Discussion

• December 17, 2006

  5:28 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  Nothing for Smith and a 5 game suspension plus $100,000 to charity because Carmelo through a sucker punch.

• December 17, 2006

  5:29 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  threw a sucker punch I mean.

• December 17, 2006

  5:47 PM

  Herman Johnson writes:

  3 Games for Collins
  5 Games for Robinson
  10 Games For Anthony

  2 Game for George Karl by the Owner of the Nuggets. Karl put Larry Brown above the Denver Nuggets. He wanted to get even with the Knicks for how they handled Brown and put Anthony in position for something dumb to happen. Karl allowed the organization to get a black eye.

• December 17, 2006

  5:52 PM

  Herman Johnson writes:

  3 Games for Collins
  5 Games for Robinson
  10 Games For Anthony

  2 Game for George Karl by the Owner of the Nuggets. Karl put Larry Brown above the Denver Nuggets. He wanted to get even with the Knicks for how they handled Brown and put Anthony in position for something dumb to happen. Karl allowed the organization to get a black eye.

• December 17, 2006

  6:01 PM

  JB writes:

  I think 5 games is good he was wrong but being told by isiah that he should not go to the hole maybe he didn't take it that serious at the time until he saw what happen to not only his teammate but his best friend on the team J.R. Smith he reacted w/o thinking just like what most people do in that type of situation, it's not that serious it's just a throwback from back in the days like Miami/Knicks, Knicks/Bulls, Knicks/Suns and they need to stop comparing it to the Artest now that was serious but mostly everyone said they would have done the same thing it's not about pride or respect when someone does something dumb to you it's what it is a reaction that everyone has so stop trying to make it seem like this is going to destroy the NBA. It's not about a thug mentality no matter where you go low, middle, or high class it happens all over the world on a everyday basis. So how J.R. and how Melo acted was not dumb they just did not think of the circumstances. And last it does not matter if camby and melo was in the game u upset they are in the game so u send a nobody in the game to do something stupid and ignorant to someone now that dude will only be known for that in the NBA and that probably cuts his career even shorter than it was going to be. Now that's dumb instead of you just playing out the game collecting over 6 figures a year riding the bench and playing sometimes, you do something like that

• December 17, 2006

  6:24 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  i agree with herman. karl should be suspended without pay indefinitely. what the hell is he doing playing the starters at the end of a game with a 20 point lead? he obviously had an agenda that led to a debacle. we're all to familiar with airhead leaders like this. this whole incident belongs to karl. harpo

• December 17, 2006

  6:29 PM

  CarmelotheCoward writes:

  Carmelo the coward.. He proved he is a big time COWARD with a cheap shot like that!

  Throw a sucker punch and than RUN backwards the length of the court. He should be suspended for atleast 10 games for that punch and then 5 more games for running away backwards.
  
  He would last less than 2 minutes in the NHL. Teach Tie Domi how to dunk and he would own the NBA.

• December 17, 2006

  6:40 PM

  Jolly Green Giant writes:

  Isiah Thomas should have the worst action against him because he instigated the whole thing by ordering a hard foul, He even told Melo that it was coming. If anything a coach is suppossed to keep his players from doing stupid things not provoke them.

• December 17, 2006

  6:44 PM

  chip tallon writes:

  Suspend All of them for the Season!
  Everyone jumped on Michael Richards for his 'racist' comments, well, this is why there are millions of Michael Richards in America! Enough of these spoiled "atheletes"!

• December 17, 2006

  8:01 PM

  jay byrd writes:

  1 game for all 10 ejectees...boys will be boys. Hell, this little skirmish might warrant only 10 minutes in an NHL penalty box.

  Besides that, it took place in NY, where real gangstas take care of bidness with real weapons, not fists. Fuhgetaboudit!!

  Merry Christmas, NBA!!!

• December 17, 2006

  8:14 PM

  gwats writes:

  A 5-game suspension and a $50,000 fine for each player would send the right message.

• December 17, 2006

  8:28 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  If the NBA really doesn't want to see fights, they should send a real message. You think these guys care about 50k? 100k? It takes them what 3 days to make that? End their season now. Give them some time to think about it. Maybe next time people will show some restraint. These guys need to grow up.

• December 17, 2006

  8:46 PM

  NugsNumber 1 writes:

  Knicks
  Collins - Flagrant 2 Penalty
  Robinson - 3-5 games
  Jefferies- 3-5 Games

  Nuggets
  Smith 3-5 Games
  Anthony 10-20 Games
  Nene and anyone else that left the bench - Automatic 1 game

• December 17, 2006

  9:10 PM

  Matt writes:

  for all of the people who talk all that crap about carmelo, first of all i would love you to do half the nice things that he does he is a great player and person who made an honest mistake, maybe you have done something your not proud of well next time call yourself an ass for that just like you did melo. this is for the guy who said melo talks like he has a load of shit in his mouth your a haorable example to everything you just talked about saying what kind of person your are then making fun of the way someone talks maybe you should think befor you speak cause it sounds like you got shit in your mouth , cause as a teenager i think your the kind of person we need to GET RID OF.

• December 17, 2006

  9:18 PM

  joe writes:

  well i think your all wron why don't you all save your finger pain from the typing like idiots and let the commisioner do his thang. all of your are stupid except a few matt has good points and so does jb he speaks the truth bout it all. well for real do just stop your shit all you.

• December 17, 2006

  9:20 PM

  Ryan Quevedo writes:

  You can talk all about the good things Carmelo does for the Denver community as well as Baltimore, but the bottom line is what he did was cowardly and inexcusable. I understand that in the so called "heat of the battle" your emotions get the best of you, but their is absolutely no excuse for sucker punching someone. He can apologize all he wants but I'm extremely disappointed in his actions. He will never be a Denver sports icon after that incident. It was the final straw!!!!

• December 17, 2006

  9:37 PM

  rediculous writes:

  If you don't want to be embarrased on your own home court, then you should get some better players, coaches, and practice harder. Just because you are losing doesn't give you the right to cheap shot the other team with a flagrant foul! If you do that then expect some retaliation. Is Melo supposed to sit there while 3 knicks are on top of his boy J.R.? Collins was eyeing him the entire time and knew a punch was coming. Melo only backed away because he realized if he were to stay then the situation would've escalated even further. I blame Zeke, boohoo they are beating us too badly, boohoo. It's not like it was the ACC playing the MAC. It's the god damn NY Knicks. You are telling me that we can't dunk on a team if we have a lead?

• December 17, 2006

  10:21 PM

  jim writes:

  Wolf - maybe we are seeing different tapes - Anthony's hit looked like a open hand - not a solid punch

  That said - the penalties

  Knicks

  Isiah Thomas - suspended for the remainder of the year. He ordered the hit - the Don does not get off because the contact hitman delivers the blow
  Robinson - 5 games instigation with height sensitivity training to offset his Napoleonic complex
  Collins - 5 games
  other Knicks on court 1 game

  Nuggest

  Anthony 5 games without pay an instruction by Washington of Tomjavich fame on how to throw a punch
  Rest of nuggests 1 game

  PS Collins owes Smith an apology -

  The euphemism 'hard foul' is sanitization for a mugging of hog collaring by the neck - which could have caused permanent damage - which is much more severe than the the open hand right by Anthony...

• December 17, 2006

  10:28 PM

  Rocky66 writes:

  Ban them all for life. It is the only way to get through th the players that this type of activity will not be allowed.

• December 17, 2006

  11:55 PM

  Former Sports Fan writes:

  If any "working class" folks tried any of this type of crap with fellow workers, guess what? --- they'd be FIRED in a blink! And all for a 35K per year job. I think ALL pro sports need to set some firm standards for junk like this and stick to it, no matter who it is or how much "good" stuff the athlete does for the community. Let them all know, up front, what kind of consequences they will face for actions like these, and then hold them accountable when the crap hits the fan. It's time to let these million dollar babies know what the real world is like --- that when they do stupid crap like this, they'll just have to find another job at the end of the day, like the rest of us.

• December 18, 2006

  5:31 AM

  Stan writes:

  We all saw the "hood" side of Carmelo. He just couldnt resist throwing a punch...then he runs like a coward. Instead of trying to break things up, and being a good role model for the kids, he lets his "street mentality" get the best of him....pitiful.

• December 18, 2006

  5:37 AM

  Stan writes:

  By the way....I think the league needs to hit these millionaires real hard. A $10,000 fine is nothing to them....make it $50,000 and 10 games for everybody that threw punches. Maybe that will get their attention.

• December 18, 2006

  6:20 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  Matt

  There is no excuse for throwing a sucker punch like Anthony did. He has too much money to be doing that. He lost his cool and I think his true personality came out. Nobody wants to be around a man who throws sucker punches. Not cool. The rest of the fights were no big deal in my opinion.

• December 18, 2006

  6:26 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  "If any "working class" folks tried any of this type of crap with fellow workers, guess what? --- they'd be FIRED in a blink! And all for a 35K per year job"

  Fired,banned for life from the company you worked for and sent to prison. Someone making $35,00 a year or less would also lose contact with their kids, have a criminal record and the list goes on and on.

• December 18, 2006

  7:22 AM

  just sayin' writes:

  Isiah should be suspended twice as long as Anthony. He started the mess and he has always been a punk.

• December 18, 2006

  8:02 AM

  Observer writes:

  You can take the boy outta the ghetto, but you can't take the, well, you know the rest.

  These idiots are a bunch of overpaid, gangsta wannabe thugs.

  Suspend the entire group of starters on both sides. For the season, at full loss of pay. Let's see how soon they want to try this crap again.

• December 18, 2006

  8:21 AM

  Joel writes:

  Yet another reason why the NBA is a pile of trash. Send all these losers home for good.

• December 18, 2006

  8:30 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  Zero tolerance. All these players should be thrown out for 90 days, fined heavily. If it happens again banned from the game. This game must have strict rules, and proper order or it's the end of professional sports. GET IT!!!

• December 18, 2006

  8:35 AM

  hate these losers!!!! writes:

  This is exactly what I would expect from all of these wannabe gangstas. Spineless punks that would only fight in a group and then run right after throwing a cheap shot.

  I wish there was some way to send all of these ghetto niggers back to where they came from. To put these spineless people on a proffessional basketball team is total stupidity.

  All of this stupid hip hop culture with the phony tattoos and ear rings makes me ill. Not a one of these kids has any balls! We need to have the fans attack the floor and beat all of these kids ourselves instead of letting them do the hitting.

  Pussies!!!!!!!

• December 18, 2006

  8:55 AM

  Donkey Hotey writes:

  Suspend Thomas for the season. Collins for 15 games. This is the second consecutive game in which he has instigated trouble by committing a late flagrant foul in retaliation for a blowout loss. Coaches putting out hits on players on the floor goes far beyond anything else related to this brawl.

  Melo should get 5-8. Robinson should serve the same.

• December 18, 2006

  9:12 AM

  JS writes:

  It just goes to show the caliber of people in the majority of sports today, including Plumber!!!!!!

• December 18, 2006

  9:15 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  Why is no one being charge with assault, disordley conduct, and any other charge permissable by law? Its on freaking tape for crying out loud!!! Put em in prison so they can hang out with their daddys who are already serving 50 to life..

• December 18, 2006

  9:19 AM

  just sayin' writes:

  What's with all the rascist rhetoric from these posters? SI has a web article about the biggest brawls in sports and there are more white people involved than blacks. Hockey has brawls everyday and it is the rednecks going toe to toe. Start thinking outside the box. (pull your head out of your butt)

• December 18, 2006

  9:25 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  I agree that these LOSERS should be fired. Period. They are classless idiots with zero professionalism. They are what's wrong with hip-hop and rap culture. They don't deserve the money they make at all. Maybe they'd realize how lucky they are if they actually had to WORK for a living! And the coach that ordered the so-called "hit" needs to be fired, too. IDIOTS!

• December 18, 2006

  9:25 AM

  Dale writes:

  Make the Nug's give the film to the Av's to review for some tips. Kick Thomas out of the NBA, he's always been a problem. Now he's just a bad apple in The Big Apple.

• December 18, 2006

  9:55 AM

  Ottis writes:

  The real question here: Who cares? I mean, who watches the NBA anymore? I can't believe it is on TV as much as it is. And no one expects these players to act any better than they do. The NBA is played out. Its culture is a joke. Its play is embarrassing. Yawn. Let's move along and let it keep killing itself.

• December 18, 2006

  10:36 AM

  Jim writes:

  Everyone of the players that were involved in the brawl should be suspended for the rest of the year with a million dollar fine each.
  For petes sake, there idiots are supposed to be professional athletes and there are so many young children that look up to these jerkwads, it isn't funny. Not to mention the outrageous salaries they all make for throwing a ball into a hoop. Get a grip people, everyone of our sports players are so overpaid it isn't funny. \
  Do you think that anyone of them is worth being paid multi millions for playing ball or hockey for a period of 4 to 6 mths every year.
  And then consider that teachers are paid in the realm of from 30,000 to 65,000 a year for teaching your children. How lopsided is this?

• December 18, 2006

  10:41 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  If I punched someone at my job, I would get fired. Funny how this role-model thing works.

• December 18, 2006

  10:43 AM

  Obvious writes:

  I wonder how people like Jim feel regarding the salaries of some of our CEO's. Joe Nacchio was paid over $250 Million his last year with Qwest. People are always whining about sports stars and their salaries but they don't compare to other entertainers and CEO's who act on each others Board of Directors and pay each other absurd amounts of money. CEO's in this country are paid astronomical sums compared to CEO's in Japan Europe etc.

• December 18, 2006

  10:45 AM

  Lucas writes:

  I think the real story here should be that Mardy Collins got what he deserved. Just too bad the league's leading scorer had to do it. Granted it was an unprofessional thing to do but so is endangering J.R.'s career by tackling him. The Knicks are a bunch of second rate basketball players. If Nate Robinson would have kept out of it there wouldn't have been a brawl. For the whole Knicks team to hide behind the fact that we were blowing them out is just a stupid excuse. Boo Hoo. As for the suspensions I hope the league doesn't go overboard after all the biggest risk of injury was actually during the Mardy Collins flagrant and he got popped in the mouth for it as he should of.

• December 18, 2006

  10:48 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  "What's with all the rascist rhetoric from these posters?"

  The racist comments are actually from fbi informants and drug addicted parolees who bait others to post racist comments and then get bust them busted. RMN refuses to make this a paid forum or to get a proper BBS script so the slime is always posting their vile hate speech here. It's the neocons that are on a mission to trash any free forum or blog.

  If I was RMN I would make it a paid forum where people could ignore the trash talkers with the click of a button. RMN would have to hire a forum administrator and work with the police to make sure and prosecute those that make violent threats via RMN boards.

  Until that happens the same group of criminals will trash every forums they infect.

  It's the same group of losers doing this on most forums. They are criminals many who are black themselves simply trying to cause trouble and for some reason RMN gives them a free pass.

  CAA and his goober friends have been posting vile for months without RMN deleting his posts.

• December 18, 2006

  11:09 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  http://www.thedenverchannel.com/sports/10560349/detail.html

  This punishment is a joke. These clowns should be up on assault and disorderly conduct charges. Instead, they will sit around a while and remain useless.

  It must be a nice thing to be a pampered minority athlete, and be able to choose what laws you wish to obey (if any)

• December 18, 2006

  11:20 AM

  Dr. Phil writes:

  Good post Arnie, but I think that as usual, you are repressing your true feelings. Please tell us what you really mean, and don't hold back just to be nice.

• December 18, 2006

  11:24 AM

  jz writes:

  "It just goes to show the caliber of people in the majority of sports today, including Plumber!!!!!!

  Posted by JS on December 18, 2006 09:12 AM "
  Your plumber is in sports?

• December 18, 2006

  11:31 AM

  Michael writes:

  Hoodlums, punks, criminals, thugs, bullies, spolied brats, etc. Take your pick. Having a million (or more) in the bank, wearing "bling", and talking rap don't get you no respect. If pro sports did not exist, 99% of these guys would be in jail or dead.

• December 18, 2006

  11:38 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  Michael states:
  If pro sports did not exist, 99% of these guys would be in jail or dead.

  
  And this would be a problem for what reason...?

• December 18, 2006

  11:51 AM

  Dale writes:

  I have no problem with the fines, but wait a minute. Thomas ordered the cheap hit (not a hard foul) and doesn't even get a kiss from the NBA (at least not in public) and the thug that gave the cheap hit gets less that they guy that took it. Who's paying who off on this one.

• December 18, 2006

  11:56 AM

  sean writes:

  Isiah Thomas orchestrates the thuggery that started it all and gets nothing??? He dosen't call for the cheap foul because he can't take the whupp'n like a man so he threatens players on the floor??? This is why I don't care about the NBA. DAVID STERN YOU ARE A #$@% JOKE!!!!!!

• December 18, 2006

  11:57 AM

  Mike writes:

  It's unfortunate that Carmelo deserves a suspension for striking
  another player during a game, but he does. However, unless the league
  also suspends the New York player who committed the hard foul (which
  prompted the brawl) for one calendar year, Melo's suspension should
  not exceed one game.
  The league could do a lot to forestall future such events by acting
  now and decisively to take "hard" fouls out of the game by issuing an
  automatic and draconian suspension to any player who in the future
  commits a 'hard foul' which upon review seems intended to intimidate
  or to 'send a message' to any opposing player or team.
  I for one had given up on pro basketball and until the Nuggets
  enjoyed their recent resurgence had not invested my loyalty in any
  team since Shaq dumped his fans in Orlando for the 'big time' in
  L.A. If the league does not act here with brutal decisiveness I will
  have no choice but to conclude that money alone drives the NBA. And
  since their profits in no way benefit me, why then should I benefit
  them by following the action? I will have to put them in the category
  of pro base ball, which has continued without attracting my interest
  since the owners and players both flushed a World Series with their
  greed.
  Baseball cannot re-attract me without banning steroids through
  independent weekly year-round testing of every player. Basketball
  risks the same future with me should the league not take action to
  eliminate 'basketbrawl' from the court.

• December 18, 2006

  12:02 PM

  NBAfan writes:

  I think that the suspensions were way to harsh. I don't think what they did is excusible, but I am getting sick of Stern running the league like it is a dictatorship. If league posterboy LeBron did this he wouldn't get the same treatment. And did somebody say something about the NHL what is that? Does anyone even watch that anymore? I am so glad the NHL strike happened now we don't have to watch that bullshit on ESPN anymore except the couple minutes they waste during sportscenter showing highlights.

• December 18, 2006

  12:21 PM

  Dave writes:

  Go sucker punch your co-worker and see what happens to you. This is reason #1000 why I have ceased to watch or support the NBA. Until they quite bringing in gang banger wanna-bees, i have no interest in ever coming back.

• December 18, 2006

  1:07 PM

  Was once an NBA Fan writes:

  I think the suspensions are far too lenient, each player involved should have received Season long suspensions as well as forfeited their salaries to Charities. Both Coaches too should be fined & suspended.
  This is just another reason why the NBA should only be televised on BET & MTV. These types of players & incidents have only trashed what was once a premiere sport in America. This is THUG Ball, nothing else.
  As for Marh-Melo, what an embarrassment, throws a cheap shot sucker punch, then runs away, afraid to stand up for his behavior. Perhaps the NBA should shut down EACH Franchise for 15 games & force the organization to surrender salaries & profits to Charitable organizations. There is no place in Sports in America for this type of behavior. Severe fines for 3rd, 4th person , bench clearing escalations need to be addressed by each league with Franchise shutdowns, not the itsy bitsy slap on the hands that these spoiled, overpaid thugs now get.

• December 18, 2006

  1:12 PM

  David writes:

  I say this should convince the NBA and all other major sports leagues that they can't draft teenagers. They may have grown up bodies and physical skills but are lagging mentally.

• December 18, 2006

  1:13 PM

  Bigg Dogg writes:

  The key players in this brawl, including Melo, should be suspended for th remainder of the season.

  The incident shows why people have lost interest in NBA basketball.....the league is more about selfish "me-first" egos than it is about basketball.

• December 18, 2006

  1:20 PM

  Old White Guy writes:

  I gave up on watching or attending NBA games years ago. The NBA is the only reason you never see 6'4" or taller thugs selling dope on street corners and doing drive-bys. As supposedly mad and otherwise upset the Knicks players and coaches were that Denver was running up the score, if a Knicks player had an opportunity to dunk the ball, he would still have mugged for the cameras as if he had just knocked out Muhammad Ali... all while his team was losing by 20+ points...lol

  It's no longer a game - it's an exhibition... "Look at me, look at me... I'm tall and can jump real high, just like I used to do in the 'hood when I could clear a chain-link fence in a single bound... with a stolen car stereo in one hand and a piece in the other. Where’s my endorsement money, bitch?!"

  All the players who are suspended should have to do 8 hours a day in a volunteer setting for the duration of their suspension (homeless shelter, learning hospital, etc.) to remind them where they would be if they were 6" shorter.

• December 18, 2006

  1:27 PM

  charles writes:

  It seems odd to me that people keep comparing these NBA players to thugs, and state they they no-longer watch the NBA because of this behavior, It's not just the NBA that has become more violent, we live in a violent society. The WWE is famous world wide for it's violence. Players in the NHL are paid strictly for beiong thugs and hurting people. Baseball pitchers throw 90 mile-per-hour fastballs at peoples heads, none of these individuals are compared to thugs, might race have something to do with these comparisons???

• December 18, 2006

  1:30 PM

  Nuggets are a joke writes:

  There is no news about the suspensions on the Nuggets team website. Congratulations to the Knicks for reporting the news on their team website. Apparently, professionalism and integrity of reporting is not a priority for the Nuggets franchise. This organization is a joke from the top down. I have been following the Nuggets and going to a lot of games since i could barley walk, and have supported them so much. I just purchased a game package last week after holding off at the beg. of the season because of frustration with the franchise. I have always wanted to give them a second chance in my heart. But now, I don't know what to do. No so much becasue of the brawl, but because the lack of credible reporting on the website and the attempt to just ignore the situation disgusts me. How disfunctional can we get? 351926

• December 18, 2006

  1:37 PM

  Ashley writes:

  The only pathetic aspect to this discussion is the typical white trash, ignorant rascist commentary. You guys are the real cowards, posting anonymous hatred on a message board. Who cares about Carmelo and his little scuff? That stuff happens in all sports. But still, the rascism on this board is out of hand and embarassing. Just goes to show how far we have to go as a species and how medieval we all are. Stupid, stupid fearful people. You all need to read more and meditate.

• December 18, 2006

  1:38 PM

  Henry writes:

  When I was growing-up basketball was a non-contact sport and we were a kinder gentler nation. This basketbrawl is indicative of current professional sports and is headed down a path of destruction. How will Carmelo apologize to the fans and the young basketball players in middle school, high school, and college? The Nuggets organization is sending a message to our youth that this type of behavior is OK, when in fact it is not!
  All coaches should band together and offer the following zero-tolerance message, the Nuggets should be suspended from Television appearances for at least the rest of the season. All players involved should be removed from the NBA for one year. After all, think of what the consequences would be in middle school, high school, or NCAA athletics!
  This was not just a brawl of a few guys in the NBA, it affects all basketball, at all levels.

• December 18, 2006

  1:41 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  NBA, MLB, NHL, NFL... it's all the same. I mentioned only the NBA as that was the focus of this particular thread. Hell... it's even invaded Little League. I remember a couple years ago that a player hit a home run in the Little League World Series and for the last 20 feet or so from Home plate, he did some sort of weird ape-like walk and mugged for the cameras. His coach jumped his ass afterward, but it was too late... the kid was already infected with the "look at me, I'm a badass M.F." syndrome he obviously picked up from watching professional sports.

  The thug attitudes and one-upmanship antics should have been quashed from professional sports years ago, but it sells so it was allowed. I can't think of another business where the more tattoos you have, the more potty-mouthed you are and the farther you can remove yourself from seeming "professional", you actually make MORE money and and gain more fame.

• December 18, 2006

  1:44 PM

  Old White Guy writes:

  The "NBA, MLB, NHL, NFL..." post was mine, BTW

• December 18, 2006

  1:56 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  I do not watch basketball because I also feel they are a bunch of thugs. Anthony threw a sucker punch that would have landed everyone else but a pro athlete in prison. I refuse to pay to see pro hockey because of the fights. The Broncos are for corporate dweebs. The fans are a joke to players in my opinion. The only pro sport I will pay to watch is middle-weight boxing. At the end of the day the athletes and owners could care less about their fans. They are in it to make as much cash as they can for themselves.

• December 18, 2006

  2:15 PM

  A.Ganley writes:

  These players do not deserve our hard earned money. Ticket prices up 30% at the Pepsi Center? I will not go to another game there again, and I have been going to see the Nugs for 17 years. I love basketball, but clearly the NBA is not the game I love. It is tailored for the video game zombie, me-first, style over substance generation and I hope that marketing plan continues to backfire and slowly self destruct. There is no poise and sportsmanship left in that league, and the fundamentals of the game have been waning for years. But, I really do not think that fighting is so big a deal as to casue so much outrage. Look at the NHL, WWF, etc... it's all just overblown entertainment for fools anyway. Pro sports and pro players are no longer worthy of our time and money. Violence sells in America in every form of media. And yeah, teachers salaries when compared to NBA super-salaries is just plain disgusting! I encourage everyone to vote with their dollars by holding on to them.

• December 18, 2006

  2:24 PM

  sweet sixteen rules writes:

  Jolly Green Giant got it right. Isiah Thomas should be fined and suspended for the rest of the year for putting a target on the first player up the middle and Stan Kroenke should make Carmelo pay the $500,000 plus pay for the 15 game suspension. Kroenke is the biggest loser when they lose revenue due to lost of playoffs not to mention losing t.v. revenue and i`m sure attendance will be down. Nice one mello you dork. Now you have time to smoke your`e weed with you`re homys or better yet you can get filmed in a drug smuggling operation or what ever he was involved with. it is too bad i really thought Carmello might be a role model but i guess money got the best of him as well as all the other thugs playing pro sports.
  I hope the nuggets win every game without smello.

• December 18, 2006

  2:27 PM

  thesob writes:

  Melo should have received a 25 game suspension for that sucker punch. Now if he suckered punched Thomas, then it should have been only a 5 game suspension.

• December 18, 2006

  2:32 PM

  'twas me writes:

  That was not a sucker punch 'Melo threw. Collins was asking for it and saw it coming. He could have protected himself. It's not 'Melo's fault he's too slow - guess that's why he's at the end of the bench.

  The entire Knicks organization should just be disbanded. They're a team that's loaded with thugs from Isiah to Marbury and on down the the cowardly Collins and Robinson.

  What a joke. The NBA is telling everyone it's ok to tackle someone at the end of the game if your team is getting blown out, but it's not ok to defend yourself or your teammates from a gang pretending to be a basketball team.

  I wish Boykins would have been on the floor so he could have picked up Robinson and thrown him half-way down the court.

• December 18, 2006

  2:43 PM

  Michael writes:

  You're all nuts! The only media guy in this town who tells it like it is and states the case for Melo is Dino Costa. If you listened to his radio show today he nailed it on the head as usual. Melo deserved much less than what he got fomr the NBA. How can the Knicks coach get off scott free in this matter? The Nuggets hsould sue the NBA for ruining whatever chances they had of winning this season. 15 games? Come on David Stern!

• December 18, 2006

  2:46 PM

  Victor writes:

  Yes my brother...DINO COSTA!

  www.dinocosta.com
  

• December 18, 2006

  2:56 PM

  Alan writes:

  I can't believe that Isaiah Thomas would actually say that his team "surrendered." If that was the case, then the Knicks should have left the court. G. Karl does not have to justify keeping his starters in at any point during a game in which all players are well paid to play a competitive sport. Melo has to maintain his composure but for Thomas to be issuing warnings is unprofessional, at best, and has no place in any professional sport.

• December 18, 2006

  3:16 PM

  mrsb writes:

  Old White Guy has it nailed! When did we decide it was great to pay these jerks obscene amounts of money, and worship their sorry asses? The only part of the punishment that's unfair is that it was not nearly severe enough, and they all keep getting paid while they sit it out.

• December 18, 2006

  4:08 PM

  'twas me writes:

  "The only part of the punishment that's unfair is that it was not nearly severe enough, and they all keep getting paid while they sit it out.

  Posted by mrsb on December 18, 2006 03:16 PM"

  Why are you posting on something you obviously know absolutely nothing about? The players do not get paid for they games they are suspended for. As for your racism, why don't you go to the Bronx and shout out about how much you dislike blacks and see what happens? And take Old White Guy with you.

• December 18, 2006

  4:53 PM

  fsc123 writes:

  I lost respect for anthony last year, and for the NBA for good this one. Basketball at one time was fun to watch, now its about tatoos and money, Anthony will never be a super star like james, or wade, because he lacks character!!! Giving to charity does not buy respect, its still something you earn, and he has earned my disrespect.

• December 18, 2006

  4:59 PM

  GaryG writes:

  Mello has a lot of growing up to do...maybe this will help. Just remember - NO RETALIATION!
  I'm glad Stern is trying to clean things up - he's got a ways to go.
  And Isiah Thomas - biggest joke of all. Always a classless act, he lays the groundwork for the fight and as yet no suspension. Inexcusable.

• December 18, 2006

  5:30 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  Just thought I'd drop by and see what in the wide, wide world of sports people were posting about this issue.

  I learned my lesson with pro sports chumps many moons ago. When the baseball players struck because 5, 7, 10 million a year wasn't good enough, I quit watching them on TV or in the stadium - to this day, they get exactly zero of my dollars. When hockey players struck again, I said "that's it" and I haven't been back and I ain't going back. When basketball players struck however many years ago that was, I threw their greedy asses in the shitcan with the rest of them. You all should do the same and stop supporting these overpaid prima donnas.

• December 18, 2006

  6:02 PM

  Dale writes:

  Wasn't the news a few years back that Isiah was gay? Could he and Stern's be bed fellows? Neither one of them belongs in the NBA.

• December 18, 2006

  9:34 PM

  Fred Houston writes:

  Wow. Lots of latent racism among this group! Where it starts is with your punk coach, George Karl. He nicely set the stage for the brawl by leaving his starters in for garbage time. Can't you chumps see that?

• December 19, 2006

  4:28 AM

  Mark Pumphrey writes:

  I have found that the greatest revenge is success. The Nuggets including Melo will have a chance to take it to the court. If last night is any idication they are on their way.

• December 19, 2006

  7:29 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  Hey Fred, what a dumbass. Once again, you prove that a person sees what they WANT to see.

  A coach leaving the starters in the game for so-called "garbage time" isn't unusual for any other team - I've seen the Lakers, the Sonics, and the Clippers do it to us in the last month or so - and that didn't make it "okay" for us to lasso tackle one of their top guys in a way that could have caused a severe injury. I see nowhere in your comment anything about Isaiah Thomas actually being caught on camera threatening Anthony.

  As for comments of racism, there are about two or three on here from short-sighted dipshits that were brought up by ignorant parents who use racist terminology because they're just too stupid to understand that people are just people - you're going to have to get over it buddy, because you aren't going to change it - but you won't get by with making it sound like all the comments have a basis in racism.

  Now, go back to bed, get a few more hours of sleep, and try to wake back up in the real world. If you can't do that, think about your comments before you actually post so you might make one that is intellligent. And if you can't do that, then just don't post at all.

• December 19, 2006

  7:52 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  What I love here is that because the players are black, any words critical of their behaviour is labeled "racism"...Sorry, but when basketball becomes about rap, bling and bad tattoos, the racism label starts to fit.

  If you want to see real racism, look beyond Mel Gibson, Michael Richards or this farce and listen to the bile spewed up by Jesse Jackson, Dave Chappel, Snoop Dogg, Al Sharpton or Kayne West.
  

• December 19, 2006

  8:01 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  All of these guys should have been arrested for being black in public

• December 19, 2006

  8:20 AM

  zc writes:

  This was a gentlemen sport, but greed is turning this great sport into somethin' entirely to the other side. A black mark. No pun intended!

• December 19, 2006

  8:34 AM

  Bronccrushfan writes:

  This is just another glorious example of how Stern has taken a great game, and completely ruined it. He has allowed this kind of behavior, since his tenure as the Commissioner. Now all of a sudden he wants to start toughening up? Hey queer boy, its like being your kids friend when they are little, and then try and become a disciplinarian when they become teenagers. I am okay with the 15 game suspension, because punches were thrown, however the knicks player who performed the flying neck throw on JR Smith should have received the identical punishment. Until you take the gutter trash out of the league, these problems will continue. Like Mark Cuban has said before, the league needs a real commissioner, and not the limp wristed pansy it has now.

• December 19, 2006

  9:46 AM

  prima facie writes:

  Carmelo Anthony should get 15 games for the sucker punch and 15 more for running away.

• December 19, 2006

  10:09 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  prima facie .... you should get 45 for being stupid, but that didn't happen either

• December 19, 2006

  10:14 AM

  No need writes:

  What a waste of perfectly good bandwidth. To devote more than a minute of my life to this stupid discussion is 60 good seconds wasted, that I'll never get back.
  Screw em all. Let em beat the crap outa eachother every game, every day, every minute. I don't care.
  Nothing more than a bunch of o'paid punks with no education who wanna be like Tyrone Braxton.
  Oh yea, and that wasn't Smello's weed in the backpack either, was it?? Damn!! I just wasted 2 minutes of my life.

• December 19, 2006

  10:27 AM

  Phony apology writes:

  Was listening to the radio on the way home, and Smellos 'aplogy' was being discussed. Mention was made that "Whoever wrote that apology for Smello, did a really good job". Truer words...
  Smello can't put two sentences together. Anyone who believes that he feels the way 'whoever' wrote that apology for him to read, which I doubt he he can even read beyond an 8th grade level, is dumber than him. And to think he thought that this wonderful, heart felt apology would cover his butt and lessen the punishment. Guess he thinks we're as dumb as him on that one too.
  Punk Thugs is too much of a compliment for these ghetto rats.

• December 19, 2006

  10:34 AM

  remo writes:

  Man - I can't believe Marvin Lewis didn't order his players to go after Peyton Manning last night when he was still in the game dropping back to pass with an 18 point lead and only 5 minutes to go. Isiah certainly would have had Cincy going after his knees...

  That's for all of you morons who think George Karl was to blame for the shoving match. Do you even have an idea how stupid that is and sounds??? Get a clue.

• December 19, 2006

  10:37 AM

  prima facie writes:

  The Denver Post ran Anthony's "apology" in Monday's paper ... and corrected a spelling error for this fine gentleman. He mentioned the youth center that "bares" his name, instead of the correct "bears."

  Sorry to see a Syracuse education go to waste....

• December 19, 2006

  12:33 PM

  prima facie writes:

  Fred Houston, last time I checked the NBA was a professional sports leagues. They don't have mercy rules and requirements that all the scrubeenies get their alloted minutes.

  The Knicks could have avoided being "embarrassed" in their "house" (to quote Isiah Thomas apologists all over) by playing better.

  Thuggery aside, the Nuggets did show respect for the game and their opponent by competing to the end.

• December 19, 2006

  12:59 PM

  Old White Guy writes:

  As for your racism, why don't you go to the Bronx and shout out about how much you dislike blacks and see what happens? And take Old White Guy with you.
  Posted by 'twas me on December 18, 2006 04:08 PM

  I never mentioned the color of anyone's skin in either of my posts. I mentioned being tall, though, so maybe I'm biased toward people over 6'4"...lol
  What you and a few others have done is show your true 'colors' - when someone says "thug" or "hood" your own bias comes out, if you automatically think skin color when those words are mentioned.

  The epitome of "thug" in basketball history is Isiah Thomas' former teammate, a lily white man named Bill Lambier.... :-)
  

• December 19, 2006

  1:04 PM

  Reco writes:

  "If I thought somebody had given a specific order to injure another player, I would react very differently. I don't believe that happened here." said David Stern about Isiah Thomas.

  So even though Thomas was caught on tape mouthing the words 'don't go into the paint', and even though the foul at the end was obviously directed by Thomas, Stern still believes otherwise.

  I'm guessing that Stern's magic eight ball must be broken.

• December 19, 2006

  1:45 PM

  Carlos Effing writes:

  It never bothers me to see spoiled, egotistical overpaid athletes like Melo get chopped down to size every once in a while. In this case, the league was much too lenient on Melo, and on everyone else involved.

• December 19, 2006

  1:49 PM

  Bigg Dogg writes:

  Bringing in Allen Iverson.... a proven non-winner..... makres absolutely no sense for the D-Nugs. Iverson has great one-on-one skills, but as his track record proves, cannot lead his team to success.....even in the pi$$-weak Eastern Conference.

• December 19, 2006

  2:05 PM

  Lucas writes:

  Hey Stern... Suspend That! Great move for the Nuggets. The chemistry may takje a while to come around, but can you picture a faster line-up in the NBA.

• December 19, 2006

  4:14 PM

  milloy36 writes:

  How can these "give me the ball I want to shoot" play on the same team? The Nuggets are already fast enough. "Did you see how Carmello ran down the floor after he sucked the Knicks player?"