:

"The supposed ‘science’ they cite is, from what I’ve seen, mostly based on computer models. "

As apposed to your science, which is pulled from your ass...

Charles B,

Thanks for the laugh, you made my day, very funny!!!!!

” While I’m sure that models are a useful tool they can be made to show anything the designer wishes and are only as good as the data input into them to create a guess at the future”

That isn’t how models are used though, and nor would such a use be valid.
The model predicts both backwards and forwards. It’s backward “postdictions” are checked against what we know of the past, and the forward predictions are checked against what we see from independent variables out in nature.

With complex systems like climate, modeling isn’t just a “useful tool”, it is a vital tool. You cannot really do the science without models, and the only other choice is just not to do the science at all.

” If I want to eat red meat for every meal of every day of MY life and can afford to buy it, that should be MY choice! I don’t need some nannyist government agency, or special interest group telling me what I can and cannot eat. I think the various bans on transfat have already gone too far.”

Fair enough.
I trust that you will provide a waiver and a DNR order so that no government funds are spent on treatment or accommodation of the resulting health problems that may manifest.
I also trust that you will pay your own way and not ask insurance companies to spread your risk amongst other customers.
Finally, you will pay back the investment that the government and the taxpayers made in your education, your protection, and all the social benefits that you have benefited from but will not adequately refund through taxes because you will die early due your meat habit.

Alan Thomas seems to think that all the people who are worried about global warming are in the "the liberal environmentalist crowd". Would someone please bring him up to date? Perhaps send him some newspapers and magazines?

Alan is worried about population growth. He criticizes the global warming people for not suggesting a way to curb that. Then he ends his letter without suggesting a way to curb that. Interesting.

Alan Thomas seems to think that all the people who are worried about global warming are in the "the liberal environmentalist crowd". Would someone please bring him up to date? Perhaps send him some newspapers and magazines?

Alan is worried about population growth. He criticizes the global warming people for not suggesting a way to curb that. Then he ends his letter without suggesting a way to curb that. Interesting.

THE GLOBAL WARMING HOAX IS GETTING PEELED LIKE THE HILLARY ONION:

http://www.investors.com/editorial/EditorialContent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=279848677944646&secure=1&show=1

When are these tin-foil-hat wearing moonbats going to give up?

Hank you still have to wonder why you and the other folks on the far far right wing have politicians rather than any credible, peer-reviewed, field-appropriate scientists on your side of this issue.

Every educated person know liberals are idiots.

Posted by Keith

You can almost picture queef slobbering while writing this bit of nonsense. "every educated person know...." LOL

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