Discussion

• December 6, 2006

  9:07 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  why are the topics so lame on todays blog

• December 6, 2006

  9:46 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  I was going to say the same thing yesterday when the Snippy thread was put up...

• December 6, 2006

  10:49 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  Kids dont need school! they needs guns and a free trip to Irans border

• December 6, 2006

  11:01 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  Is there a Hope supporter than can comment on the schools rankings as last in the state?

• December 6, 2006

  1:55 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  The failure that is the DPS system continues to be propped up with various bandaid taxes and spending programs. What more in the way of evidence does a populous need to finally send it to the scrap heap and start over?

  The Preschoolmatters group has hoodwinked the generous taxpayers by setting up a free tuition program for non-english speaking anchor kids of illegals as a way of taking the strain off of the ESL program which is about to implode. They will get their English instruction one year early in a posh program of their choice. Who of us really thinks that a needs-based test for tuition credits will go to any other than those families that accept slave wages to work here and send their non-english speaking US born kids into our schools? Do you really believe that a single white kid pictured with Chickenlooper will ever be the beneficiary of this largess?

  Stupid is as stupid does - 1A.

• December 6, 2006

  2:40 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  Doesn't Hakala's kid do the Hope online school? Looks like the apple isn't going to fall too far from the tree in that household...

• December 6, 2006

  3:07 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  As a former preschool teacher for 14 years,I think the preschool tax is a waste of money.Children need to go to at least 2-3 years of preschool to get the benefits touted by the ads on TV.The one with the teacher who claims one year of preschool would make a huge difference in her class is kidding herself.
  What makes a quality preschool and how is the city of Denver going to decide?What they will do is get a commitee of highly paid people to sit around and judge what is good and what is not.Costing the tax payers millions of dollars in the long run.
  DPS can't even run their schools and get results.How are they supposed to get a preschool voucher program up and running.I see a great place for the city to waste millions of dollars .I also see the needs of children that will never be met with one year of preschool.

• December 6, 2006

  3:09 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  Yes Hakalas kids go to Hope, proving he is a lousy parent and a dipshit blogger who should get his fat ass off the computer and raise better kids.

• December 6, 2006

  3:20 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  Good to see you today Harry. Brilliant points from you, as always.

• December 6, 2006

  4:19 PM

  DPS Sucks writes:

  We can only hope 1A falls under a court ruling pointing out its inherent mixing of religion and state governement. That being said, the real reason it should be tossed is that it is a crock - a feel good snake oil sold to gullible Denver taxpayers - the same guilt-ridden group that can't bear to euthanize the decades of failure DPS.

• December 6, 2006

  7:55 PM

  karen writes:

  I hope these good test results mean that we will be spared another year of incessant griping by the teachers unions about how unfair the CSAP is.

• December 6, 2006

  9:06 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  No, it just means one more year that our children will spend more time getting prepped for the CSAP and less time learning.

• December 7, 2006

  8:36 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  Let's face it: 1A is another POS social program that will benefit illegals, and not do one damn thing for the middle class who will be paying for it.

  The real travesty is that Hicky spent much of his time this year campaigning for it, along with his special rights for gays initiave, when he could have been dealing with the real issues. Instead, we have an election day debacle and no snow removal last week. Nice job Hicky!

• December 7, 2006

  9:03 AM

  jay writes:

  If that's the most "damage" Hick does...he's the best mayor we've had in decades.

  As my grandfather used to say...don't make mountains out of molehills.

• December 7, 2006

  10:34 AM

  David Hakala writes:

  "Doesn't Hakala's kid do the Hope online school? "

  No, he "does" the Colorado Virtual Academy. The Hope program involves commuting to "learning centers". COVA can be "done" from any place where a Web browser is available, at any time.

  I really don't give a damn how the school is doing in the myopic, irrelevant opinion of the CDE.

  My son's grades are satisfactory.

  I don't have to roust him out of bed at 6:00 a.m.

  It takes him only 15 seconds to get to and from school, with the expense of RTD.

  He hasn't been mugged, robbed, or persecuted for his religious beliefs as he was at "real" schools.

  I haven't received a single phone call about sagging pants, Marilyn Manson t-shirts, or "inappropriate" essays about why marijuana should be legalized and President Antichrist should be exorcised.

  We have found the perfect way to satisfy the compulsory schooling law! :-)

• December 7, 2006

  10:35 AM

  David Hakala writes:

  Damn this lame-dick blog editor! I meant, "it takes him only 15 seconds to get to and from school, WITHOUT the expense of RTD".

• December 7, 2006

  11:11 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  And you have found the perfect way to shield your son from social activities that would have benefitted him for the rest of his life and sound lessons on things like evolution and global warming. well done.

• December 7, 2006

  11:19 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  Yeah, let's send all our kids to some online academy, rather than expecting them to be able to function in the world like the rest of us. This brought to you by the same generation that gave us t-ball leagues where "everybody wins", so nobody's feelings are hurt.

  We all know nobody ever needs to learn social skills. Hakala's post alone is living proof of that.

• December 7, 2006

  11:46 AM

  David Hakala writes:

  "Yeah, let's send all our kids to some online academy, rather than expecting them to be able to function in the world like the rest of us. "

  O, Dinosaur, the world in which our kids must be able to function bears little resemblance to yours. Online collaboration is the present as well as the future.

  Another clueless idiot surmises,

  "You have found the perfect way to shield your son from social activities that would have benefitted him for the rest of his life and sound lessons on things like evolution and global warming."

  Nearly all social activities that one is likely to need after graduation are forbidden and harshly punished in public schools. There is little demand for football players and cheerleaders in adult society. Bootlicking may be useful in your career, but my son and I have higher hopes for his.

  Your presumption about what my son learns of evolution and global warming suggest that you think online schools are only a haven for religious ostriches. That may have been true in years past, but secular curricula constitute the fastest-growing segment of the online education market today. COVA, being a public school, does not teach Dominionism or "intelligent design".

  My family is as secular as they get. I practice Zen Buddhism and my son pursues the strictly humanistic philosophy of Anton Szandor LaVey. Neither is based upon any supernatural suppositions, nor do they ignore reality in favor of expectations.

• December 7, 2006

  12:19 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  As my grandfather used to say...don't make mountains out of molehills.

  Posted by jay on December 7, 2006 09:03 AM

  That says alot when a sanctuary city mayor is on record as routinely hiring illegals until one shot one of his cops. That ain't no molehile. Disenfranchising tens of thousands of voters ain't no molehill. Partisans like jay of course miss the significance of all of this.

• December 7, 2006

  12:22 PM

  Hick this writes:

  Right....how come the buck never seems to park itself anywhere near Chickenlooper? One pass after another from the Democraps and their minions at the DP and RMN.

• December 7, 2006

  1:07 PM

  jay writes:

  And political hacks like you seem to always make the dumbest statements implying outrageous things like Hickenlooper (or the governor's office in general) were responsible or had oversight of the decision to hire the software company whose server crashed during the election. You sounds as if you honestly believe he caused the mess to happen to deliberately mess with the election results. And remind me Crouton....which party has consistently stood against more enforcement of our labor laws?

  I honestly don't know how you dress and feed yourself

• December 7, 2006

  2:47 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  And idiots like jay like to pin blame for failures on those in charge, especially Republicans he hates. When the tables are turned, pindicks like jay will all of a sudden seek the individual and ignore the chain of command. Classic liberal hypocrisy offered up again by a classic idiot.

  Despite it being common knowledge that Chickenlooper stood by and watched a slow motion train crash occur, morons like jay can somehow look past this and act as if the election failure was a surprise. It wasn't a surprise to the Denver govnt. officials and employess who had been criticizing the election board appointed by - guess who- Hicky for weeks prior to Nov 7th.

  Save your innane excuses and redirection jayhole. You lose again.

• December 7, 2006

  2:55 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  Hey jay you MORON. Hickenloopers culpability is the result of inaction in the face of mountains of evidence heralding a massive failure. He stood by a waited for the sh*t to hit the fan and then went into hiding thereafter. He appointed the Election Board. He is ultimately responsible for their failures, or is that only a one-sided political concept in your spongy mind?
  It's a wonder you could even begin to procreate.

• December 7, 2006

  3:24 PM

  jay writes:

  Post your proof that Hickenlooper "stood by" and I'll concede the point. Otherwise...we're done here as you are starting to bore me.

  Like playing dodgeball with children.

• December 7, 2006

  3:42 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  Review the comments of city officials in the days following the elections in the Denver Post about the foreknowledge of the problem. That is all the proof anyone would need - even a cretin like you.

• December 7, 2006

  3:49 PM

  jay writes:

  So you're saying you have absolutely no proof to back up your ridiculous allegations...as usual.

  We're done here.

  Thanks for playing.

• December 7, 2006

  4:13 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  Same tired old tactics jay. Can't you come up with anything new? You must be the anonymous blogger "No link, no cred" as it is a simple way to avoid the debate.

  There were numerous articles in the Denver Post citing city officials as the blame game started pointing their fingers at one another admitting that there were problems identified well prior to the election. People have gone on record saying that they complained to their superiors in the city administration but nothing was done.

  Now you may call this "no proof" that Hickenlooper sat back and did nothing, but even a dolt like you has to agree that since there was so much chatter and worry prior to Nov 7, then the proof is really in what Hicky did or didn't do under those circumstances. He appointed the Election Commission - he is ultimately responsible for their successes and failures.

  A non-partisan election analysis group cited the Denver election as one of the worse ever regarding the outright disenfranchisement of voters. This was not simply due to the failure of a piece of software as you have defended. Judges have gone on record complaining of the poor training they had. The list goes on....

  Why wouldn't you hold the CEO of Denver culpable for that kind of notariety? Oh that's right. You can talk the talk but stumble on your face when you attempt the walk. You are a hypocrite supreme.

• December 7, 2006

  4:22 PM

  Scooter writes:

  Valiant try 4:13. Jay is aware of those news articles and the post election analysis that points out the multiple levels of failure on the part of Denver to hold a fair election. He is in Democratic Denial, that ubiquitous disease that affects brain-damaged liberals who can't accept the truth even when it is giving them a hummer.

• December 7, 2006

  4:28 PM

  Jenn writes:

  Not even an arguable point that the election failed due to many dropped balls and none of the higher ups want to accept responsibility. Jay is an idiot to dismiss the overwhelming evidence.

• December 7, 2006

  4:33 PM

  jay writes:

  I never said the election wasn't a fiasco, nor did I ever claim that those reponsible shouldn't be held accountable. I called the nutter out on the claim that Hickenlooper "stood by" and did nothing while intentionally disenfranchising voters.

  No proof of which was offered because none exists...as usual.

  Damn nice try though

• December 7, 2006

  4:38 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  I've seen jay do this other times when he is unable to mount any kind of rational debate. Maybe he will re-review the Denver Post articles I cited.

  thanks for your comments Jenn + Scooter.

• December 7, 2006

  4:44 PM

  jay writes:

  Get back to me when you stop making ridiculous claims Crouton...or at least have the nuts (and info) to back them up.

• December 7, 2006

  4:48 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  Where in my past post did I use the term "intentionally"? You have added that now as a means of bailing your butt out of another innane discourse. There is more than adequate proof that our CEO stood by during the run up to a predicted debacle and did nothing to mitigate it - intention is immaterial.

  You are a consummate idiot jay.
  Thanks for displaying your credentials once again.

• December 7, 2006

  4:51 PM

  Scooter writes:

  What a prick you are jay. You expect someone to type the content of newspaper articles for your satisfaction. Get a life asshole.

• December 7, 2006

  4:54 PM

  Jenn writes:

  Scooter, this is jay's life. Isn't that apparent?

• December 7, 2006

  5:02 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  I'm not sticking up for jay, but it sounds like you "nutters" don't have much of a case here.

  http://www.denverpost.com/election/ci_4635001

• December 7, 2006

  5:04 PM

  A different opinion writes:

  Look people. Mayor H is the boss. He appointed the commission that oversaw the failed election. I read the Post and noted the finger pointing and admissions by city workers that concerns predated the election by weeks or months. End of story. It is obvious that as boss Mayor H is responsible for the mess particularly since it was seen on the horizon prior to 11/7. To deny this is to do what ol Mayor H is doing now - burying his head in the sand and waiting for the furor to die down.

• December 7, 2006

  5:08 PM

  Anonymous writes:

  Well said 5:04. Most rational people know that the captain is where the buck stops. Our captain failed - plain and simple.

• December 7, 2006

  5:10 PM

  Jenn writes:

  Actually you have the same opinion as most consumers of local news. It was all out there over the last month.

• December 7, 2006

  5:14 PM

  A different opinion writes:

  I just wished Mayor H would have come out the day after the election and told us that as chief in charge he accepts responsibility for the mess. Instead he let subordinates duke it out to cover their own butts while he stayed eerily silent.

• December 7, 2006

  5:16 PM

  Scooter writes:

  No different than the case of the mutes he got when one of his former employees killed a cop and ran to the border.

• December 7, 2006

  6:55 PM

  David Hakala writes:

  "Look people. Mayor H is the boss. He appointed the commission that oversaw the failed election. "

  Look again, Post reader. The mayor appoints one Denver Election Commission member and the public elects the other two. The DEC is not accountable to the mayor. The best Hick could do is fire one of the three top idiots, but he can't touch the other idiots they've hired..

  If you want heads, mount a recall election.

• December 8, 2006

  7:13 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  Denver can't run an election, but they sure know how to spin the numbers on school improvement.They are also very good at spinning csap scores.Anything to make their broken down school system look like it's actually teaching some kids.

• December 8, 2006

  7:54 AM

  Anonymous writes:

  While touting the many virtues of online education, Hakala claims:
  "My son's grades are satisfactory."

  Well, as a father, I am sure that makes you feel very...adequate.

  Maybe you want to aim a little bit higher than "satisfactory" unless you want to support him well into his forties...