July 21, 2008 8:30 AM
Dobson showing a little love for McCain?
James Dobson is flip-flopping on John McCain.
The leader of Focus on the Family famously proclaimed he couldn't vote for McCain because the presumptive Republican nominee was insufficiently conservative on such issues as embryonic stem-cell research and a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage.
That was then. Now Dobson says he is reconsidering McCain's candidacy and praises his anti-abortion record and support for smaller government.
"I never thought I would hear myself saying this," Dobson said in a radio broadcast to air Monday. "... While I am not endorsing Senator John McCain, the possibility is there that I might."Dobson and other evangelical leaders unimpressed by McCain increasingly are taking a lesser-of-two-evils approach to the 2008 race. Dobson and his guest, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary president Albert Mohler, spend most of the pretaped Focus on the Family radio program criticizing Democratic candidate Barack Obama, getting to McCain at the very end.
In an advance copy provided to The Associated Press, Dobson said that while neither candidate is consistent with his views, McCain's positions are closer by a wide margin.
"There's nothing dishonorable in a person rethinking his or her positions, especially in a constantly changing political context," Dobson said in a statement to the AP. "Barack Obama contradicts and threatens everything I believe about the institution of the family and what is best for the nation. His radical positions on life, marriage and national security force me to reevaluate the candidacy of our only other choice, John McCain."
Not exactly a ringing endorsement of the GOP standard-bearer, but Dobson and other religious-right leaders may wind up giving gritted-teeth endorsements of McCain. Question is: Does anybody care? Does Dobson still carry some weight among voters? Would he influence your vote?
July 21, 2008
9:01 AM
Ben- Former Democrat writes:
To be realistic Dr. Dobson would have hold his nose and endorse Juan McAmnesty. Look at the alternative.
July 21, 2008
9:52 AM
JMH writes:
Who cares what this wacko thinks? He voted for G. W. Bush TWICE and got his "sheep" to do so as well. I think he has helped do enough damage to America at this point. I just have to laugh when someone who actually voted for Bush twice has the audacity to think he has any credibilty left about what is best for this country.
Why isn't his "tax-exempt status" revoked? He uses his church for political purposes constantly. This man is one of the heads of the "American Taliban" and he needs to have his tax exempt status revoked if he is going to use his church to push his political opinions!
July 21, 2008
10:04 AM
Seperation of Church and State please! writes:
LOL! As if Dobson's LAST choice for president was something special.
Ummm... Dr. Dobson, I don't thhink GOD is speaking through you. If he is, GOD hates America based on the results from the last pony you had in the race. Dobsn is nothing more than another "Neo-Con" attack dog that wants to keep the "faith based" money rolling in!
July 21, 2008
10:10 AM
Seperation of Church and State please! writes:
LOL! As if Dobson's LAST choice for president was something special.
Ummm... Dr. Dobson, I don't think GOD is speaking through you. If he is, GOD hates America based on the results from the last pony you had in the race. Dobson is nothing more than another "Neo-Con" attack dog that wants to keep the "faith based" money rolling in for himself!
July 21, 2008
10:19 AM
Kevin J Jones writes:
"Why isn't his "tax-exempt status" revoked? He uses his church for political purposes constantly. "
Er, Dobson doesn't run a church, he runs Focus on the Family.
Too bad Dobson is limping back onto the special GOP reservation for social conservatives. I would have preferred to see more independence from him and similar leaders. The GOP will continue to take social conservative concerns for granted, and thus continue to throw only a few bones their way.
Conservative Democrats have an opportunity at this nadir of the GOP, if they can find more support from their party leadership.
July 21, 2008
11:31 AM
Hogar De Vuelta (العودة) Time to start the American Party writes:
I would love to see a political party that represents Americans from 30% on either side of the middle. Cut off extremists from both sides of the spectrum. The choice would be America vs. Globalists, because the extremes are both globalists, but with totally different agendas.
July 21, 2008
12:10 PM
JMH writes:
I agree with you on that comment Hogar... It does seem that the extremists on both sides tend to drive the discussions in America today. It's why we are so divided.
Just look at the way primaries are set up today in regards to the 2 party system. The hard-core memebers of each party seem to pick the canidates and then that is why we are always picking the "lesser of two evils".
This elelction cycle does seem a bit differenet tho. I think both canidates are really more centrists than either side would like to admit, because both canidates had to pander to the more extreme elements to thier respective parties to just get out of their primaries. I mean just look at the past primaries, in the GOP all the canidates were tripping over each other to claim the title of "true conservative" and in the Dem primaries we were basically looking at whomever was the furthest away from the Bush administration in every way.
We are now seeing Obama move more towards the center - talking "faith based" stuff, saying he would still pull out of Iraq, but conditions on the ground could change his mind on how quick, etc...
...but it seems McCain isn't doing this. While he was originally a centrist who usually upset the right wing of the GOP, he has steadally moved closer to the radical policies of the Bush administration. But he isn't moving back to the center again now that the primaries are over. He supported stem-cell research. But now he has distanced himself from that. Same thing on his stance towrds people like Dobson. He used to distance himself from radicals like Dobson & such, calling them "agents of intolerance" at one point (and I think he was right), but now he is still cozying up to them. Why?
I guess that is my biggest problem with McCain. Back in 2000, he was a true centrist and he was railroaded by the GOP establishment because of it. I was going to vote for him over Gore had he got the nomination, but he didn't (and I could see the disater a Bush administration would be from a mile away). But since then, McCain has abandoned what he believed and "got in line". He has lost alot of respect from me for that over the years. Not to mention that he wants to continue almost every failed policy of this administration. I do think he is a smart guy, so why doesn't he come up with new ideas? Is he worried about the backlash from the NeoCon's? I don't know...
July 21, 2008
1:01 PM
P_Denver writes:
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July 21, 2008
1:16 PM
ML writes:
JMH: "I just have to laugh when someone who actually voted for Bush twice has the audacity to think he has any credibilty left about what is best for this country."
Shaggy, are you paying attention?
July 21, 2008
1:20 PM
Shaggy writes:
Like Obama has any credibility or experience...hehehe
The Iraqi Prime Minister and the rest of the world are laughing at the Liberal buffoon.
What is really going to piss the femdems off is that Bush will be remembered as a genius for securing an ally in the Middle East and giving it's people freedom.
The troops can't stand the dazed and confused immature Obama and his defeatist Liberal stance, the troops are winners who want to stay the course and get-er done.
July 21, 2008
1:22 PM
Shaggy writes:
No talking points here, just explaining the TRUTH about the very liberal and very immature Obama.
I find it amusing that all of you with man crushes on the plastic messiah come to his defense when the TRUTH is told about him.
This idiot had only 143 days of experience in the Senate before he made his run.
Truth is is that he wouldn't be where he is now if he was white.
That is a fact.
Another FACT...Obama has NEVER held a job that wasn't tax payer paid.
This big eared dork has NEVER EARNED anything on his own...He has used his skin color and self pity for all of his personal gain..
I am not a big McCain supporter for various reasons but he does understand the importance of securing an ally in the Middle East.
Obama has always wanted defeat in Iraq, Obama is a loser. True Americans are winners.
July 21, 2008
1:26 PM
Thanksforagoodlaugh writes:
I find it amusing that all of you with man crushes on the plastic messiah come to his defense when the TRUTH is told about him."
Its even more amusing to watch Shaggy defend Bush and his plastic dittohead McCain.
"This idiot had only 143 days of experience in the Senate before he made his run"
True but no one was willing to make the change of course America wants. McCain wants more of the same. Most will still make the same mistake on Iraq even though there never was WMDs.
"Truth is is that he wouldn't be where he is now if he was white"
Sorry but no white guy stepped forward and voted against the war to begin with. Lots and lots of white guys in Congress voted for war. This still is the difference in judgement.
"Another FACT...Obama has NEVER held a job that wasn't tax payer paid"
"
So what job did McCain hold that was a private job? This guy is a career politician.
"This big eared dork has NEVER EARNED anything on his own...He has used his skin color and self pity for all of his personal gain"
Hows that? Self pity? When?
"I am not a big McCain supporter for various reasons but he does understand the importance of securing an ally in the Middle East."
Whats the difference? Iraqi don't want us there and they want us to leave. Saddam was an ally too
so is Saudi Arabia too. nice friends huh?
Iraq is a waste of time to spend on people who hate us. Its time to move on. McCain has no clue how to end this war. No clue
July 21, 2008
1:31 PM
JMH writes:
"The Iraqi Prime Minister and the rest of the world are laughing at the Liberal buffoon" - shaggy
No... everyone is laughing at YOU!
The Iraqi Prime Minister wants to work with Obama. He wants a "timetable". Just pisses you off that the Iraqis want us out huh and that even Bush has come around to Obama's plan! But of course they resort to marketing to say it. "Time horizons", time tables... same thing. In fact, today al-Maliki was talking with Obama about troops being out by 2010!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25774091/
Secondly, as far as the world - hate to break it to you but the whole world hates us due to Bush's policies. In a poll in Britain (who is an ally) Obama is favored 5-1 over McSame! And it is pretty safe to say MOST of the world agrees! There is a reason Bush has to stay behind closed doors and always has tens of thousnads of protesters following him everywhere when he goes overseas.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/21/mccain.obama/index.html
So keep staying in the dark about reality numbnuts! It's actually quite amusing to listen to your logic and reason someimes.
July 21, 2008
1:36 PM
Shaggy writes:
I am relieved to know that Al Qaeda will stop hating us and quit wanting to chop our heads off when Bush leaves office and that Britain now votes for President of the U.S. Sheez, the stupidity coming out of the left. However, Isn't it wonderful to see that we will be able to pull out some troops because Bush's surge has worked so successfully. I remember when the Iraqis were begging us to stay until they could get their ares's together to secure the Country. Looks like everything is falling into place and it PROVES the plastic messiah was wrong all along thus makes Bush look like a genius...hehehe. I see where the plastic messiah has announced we need more troops in Afganistan( as if this clown even has a clue what is going on in Afganistan)....hahaha, this will piss off the left loons. Someone please tell this idiot that that is what Bush and McCain have both stated.
July 21, 2008
2:59 PM
JW writes:
"I am relieved to know that Al Qaeda will stop hating us and quit wanting to chop our heads off when Bush leaves office"
Politics of fear.
Sissy.
July 21, 2008
3:19 PM
Shaggy writes:
JW, Do you mean like the man made global warming hoax algore and Obama are running on?
Terrorism is very much real.
Obama has no clue, he thinks he can negotiate with them and become buds with them.
Obama is an idiot.
July 21, 2008
5:18 PM
Hogar De Vuelta (العودة) Conservative because both parties are a bunch of whores writes:
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6. The Federal government cannot spend any tax money to repair damage caused by natural disasters.
7. No corporation or other organization engaged in business may engage in any political activity whatsoever.
July 21, 2008
5:34 PM
Ben-Independent writes:
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July 22, 2008
7:54 AM
Anonymous writes:
" I remember when the Iraqis were begging us to stay until they could get their ares's together to secure the Country"
If this is true how is it that there is a counterinsurgency aimed at killing us? Begging us to stay? Only Bush supporters are begging us to stay. The surge only suppresses this counterinsurgency temporarily. keeping our troops there is unsustainable in the long run
Prior surges didn't work either. This is just window dressing until Bush leaves office. Then it all blows up.
" thus makes Bush look like a genius...hehehe."
Bush is a genius compared to voters like Shaggy
Ho ho ho
"I see where the plastic messiah has announced we need more troops in Afganistan( as if this clown even has a clue what is going on in Afganistan)....hahaha, this will piss off the left loons. Someone please tell this idiot that that is what Bush and McCain have both stated"
Yes but did Bush and McCain SEND troops there? No
Guess what? Taliban are back. Ha ha ha? Bush is the guy in charge too. Brilliant!
am relieved to know that Al Qaeda will stop hating us and quit wanting to chop our heads off when Bush leaves office and that Britain now votes for President of the U.S. Sheez, the stupidity coming out of the left"
Yeah Al Queda has its bases where? Baghdad?
Whos stupid? You are thats who. btw Britain has left Iraq too
"
July 22, 2008
8:25 AM
jay writes:
"JW, tries to break out the old "phobia" schtick he learned from the homos in SF, as if it carries weight. Then HE strarts freaking out. lol"
observer is still trolling instead of actually adding to the discussion. par for the course.
shaggy...you are still spouting the same far right wing myths that rush is.
why do you suppose that is? lack of education?
we're the last folks holding the tulip in iraq.
the surge was and is a failure. it has failed to achieve its stated goal. period.
now that our surge troops HAVE to come home because we don't have the resources necessary to sustain it...we're back in the same place we were 18 months ago.
still not enough stability to foster self governance and STILL no closer to a political solution to the civil war.
obama is the only candidate willing to represent the will of the iraqi and the american people...who want a timetable for withdrawal regardless of conditions on the ground.
mcsame offers....well....a continuation of the failed policies that have brought us to this place in time.
whack a mole STILL isn't sound middle east policy.
so...either we start the draft and send our soldiers in combat the resources they need to "win" and come home or let's at least send them to places where they can actually fight those who had something to do with 9/11 and who actually pose a threat to the us.
July 22, 2008
9:08 AM
gr8fuldude writes:
Dobson will have no choice but to get behind McCain...What is his option, to vote for Obama? We all know that aint going to happen, so he may as well get in line. Same goes for Jessie Jackson, who we all know will never vote repub.
The posturing on the part of all of these folks is lame at best, and repulsive at worst. I think the most narcissistic aspect though is that people like Dobson adn Jackson assume we want (or care about) their opinions.
July 22, 2008
9:56 AM
gr8fuldude writes:
Holy $%#@!
I may have spoken too soon:
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/UnNews:Jesse_Jackson_endorses_McCain%3B_Obama%27s_lead_skyrockets
July 22, 2008
10:09 AM
Tom writes:
Gr8 that article of yours
"Still, Jackson stands by his comments.
"I stand by John McCain, because John McCain represents the change that all Americans can agree with: No change at all. John McCain can redefine America, by saying 'We don't need redefining!' I'm not sure why Barack wants to change the political environment in the first place. It's gotten people like me famous, and isn't that what we all want?"
This is hilarious. This is the kiss of death for John McSame
July 22, 2008
1:58 PM
Shaggy aka Obamas typical bitter white person writes:
Jay must listen to Rush everyday to know what his talking about or Jay is just lying with no credibility.
I am sure the latter applies.
The surge has worked, Obama was ans is wrong.
Obama wants an unconditional time line withdrawal instead of what is happening in the field.
Obama is an idiot, no credibility, no experience and flips his stance at every turn.
But anyhoo, Iraq is not a deciding factor bec ause it is going well, the Liberal New York times even has stated such.
The other Liberal papers don't write about it because they don't have anything bad to write about....hehehe
Obama and the other Liberals want failure but they aren't getting it.
The deciding factor in who wins this election is the one who opens up drilling to lower the price at the pump.
Obama says no.
McCain says yes.
Say hello to our next President...Mr.John McCain.
btw, everyone who has a brain can see that Obama is taking this trip as a photo op and to try and look like he has credibility, which he doesn't.
He is a nothing but a phony.
You femdems get so excited every election year yet you fail miserably every time....hehehe
July 22, 2008
2:40 PM
Shaggy writes:
Another thing, some one please tell the plastic messiah that he isn't the President and has no authority what so ever to be negotiating with Iraqi officials.
Serious, this is how naive he is.
He also has a studdering problem when no pre promps are written for him.
What a clown.
And it is funny to see how Rush scares the left loons...hehehe
Maybe that is why Rush has the number one rated radio show with the most listeners and the Liberal stations and papers are going bankrupt...hehehe
July 22, 2008
3:37 PM
jay writes:
shaggy...i'm not quite sure if you could get any more irrelevant here.
your posts seem to be getting less intelligent by the day.
all you do is just spout the same debunked myths that rush et al are without any source of proof whatsoever.
please tell me you're haven't spawned little dumb children.
July 22, 2008
4:22 PM
Shaggy aka Obamas typical bitter white person writes:
Rush just scares the hell out of you loons doesn't he jay.
He exposes the truth about Obama and people listen to him for that reason..in fact many people listen to him. That is why you can't stand him, because he exposes people like Obama.
Obama wants us to lose in Iraq because it helps his personal cause.
This is typical of Liberals to put the good of the their personal agendas before the good of the Country and world.
These are just facts jay that you refuse to acknowledge because you want the plastic messiah with ZERO experience as President because he is a flaming Liberal such as yourself.
July 23, 2008
12:01 PM
jay writes:
"Obama wants us to lose in Iraq because it helps his personal cause"
"This is typical of Liberals to put the good of the their personal agendas before the good of the Country and world"
"These are just facts jay that you refuse to acknowledge because you want the plastic messiah with ZERO experience as President because he is a flaming Liberal such as yourself"
cases in point.
wow.
July 23, 2008
4:39 PM
Observer writes:
Shaggy spot on, and yes jay does equal= ignorant selfish flamer.