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May 19, 2008 1:21 PM

Obama to Tennessee GOP: 'lay off my wife'

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Sen. Barack Obama has a message for those tough-guy Tennessee Republicans who picked a fight with Michelle Obama.

"These folks should lay off my wife," the leading Democratic contender told ABC's Good Morning America.

Obama, his party's presidential front-runner, and his wife, Michelle, were asked in an interview aired Monday on ABC's "Good Morning America" about an online video last week by the state's GOP taking her to task for a comment some considered unpatriotic.

"The GOP, should I be the nominee, can say whatever they want to say about me, my track record," Obama said. "If they think that they're going to try to make Michelle an issue in this campaign, they should be careful because that I find unacceptable, the notion that you start attacking my wife or my family."

He called the strategy "low class."

The video, posted on YouTube, centered on remarks Michelle Obama made while campaigning in Wisconsin last February, when she said: "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country."

The four-minute video replayed the remark six times, interspersing it with commentary by Tennesseans on why they are proud of America. In a news release that included a link to the video, Tennessee's GOP said "the Tennessee Republican Party has always been proud of America." It urged radio stations to play "patriotic music" during Michelle Obama's visit to Nashville last Thursday.

Michelle Obama later clarified the remark, saying she meant she was proud of how Americans were engaging in the political process and that she had always been proud of her country.

"Whoever is in charge of the Tennessee GOP needs to think long and hard about the kind of campaign they want to run, and I think that's true for everybody, Democrat or Republican," Obama said in the ABC interview, adding: "These folks should lay off my wife."

Are candidates' wives fair game?

Discussion

  • May 19, 2008

    1:58 PM

    Brian in Evans writes:

    In other news: As soon as Bill Clinton heard Obama's comments "lay off my wife" he held a press conference claiming he was not even ON his wife. That night.

  • May 19, 2008

    1:58 PM

    Republican Congregation writes:

    Whatever it takes to keep us from talking about our track record!

  • May 19, 2008

    1:59 PM

    Republican Congregation writes:

    Whatever it takes to keep us from talking about our track record!

  • May 19, 2008

    2:10 PM

    Shaggy aka Obamas typical bitter white person writes:

    Can't talk about how Liberal he is,
    Can't talk about his ears,
    Can't talk about how he looks like George the monkey,
    Can't talk about his middle name,
    Can't talk about his ties to terrorists,
    Can't talk about his racial spiritual adviser,
    Can't talk about his reluctance to wear a flag pin,
    Can't talk about his patriotism,
    Can't talk about him throwing Grandma under the bus,
    Can't talk about him appeasing terrorists,
    Can't talk about him being a mix breed,
    Can't talk about his Liberal voting record,
    Can't talk about his elitism,
    Can't talk about his lack of experience,
    Now we can't talk about his wife.

    Does this idiot even have a clue that he is running for President of the United States and we have an obligation to know everything possible about him and his wife?
    Does this idiot know what is going to happen when he actually becomes the Democratic nominee?
    Does he really think he is going to get asked sugar coated questions like the Liberal media done from the beginning and actually doing a disservice to the Democratic party because he is going to be the nominee and he is in no way the stronger candidate and is unelectable?

    This shady Obama character doesn't make many wise choices does he?
    Not only that he has a real hard time ridding himself from his racial and terrorist friends.
    The more he gets peeled the more he stinks.


  • May 19, 2008

    2:15 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    Its only okay to bash republicans, christians and their wives. You are a hate mongering, biggoted, racist, women hater if you do not agree

  • May 19, 2008

    2:18 PM

    samsmargolis writes:

    "These folks should lay off my wife." Or else what? You'll hire the fat skinhead from the Moveon.org commercials that run 10 times an hour to beat up the sponsors at recess? When Michelle Obama stops making campaign speeches and voluntarily putting herself in the public limelight with commentary and opinions that are clearly politically motivated, then Obama can get his panties all in a knot about use of her statements. Until that time she's fair game. I notice Wolf is only referring to the "wives" in the question - guess that means it's OK to pick on candidate's husbands; or, that Wolf doesn't consider Hillary to be a candidate anymore. Wolf, if Obama actually had a previous voting history or something worthwhile in his resume that warranted discussion, people probably wouldn't be making his wife an issue.

  • May 19, 2008

    2:21 PM

    samsmargolis writes:

    "These folks should lay off my wife." Or else what? You'll hire the fat skinhead from the Moveon.org commercials that run 10 times an hour to beat up the sponsors at recess? When Michelle Obama stops making campaign speeches and voluntarily putting herself in the public limelight with commentary and opinions that are clearly politically motivated, then Obama can get his panties all in a knot about use of her statements. Until that time she's fair game. I notice Wolf is only referring to the "wives" in the question - guess that means it's OK to pick on candidate's husbands; or, that Wolf doesn't consider Hillary to be a candidate anymore. Wolf, if Obama actually had a previous voting history or something worthwhile in his resume that warranted discussion, people probably wouldn't be making his wife an issue.

  • May 19, 2008

    2:23 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    Mrs. John Mccain. "I will never disclose my tax returns, Im not the canidate, my husband is."
    Nice hyprocrisy from the right as usual.

  • May 19, 2008

    2:31 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    Damn Shaggy, your posts just get more stupid everyday. At least you have the right wing talking points down, good boy, now roll over and lick bushs' balls, good boy.

  • May 19, 2008

    2:34 PM

    jay writes:

    "This shady Obama character doesn't make many wise choices does he?"

    that's a good question, shaggy. he seems to have made some pretty good life choices to have attained the position he has after such humble beginnings. he's made some wise decisions in congress including one not to vote for an unnecessary republican war.

    why do you think he hasn't made wise choices? anything at all policy related or more conspiracy theories about racism?

  • May 19, 2008

    2:34 PM

    Love & Darkness & my Sidearm writes:

    The GOP is in desperation mode - they HAVE to attack Obama's family, his associates, his middle name and his skin color.

    It's the ONLY hope they have, and besides, they are the party of hate and therefore enjoy engaging in such pathetic hateful tactics.

    It's what we've grown to expect from the GOP - the party of PROVEN failure.

  • May 19, 2008

    2:39 PM

    Love & Darkness & my Sidearm writes:

    The GOP is in desperation mode - they HAVE to attack Obama's family, his associates, his middle name and his skin color.

    It's the ONLY hope they have, and besides, they are the party of hate and therefore enjoy engaging in such pathetic hateful tactics.

    It's what we've grown to expect from the GOP - the party of PROVEN failure.

  • May 19, 2008

    2:41 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    2:23
    I don't see Mrs McCain making comments that puts doubt into millions of Americans about her patriotism.

    I have a feeling the Obamas have been given a free pass all their lives by using racism as the ticket.
    Both went to ivy league Schools that I bet gave them discounts because of the color of their skin.

    Michelle even had a 300,000 a year job at a hospital where she did absolutely nothing and Obama voted to give them a multi million dollar donation.
    These two are flakes and keep getting flakier the more and more they become exposed.

    Just wait until he debates foreign issues with John McCain, he will look like a deer in headlights just like he did when he was finally asked some tough questions...What a big eared dork that tries like hell to keep his real identity from being discovered.

  • May 19, 2008

    2:49 PM

    Shaggy aka Obamas typical bitter white person writes:

    jay,
    Obama has used his race and racial church to get his influence from. He has served on a board with a known and admitted terrorist. He has kept a racial Reverend for 20 years as his spiritual adviser for guidance and only recently separated himself from him because the racial Reverend called Obama a political liar.

    The Obamas are bitter people.
    Of course he votes against the War jay, he voted the most Liberal out of all the senators, even no to giving medical help to babies who survived a botched abortion.

    People are slowly finding out just how Liberal and whacked out this guy is and will not vote for putting a loon in the WH.

  • May 19, 2008

    3:08 PM

    gr8fuldude writes:

    Shaggy - I am not sure that I see completely how Obama's wife making a quote during an interview directly impacts what his policies will be. Could you elaborate a little on why/how you think this will influence his ability to govern?

    Also...some time ago, you got into it with am760 regarding leaving family members out of our discussions. Wouldn't you say that leaving family out of it also fits in the political arena? We are voting for the candidate after all, not their spouse, pastor, etc.

  • May 19, 2008

    3:15 PM

    Are liberals really this stupid writes:

    Stupid republicans, its only okay when liberals make fun of republican family members. Like Laura Bush, she is fair game, Michelle Obama is not fair game! Besides, everyone should be really scared of Obamas anger should he decide to flap those ears at you! The wind could send cars flying, roofs could collapse.

  • May 19, 2008

    3:18 PM

    Holier Than Thou writes:

    No, let them pick on Michelle Obama. It just shows how pathetic and desperate they are to avoid the issues, especially when it's something this lame and petty.

  • May 19, 2008

    3:22 PM

    nappyheadedho writes:

    Was Laura Bush drunk when she killed her "beau" in an auto accident? Why won't McCain's botox and stonefaced wife, show her income tax returns? Whyu isn't Neil Bush and McCain being prosecuted for bank robbing? Alito and GWB should also be in jail because they are UCMJ felons, AWOlees, deserters and guilty of illegal separation and discharge.

    What is the Obama's views on these issues, while Vick, Jones, Montgomery, Bonds, Snipes, Rev. Al Sharpton, and Denver's Rev. Acen Phillis sautee? Maybe the Tokyo Roses and IslamOphobes like Andrews, Caplis, Newman, Hannity, O'Riles (phone sex offender), LimPbaugh, Rosen, etc., will ask them. When pigs fly!

  • May 19, 2008

    3:29 PM

    Shaggy writes:

    Sure Dude,

    Obamas wife is part of the Obama team. She shares her husbands views and has stated so on many occasions. If she elects to make speeches and tell us that she is only recently proud and also attended the sermons of his racial adviser we have an obligation to ask her questions.

    If my wife started commenting on this blog she would be open game for all of you...right?

    This is the same thing Bill is doing to Hillary, he keeps making speeches and opening himself up as part of Hillary's campaign.

    If the spouses do not want to subject themselves to the media they should shut the hell up.

    btw, it isn't the attention they don't like, it is the negative attention they don't like, can't have it both ways.

    Minors and children should be kept out unless the Candidates themselves put them out in front of the media like the Clintons did with Chelsea.

    Obamas kids should be kept out obviously.

    AM760 attacked my daughter personally for going to a Christian college and his comment was removed just like his comment the other day was.
    My daughter was not showing up on this blog giving her personal opinions.
    760 has some anger problems he needs to deal with.
    If anyone listened to that radio station for a period of time would also have anger problems...it is a hate spewing radio.

  • May 19, 2008

    3:32 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    Obama is so white he now has the support of a former klansmen. Probably because all the klansmen were DEMOCRATS. You idiots dont even know the rich history of corruption racism and greed that is your party. What issues is you libtards want to discuss? All you do is slander, smear, accuse then say the republicans refuse to discuss the issues. You morons are in control of the house and senate and have done NOTHING. Morons.

  • May 19, 2008

    3:35 PM

    history buff writes:

    The Republicans seem to be desperate. Maybe close to demolition. Even Peggy Noonan, Ronald Reagan's speech writer, labeled them a pitiful bunch of losers in Friday's WSJ.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/declarations.html

  • May 19, 2008

    3:39 PM

    AM 760 (radio for retards) writes:

    I would just note that the last time Barack Obama insisted that his critics were misjudging a person because they jumped to conclusions based on "snippets," and Obama insisted that he knew that person better because of a long and close relationship... well, that individual managed to demonstrate that Obama's judgment was faulty before a national television audience relatively quickly.

    Just wait till the right gets their hands on Michelles college papers, there is already talk that she is more radical then Wright which is why she drags her husbands balls in her purse to that church

  • May 19, 2008

    4:06 PM

    jay writes:

    shaggy in no way did you mention "policy" in the response to the question about how mrs. obama's words have anything to do with his policy stances.

  • May 19, 2008

    4:20 PM

    Shaggy writes:

    I'm sorry jay, I am not sure if Michelle is also against giving medical attention to babies that survive botched abortions.

    Did you read the part where I stated Michelle herself has backed up Obamas policies?
    Do I think she will influence her personal polies on Obama?...YES...She already got him to vote for a multi-million dollar grant to the Hospital she goofed off at...errrrr....I mean was employed at.
    Noticed I didn't say work at.

    From what I gather from Michelle is that she sounds like a bitter black women and we need to find out if Barack Hussein Obama shares her views or vise versa.

  • May 19, 2008

    4:29 PM

    primafacie writes:

    No one stumping on behalf of a candidate is immune from defending their assertions. That's the game, folks, and Michelle Obama should have known that before she got in.

  • May 19, 2008

    4:44 PM

    jay writes:

    more conspiracy theories about "bitterness" and "racism", shag?

    how again does any of this manufactured political fluff change his policy stances?

  • May 19, 2008

    4:51 PM

    P_Denver writes:

    Yes, anyone who campaigns for a candidate is fair game. They are the focus of attention – good and bad. It comes with the territory.

    Assuming Mr. Obama gets his party's nomination, this is going to get worse, not better. If Mrs. Obama continues to be a surrogate in campaign speeches she will need to be able to take much more focused criticism than she is currently receiving.

    If Mrs. McCain steps forward on the campaign trail she, too, will be in for the same critique. As Mrs. Clinton has discovered: you don’t need to say terribly bright things to get elected, you simply need to avoid saying terribly stupid things.

  • May 19, 2008

    4:54 PM

    Hogar De Vuelta (العودة) Republican, because not everyone can be on welfare. writes:

    Anyone who makes comments on behalf of a candidate, in other words campaigns for that candidate is fair game, especially if all you are doing is playing there words and then contrasting it with the comments of those who actually love this country.

  • May 19, 2008

    5:08 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    WAAA WAAAA WAAAA WAAAAA!
    Lay off
    WAAA WAAA WAAAA WAAAAAA!

    - B. Obama

  • May 19, 2008

    5:13 PM

    Thin is in writes:

    Hogar-
    Eat your f&*ing words. "those who actually love this country". You eat spin like a kid with candy.

    Your trying to say she doesn't love this country. Because your so desperate, that's all you have. Your so weak, that's all you have.

    We see you post all the time " I hate big government" Guess friggin' what, we have big government right now so you must not love this country. Like I said, eat your words fat boy.

  • May 19, 2008

    5:53 PM

    Shaggy writes:

    760,
    Did they remove your comments?
    This is a yes or no question.
    It isn't a debatable question.

  • May 19, 2008

    6:04 PM

    Hogar De Vuelta (العودة) Republican, because not everyone can be on welfare. writes:

    Thin,

    Here a Michelle Obama's own words, "For the first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country, and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change."

    That is a radical statement from a radical person. I love my country without question, but that does not mean that I don't think it could be better. There is a large difference between supporting a change that you believe makes the country better, and a statement like Michelle made.

    What she should have said, is something like, "I have always loved my country, but I believe that Barack will help America become even greater than it is." The problem is that she spoke her heart, one that like Jeremiah Wright is filled with hate and racism.

  • May 19, 2008

    6:33 PM

    zivo24 writes:

    If spouses are fair game...bring it on.

    I liked Bill Clinton. Voted for him twice and would again if I could...but as far as spouses go...he humiliated his wife in front of the nation.

    John McCain was having an affair with Cindy while he was still married to his first wife, Carol.

    Cindy McCain was a prescription drug addict. She even resorted to stealing drugs from the philanthropic medical organization she created.

    When confronted by an executive of the charity about the drug theft, she later terminated him.
    He tipped of the DEA who investigated it and she submitted to an agreement that included financial restitution and enrollment in rehab program.

    She also played an active role as a bookkeeper in her husband's participation in the Keating Five savings and loan scandal for which he was admonished by the senate for "poor judgement".

    Now let's be fair..

    Bill Clinton did a lot of good things and despite his stupidity and arrogance over the whole Lewinsky scandal..he was a good president.

    Cindy McCain has made some mistakes in her life but she also created a charity that helt get emergency medical supplies and doctors to locations all over the world where humans were in crisis. She is also very active in numerous other charities.

    Michelle Obama is also a good person - a woman from a humble family who worked hard to graduate cum laude from Princeton University and a law degree from Harvard.

    She founded an organization in 1993, Public Allies Chicago, which provided young adults with leadership training for public service careers. As executive director, she headed up a non-profit named by President Bill Clinton as a model AmeriCorps program.

    Later, as an associate dean of student services at Univ. of Chicago she founded the school's first community service program.

    So, see...none are perfect..but for the most part they all have tried to be good people.

    Stop beating her up over something she off the top of her head and only said ONCE.

    Anyone who holds that comment against her...

    ...hasn't heard the full comment or considered it in the context of it coming from a black woman who experienced to a lesser degree the racism and discriminaton that her parents and grandparents lived with their entire lives...

    ...and they also have an agenda and are just looking for things to hold against her..just like some people did with Hillary back in 1992.


    She was also a


  • May 19, 2008

    6:56 PM

    zivo24 writes:

    It just never occurs to some people that Michelle Obama's experiences as a black woman in America might just be radically different than their own.

    Believe it or not, folks, the experience of being an American hasn't been exactly positive for millions of our fellow citizens.


    If you try being fair and consider her comment in the context of her experiences as a black woman in America who has experienced racism and discrimination in her own life...as well as growing up listening to the experiences her parents, grandparents and other famiy members had...you might understand where she is coming from.

    If Obama is elected, Michelle would be the first non-servile resident of the White House whose ancestors were slaves.

    When taken in that context - coming from a family with slaves in it's history to being the wife of a man who may become president..it makes me prouder of America than I have ever been.


  • May 19, 2008

    7:14 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    zivo, uh, michelle obama has led a life of priviledge.

  • May 19, 2008

    9:13 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    So McCain's wife is giving him a corporate jet to speed around on but she won't disclose her illegal deals and war profiteering, interesting. Hypocrisy is the GOP's strong suit. If you GOPers don't think she is with her husband for the highest profit YOU are the joke. She probably does not want to expose that she writes off her husband and the gigolos that fill his place.

  • May 19, 2008

    9:18 PM

    just sayin' writes:

    to answer the question, you're spouse is fair game only when your opponent does not want to run on his or her record or policies

  • May 19, 2008

    9:51 PM

    Rain Man writes:

    The GOPigs are going to play the race card into a big time backlash. Twenty years of one party rule has happened before.

  • May 20, 2008

    3:33 AM

    Mary writes:

    Holier Than Thou doesn't get it - spouses/children/siblings are only fair game when the GOP does it. Is he aware that during the 2000 run up to the nomination the Bush/Cheney/Rove machine brought up: McCain's sanity (after all, with 5 years as a POW, how sane could McCain be - NOT my opinion - theirs); allegations that McCain's ex cheated on him while he was a POW; allegations that McCain's adopted child is really his "love child" - AND McCain chose to defend NOBODY - not himself, his ex, nor his child. I may may not like Michelle's statement - despite it being taken out of context - but at least Obama had the guts to draw the line in the sand.

  • May 20, 2008

    7:55 AM

    SASQUATCH writes:

    It all depends. If the wives play politics, make political comments and step into the political arena, then of course they are in bounds. If they stay out of the political arena, say the obvious in support of their spouses, then they should be out of bounds.

    Michelle's overt anger with America is boderline--boderline wacky. And it tends to support why BO and family have been supporting members of a Nazi-hate-whitey, hate-America cult for 20 years, have a number of Marxists friends and terrorist associates. But she can recover from her own foot-n-mouth.

  • May 20, 2008

    8:01 AM

    SASQUATCH writes:

    I'M WILLING TO GIVE MICHELLE A PASS...she simply isn't used to being held to standards that are higher than what she is normally accustomed to--AFFIRMATIVE ACTION standards.

  • May 20, 2008

    8:03 AM

    tim0902 writes:

    Well Most liberals spewed all kinds of trash talk about the entire Bush family, from his father,brothers and even his daughtes!!!

  • May 20, 2008

    8:07 AM

    tim0902 writes:

    so many liberals spewed allkinds of trash talk about the entire Bush family. They cant make any oint on issues so came personal attacks on his family. from his father all the way to his daughters.

  • May 20, 2008

    8:12 AM

    Thin writes:

    Great post yesterday Zivo.
    I know where you are coming from Hogar.

  • May 20, 2008

    8:20 AM

    SASQUATCH writes:

    IF BO gets elected, then we are going to have to deal with him in a very special way--as our affirmative action, equal opportunity, diverse and society's victim president.

    And that means: No criticism, kid-gloves only, nothing but support, no challenges, always right-never wrong, encouragement only, applause only, loud bravo's, high-5s, respectful, deferential, deep-bows only, support only, form over content, punish success-reward failure, wild cheers-no boos, ass-kisses only....otherwise you will be labled a racist, bigot, homo-phobe, intollerant, hateful, redneck, Nazi.

    We are getting that race-based program right now and he (they?) hasn't even been elected yet!

  • May 20, 2008

    8:52 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    Sasquatch already thru in the towel. If you want to talk race, you've been playing on an uneven field of advantage for centuries and your scared more than pissed a black man is going to take office. Can dish it, can't take it. Cry mommy while u r at it.

  • May 20, 2008

    9:22 AM

    Mc Flip Flop writes:

    While the GOP has record deficit and the debacle in Iraq I expect they will focus on anything but the record. Even McCain is wimping out of his statements and trying to say that he is for ending Iraq now. He should have flip and flop following his campaign this year.

  • May 20, 2008

    9:23 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    Poor Obama, is he not proud of his Country now or is he just a typical bitter black/white man that wants tell us all what we can and cannot say.
    Didn't Hitler and Saddam have this same mentality?

  • May 20, 2008

    9:26 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    If it was perfectly acceptable to rake Hillary Clinto over the coals when Bill Clinton was president, and perfectly acceptable to rake Cindy McCain over the coals for having money, then it's perfectly acceptable to rake Michelle Obama over the coals for her anti-American statements and BOTH the Obama's racist associations with their hate-mongering friends, pastor Jeremiah Wright and Nation of Islam's Louis Farrakhan.

  • May 20, 2008

    9:39 AM

    DR writes:

    In a word, "Yes". It comes with the territory. Especially when they interject their views via the media - the floodgates are open.

  • May 20, 2008

    9:47 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    I'm a white and I'm not too proud of our country right now with our wars of aggression. Obama will be a nice change for our country. If you think he is a traitor for saying he will talk with Iran what is Bush? He holds hands with and has done nothing to the Saudis who were the terrorists that attacked us on 911. No conjecture or fabrication we were actually attacked by Saudis and Bush did NOTHING!!!

  • May 20, 2008

    9:50 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    "If they think that they're going to try to make Michelle an issue in this campaign, they should be careful because that I find unacceptable, the notion that you start attacking my wife or my family."----Obama


    What ya gonna do Obama...play the race some more?

    Then quit pimping her out dumb ass....anything she says in public is open season. Just like Bill is fair game...what a fricking baby..I can't believe this jerk is for real and so many loons have fallen into his BS...

  • May 20, 2008

    9:57 AM

    JW writes:

    "If you think he is a traitor for saying he will talk with Iran what is Bush? "

    Apparently a traitor. Both his Sec. of State and his Sec. Of Defense have advocated talking to Iran. In the case of the Sec. Of State (Rice), she actually has talked to Iran on several occasions.


    My favorite take on this issue was Bolton's on Hannity and Colmes. The idiot says Bush was just stating his policy again, the same policy he's always had. The Dems are totally wrong to say Bush was talking about them.

    Then two comments later he says "this is a case where Bush hit the nails on the head, and now the nails are complaining". IE: He bashed the Dems, and now they are complaining.

    Which is it jackass? Bush wasnt commenting on the Dems and so they are wrong to complain, or Bush WAS bashing the Dems and now they are complaining?

    It amazes me that people are stupid enough not to catch this kind of double talk.

  • May 20, 2008

    10:06 AM

    JMH writes:

    I think any family members that are part of the campaign should be subject to critism, but of course it should be something real...

    You see, what we have going on is a very desperate GOP attack machine that has nothing positive to run on, so as usual, they take the low road. They try to "label and demonize" their opponets to try and scare up their base. It's all they can do after the decade of failure the GOP has given us.

    To try and say that someone running for President hates his country or is married to someone who does, it goes to show you how shallow and ignorant you are.

    Now I understand alot of the NeoCons out there love this county like a 3 year old loves his mommy. It can do no wrong. But most of us are mature enough to see this country is not perfect and it rarely is. Those of us that really love this country will be honest enough to recognize when there is a problem and are willing to deal with it. That is patriotism, not waving a flag and being led along like some sheep.

    But you Republicans keep trying to take the low road (it's really all you got at this point) and keep throwing sh*t at the wall hoping something sticks. But really, it goes to show you how ignorant you are, because if you were paying attention to any of the 3 congressional elections we just had that handed all 3 seats to a Democrat (seats that were in very strong conservative districts no less), you would know that these tactics don't work anymore.

    America is fed up with the stupid nonsense that you guys want to make a big deal. The GOP tried these tactis in all races and lost the seat in all 3. I call that a backfire. America wants solutions and the GOP had it's chance. Now it is showing all of America it has nothig but name calling and fear to sell this country!

  • May 20, 2008

    10:06 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    Cindy McCain has made a fortune off of her husband and nobody touches her even though she provides a 26,000 dollar plus a flight plane for his private use. We know the “News” corporations are spinning Michelle Obama so they can divert attention from Cindy McCain. The reporters today are lazy, worthless, and couldn’t investigate any candidate without their corporation’s approval.

  • May 20, 2008

    10:09 AM

    Mike writes:

    Americans have heard over and over again the words of Barack, his wife and their close and trusted minister.

    We know racisma and hatred when we hear it. No amount of professional spin and counterclaims of racism will change that.

  • May 20, 2008

    10:10 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    McCain was guilty of working with Keating and he struck a deal to stay out of prison. He lacks character and has just become a smarter thief by hiding his money with his wife. Cindy McCain will never disclose her finances it would be the end of her husband.

  • May 20, 2008

    10:45 AM

    Tbone - because not everyone can be an idiot writes:

    Yea, we wouldn't want people to think he's.....elitist, with his 8 houses and everything.

  • May 20, 2008

    11:28 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    So McCain has a private jet from his wife? Now who is elitist?

  • May 20, 2008

    11:56 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    The cry baby liberals, cant stand that your man is gonna lose to a rich old geezer. Someone call the WHAMMMMMBULANCE

  • May 20, 2008

    12:54 PM

    Nick writes:

    If she doesn't want what she says or does to become a campaign issue, shut the hell up.

  • May 20, 2008

    12:55 PM

    history buff writes:

    You have to wonder when a politician's wife becomes super-rich while her husband has his nose stuck in the public trough. It could be that Mrs. McCain doesn't want to disclose how she is profiting from her husband's connections to government, just like Cheney and Company.

    If the public wants to let the war profiteers and other crooks steal from the American treasury, then McCain is their man, because he won't stand up to the crooks. But, I suppose war profiteering and other war crimes aren't unpatriotic. Heaven help us that the GOP donors can't get rich off the blood of American soldiers.

  • May 20, 2008

    12:58 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    It's amazing how far and how fast the GOP has fallen. They have nothing to offer except Ignorant Hate.

  • May 20, 2008

    1:00 PM

    Gtocha! writes:

    At least Cindy McCain provides transportation for her husband--no quota system there! Hypocrisy NOT.

  • May 20, 2008

    1:03 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    Ya gotta wonder what Cindy McCain is hiding from us.

    What kind of kickbacks, who she is in bed with.

    It's the latest example of probable GOP corruption and hypocrisy.

  • May 20, 2008

    1:05 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    Ya gotta wonder what Cindy McCain is hiding from us.

    What kind of kickbacks, who she is in bed with.

    It's the latest example of probable GOP corruption and hypocrisy.

  • May 20, 2008

    1:10 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    Ya gotta wonder what Bill Clinton is hiding from us.

    What kind of kickbacks, who he is in bed with.

    It's the latest example of probable Democrat corruption and hypocrisy.

  • May 20, 2008

    1:25 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    hey you geniuses bitching about Cindy McCain having money, she didn't get it from John ... she has a very large stake in a beer brewing company, and her point is that her finances are her own business, and not the publics .... John files his taxes based on his salary and investments, and has said his records will be open to the public at all times .... is this all you have on her? .... look, I don't think Michelle or Cindy ought to have to show highly personal records ... I mean, who cares?

  • May 20, 2008

    1:39 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    The femdems have to invent problems about other people, its the only way they can feel good about themselves with that rich history of corruption, greed, racism. Lets not forget the KKK was founded by Democratic leaders. It was a democratic president who ordered the national guard to not let the black kids through those school doors, it was a democratic attorney general who ordered Waco TX and killed hundreds. So see dems like war, they just hate wars against anyone except fellow citizens.

    Furthermore, Michelle is on record, so far you can only imagine Cindy being a corrupt women. Michelle is a radical black racist who probably thinks you libtards are just dumb honkeys who will vote for them. The only change coming is you libtards are gonna be picking a lot of cotton to appease her

  • May 20, 2008

    1:45 PM

    JW writes:

    "Ya gotta wonder what Bill Clinton is hiding from us.

    What kind of kickbacks, who he is in bed with.

    It's the latest example of probable Democrat corruption and hypocrisy."

    How do you people manage to be this stupid? Hillary and Bill released their tax returns. There was no "hiding" there.

    McSame and his wife filed seperately, and only released HIS taxes. There is some hiding there.

    Idiot.


    Anyone notice that McSame's campaign people are dropping like flies? Turns out they are all lobbyists. Cool lobbyists too. They lobby for respectable people like the government of Myanmar.

    Yea, hes a maverick going against special interests alright. Hes out their on the maverick fringe, taking more donations from oil and gas people than anyone else. Guess what his energy policy is? Well, you can look up what he SAYS it is on his website. But if you know where hes getting his money...his energy policy is going to be McSame as Bush.

    "It was a democratic president who ordered the national guard to not let the black kids through those school doors. "

    And it was Democrats who lost all those racist voters to...the Republican party.

  • May 20, 2008

    1:56 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    We don't need the racism and hatred that the Obama's and their closest trusted confidants spew. Anyone, ANYONE with connections to Farrakhan should not be the president of the united states.

    And that is just the tip of the berg....

  • May 20, 2008

    2:08 PM

    Truth is writes:

    Cindy McCain will never disclose her finances it would be the end of her husband.

  • May 20, 2008

    2:17 PM

    history buff writes:

    You said it 156, we only the real thing from the GOP, the racists who claim they aren't racists, the crooks who say they aren't crooks, the traitors who proclaim they are really patriots. With the GOP you get a dysfunction for every family.

  • May 20, 2008

    2:17 PM

    Truth is...A MORON writes:

    If you think her finances would be the end of the McCain you are drinking the same kool aid the obabma supporters are. The Obamas ties to racists and being black are gonna hurt them more then Cindys wealth you idiot

  • May 20, 2008

    2:26 PM

    history buff writes:

    Moron @ 217. LOL. I like a Republican who calls himself by his christened name.

    And I thought all Republicans were dysfunctional. I bet your household airs its racism on a daily basis.

  • May 20, 2008

    2:49 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    History Buff, you ignorant slutt. All you femdems say you support gays, when you libtards were free to vote without the rest of the femdems condeming, they all voted to suppress gay marriage. Just like now, its not republicans, its femdems who wil say they support obama then vote against him when the curtains are closed.

  • May 20, 2008

    2:53 PM

    "freedom isn't free" and neither is the presidency writes:

    You have to wonder when a politician's wife becomes quite rich like Michelle Obama, while her husband has his nose stuck in the public trough. It could be that Mrs. Obama doesn't want to disclose how she is profiting from her husband's connections to government, just like other politicos.

    If the public wants to let the war profiteers and other crooks steal from the American treasury, then Obama is their man, because he won't stand up to the crooks. Or, if/when he does, he'll do it in a way that gets the most vulnerable of them thrown under the bus. But, it seems war profiteering and other war crimes aren't unpatriotic. Heaven help us that Obama donors can't get rich off the blood of American soldiers. Or can they?

  • May 20, 2008

    3:03 PM

    jay writes:

    crazy cruton is officially off the meds again today

  • May 20, 2008

    3:52 PM

    Hey,Joe I heard you shot your old lady down writes:

    Michelle Obama is certainly fair game if she continues as she has for the past year attacking other politicians and getting out there and making her support for getting her husband elected political. She's the one spouting her mouth off and when someone uses her words that she spoke against her, Obama has a problem? Obama needs to tell her to shut up! Mc'Cain's wife supports him but doesn't go around shooting her mouth off. Obama's wife is a closet racist just like her husband. If she wants to get into the mud pit of politics with her mouth running all the time then she's going to get dirty. If Obama doesn't like it , he should tell her to shut up!

  • May 20, 2008

    3:54 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    Michelle Obama is certainly fair game if she continues as she has for the past year attacking other politicians and getting out there and making her support for getting her husband elected political. She's the one spouting her mouth off and when someone uses her words that she spoke against her, Obama has a problem? Obama needs to tell her to shut up! Mc'Cain's wife supports him but doesn't go around shooting her mouth off. Obama's wife is a closet racist just like her husband. If she wants to get into the mud pit of politics with her mouth running all the time then she's going to get dirty. If Obama doesn't like it , he should tell her to shut up!

  • May 20, 2008

    4:06 PM

    Tree writes:

    Screw their wives (pun). How about focus on the people propping up McCain, like Richard Black. You want this guy running our country?
    http://pol.moveon.org/charlieblack/video.html

  • May 20, 2008

    4:16 PM

    Shaggy writes:

    Tree, serious man....moveon.org?
    The biggest radical Liberal web site on the net!!!

  • May 20, 2008

    4:25 PM

    history buff writes:

    Tree, it doesn't matter if it is true. The source is a liberal website, therefore...

    After all, Einstein was a liberal and so was Sir Isaac Newton. I wouldn't believe in gravity or relativity. Hell, mathematics is a liberal conspiracy to disprove reactionary truths.

    Did you see where McCain criticized Obama for saying that Iran isn't as big a threat as the Soviet Union was after World War II? See what I mean about math.

  • May 20, 2008

    4:25 PM

    dan writes:

    ""zivo, uh, michelle obama has led a life of priviledge.""

    Yeah, like getting an education so that she can spell correctly.

  • May 20, 2008

    4:40 PM

    Tree writes:

    Shagbastard-
    Serious man, I'm hungry, get in my belly. I can't wait until a liberal black man takes office and takes away all your rights and then makes you enter the restaurant from the kitchen. Is that what Rush told you today?

  • May 20, 2008

    5:09 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    The GOP is just too wimpy to use the N-word that is in their minds. They have already started their assault on Hispanics and their true colors are showing through. If you don’t think so just look at the comments the right wingers present every time a Hispanic sir name is mentioned in an article.

  • May 20, 2008

    5:33 PM

    Liberal but not a radical nut writes:

    How do you know they are right wingers? There they are moderates and liberals sick of Mexicans and racial political correctness. Look at what is happening in the Democratic party now.

  • May 20, 2008

    5:55 PM

    just passin through writes:

    "After all, Einstein was a liberal and so was Sir Isaac Newton." Thanks for the chuckle. Attempting to compare Einstein and Newton to liberals in the present. Like comparing horse apples to real apples. If it wasn't for conservatives, Einstein never would have made it out of Germany in WWII.

  • May 20, 2008

    6:07 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    Einstein is just lucky he didn't run into Bush's granddad who was a Nazi.

  • May 20, 2008

    6:09 PM

    Tbone writes:

    You mean conservatives like FDR, just passin?

    You just punked yourself: complaining about other people comparing historical figures to the present, while doing it yourself!

    Well done!

  • May 20, 2008

    6:13 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    “Look at what is happening in the Democratic party now.” I am and they are on the verge of nominating a black presidential candidate! :) I’m proud of them!

  • May 20, 2008

    7:04 PM

    anonymous writes:

    6:13, So the only reason you are voting for him is his skin is black?

  • May 20, 2008

    10:26 PM

    Sheila writes:

    1. silly comment- It just never occurs to some people that Michelle Obama's experiences as a black woman in America might just be radically different than their own.


    2. One of the many things I have learned in my life is most people wan't to use double standards for their candidate or their people ect.

    3. You thinking is dillusinal your life is not different than anyone elses." you have been brainwashed to believe this" day in and day out explain how your life is different than any other race?

  • May 21, 2008

    7:34 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    T-bone , I would say FDR was pretty conservative. The man had tremendous presidential power and checks and balances was seemingly suspend under his presidency, so yes i would say a conservative like FDR.

  • May 21, 2008

    7:35 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    Obama, the second coming of Carter:

    Mideast: He views Iran's nuclear threat as "tiny." He'd meet with its leader, who is pledged to Israel's destruction. His adviser wants Israel to disarm. Clearly, Barack Obama is running for Jimmy Carter's second term.


    If we've been particularly hard on Sen. Obama in recent days, it's because he's a gift that keeps on giving. He consistently demonstrates his lack of qualifications to be commander in chief based on experience, worldview and judgment.

    His latest foray into dangerous naivete came while campaigning Sunday in Pendleton, Ore. He told the assembled multitude: "Iran? Cuba? Venezuela? -- these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us."

    He went on to defend his policy of "aggressive personal diplomacy" and called for "tough, disciplined and direct diplomacy. That's what Kennedy did. That'd what Reagan did."

    Well, not quite.

    Kennedy in his inaugural address pledged that "we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." That doesn't sound like Obama's policy on Iraq or anywhere else.

    Yes, Kennedy talked to Khrushchev. But the Soviet leader came away from that summit so unimpressed with the young and untested American president that the following year he put nuclear missiles in Cuba targeted on American cities. Kennedy was forced to blockade Cuba and risk nuclear war.

    We can't risk that with Iran. As John McCain points out, Iran, unlike the Soviet Union, is directly and daily involved in the killing of Americans through training of Iraqi insurgents and arming them with deadly improvised explosive devices. It is a state sponsor of terror that supports Hezbollah in its attempt to turn democratic Lebanon into an Islamofascist state.

    Obama said that Reagan's "direct negotiation" with Gorbachev "over time allowed the kind of opening that brought down the Berlin Wall." What brought down the Berlin Wall, and the Soviet Union, was Reagan's unrelenting resistance to and confrontation with the "evil empire" based on his strategy of "we win, they lose." That was how Reagan "negotiated" with Gorbachev.

    Yes, Reagan talked with Gorbachev. But he resisted the Soviet advance from Nicaragua to Grenada to Afghanistan. He put Pershing missiles in Europe. He launched the Strategic Defense Initiative and said "nyet" when Gorbachev wanted us to deal it away. When Reagan said, "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall," the end of the Cold War already was a fait accompli.

    Would Obama have done or said any of this?

    Obama wants to talk with Iran. But the question he refuses to answer is what he'd tell Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Obama dislikes being called an appeaser. But would he say to Iran: No deal unless you disown and disarm Hezbollah? We doubt it. More likely he'd sacrifice a country such as Lebanon to Tehran's ambitions in a modern-day Munich.

    In his book, "Bomb Scare: The History and Future of Nuclear Weapons," Obama adviser Joseph Cirincione, director of nuclear policy at the center for American Progress, says he favors Israel giving up its nuclear weapons to ensure Iran doesn't obtain nukes. That's called appeasement.

    Cirincione also was quoted in 2006 calling Israel's 1981 raid on Iraq's nuclear reactor a "failure." But the raid on Saddam Hussein's Osirak nuclear reactor was an unqualified success that kept the Iraqi dictator from having a nuclear weapon when he invaded Iran a decade later.

    McCain said that Obama's view of Iran as a "tiny" threat, a view not shared by the Israelis, "betrays the depth of Sen. Obama's inexperience and reckless judgment. These are very serious deficiencies for an American president to possess." Indeed they are.

    Obama responded during a campaign stop Monday in Billings, Mont.: "The Soviet Union had thousands of nuclear weapons, and Iran doesn't have one." And he'll probably believe that right up to the moment the phone rings at 3 a.m. and he hears: "Mr. President, Tel Aviv has been nuked."

  • May 21, 2008

    8:06 AM

    JW writes:

    " I would say FDR was pretty conservative. The man had tremendous presidential power and checks and balances was seemingly suspend under his presidency, so yes i would say a conservative like FDR."

    Good god. The level of ignorance you people exhibit is just mind blowing.

    WTF does the level of power someone has (based on political capital in this case) have to do with whether their political ideology is conservative or liberal?

    Answer; Not a damn thing.

  • May 21, 2008

    8:48 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    Obama currently has an 8-point lead over McBush, and that lead will only grow.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080521/pl_nm/usa_poll_politics_dc


    The Haters can soon call him another name: "Mister President".

  • May 21, 2008

    8:58 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    I know one thing- I hope the phone doesn't ring at 3 AM in the White House between now and January 20.

    Dubya has a long list of proven failures, we sure don't need any more.

  • May 21, 2008

    9:26 AM

    history buff writes:

    Tree

    I've been so rapt in the Obama / Clinton debacle, I haven't paid much attention to McCain. After referring to your post yesterday, I started reading all the McCain articles. Egad, his campaign is run by a pack of lawyer / lobbyists. McCain told them they have to give up lobbying for the duration of the campaign, but apparently he has assembled a flock of vultures intent on enriching themselves through government handouts, just luck Bush and his buddies.

    For the nut case who said FDR was a conservative, duh? FDR went beyond the progressives who passed legislation that made the economy more equitable to actually regulating the economy. But FDR was farsighted and saw WWII coming long before most Americans did. We were able to gear up for war rather quickly because the government had the apparatus to build a war machine.

    Bush tries to tap into the WWII American ethos, but he is so much hot air, as are his followers. Nazis are the big bad guys in movies, so he tries to make the middle east states the reincarnation of Hitler, but he is a failure because his vision is a fantasy. Iran is not Nazi Germany nor is it anywhere near the threat the Soviets were. The Soviets invaded Hungary and set up client states throughout Eastern Europe. They had a huge army, a nuclear arsenal and totalitarian government that makes Iran look like a liberal state in comparison. All these dunderheaded comparisons to the Nazis are the fantasies of the wacko right wing. What has happened to our country? We have replaced objective analysis with cartoon images produced by Fox News and the other deranged wishful thinkers.

    If the empty headed wackos are looking for a comparison to history, they should consider the Mexican War and the Tyler and James K. Polk administrations. Both wars are brought by a stronger nation against a weaker nation for dubious reasons. The Mexican War to expand slavery. The Iranian War to obtain oil. Except, we were able to whip the Mexicans, but we haven't been able to do that in Iran. And that is why George Bush probably is the worst President we have ever had.

  • May 21, 2008

    10:40 AM

    SASQUATCH writes:

    AMERICAN OBOMONATION...THE RULES ARE DIFFERENT FOR AN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PRESIDENCY.

    And we are finding out more about this pathetic OBOMONATION every day. By the time its all over, the only politically correct position remaining will be the size of BO's ears--the rest will be shoved out of bounds by OBOMOMANIACS for us rednick, racist homo-phobes.

  • May 21, 2008

    11:18 AM

    history buff writes:

    Gee, Hank. Why don't you just go ahead and call him a n_____ in capital letters and get it off your chest.

  • May 21, 2008

    11:48 AM

    SASQUATCH writes:

    Gee History Buff:

    I use dimwitted morons like you to project their own persona and attitudes onto others. Imbeciles like you always bite into such opportunities hook, line and sinker.

    You cheapened yourself...and presented no defense.

  • May 21, 2008

    11:53 AM

    jay writes:

    hank, what policy stances of obama's do you feel you can't talk about?

    which one's give you pause?

    which of bush's policy stances do you like enough to see them continued under mccain? why? what have they accomplished?

  • May 21, 2008

    12:39 PM

    history buff writes:

    Hank, you're right. I cheapened myself by giving you credit for having more class than what you deserve. I guess you are just another fictional personality in cyber space. Sorry, little buddy. I won't give you the benefit of the doubt again.

  • May 21, 2008

    12:48 PM

    history buff writes:

    BTW, I always thought Michael Jordan was the product of affirmative action and political correctness. :)

  • May 21, 2008

    12:57 PM

    SASQUATCH writes:

    BARAK OBAMA = JIMMIE CARTER II
    IF YOU LIKED CARTER, THEN YOU'LL LOVE OBAMA

    BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMA, May 2008: “We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times . . . and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK.”

    JAMES EARL CARTER, July 1979: “I ask Congress to give me authority for mandatory conservation and for standby gasoline rationing. . . . And I’m asking you for your good and for your Nation’s security to take no unnecessary trips, to use carpools or public transportation whenever you can, to park your car one extra day per week, to obey the speed limit, and to set your thermostats to save fuel. Every act of energy conservation like this is more than just common sense — I tell you it is an act of patriotism.”
    ------
    BO represent Carter II, a Carter redux and a rerun to "America has already seen its best days and we need to reduce our expectations." And BO's aggressive planned tax-hiking policies, his anti-business pro-socialist policies and BO's willingness to appease terrorists are cut right out of the Carter playbook.

    Bottom line: BO is nothing but a recycled Carter--a Carter II--without the hate-whitey cult. Carter targeted Jews. This unqualified empty suit and affirmative action candidate will leave his mark on history nearly identical to the one left by the peanut plantation operator from Plains.

  • May 21, 2008

    12:58 PM

    Observer writes:

    Jdumbya -
    Congrats on the engagement. I give you both about three months before she either leaves, or has you arrested for domestic violence. Here's a scenario for planning the wedding:

    Fiancee: JW, I'd really like to carry gerbera dasies in my bouquet.

    JW: Gerbera dasies?! For %^$#'s sake, don't you know gerbera dasies are a ^%$# strawman fallacy?! WTF is wrong with you?! For %^$#'s sake, you are stupid!

    Fiancee: But I just want it to be a nice day honey!

    JW: I am saving to buy an MBA! I know it all! I will tell you what a nice day is!

    For your finacee, the phone number for the Colorado Coalition against Domestic Violence is 303-962-0930. Please tell her to keep it in her purse.

  • May 21, 2008

    1:11 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    Sasquatch, your post is a brilliant exampl,e of Righty Ignorance.

    If we'd listened to Carter in '79, we'd not be at the mercy of OPEC like we are now.

    Short-sighted GOP policies have gotten us where we are.

  • May 21, 2008

    1:18 PM

    Tbone writes:

    No doubt. Not to mention, if detroit wouldnt' have been dragging its feet over improvements in efficiency, they probably wouldnt be in the pickle they are in right now.

  • May 21, 2008

    1:36 PM

    JW writes:

    Observer,

    Hehe, that was pretty funny man.

    Kind of disturbing that you know the domestic violence number by heart though. Tell your sister I said to stop kicking your ass, and beating your kids. No, the fact that they are her kids too doesnt make it right.

  • May 21, 2008

    2:17 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    look 1:11 .... I hear ya, but this isn't a 'righty' or 'lefty' issue ... there were dems-aplenty in Congress all through Carters time ... fact is, his biggest accomplishment was giving control of the canal away ... aside from that it was four wasted freaking years.... he and the monkey king (love that name) will be immortalized as the biggest wastes of time in the white house ever from their parties .... but as a population of Americans, for shits sake we have to STOP this finger-pointing crap on one party or the other, one race or the other, one gender or the other .... all we do is waste time and divert attention from the real issues which include how we make our governmental representatives do their job according to the will of the people...... each one of us is either part of the problem, or part of the solution ....

  • May 21, 2008

    3:04 PM

    jay writes:

    hank you know that barack has never said that he wants to regulate how much americans can drive, etc.

    you do know that right?

    did rush not make that clear enough...or at all?

    so far i haven't seen you give any support whatsoever for your conspiracy theory that barack is another carter.

  • May 21, 2008

    3:32 PM

    history buff writes:

    Carter had problems as a President, but the America's response to the Arab oil embargo was not only one of Carter's accomplishments, it is evidence of what the American public can do when it takes action as a united nation.

    The Bush years suck so bad, it is no wonder that we face declining prestige in the world. The most severe criticisms should be addressed to the Bushista's doctrine that the public should not be bothered with national problems. For the first time in American history we had tax reductions during a time of war. Americans weren't called on to fight an enemy. They were told to keep on shopping.

    Abraham Lincoln said that a house divided will fall. Too bad the Republicans don't listen to the founding voice of their party. Their political mantra is "me, me, me!" Actually, it is more like, ME ME ME!!!

    Hopefully, the American people will unite, will conserve, will develop alternative fuels and stop the flow of money to terrorist sponsoring nations.

  • May 21, 2008

    4:36 PM

    M.T. writes:

    The Obama's are a Trojan Horse. People rightly do not trust them after they tipped their hands on so many occasions.

    If Hillary is not the nominee, I am voting for McCain. And so are MANY democrats that I know of. Those polls are absolutely accurate.

    Sorry jay.

  • May 21, 2008

    4:50 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    M.T. your not a democrat!

  • May 21, 2008

    4:52 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    M.T. your not a democrat don't pretend to be one. No dem in there right mind would vote for any repub at this point

  • May 21, 2008

    4:52 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    M.T. your not a democrat don't pretend to be one. No dem in there right mind would vote for any repub at this point

  • May 21, 2008

    5:07 PM

    jay writes:

    MT, remember, we can smell bs in here like a fart in a car.

    "I am voting for McCain"

    why? what bush accomplishments warrant a continuation of his policies under mccain?

  • May 21, 2008

    5:17 PM

    SkiBum writes:

    Buff, I know many wealthy liberals, and many work-a-day lower to middle income conservatives. We simply must stop stereo-typing. The REAL problem is that the man in the White House has hijacked the Republican party, and whether everyone here wants to admit it or not, it is logical that only another Republican will right the ship and put the party back on course for fiscal responsibility, smaller government, etc. The last almost eight years have been a travesty, and we've all been witness to what can happen when any one of the three pieces gets out of control. But where in all this has been the other two parts in the checks-and-balances to stop him? What we are seeing friend, is collaboration that is covert, nearly complete, and seemingly unstoppable with the people in office that are there.

  • May 21, 2008

    9:40 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    'it is logical that only another Republican will right the ship and put the party back on course for fiscal responsibility, smaller government, etc


    and that person is John McCain
    (Bush part 3)

    lolol

  • May 21, 2008

    9:55 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    Three is a trend

    http: //www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90435304

    2008

    Dennis Hastert (R-IL) resigned. Special election winner: Bill Foster (D).
    Richard Baker (R-LA) resigned. Special election winner: Don Cazayoux (D).
    Roger Wicker (R-MS) appointed to Senate. Special election winner: Travis Childers (D).

    "Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD), chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, called the result "yet another rejection of the House Republican agenda, the Bush administration's misguided policies and John McCain's campaign for a third Bush term." Rep. Tom Cole (R-OK), Van Hollen's Republican counterpart, acknowledged that the "political environment is such that voters remain pessimistic about the direction of the country and the Republican Party in general. Therefore, Republicans must undertake bold efforts to define a forward-looking agenda that offers the kind of positive change voters are looking for." But Cole conceded that "time is short."

    Spin all you want.
    Gop is headed no where

  • May 21, 2008

    10:42 PM

    iMac Attack writes:

    How about no attack ads period. How about no ads period. Wouldn't it be nice not to have all of that negativity? Instead, we could just have the debates and town hall meetings. They could be paid by sponsors having regular commercials like we do for the super bowl. Then the money that the parties would save, could be used for things like GI scholarships or another stimulus package. Just a thought.

  • May 21, 2008

    10:53 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    'and that person is John McCain' -pinhead

    okay, so you missed the point he tried to make .... so I'll help you out .... SOME Republican, AT SOME point in time, WILL BE the person to right the ship, BUT NOT necessarily McCain in this election, or maybe not even whoever in the next couple elections.... but it really won't matter because the whole thing is a cycle, and eventually the people will become weary of being over-taxed as always happens when Democrats are in control for very long, and they'll try the alternative dope to try and get the better high ... and yeah, you're right ... IT SUCKS ... because it's so true ... so enjoy your time in the sun because in a few years, it will again be the Dems in disarray, and the pinheads from the other party will be shoving it in your face .... and we STILL won't have any fixes for the problems because we're SO BUSY being self-righteous about our party being the one that looks better at the time ....... totally freaking sweet .... now, go to bed before you hurt yourself ... and stop playing with that or you'll go blind

  • May 22, 2008

    3:43 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    " and we STILL won't have any fixes for the problems because we're SO BUSY being self-righteous about our party being the one that looks better at the time ...."

    This person sounds like a bitter person
    and a republican who is still being self righteous about his/her party. Sounds suicidal to me

  • May 22, 2008

    9:28 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    nope .... just a realist who can see how things work ... you, on the other hand, seem to be in denial about government ... those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it .... the two party system is a farce .... one wins and little changes, and the people become disgruntled so the other one wins and little changes, and round and round it goes .... nice of you to blindly make a stab at identifying my 'party', but I don't have one ... I've voted Dem, Rep, Lib, and Uni in the past based on qualifications and stated views ... but your attempt to ID my affiliation tends to support the position that until the finger pointing stops, nothing productive will be accomplished ... good job

  • May 22, 2008

    11:16 AM

    BJ Goral writes:

    I am amazed that you would even ask such a question after all of the attack ads the press has made on the Clinton's for the past 16 years. The only reason W's wife hasn't been attacked by you guys is that she stays hidden from the press. If Michelle wants to be part of his campaign she had better learn to weave and duck, cause she gonna get slammed by the press.

  • May 22, 2008

    12:26 PM

    Liberals are idiots writes:

    Over the past 8 years, ever gaffe president bush has made has been used against him by the FemDems. They say that means he shouldn't be president. Barrack dumbass Obama is a gaffe machine and it gets a free pass:

    — Last May, he claimed that tornadoes in Kansas killed a whopping 10,000 people: "In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed." The actual death toll: 12.

    — Earlier this month in Oregon, he redrew the map of the United States: "Over the last 15 months, we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in 57 states? I think one left to go."

    — Last week, in front of a roaring Sioux Falls, S.D., audience, Obama exulted: "Thank you, Sioux City. ... I said it wrong. I've been in Iowa for too long. I'm sorry."

    — Explaining last week why he was trailing Hillary Clinton in Kentucky, Obama again botched basic geography: "Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it's not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle." On what map is Arkansas closer to Kentucky than Illinois?

    — Obama has as much trouble with numbers as he has with maps. Last March, on the anniversary of the Bloody Sunday march in Selma, Ala., he claimed his parents united as a direct result of the civil rights movement:

    "There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Ala., because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born."

    Obama was born in 1961. The Selma march took place in 1965. His spokesman, Bill Burton, later explained that Obama was "speaking metaphorically about the civil rights movement as a whole."

    — Earlier this month in Cape Girardeau, Mo., Obama showed off his knowledge of the war in Afghanistan by homing in on a lack of translators: "We only have a certain number of them, and if they are all in Iraq, then it's harder for us to use them in Afghanistan." The real reason it's "harder for us to use them" in Afghanistan: Iraqis speak Arabic or Kurdish.
    The Afghanis speak Pashto, Farsi or other non-Arabic languages.

    — Over the weekend in Oregon, Obama pleaded ignorance of the decades-old, multi-billion-dollar massive Hanford nuclear waste cleanup:

    "Here's something that you will rarely hear from a politician, and that is that I'm not familiar with the Hanford, uuuuhh, site, so I don't know exactly what's going on there. (Applause.) Now, having said that, I promise you I'll learn about it by the time I leave here on the ride back to the airport."

    I assume on that ride, a staffer reminded him that he's voted on at least one defense authorization bill that addressed the "costs, schedules, and technical issues" dealing with the nation's most contaminated nuclear waste site.

    — Last March, the Chicago Tribune reported this little-noticed nugget about a fake autobiographical detail in Obama's "Dreams from My Father":

    "Then, there's the copy of Life magazine that Obama presents as his racial awakening at age 9. In it, he wrote, was an article and two accompanying photographs of an African-American man physically and mentally scarred by his efforts to lighten his skin. In fact, the Life article and the photographs don't exist, say the magazine's own historians."

    — And in perhaps the most seriously troubling set of gaffes of them all, Obama told a Portland crowd over the weekend that Iran doesn't "pose a serious threat to us" — cluelessly arguing that "tiny countries" with small defense budgets can't do us harm — and then promptly flip-flopped the next day, claiming, "I've made it clear for years that the threat from Iran is grave."

    Barack Obama — promoted by the Left and the media as an all-knowing, articulate, transcendent Messiah — is a walking, talking gaffe machine. How many more passes does he get? How many more can we afford?

  • May 22, 2008

    12:41 PM

    KW writes:

    Just so I have this straight... According to Obama:

    If a huge superpower like the USSR lobbed a nuke at us it would be a big deal. Not because of the damage it would inflict on us, but because the USSR was a superpower.

    But if Iran lobbed a nuke at us, it's no big deal because tiny countries have small defense budgets that pale in comparison to ours.

    Even though the same amount of damage would occur regardless who lobbed the nuke.

    And you want this guy to be the commander in chief???

  • May 22, 2008

    12:46 PM

    history buff writes:

    Egad, another sniffling little whiner who uses sixth grade type insults copies and pastes the latest reactionary talking points. Why don't you consider the real problems instead talking like a teen aged girl jealous because another girl wears nicer clothes.

    Why don't you think about why we can't win a war against a ragged bunch of third world towel heads? Why is the person who actually is responsible for the attacks against our country still at large? Who cares about your adolescent frailties. Why don't you think about why we are still dependent on oil from countries that support terrorism, and what are we going to do as supply no longer meets demand? Why don't you came back when you grow up?

    KW, you sound like the script from Saturday Night Live. What if Sparticus had a Piper Cub? I hope you don't expect our fighting forces to defend your fantasies.

  • May 22, 2008

    1:01 PM

    jay writes:

    No kw, you don't have it "straight"...that's another strawman argument.

  • May 22, 2008

    1:28 PM

    History Buff, the liberal stooge moron writes:

    History buff, what a bafoon. You openly call arabs towel heads but anyone that says anything about your jungle fever with Obama wants to call him a nigger. What an idiot you femdems are. I for one am glad your own party doesnt take any of you morons seriously

  • May 22, 2008

    1:43 PM

    KW writes:

    Well then jay, lets reexamine the actual text of Obama's statement. Maybe you can translate for us what he really meant when Obama said...

    "Strong countries and strong Presidents talk to their adversaries. That's what Kennedy did with Khrushchev. That's what Reagan did with Gorbachev. That's what Nixon did with Mao. I mean think about it. Iran, Cuba, Venezuela – these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us.

    And yet we were willing to talk to the Soviet Union at the time when they were saying we're going to wipe you off the planet. And ultimately that direct engagement led to a series of measures that helped prevent nuclear war, and over time allowed the kind of opening that brought down the Berlin Wall. Now, that has to be the kind of approach that we take...

    You know, Iran they spend one-one hundredth of what we spend on the military. If Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn't stand a chance. And we should use that position of strength that we have to be bold enough to go ahead and listen. That doesn't mean we agree with them on everything. We might not compromise on any issues, but at least, we should find out other areas of potential common interest, and we can reduce some of the tensions that has caused us so many problems around the world."

    You can give us your spin jay, but geographic "size" of a country doesn't determine the amount of damage that country can afflict... especially if they become nuclear.

    And to say the Soviet Union posed a greater threat... I certainly don't remember the Soviets' EVER crashing planes into buildings and killing 3000 people. But... as I'm sure you'll post here shortly... Obama meant something completely different than what his actual words said.

    And BTW - Does Obama think the Soviets' were terrorists? He for some reason keeps comparing them to terrorists. Is this just another gaffe?

  • May 22, 2008

    1:50 PM

    history buff writes:

    Who is this weirdo flaming me and using my name? I replied to your posts on another thread. What the hell. What kind of cheap shot coward are you?

    Is towel head a racist term? If it is, please explain it. It looks like you are the racist. Your post uses blatantly racist language. You can't expect me to respond rationally to someone who appears to be suffering from deep psychological dissonance. No matter what I say, it will offend one side of your personality.

    As I explained in response to your hysteria, I used towel head to describe the enemy. You want to use racial terms to describe an American citizen running for President. You are deeply disturbed, little buddy.

  • May 22, 2008

    2:05 PM

    Shaggy writes:

    Yep KW, You got that right.
    They are all just tiny Countries and tiny Countries can't fight bigger Countries.

    Someone needs to tell him that Iran is about three times larger than Germany.

    I swear this guy must have bought his Law degree because anytime he talks with out a written script in front of him he sounds like a stupid loon trying to talk.

  • May 22, 2008

    2:10 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    KW, you forgot to mention that Khrushchev came away so unimpressed with kennedy he fealt emboldened to put Nukes in Cuba. Reagans meeting with Gorbachev was to tell him we are not going to pull our missles out of europe, not appeasement and bowing to others like the leftists twats want. The only thing that brought the Berlin wall was us out spending them, not Reagan talking to the russians. Obabam again demonstrates he is not ready to be commander in chief and why the dumbass apapathetic young like him so much, they, like the liberals that hang here, dont know a damn thing about those moments in time

  • May 22, 2008

    2:13 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    "Is towel head a racist term?"

    Actually I think it would be because it pertains to a certain group of people.
    However I prefer diaper head or sand fleas myself.

  • May 22, 2008

    2:15 PM

    JW writes:

    " I certainly don't remember the Soviets' EVER crashing planes into buildings and killing 3000 people."

    Funny, I dont remeber the Iranians doing this either. I do remember them giving us aid when we went into Afghanistan looking for the people who did though.

    Another funny thing, I do remeber plenty of SAUDIS flying those planes. Why is it you wingnuts never talk about bombing THEM?

  • May 22, 2008

    2:30 PM

    Shaggy writes:

    2:10 PM,
    Good post.
    Hell I would say most of the people supporting Obama don't know a damn thing abput him either other than he has a nice smile, he's black, he is(falsely)claiming change and he can read a speech that someones writes for him.
    Thats it, they have no idea what a Liberal is and the way they think.
    Thank goodness that is starting to seep out of Obama the more he keeps getting peeled.
    If I were him I would want to protect my racial Reverend and unhappy wife too...Oops for got about him protecting his terrorist friends.

  • May 22, 2008

    2:55 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    The Obamas make Malcom X look like Wayne Brady. I got big money that says when the nomination is settled, audio of him or her calling white people honkeys and crackers will surface. Michelles college work on why she hates white people will surface and the libtards will only wish they would have ran someone for their ability and not their skin color.

  • May 22, 2008

    3:24 PM

    jay writes:

    "If a huge superpower like the USSR lobbed a nuke at us it would be a big deal. Not because of the damage it would inflict on us, but because the USSR was a superpower.

    But if Iran lobbed a nuke at us, it's no big deal because tiny countries have small defense budgets that pale in comparison to ours.

    Even though the same amount of damage would occur regardless who lobbed the nuke."

    no need for me to "spin", kw.

    you just paste the particular statement where obama said he believes those statements to be true.

  • May 22, 2008

    3:30 PM

    history buff writes:

    "The only thing that brought the Berlin wall was us out spending them, not Reagan talking to the russians."

    Actually, blue jeans and rock and roll probably did more to weaken the Kremlin than threats from the west.

  • May 22, 2008

    4:01 PM

    KW writes:

    Already posted Obama's exact words at 1:43pm jay. You must have missed that part.

    JW - With Saudi (OPEC) refusing to increase production and siding with Hugo (OPEC) on keeping low production levels in order to achieve higher prices... I'm almost in favor of sending a few bombs their way. Or at least giving them the idea we might.

    Probably would screw up the oil fields a might bit though. Still, it could be entertaining to see the looks on their faces!

  • May 22, 2008

    8:29 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    Oboy thats that mean we get to invade Venezuela?
    or Saudi Arabia?

    Sounds like a great idea

    John McWar

  • May 22, 2008

    9:41 PM

    Larry Mohan writes:

    Count me in as another Hillary supporter who will vote for John MCCain if Obama gets to be the nominee in August. Unlike my hyperpartisan far left brothers and sisters, I am not one of the sheeple. I can smell a rat and Barack is not right for America - too liberal and too nebulous on the issues. I am not swayed by his rock star effect on voters driven by emotion and not rational thought.

  • May 22, 2008

    9:48 PM

    jay writes:

    " I can smell a rat and Barack is not right for America - too liberal and too nebulous on the issues."

    bullshit.

    you're a republican. you were never a hillary supporter. you wouldn't vote for john if you were because hillary's and obama's platforms are nearly identical...as opposed to the third bush term mccain represents.

  • May 23, 2008

    5:57 PM

    Larry Mohan writes:

    Screw you whoever you are you dipstick. You are a far left partisan who cannot think for himself, or you would not discount out of hand a moderate Republican vs. a very left liberal Democrat and the merits of which of these two would be best for all of America - even the brainless aholes like yourself.

    Your display of venomous emotion makes my point.

  • May 23, 2008

    6:32 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    OK. Larry, meet Jayhole.
    Larry is new here and does not realize that asswipe is just doing his usual hypocritical thing about polls and demonstrated truths, albeit inconvenient to his ingrained looney left ideology. Moronic jay just can't accept those same scientific polls he used to love to quote and post links to, but this particular set of data unnerves him to no end.

    LOL.

  • May 24, 2008

    7:59 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    that's right Larry, meet Jay .... he's been better of late, but sometimes he gets into his 'opinion bully' mode, like in the post below, where he essentially says to believe the way he does or it's all bullshit ... he's a died-in-the-wool liberal and I doubt he's ever voted otherwise, which is fine I suppose, if perhaps very narrow-minded .... but you have to remember that you can't argue with a tree and Jay is very planted in what he believes

  • May 24, 2008

    7:28 PM

    Leslie writes:

    Jay is one of several examples of complete idiots that trumpet their superior abilities on many political topics who subsequently fold up like lawn chairs when their strawman arguments fall apart. They can never admit they are wrong - a sure sign of a hypocrite.

  • May 24, 2008

    7:28 PM

    Leslie writes:

    Jay is one of several examples of complete idiots that trumpet their superior abilities on many political topics who subsequently fold up like lawn chairs when their strawman arguments fall apart. They can never admit they are wrong - a sure sign of a hypocrite.

  • May 25, 2008

    9:53 AM

    Chris writes:

    Good post Leslie. I have found it comical how the same tired old posters who constantly accuse others of resorting to emotional automated ideology are the worst examples themselves. Theirs are one-sided, constricted lockstep regurgitated snippets from far left sources such as MediaMatters, DailyKos, Huffington, and
    MoveOn. I can just about predict their posts before they type them. This is why I try to contribute to strings where these idiots tend not to reside. Have a great holiday everyone.