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February 7, 2008 8:34 AM

Is it nutty to call pregnant teens slutty?

Rep. Larry Liston said

Rep. Larry Liston's remarks were made during a discussion of Colorado's high teen pregnancy rate with health care professionals at a Republican legislative caucus lunch.

"In my parents' day and age, they were sent away, they were shunned, they were called what they are. There was at least a sense of shame," Liston said of unmarried teen parents. "There's no sense of shame today. Society condones it . . . I think it's wrong. They're sluts. And I don't mean just the women. I mean the men too."

The Colorado Springs Gazette reports on reactions to Liston's remarks:

Rep. Stella Garza Hicks, a Colorado Springs Republican who was at the meeting, said afterward she was “disturbed” and “offended” by his use of the term “sluts” to refer to young people who have to live with a mistake they’ve made.

“I feel that he owes the apology somewhere, whether it’s to the same group that he spoke to before or someone else,” said Garza Hicks, who did not confront Liston at the time because she said she was so surprised by the statement. “There’s got to be something brought out of this that it doesn’t happen again."

Colorado Health Foundation senior program officer Lorez Meinhold said shame has been shown to do little to change values and behavior.

Instead, she said, state leaders should look at the lack of public programs that are aimed at preventing teen pregnancy. She said that United Way of Greater Milwaukee dedicates $900,000 per year to such programs and that Wisconsin is in the bottom 10 states for teen pregnancy rates.

Agree with Liston's remarks?

Discussion

  • February 7, 2008

    9:14 AM

    ML writes:

    Well, at least he included the boys with the girls.

  • February 7, 2008

    9:23 AM

    just sayin' writes:

    Maybe Larry would prefer that they got abortions and hid their shame? Certianly wouldn't want to provide sex education and birth control to avoid the unwanted pregnancy in the first place.What a total tool.

  • February 7, 2008

    9:36 AM

    David Hakala writes:

    Mr. Liston provides no evidence that shame reduced teen pregnancies back in his parents' day. He seems to want shame for shame's sake.

    That said, I think there is some truth to the argument that single motherhood is glamorized in the minds of some girls. That should not be. They don't understand the awesome responsibility. The solution, I think, is more education about preventing pregnancy and adoption as an alternative to abortion or single parenting.

  • February 7, 2008

    9:39 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    the solution is to kill the liberals and problems will start to solve themselves

  • February 7, 2008

    9:44 AM

    gr8fuldude writes:

    One would think that after years of Maury Povich doing his show, that single motherhood would have lost its cachet.

    When I was 19, my gf of the time and I had a condom break. For three weeks, I was panicked about having to quit school and support a family. Thankfully, it didn't happen.

    All that said, I think the term "slut" is a little strong, but consider the source, it is the Springs after all.

  • February 7, 2008

    9:57 AM

    JMH writes:

    Colorado Springs Republicans probably think all girls are sluts, since none want to have sex with THEM!

  • February 7, 2008

    10:13 AM

    just sayin' writes:

    Didn't Larry Liston play Ferret Face on MASH?

  • February 7, 2008

    10:16 AM

    gr8fuldude writes:

    Just - That was Larry Linville, but it sounds like this clown is pretty close to the character.

  • February 7, 2008

    10:25 AM

    Tree writes:

    The guy is pissed his wife doesn't give courtesy reach a-rounds. He's another Tom Delay, goes off to the islands and has a field day with teenage prosty's. Like a dog humping in the park, try to stop it.

  • February 7, 2008

    10:27 AM

    Shaggy writes:

    Whether it is to harsh a term or not, thats what we called the loose girls in school. You never wanted to go out with them in public but always wanted to hook up with them when no one was around to see you.
    Everyone in school knew who the sluts were.

  • February 7, 2008

    10:44 AM

    Holier Than Thou writes:

    Just because a young girl gets pregnant before marriage doesn't mean she's a slut. She might have been raped. Maybe the dude promised to marry her. Or she simply dropped the aspirin.

    Liston may know all about sluts from personal experience.

    A woman who likes sex is a good woman.

    A woman who makes you spend a lot of time and money on her and then likes to have sex with a bum is a slut... a dirty, lowdown, good-for-nothing, ignorant slut.

  • February 7, 2008

    10:54 AM

    Tbone writes:

    wow. neocons actively calling for the death of their fellow liberal countrymen at 9:39.

    The once great republican party has truly sunk to depths never before seen.

    But it is the liberals that are full of hate, right shaggy?

  • February 7, 2008

    11:03 AM

    Astute Person writes:

    HTT,
    This has nothing to do with young girls getting raped. Please stay in touch with reality. Because that is what this is about. It isn't about an epidemic of young girls getting raped and becoming pregnant.

  • February 7, 2008

    11:10 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    What do you expect? The guys a Republican. Of course he's filled with hate, and he's also probably jealous that those same teenage girls wouldn't have sex with him.

  • February 7, 2008

    11:22 AM

    leftside writes:

    You just can't make this stuff up.

    Kicking photographers, calling teenage girls sluts, when are the Republicans going to elect someone with more than a high school mentality.

  • February 7, 2008

    11:34 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    So much hateful glee coming from the left on this blog. Larry Garcia must be relieved.

  • February 7, 2008

    11:36 AM

    Kevin Jones writes:

    The way people go on and on about teen pregnancy, you'd think nobody got married right out of high school anymore.

    For equity's sake, any criticism of an unwed teen mother must also call the father of the baby a cad. It's also unfair that women who make a mistake but go through with the pregnancy face more animus than the young men and women who have done far worse by aborting the child they conceived.

    While stigma against fornication should not be eliminated, one can't be too harsh towards these cases because too much stigma could end a baby's life.

  • February 7, 2008

    12:07 PM

    SASQUATCH writes:

    That's noting. You should have heard what Liston said about that liberal Democrat DICKEY SHAKER, Garcia. Its unprintable.

  • February 7, 2008

    1:28 PM

    gb writes:

    Your post on the front page teaser link says 'Is it nutty to call pregnant TEAMS slutty?', instead of teens. The typos sometimes make big difference, don't you think?

  • February 7, 2008

    1:54 PM

    just sayin' writes:

    Show of hands, how many people waited until they were married to have sex? (now that is a sub-set of mostly unattractive people)

  • February 7, 2008

    2:03 PM

    Hogar De Vuelta (العودة) aka ignorant strawman warmonger racist without friends writes:

    Calling people names is just as wrong as having sex outside of marriage. We all sin, the difference is that some people celebrate their sin, and others work on reducing their sinning.

    Set high standards for your own behavior and then be very merciful in your treatment of others.

  • February 7, 2008

    2:05 PM

    Still Drunknk writes:

    Doesn't Liston have a daughter??? Is he trying to say something about her?

    Either way, I would hate to be her right now...

  • February 7, 2008

    2:46 PM

    Anthony writes:

    His comment was wack but there needs to be SOMETHING or SOME WAY to prevent teens from having babies. I have a family FULL of girls that got pregnant early in their teen years and it's just bad for everyone involved...these young girls lose their childhood, we as taxpayers have to pay their bills, and it takes away from the quality of life that they could have potentially reached had they not been pregnant. Not to mention, these kids at 13, 14,15 can't make good life decisions for THEMSELVES LET ALONE A BABY!...

  • February 7, 2008

    3:01 PM

    Forrest Gump writes:

    Gee Anthony, did you ever think about sitting down and actually talking with your girls about sex, birth control, etc.?
    Stupid is as stupid does...

  • February 7, 2008

    4:59 PM

    Holier Than Thou writes:

    Yo Astute Person,

    Try to live up to your byline, will ya?

    My point is that unmarried girls and women get pregnant for lots of reasons and it doesn't necessarily mean they're sluts, OK?

    But that doesn't mean that some of them aren't sluts. Women who willingly allow themselves to be inseminated by bums and then pop out more bums are certainly sluts. The world has a surplus of bums. We don't need any more. Sluts...

    By the way, a bum is a dude who won't work or marry the woman unless she's eager to put a roof over his head, buy him food and booze, and generally play mama for him and his kids. Such women are not only sluts, they are also certified as idiots, morons, dupes, and suckers.

    As liberal as I am, I kind of like conservatives like Liston when they make straight talk in plain English. It's refreshing, even if I believe he is stereo-typing teenage or single pregnancy.

    The solution is fairly well known and scientifically proven. Provide teenagers with sex education and access to contraceptives. A good sex education would include a short course for girls on how to recognize and brush off the talkative puffed-up bums who just want to get in their pants.

  • February 7, 2008

    5:00 PM

    JMH writes:

    Problem with Neo-Cons is the only college cheerleader they EVER wanted to have sex with is George W. Bush!!!

  • February 7, 2008

    5:16 PM

    Kevin Jones writes:

    Come to think of it, there is probably more of a stigma against virginity than there is against premarital sex right now. No wonder there are so many poor little bastards running about, and many more who didn't survive the abortionist.

  • February 7, 2008

    7:18 PM

    Brian in Evans writes:

    As a Democrat, speaking about this Republican, I must say..... He was ABSOLUTELY correct! in what he said. He hit the naiL on the head. Anybody that is offended is, well, stupid. Honestly. how can that offend anybody with an ounce of common sense? This society is pathetic when somebody speaks up about an ongoing tragedy, children having children and generally being LOUSY PARENTS and raising lousy kids, and he gets crucified instead of the complete idiots doing the deed. Pollitically correct has gone WAY too far. His comments are correct, people saying otherwise are absolutely moronic.

  • February 7, 2008

    8:27 PM

    The Graphite writes:

    Once again, we have a Republican who does the right thing, and then apologizes for it. God bless Rep. Liston for speaking the truth, even if he had the cowardice to retreat from it afterward in the face of intolerant liberal bullies.

    If you don’t call a spade a spade, people get hurt, even by the thousands or tens of thousands. The “judge not” mentality is utterly devoid of reason or rationality — you cannot function in life without judging. The only question is whether you judge rightly. And if you pretend something wrong is right, like I said, people get hurt, sometimes even killed.

    When Liston said “In my parents’ day and age, they were sent away, they were shunned, they were called what they are. There was at least a sense of shame. There’s no sense of shame today. Society condones it … I think it’s wrong. They’re sluts. And I don’t mean just the women. I mean the men, too.” … that was one of the wisest and most beautifully right things I’ve heard a politician say in a very long time.

    Also, the man obviously isn’t referring to the victims of rape, for crying out loud. What a preposterous straw man. He’s clearly referring to sexually irresponsible youth.

    There is such a thing as loving someone right into a grave.

    What kids need today is for someone to love them enough to tell them the truth. That’s exactly what Liston did, until his cowardice took over.

    Do right, and risk the consequences.

  • February 7, 2008

    9:01 PM

    Don't Wait Until Sunday writes:

    When it became known that Mary was pregnant, a scribe noted that she was not married, and called her a slut. Joseph, betrothed to Mary, decided to break off his engagement. But God came to Joseph in a dream and said, "To Mary thee shall wed, for she carries my child, and he shall be named King of Kings."

  • February 7, 2008

    9:42 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    Mary was certainly not a slut. She was chosen by God specifically because she was a virgin! Are you kidding? And Joseph married her because He trusted God that she was a still a virgin, not despite the fact that she was a slut. Good grief, get your facts straight. If you want to hide behind the Bible, don't rewrite it first.

  • February 7, 2008

    9:54 PM

    Dave writes:

    Very constructive comments. I'm sure pregnant teens and teen mothers and fathers everywhere are benefiting from these wise words. Probably exactly what Jesus would have said.

    He should legislate and have a large red 'S' tattooed on each of these women's foreheads since it is such an effective practical way to deal with this social problem.

    Too bad Liston isn't in charge of health care in this country so he could take care of all those who can't afford health insurance by calling them poor sick jerks.

    I'm sure he could solve all the problems in the Middle East too by telling all the Muslims they are evil bastards (and sluts).

    This is the way we solved problems on the playground at my grade school along with a little pushing and shoving. It's nice to see Liston getting back to 'old school' fundamentals like this.

    Way to go Liston, you slut!

  • February 8, 2008

    5:07 AM

    KneeDeep writes:

    I sure am glad that Larry was able to put the problem of teenage pregnancy in perspective. The answer is simple, shun the sluts! That is sure to make things better. I see on his web site that he is quick to proudly profess his Christian faith. I am also happy that as he states, he is "proud to be a man". I am befuddled however that his statement seems to be at odds with the base tenant of Christianity, do you not worship a forgiving and loving god? Also I am confused, if a young girl becomes pregnant by someone who is "proud to be a man" where is the retribution for the male slut?

    Since he decided to make a comment on this issue, it is fair to ask, "Were you a virgin when you married your wife Mary Ann at age 32"?
    More importantly, and because he believes in the "Sanctity of Marriage" as stated on the web site, is this his second wife? If so, how do you reconcile the "Sanctity of marriage"? Please let us know, I am a Conservative but I am tired of those who profess to be conservatives who have hijacked the party and changed it to a form of religious fundamentalism. In my mind this is much the same as what we are fighting in the Middle East. I have no desire to see the Republican party become the American Taliban!

  • February 8, 2008

    5:27 AM

    Kneedeep writes:

    As an addition to the following, understand that I am in no way minimizing or discounting the perception or acceptance of teen pregnancy. It is a problem to accept this as a norm. Understand however that man has not changed, nor has the age changed when teens begin to have sex. There was a reason that, in the past, many were married at age 16 or younger. To hearken back to the “good old days” is ridiculous. This is not an issue of Liberal vs Necon it is an issue of blatant hypocrisy!

  • February 8, 2008

    6:35 AM

    Nicole writes:

    I bet he is also against sex education in schools...
    This was the opening to the "the talk" at my house:
    Everybody has sex, it is just a matter of where and with whom- use a condom and remember you don't have to have to sex with anyone you don't want to. Do it because you want to.
    I'd say my father is a genius because although he didn't want his 16 year old children having sex he knew there was a possibility that we would. Kids are having sex- not all of them but a lot of them. Calling them sluts only turns them away from adults more. Judging young, hormone driven people won't change the pregnancy rate. Giving them information and the access to birth control will. And, if we are going to call them names, the correct labels would be horny, insecure and ignorant.

  • February 8, 2008

    7:10 AM

    Kneedeep writes:

    Nicole,
    You left out one name we should be calling them...Human.

  • February 8, 2008

    8:28 AM

    S.D. writes:

    I was orphaned at 14 and homeless at 17. Social services placed me with a family member who promptly put me on the street. I obtained a job, found an apartment in a dangerous part of town, and lied about my address so that I could finish high school.

    Within a few days of graduation, I was sexually assaulted by a man who could be described as much older. No one believed me. I became pregnant and had no money, support, or medical care. I lost the child at 24 weeks.

    I guess my situation made me a slut, eh, Larry Liston?

    Things are not black and white, are they? Stop assuming that all situations are the same.

  • February 8, 2008

    8:39 AM

    just sayin writes:

    S.D. Maybe your the one assuming all situation are the same in regards to Larry's comments.

  • February 8, 2008

    8:53 AM

    Mary writes:

    A slut (by definition) is a person, especially a woman, considered sexually promiscuous where promiscuous is defined as having casual sexual relations frequently with different partners; indiscriminate in the choice of sexual partners.

    Some of the children who end up with babies of their own (who like to think of themselves as adults) are promiscuous - but some are not. What about the girl who gets sexually involved with her first "love" - and becomes pregnant only having ONE partner? Or the boy who is sexually involved with his first "love" and fathers a child only having ONE partner? Are they sluts, or simply naive - having only had sex education which is based on abstinence only? Should they know better? Probably - but what if they truly do not know the consequences - or subscribe to the theory that "it was just once - what could happen"? Sexual escapades on TV or in the movies rarely show consequences (including pregnancy, HIV, other STDs, even the emotional issues which arise at the end of a relationship which are compounded when there is a sexual component) - and they rarely make it clear that even when ADULTS have sexual relationships they usually are using some form of contraception. We will ignore the fact that a number of teen-age girls are raped, or taken advantage of by men in positions of trust (teachers, ministers, etc) - and some of them choose to carry those pregnancies to term - are they sluts?

    Parents, often unwilling or unable to discuss sexual issues with their children, choose to turn a blind eye to what the children watch & what the children do - then become "surprised" and angered when they become grandparents. Some of these same parents have been thru multiple relationships, setting the example that the children follow.

    Society chooses to ignore the fact that despite marriage age being higher, in the US, sexual contact starts earlier than ever before (remember - Juliet was about 14 & Romeo was about 18 - average ages for marriage in the era of that play - today's kids are having sex as early as 11 or 12 - which is appalling) - and the "holier than thou's" seem to think that telling kids to "just say no" to sex in a society which uses sex to advertise everything from toothpaste to cars is going to prevent pregnancy (Because "just say no" worked so well with drugs perhaps? Wait - it failed miserably there too.). Interestingly enough, in Europe, which has more complete sex education (covering pregnancy, STDs, contraception, etc) - the average age of first sexual contact is closer to 18 - and rarely ends with an unplanned pregnancy.

    Is the Colorado Springs lawmaker willing to demand integrity in advertising, a return to "adult content" on television being after 9PM, parental or guardian responsibiity for children's behavior, and "full coverage" sex education? If not - perhaps there is a word for him. The word is FOOL.

  • February 8, 2008

    9:51 AM

    JMH writes:

    I'm with you Nicole. I find it interesting that the same people who would look down on these people are the same people who would cry and scream about sex education in schools...

    Teenagers are gonna have sex. Period. Isn't it better to prepare them intelligently for it than to shun them and call them sluts?

    By the time I was 14 or 15, my mother was buying my brother and I condoms all the time. She wasn't encouraging us to have sex, but she was realistic enough to know we were! I was a bit of a "slut" for quite some time (some may say I still am...haha), but I don't have any kids and I attribute that to my mother being realistic, informative and honest with us as teenagers!

  • February 8, 2008

    10:28 AM

    Solidad writes:

    Fine, take a liberal position about teen sex and blame others for the plights of these teenagers and the children they create. Please at the same time show some respect for the taxpayers and don't presume the rest of us should pay for this liberal attitude and its real-life consequences.

  • February 8, 2008

    11:10 AM

    KneeDeep writes:

    I am amazed, why is it that no matter what the issue, there are those that must reduce any issue to liberal vs conservative? How in the world is this a liberal issue or a conservative issue? As a conservative I find this very much beyond Lib vs Neocon. Are you people crazy? Poll a teenager and pose this to them and they will answer with DUH. Our (parents) ideology is thrown out the window when a zipper is pulled in the backseat of the car. There is a name for teens who rely solely on abstinence for preventing unwanted pregnancies….. parents! Anyone who thinks differently is either single or they do not have teenage children.

  • February 8, 2008

    1:48 PM

    just sayin' writes:

    stop using my handle

  • February 8, 2008

    2:20 PM

    They also serve who only stand and wait writes:

    Love those pics of the repairs in I-25, with at least 9 guys standing there watching 3 or 4 guys actually doing the work? Ah yes--government jobs--gotta love it.

  • February 8, 2008

    7:20 PM

    U.S. Chamber of Commerce writes:

    We need more illegal aliens to lean on shovels and get paid to do it, that sinkhole will never get finished without illegal aliens leaning on those shovels.

  • February 9, 2008

    10:18 AM

    jim writes:

    A slut is a woman with the morals of a man.

  • February 9, 2008

    7:14 PM

    Former Teenager writes:

    I have names for Rep Liston that are on par with his names for teenagers. Perhaps Nazi, for asserting state sanctioned values. But I know that is uncalled for, unproductive, and very insulting.

    Freedom of speech isn't at issue, its the idea that I'm discussing. Rep. Liston can go shove it as far as I'm concerned.

    First, lets please start calling it UNWANTED pregnancy, there are married teenagers about, ok? Second, contrary to the accusation that teenagers dump the kids on the family or state, back that up please; all the people I know took care of their own kid, worked a job, and finished school--some even got married.

    Third, in response to:
    "Posted by gr8fuldude on February 7, 2008 09:44 AM---the solution is to kill the liberals and problems will start to solve themselves"

    ...Go ahead and try it punk, and you'll find a surprisingly large amount of lead in the back of your skull. Can you say liberally armed? I don't take kindly to threats.


    Nodding to those that pointed out that this isn't a liberal/conservative problem, and to those that pointed out how shame is completely unproductive, thank you for your input. But here's the emotion I get when an old white republican talks about my friends that way:

    All you preachy self-righteous prudes can shut the F*** up. I'm a liberal, I'm sexually active, and I'm smart about it, and theirs not a damn thing you can do about it. You wanna mess with us personally and you'll be in a world of hurt. As for public policy, we're winning this culture war, haha, f*** off.

    Thats the emotion: so I ask you this. Is that emotional reaction helpful in the people, the "sluts," you are trying to help?

  • February 9, 2008

    7:15 PM

    Former Teenager writes:

    I have names for Rep Liston that are on par with his names for teenagers. Perhaps Nazi, for asserting state sanctioned values. But I know that is uncalled for, unproductive, and very insulting.

    Freedom of speech isn't at issue, its the idea that I'm discussing. Rep. Liston can go shove it as far as I'm concerned.

    First, lets please start calling it UNWANTED pregnancy, there are married teenagers about, ok? Second, contrary to the accusation that teenagers dump the kids on the family or state, back that up please; all the people I know took care of their own kid, worked a job, and finished school--some even got married.

    Third, in response to:
    "Posted by gr8fuldude on February 7, 2008 09:44 AM---the solution is to kill the liberals and problems will start to solve themselves"

    ...Go ahead and try it punk, and you'll find a surprisingly large amount of lead in the back of your skull. Can you say liberally armed? I don't take kindly to threats.


    Nodding to those that pointed out that this isn't a liberal/conservative problem, and to those that pointed out how shame is completely unproductive, thank you for your input. But here's the emotion I get when an old white republican talks about my friends that way:

    All you preachy self-righteous prudes can shut the F*** up. I'm a liberal, I'm sexually active, and I'm smart about it, and theirs not a damn thing you can do about it. You wanna mess with us personally and you'll be in a world of hurt. As for public policy, we're winning this culture war, haha, f*** off.

    Thats the emotion: so I ask you this. Is that emotional reaction helpful in the people, the "sluts," you are trying to help?

  • February 11, 2008

    7:54 AM

    ML writes:

    Former Teenager (aren't we all?), just to clarify...it was not gr8fuldude who posted that comment you mentioned. It was an anonymous poster at 9:39am on Feb. 7.

  • February 11, 2008

    9:33 AM

    just sayin' writes:

    um solidad, a liberal position would be to provide sex education and access to contraception. There is no reason to have unwanted pregnancies. The conservative position is to keep kids ignorant and thus create these unwanted pregnancies. Oh and to call the girls sluts and shame them.

  • February 11, 2008

    4:45 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    I say we keep all kids sterile until they turn 25yrs old.

  • February 11, 2008

    8:34 PM

    Poof writes:

    Um, justignorant
    The teaching of abstinence informs teens how to avoid unwanted pregnancies. The teaching of how to have safe sex is what leads to those unwanted pregnancies, or is that too complex for your cheezy brain?

  • February 12, 2008

    7:49 AM

    just sayin' writes:

    Hey Poop, how does safe sex lead to unwanted pregnancies? Do you even know what safe sex is? Teaching abstinence has really worked well over the last several hundred years. (I don't think anyone has been having sex before they get married.) What a tool

  • February 12, 2008

    1:25 PM

    Poof writes:

    Just Ignorant:
    Sex, safe or otherwise, leads to unwanted pregnancies.

    Boy are you stupid.

  • February 12, 2008

    2:42 PM

    jay writes:

    gee....the countries with the most liberal sex ed policies and the most access to contraception have the lowest abortion rates on the planet...

    ...you'd think the religious right would get the message...

  • February 13, 2008

    10:23 AM

    just sayin' writes:

    It is pointless to have a back and forth with some tool like Poof. OK once in awhile a condom breaks. this must result in a fraction of a percent of the number of unwanted pregnancies. Teaching safe sex would dramatically reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies. Trying to use abstinence teaching as your main method of stopping unwanted pregnancies is simply not working and hasn't ever worked. Remain stupid if you would like but get used to having unwanted pregnancies if you insist on teaching abstinence as your main method for stopping unwanted pregnancies.

  • February 13, 2008

    3:54 PM

    Poof writes:

    Changing your name does not make you any smarter. Safe sex has been taught for years in the public schools of most every urban area in our country and has failed miserably. You are an idiot to suggest that "accidents" during safe sex account for only a fraction of the unwanted pregnancies. Kids do not use birth control after being taught to do so. It only mollifies morons like yourself to believe so.

  • February 13, 2008

    5:28 PM

    Liberals are Stupid writes:

    Sheesh. Who DOESN'T know that teaching safe sex to teenagers does not end up preventing pregnancies? This liberal mantra ignores the facts and imperils our youth leading to abortion or parenthood, neither of which these children are prepared for.

  • February 13, 2008

    8:18 PM

    Angel writes:

    Though all can have your opinions, coming from a 17 year old, aka, me, I haven't seen many pregnant teens in my high school. only about 3 or 4 in my three years. And I wouldn't really call them 'sluts'. Sluts, in high school, is a person who has sex with more than one person. In high school, it doesn't matter whether they are being protected or not, but how many people one has slept with. If a girl is seen pregnant at school, everyone assumes she's with one man, unless her reputation tells otherwise, if her reputation in school is known that she's slept with a number of guys, then she is known as a slut, but if a pregnant teen does not have that kind of reputation then we all assume it was an acciedent, that something happen and it got carried away into having unprotected sex or maybe getting the small chance of pregnancy even with protected sex. Either way, sluts are people who have had sex with multiple partners and pregnant teens are not sluts, but mistaken for sluts because of their own stupidity of being carelessness with their sex lives. Each and every one of us know about the methods of birth control, the thing that matters is if the girl chooses the "better safe than sorry" route.

  • February 14, 2008

    6:26 PM

    Poof writes:

    Thanks Angel-j. You have confirmed for us that teaching safe sex to teenagers still results in unwanted pregnancies. Most responsible parents would also argue that ANY teenage pregnancy is an unwanted one, despite your parsing on the subject.

  • February 14, 2008

    7:03 PM

    jay writes:

    "You have confirmed for us that teaching safe sex to teenagers still results in unwanted pregnancies."

    yes...and not teaching it is even worse....what's your point?

    you want to reduce unwanted pregnancies? vote out the religious fundamentalists who are against realistic sex ed and access to contraception. period.

  • February 19, 2008

    1:20 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    Once again a tear-jerker real life testimonial from a blogger who just happens to be affected the the very topic of discussion (just a coincidence since most teenagers populate these blogs) --- followed predictably by the liar jay chiming in on the percieved wave of support he created for himself.

    So pathetic. He just can't help his sick self.

  • February 19, 2008

    6:00 PM

    Poof writes:

    Typical head in the sand response. "It's all a right wing conspiracy". Teaching safe sex has not decreased unwanted teenage pregnancies, nor has it significantly impacted the incidence of STD's.

    That spells f-a-i-l-u-r-e. Blame religion all you want. By virtue of your willful ignorance you doom our children to make these mistakes over and over again. But you won't be there to adopt the kids they bear, not will you be there to break the bad news that they have contracted a deadly disease.

    Typical moronic liberal.

  • February 27, 2008

    6:43 PM

    Angel writes:

    Dear no name person, I'm sorry if you feel offended by my remarks on this subject. I just thought all should know what's really going on in this age for us teenagers since you seem to have outgrown the age limit of teen years (like all will some day, it's a never ending cycle, everything changes) and end all you guys pointless arguements of how people judge teens who get pregnant. I'm just stating that pregnant teens had a choice and its their decision on what they want to do, not yours. So, blame the stupidity of their choices or their parents but not me, I'm just the voice of the age you're talking about, and since I have more experience in this time spam than you, I suggest you stop this argument while we're just beginning. And, let me guess what you're gonna say, "But what do I know? I'm just a teenager", right?

  • March 26, 2008

    11:09 AM

    Jamie Rosea writes:

    Well I just had to put my 2 cents in.. I am a 16 year old female.. and despite ALL the sterio types about us teenagers... I am proud to say I am PREGNANT. And although, yes I did drop out of High school... it has not hurt me. I have been on my own for more than a year and a half and I am considered emancipated.. I just recently got pregnant.. That makes me a SLUT???

    Well then, THIS SLUT thats writing this will graduate college in December.. baby or no baby, with a degree and certification.. this SLUT works hard and aquired her GED shortly after dropping out. This SLUT may be young, and may have mad a mistake or two, but thats because this SLUT as you call me is human. And just because you may be pregnant at a young age.. does NOT put you into a catagory. Everyones situation is different! As for me I consider my self to be a very mature young woman who is ready for this next challenge.

    Let me tell you something about me... I came threw Hell and High water just to get where I am.. I was emancipated when the foster parents I was living with.. actually my grandparents, tried to kill me for a life insurance policy. They were charged with attempted murder.

    Now then, when you catagorize everyone who is pregnant in the teenage years as a slut, that is a mistake. You try to say that we are dirty for having sex. BUT You do. You when you think you are all alone you are just as dirty as the rest of us and have been since you first discovered that THING between your legs! Maybe when you were 18 you lost your virginity but, my friend isnt that a teenage year? And what is the average age men start to masturbate at?? umm isnt it around... 13!!! So my friend sorry to burst your bubble but if we are sluts so are you.

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