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Turkey may have saved Dems' bacon
Tuesday, November 6 at 12:01 AM

You have to give credit to the Democrats for being brilliant strategists. Things
were looking a little bleak with Gen. David Petraeus' positive account of the
war progress.

What can you do? If the war goes well, President Bush looks good. We can't have
that. How can we hurt the war effort without looking un-American? Let's see ...
we know Turkey is vital to the resupply of our troops. What can we do to turn
that around? Oh, yes! Let's call them genocidal over something that happened about a
hundred years ago.

We don't have any pressing issues to deal with, so let's pass a House bill that
says the killing of Armenians by Turks in 1915 was genocidal!
Brilliant! We can show how opposed we are to genocide without dealing with the
genocide going on in Darfur, and at the same time strike a blow against Bush by
hurting the war effort!

The American people are so stupid they won't pick up on what we've done.

Look! It's already working. Turkey has recalled its ambassador to Washington and
is threatening to cut logistical support to the U.S.!

We are so smart.

Steve Tanberg, Denver


READER COMMENTS

General betrayus read a script! stop drinking the kool-aid Steve!

Posted by TJ on November 6, 2007 01:12 AM

Turkey and the Kurds are going to get into it. Who do we back then? Our allies, Turkey, or our newly minted democracy, somewhat, in Iraq. Kurds live mainly in four countries in the area, and want their own country. Eventually we are going to have to tell Turkey to back off, or bribe the Kurds to stop. This is going to be a mess. Especially since the Kurds want out of Iraq.

Posted by Sharon B. on November 6, 2007 02:10 AM

Iraq-NAM is steeped in racism, ethnic cleansing, WMD lies, oil grab, Muslim extermination, Juedo-Christian goons, etc. ZBlair, Lott, Rice, Powell, Cheney, Hastert, and Delay, should all be tried in an international court for war crimes. Bush is the easy one to dispatch. He should court martial for being a UCMJ-felon, AWOL (40+ years), deserter and guilty of illegal separation and discharge. I doubt if Steve has ever been a dog in the fight or if he has a dog in this fight. Torture is a cowardly act and un-America. 99% (GOP) of the supporters of torture are draft dodgers, who have a history of only serving themselves. They haven't found anything they are willing to die, and neither have their kids. Kissing cousins: Bush, Hitler, Stalin, and Idi Amin.

Posted by draftdodgingisntafamilyvalue on November 6, 2007 04:26 AM

Oh my yes lets rehash, and send a resolution that has TWICE already been passed by the United States Congress on the Armenian slaughter of 1915.

At a time when leftist are screaming the loudest on diplomatic solutions they throw a huge monkey wrench into things then cry foul because it caused problems. Like they didnt know it would.

Then all the koolaid drinkers from the left can jump on the band wagon and continue with thier BDS complexs.

I have a question for world affair experts. Where did you get your trainnning, and how many countries have you actually visited outside of the resorts in Mexico and socialist France?

Posted by on November 6, 2007 06:11 AM

Where is the House Bill claiming Muslim Radicals have been and still are commiting genocide all over the world?

Oh ,that's right that's not PC and the Muslim Radicals are the Democrats friends.

It would be funny if they did pass such a bill and then became targets of a Muslim hit list.

Posted by Can I get an AMEN! on November 6, 2007 06:51 AM

We, as the western new world country, don't stand a chance of changing thousands of years old, old world Islamic belief systems. If the Kurds or any other ethnic or religious group wants something in an islamic country they need to use their own zeal to get what they want.

It has been proven by history that outside intervention in the internal affairs of any Islamic country promotes only hate among the cleric leaders. Therefore, because these clerics hold more power over the people than the government, the people follow in lock step with that hate.

This typifies the chaotic proof of why religion and government don't mix, but more importantly, it points out how any change in an Islamic country's society can only be accomplished from within that country and that any outside influence is not only unwanted and hated but is doomed to failure.

Posted by Allen Campbell on November 6, 2007 07:13 AM

If the war goes well? Where have you been? This war has been a disaster. We were supposed to be a greeted with open arms yada yada yada. Bush and Cheney have been wrong about everything. The GOP has never been worse.

Posted by on November 6, 2007 07:17 AM

---And, if anyone in this country thinks we have the moral right or even the abliity to impose democracy on any islamic country, for the good of the people, that belief flys in the face of historical proof that all who have tried it have failed resulting in their own detriment and increasing the islamic world's hatred of the West.

Posted by Allen Campbell on November 6, 2007 07:32 AM

Steve,you are right,the democraps will do everything to lose this war on terror.It's because of clinton we have to fight this war on terror.

Posted by Keith on November 6, 2007 08:50 AM

Current headline on CNN:
'07 deadliest year for U.S. troops in Iraq

That war is sure going well isnt it?

Posted by flimflam on November 6, 2007 08:52 AM

draftdodgingisntafamilyvalue--I don't even have to see your name to know you've written something. It is an incoherent rant against republicans, Christianity, and ultimately against the United States itself. The forty year UMJC felon shows even more ignorance that hatred. A felon is someone who has been convicted of a felony, not someone who you think did something wrong.

Try not being so boringly predictable. Get another note for your one note screed. Better yet, take a few months off this board.

Posted by Jim on November 6, 2007 08:58 AM

I think Keith (queef) has a mental disorder

Posted by Obvious on November 6, 2007 09:00 AM

Lets see when we started the war it was because Saddam had WMD's and was an imminent threat. Turns out not to be true. So then it was to bring Democracy to the Middle East. Hasn't worked out, they don't want us to be there. Now I have no idea what the reasoning is for this war. It seems to be about just not admitting they were wrong for Republicans. What a disaster. Too bad so many good people have died for the poorly planned and conceived neo-con agenda.

Posted by just sayin' on November 6, 2007 09:25 AM

Tanberg,

I hope the Democrats motivation was less cynical then you ascribe. Whether it was or not, the overarching point is the leadership of the modern Democrat Party cannot be trusted with the nation's security.

Posted by James Jones on November 6, 2007 09:28 AM

flimflam, just sayin'

The news out Iraq has been more positive over the last few weeks so I understand your concern. But don't let that get your spirits down. It's not over yet - failure and defeat is still within sight.

Keep the Dream Alive!

Posted by James Jones on November 6, 2007 09:35 AM

James Jones writes: "the overarching point is the leadership of the modern Democrat Party cannot be trusted with the nation's security."

No, I believe that the other party has done a poor job on national security, and polls indicate that most Americans agree. I'm not saying that the Democratic party is empty of corruption or incompetence, but, really, tell me me how they'd screw it up any more than the current administration has screwed it up.

That's the real overarching point.

Posted by Roll over overarcher on November 6, 2007 09:43 AM

How's your head enjoy that nice warm rectum, JJ?

Posted by on November 6, 2007 10:03 AM

"If the war goes well, President Bush looks good. " Guess the Dems must be sabotaging Bush's glorious victory in Iraq.

That's funny, Tanberg, a real thigh-slapper! Break out the bubbly, order the flowers & let's start unfurling the "mission accomplished" banner!

Do these wingnuts live in some sort of delusional parallel universe?

Posted by drew on November 6, 2007 10:20 AM

Roll over overarcher

"tell me me how they'd screw it up any more than the current administration has screwed it up."

Tanberg did just that. He has a letter at the top fo this thread. You might give it a qucik read.

Posted by James Jones on November 6, 2007 10:20 AM

Hey Jimmy Joe maybe you can tell me what the newest reason is for the war. When will we know if we won? What is the objective?

Posted by just sayin' on November 6, 2007 10:24 AM

You all should go read some of Hal Lindsays books.

Posted by on November 6, 2007 10:35 AM

Poor James Jones's, hes doing all he can for this glorious war, he's spent the whole morning throttling straw men with cheetoh stained fingers.

Posted by flimflam on November 6, 2007 10:52 AM

"The news out Iraq has been more positive over the last few weeks "

Exactly...and as Republican candidate for president Ron Paul said yesterday...one month does not a year make.

2007...bloodiest year of the war.

Can't spin that consistent failure as anything other than what it is....

Time to either start the draft and finally support our troops by sending them the resources necessary for success...OR support them by allowing them to redeploy home or to positions of secure support in country.

Anything else amounts to needlessly putting our troops in harm's way for the sake of politics. I guess there are folks here who still believe that is a viable option.

Pathetic.

Posted by jay on November 6, 2007 11:00 AM

Yes what is the "reason du jour" for this war?

Posted by on November 6, 2007 11:17 AM

just sayin'

Just stay under the bed. We'll tell you when it's over.

Posted by James Jones on November 6, 2007 11:25 AM

jay

"and as Republican candidate for president Ron Paul said yesterday...one month does not a year make."

Really? That is profound. Hard to understand why a man of the insight has so little support.

So how many months does it take? Have you got some polling data on that one?

Posted by James Jones on November 6, 2007 11:29 AM

That is quite an explanation James Jones. I am guessing that you have no idea what the "reason du jour" is for the war. I guess we will just stay there rather than admit the mistake. That is quite a way to support the troops. "Put a yellow sticker on your car and don't worry about it."

Posted by just sayin' on November 6, 2007 12:23 PM

Actually James...support of the anti-war Paul is brisk these days.

"Yesterday, Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul (R-TX), who has “a libertarian tilt and an out-of-Iraq pitch,” set a single day fundraising record for the Republican field by hauling “in more than $4.2 million in nearly 24 hours.” Asked by MSNBC’s Norah O’Donnell this morning about what he “attribute[d]” the “success” of the effort to, Paul said it was his anti-war “message” because Americans “don’t like the war.”

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hyQLduiFMFTNmeUdgpf5cMvLi6awD8SNV5Q02

"Paul’s attribution of his fundraising success to the continuing desire of Americans to end the war in Iraq is supported by a new ABC News/Washington Post poll out today that finds that “a record six in 10 want the level of U.S. forces reduced.” According to ABC’s analysis, the “results…seem to reflect a continued hardening of attitudes on Iraq”:

Views on progress are unchanged from early September, and they haven’t been positive since December 2005, shortly after the Iraqi elections. […]

All told, 63 percent say the war was not worth fighting, almost exactly its average this year, and a majority, steadily since December 2004. Intensity against the war continues to run high, with 51 percent saying they feel “strongly” that it was not worth fighting, more than double its strong supporters."

http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/story?id=3822935&page=1

Posted by jay on November 6, 2007 12:23 PM

Oh and one more thing James. It is the Republican Party playing the fear card not the Democrats. We're fighting them over there instead of here or do you not watch Fox News?

Posted by just sayin' on November 6, 2007 12:32 PM

I don't know whether to despise Keith or feel sorry for him with his limited vocabulary. He says "get the facts" and then says Bush's approval rating is at 35% where every poll has him at 25% causing me to wonder why it is so high but then I am reminded of Keith’s mentality. I am ready to do to him what Burr did to Hamilton and Keith is thinking: What did he do?

Posted by JVB on November 6, 2007 12:53 PM

Just sayin'
The democratic party's fear card is called global warming.
Which is more true, or better yet an immediate threat to our well being?
A. Global Warming
B. Terrorism

Posted by on November 6, 2007 01:10 PM

1:10 is still under the impression that the war in Iraq is about "terrorism"

Education is your friend.

Posted by jay on November 6, 2007 01:30 PM

http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/denver/stein/2007/11/fear_factor.html

Posted by who's afraid on November 6, 2007 03:10 PM

The war in Iraq, in hindsight, has been a mistake. The handling of the War in Iraq by the administration and finger pointing in Congress is deplorable.

Regardless of what the "world's opinion" will be, it is time to withdraw US troops. It is time for Iraq to step up and identify itself how it wants to be identified.

This President ran on no nation building in 2000 and since 2002 has done nothing but attempt to build in the model of Western style democracy in the Middle East, without understanding or acknowledging the history of the region. Liberty needs to come from within, and it is time to recognize that. To the enemy that will declare victory, what do we care what you think or declare?

While this is a change in philosophy for me, it is not as 180 as some may assume. Should another attack occur on US soil (including our Embassies), a swift and devastating response, without regard to collateral damage MUST follow. The power and might of the United States must be demonstrated in full effect, should anyone feel that they have the upper hand in this "war against terrorism." If the escalation of terrorism that so many "experts" predict does occur, the will and ability of the US to withstand and win that fight, MUST be evident.

The Colonists won the Revolutionary War because they broke the conventional rules of engagement with the British. The Allies won World War II, specifically in the Pacific Theater, because the United States broke the rules. The US and it's allies lost in Korea and Vietnam, because we followed the rules and the enemy did not. War is hell. It is terrible and should be ended as quickly as possible, even if it means "breaking the rules."

That is the policy stance the US should take. Who will be willing to do anything about it, really? Look at what has occurred in the last 30 years. Iran kidnaps Americans, holds them hostage for over a year, INVADES sovereign US soil (the US Embassy) and the US and world community does nothing. The Soviets invade Afghanistan, and the world does nothing. These were terribly aggressive moves, not a response to a terrible atrocity. Do what is necessary, should it ever become necessary again. But do it swiftly, and exact extreme pain. It is much easier to apologize, than it is to ask permission.

Posted by Dan2 on November 6, 2007 04:47 PM

War is hell. It is terrible and should be ended as quickly as possible, even if it means "breaking the rules."

What is the limit of this break-the-rules-as-needed-to-win policy? Are war crimes, as defined by Geneva Convention, permissible? And if not explicitly endorsed, should the population simply selectively ignore any war crimes that a given administration unilaterally determines may need to occur to assure victory?

The Germany military and citizenry found this to be a relatively effective strategy, up to a point. And America currently engages in this type of passive disintertest w/r/t the administration's use of torture in this current war.

Or would this policy merely require us to redefine 'war crimes' as excluding any action that America does engage in, no matter how heinous, and simply shrug and say 'war is hell' but we're are the "good" guys, just doing our best to win?

Posted by on November 6, 2007 06:08 PM

The fact that Pakistan isn't even mentioned in this thread demonstrates who out-of-touch folks are, despite the blather about 'Radical Islam'

Here we have an Islamic country, with -real- nuclear weapons, serving as staging area for a resurgent Taliban and likely home to the mastermind of 9/11...teetering on the brink of chaos...and America, despite having pumped in $11B+ funds over the past several years, is simply along for the ride, passively waiting/wishing/hoping events play out in a way that is aligned with our interests.

If ever Americans should be scared it is now.

Unlike Iraq and Iran: the nukes in Pakistan are real, the Islamic terrorists who've successfully attacked American soil are real, and America's inability/unwillingness to do anything to influence the course of events is pathetically real.

And unlike Iraq and Iran, Pakistan has the world's first real "Islamofacist" in Musharraf: a dictator of a country where Islam is the state religion, who suspends the constitution and institutes military rule.

The scariest part of this scenario is that America has to wait another 14 months for a competent leader, Republican or Democrat, to address this issue. Question: do you think Osama bin Laden is going to wait that long?


Posted by on November 6, 2007 06:38 PM

6:38 is critical of describing our enemies as Radical Islam with his "blather" comment and then a few sentences later states there are "Islamic Terrorists".
Do you even read the crap you write?

Posted by on November 6, 2007 07:12 PM

You've got to admire Steve Tanberg's sniveling and flatulence. He is a true gutless representative of his scummy party.

Posted by on November 6, 2007 08:45 PM

Feeble response 7:12 PM.

Posted by on November 6, 2007 09:07 PM

9:07
Funny you would repeat what your mom said last night when you unsuccessfully tried to mount her.

Posted by on November 6, 2007 09:37 PM

Funny you would repeat what your mom said last night when you unsuccessfully tried to mount her.

Ew. What has made today's 'conservatives' so creepy with these bizarre sexual tangents? This occurred in another post recently, and is present on the national political stage too. Any thoughts?

Posted by on November 7, 2007 06:08 AM

Vulgarity is universal, it knows no political allegiance.

Posted by James Jones on November 7, 2007 06:49 AM

Letter writer Steve Tanberg is 100% right.He must be reading my postings.In fact read all the Democrat postings on this page.They are all "cheering " for the terrorists.The Democrat postings prove that Steve is right that the Democrats want the terrorists to win the war.The Democrats hate what this country stands for because they are not getting the free stuff they "feel" they should have.

Posted by An American on November 7, 2007 09:41 AM

Here is a simple test to see if the Democrats are trying to help the terrorists win the war.If you were a terrorist would you say the Democrat posting would make you feel like you have a good chance of winning the war or would you feel like you did not have a good chance to win after reading their postings? Would you feel more encouraged to fight after reading the Democrat postings or less encouraged? I think if you apply this test to the Democrat postings you will see I am right.The Democrats are trying hard to help the terrorists win and trying to get or soldiers killed.Can I get a "Shout Out" on this one ???? It is simple logic !!!

Posted by An American on November 7, 2007 10:00 AM

Here is a simple test to see if the Democrats are trying to help the terrorists win the war.If you were a terrorist would you say the Democrat posting would make you feel like you have a good chance of winning the war or would you feel like you did not have a good chance to win after reading their postings? Would you feel more encouraged to fight after reading the Democrat postings or less encouraged? I think if you apply this test to the Democrat postings you will see I am right.The Democrats are trying hard to help the terrorists win and trying to get or soldiers killed.Can I get a "Shout Out" on this one ???? It is simple logic !!!

Posted by An American on November 7, 2007 10:00 AM

An American:

Do you ever speak in a voice that's not ironic?

Posted by Charles B on November 7, 2007 10:27 AM

The war in Iraq is going so well that 2007 has been the bloodiest year since the war began.

Do you even read the news for God's sake?

Here: http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/index.html

Please get a damned clue, and stop regurgitating conservative propoganda that you heard from Limbaugh, O'Reilly and Fox News.

Posted by Tree Hugger on November 7, 2007 10:48 AM

"Here is a simple test to see if the Democrats are trying to help the terrorists win the war"

It's funny that AA would bring this up...as he belongs to the party that has brought unprecedented success to al Qaeda, decimated our military, made us less safe by further destablizing the middle east and allowing AQ to restrengthen back to 9/10 levels.

What is there not to love about the republican party by the terrorists of which you speak?

Posted by jay on November 7, 2007 11:02 AM

As always An American dodges the questions of his military service ( again none) and why he will not enlist ( cowardness). From An Americans postings on this page and others we can clearly see what a total coward and chickenhawk he is. I would say he is a hateful man, except that to call him a 'man' is a slight to every man in the room. He has been asked repeatedlly to state his military experience (NONE) and to state why he hasnt enlisted. It should be apparent he is too much a coward to enlist, he 'pretends' to support the war but hides under his bed instead of joining our military.
His cowardness makes it obvious that he hates America and hates freedom. His lack of intelligence and his total cowardice shows in every post. If you cant tell us why you are too chicken to enlist can you tell us why you hate this country so much? I encourage every real American in this room to spit on this spineless excuse of a man.

Posted by htieK on November 7, 2007 11:49 AM

Vulgarity is universal, it knows no political allegiance.

Posted by James Jones

you are 100% correct.

Posted by just sayin' on November 7, 2007 12:38 PM

As you may notice the Democrats that have posted did not take the test that I put on my posting at 10:00 AM.The reason they did not take the test is because they know I am right that the Democrats are giving aid and comfort to the terrorists that are killing our soldiers.If the Democrats can't admit this basic truth how can we expect them to be honest on any issue.The answer is we can't !!!!

Posted by An American on November 7, 2007 01:16 PM

Would you Democrats please answer the question!!

Posted by An American on November 7, 2007 01:30 PM

AA do you deny that republican policies have been great for our enemies?

Posted by jay on November 7, 2007 01:51 PM

An American, You're wrong again, Naturally Bush has created more terrorists by getting more and more of the world to be against us. Just after 9/11 we had the support of almost 90% of the world. After 6 years of Bush's incompetence that support is now in the 16% range. Do you think causing more of the world to disdain us is a recipe for fighting terrorism or is it just creating more terrorists?

Posted by Gilbert O'Sullivan on November 7, 2007 01:54 PM

As always An American dodges the questions of his military service ( again none) and why he will not enlist ( cowardness). From An Americans postings on this page and others we can clearly see what a total coward and chickenhawk he is. I would say he is a hateful man, except that to call him a 'man' is a slight to every man in the room. He has been asked repeatedlly to state his military experience (NONE) and to state why he hasnt enlisted. It should be apparent he is too much a coward to enlist, he 'pretends' to support the war but hides under his bed instead of joining our military.
His cowardness makes it obvious that he hates America and hates freedom. His lack of intelligence and his total cowardice shows in every post. If you cant tell us why you are too chicken to enlist can you tell us why you hate this country so much? I encourage every real American in this room to spit on this spineless excuse of a man.

Posted by htieK on November 8, 2007 06:46 AM

Once again Jay and Gilbert O'Sullivan did not answer a basic question.Are the postings of the Democrats on this page encouraging the terrorists to fight on and kill our soldiers?All they do is come back with their distorted opinion.It is so simple all they have to do is read the postings on this page and answer do these postings help the terrorists? The reason they do not answer is they know they are helping the terrorists kill our troops!! I think everybody can see what the Democrats are doing to our country and that is trying to destroy it.

Posted by An American on November 8, 2007 09:03 AM

Let me show you how dishonest the Democrats are.I will answer Jay's question.I think the policies of the Republicans have been good for our country and bad for the terrorists.To Gilbert,I think you have gotten false facts from the media and that is why your conclusions are wrong.Now let's see if they will read the Democrat letters above and answer do these letters help the terrorists and hurt our soldiers?

Posted by An American on November 8, 2007 09:14 AM

"I think the policies of the Republicans have been good for our country and bad for the terrorists."

Now we're gettting somewhere.

Let's go over the facts.

REpublican policies have further destabilized the ME.

Republican policies have decimated our military, leaving it "at the breaking point"...according to our own generals...and at risk of being unable to respond to an actual threat (which Iraq wasn't)...again...according to our own generals

Republican policies have made us less secure financially

Republican policies have taken our eye off the ball and allowed AQ to restrenghen to 9/10 levels

Now...considering those facts, AA....why is it that you think that "Republicans have been good for our counttry and 'bad' for the terrorists"?

Posted by jay on November 8, 2007 10:29 AM

Once again Jay did not answer my question but I answered his.The reason that he did not answer the question is the letters posted by the Democrats are helping the terrorists in their effort to kill our soldiers and helping the terrorists win the war.Jay knows this is obvious.If he answers , he would have to tell the truth which is Democrat letters on this post are aimed to help the terrorists.His silence is 100% proof.This was a trap I intentionally set for Democrats and Jay took the bait.

Posted by An American on November 8, 2007 01:15 PM

"The reason that he did not answer the question is the letters posted by the Democrats are helping the terrorists in their effort to kill our soldiers and helping the terrorists win the war"

lol...this is a myth that has been debunked by our own generals on the ground and even secdef Gates. They have all publically said that the public debate at home about the strategic mistakes made in this quagmire has no effect on our troops nor does it "help" the terrorists.

Lay off the Rush AA.

Posted by jay on November 8, 2007 02:21 PM

So...now that I've addressed your myth AA....care to address the facts in my post about the products of the Republican policy decisions?

how exactly are they "good" for the country and "bad" for the terrorists?

Looking at the facts of the situation....the opposite seems to be true.

Posted by jay on November 8, 2007 02:24 PM

As always An American dodges the questions of his military service ( again none) and why he will not enlist ( cowardness). From An Americans postings on this page and others we can clearly see what a total coward and chickenhawk he is. I would say he is a hateful man, except that to call him a 'man' is a slight to every man in the room. He has been asked repeatedlly to state his military experience (NONE) and to state why he hasnt enlisted. It should be apparent he is too much a coward to enlist, he 'pretends' to support the war but hides under his bed instead of joining our military.
His cowardness makes it obvious that he hates America and hates freedom. His lack of intelligence and his total cowardice shows in every post. If you cant tell us why you are too chicken to enlist can you tell us why you hate this country so much? I encourage every real American in this room to spit on this spineless excuse of a man.

Posted by htieK on November 8, 2007 02:47 PM

An American,

Prove to everyone here how Republicans are so wonderful and Democrats are so terrible.

I served three tours in Iraq since this whole nonsense started.

At least when Clinton lied -- noone died.

Posted by Tree Hugger on November 8, 2007 03:46 PM

First of all Tree Hugger if you served in Irag could you answer the question?Do the postings that the Democrats are writing here help our soldiers?If soldiers read these postings by the Democrats does it make them feel better?If the terrorists read these postings does it make them feel better?If the terrorists read these postings does it encourage them to fight on or make them feel they are losing the war?If you were a soldier you should know the answer to this question.It is simple!!

Posted by An American on November 9, 2007 07:11 AM

The reason I asked the question who do the Democrat postings on this page help the terrorists or our troops is that the answer is obvious.They help the terrorists !!!Jay could not even answer this question when the facts are right in front of him.He had to try to twist the facts to fit his agenda.This is so easy to see.This is how Democrats are on all issues.Because they hate this country they will twist any issue to fit there agenda.This was a trap I set for the Democrats and it worked.Any normal American reading these postings will see the truth.

Posted by An American on November 9, 2007 07:29 AM

I just thought of a way to ask this question that even a Democrat with a public school education will understand.Jay if you were a soldier in Iraq right now and you read the postings on this page by the Democrats would they make you feel better or worse?Jay if you were a terrorist right now in Iraq would these postings make you feel better or worse?I think even Jay can understand this question!!!

Posted by An American on November 9, 2007 07:48 AM

AA are you calling our generals on the ground and Secretary of Defense Gates liars?

They've all come out and say that the debate about the war at home neither hurts the troops nor helps the terrorists?

Come to terms with the debunking.

Now...can will you address the points I made about how the results of Republican policies have been a benefit to the "terrorists" or are you going to continue running like a little girl?

Posted by jay on November 9, 2007 10:06 AM

An American,

Don't waste your time on these lowly public school-educated Democrat simpletons.

Only true geniuses like us who went to private schools, never served in the military and earn more than 90 percent of the country can truly understand why it's so important that our troops remain in Iraq and continue to die on a daily basis.

After all, dying is what military people get paid to do, isn't it?

Posted by Republican Elitist on November 9, 2007 10:08 AM

Republican Elitist : Thank you, Finally I have found someone who understands what I and America are all about. We understand each other and understand that the rest of the American rabble exists only to protect us and our assets.

Posted by An American on November 9, 2007 12:00 PM

From An Americans postings on this page and others we can clearly see what a total coward and chickenhawk he is. I would say he is a hateful man, except that to call him a 'man' is a slight to every man in the room. He has been asked repeatedlly to state his military experience (NONE) and to state why he hasnt enlisted. It should be apparent he is too much a coward to enlist, he 'pretends' to support the war but hides under his bed instead of joining our military.
His cowardness makes it obvious that he hates America and hates freedom. His lack of intelligence and his total cowardice shows in every post. If you cant tell us why you are too chicken to enlist can you tell us why you hate this country so much? I encourage every real American in this room to spit on this spineless excuse of a man.

Posted by htieK on November 9, 2007 12:03 PM

Is it my reading skills or have Tree Hugger and Jay not answered my question?I think we can see they did not answer the question because they know their postings are meant to give aid and comfort to the terrorists.I think all normal Americans can see I have proven my point.We can see that Tree Hugger, Jay and most Democrats are exactly what I have been telling you US hating,terrorists loving Democrats that want to get our troops killed.

Posted by An American on November 9, 2007 12:56 PM

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