August 12, 2008 11:42 AM
Focus on Family: just kidding about praying for rain during Obama event
"I know to you, it might sound strange, but I wish it would rain." - The Temptations
"I'm talking 'umbrella-ain't-going-to-help-you rain." Focus on the Family's self-styled satricial plea for prayers for rain during Barack Obama's acceptance speech at Invesco Field.
Those fun-loving folks at Focus on the Family have pulled their pray-for-rain video, insisting it was "meant to be mildly humorous."
But complaints from about a dozen Focus members convinced the organization to pull the video, said Tom Minnery, Focus Action vice president of public policy."If people took it seriously, we regret it," Minnery said Monday.
August 12, 2008
12:23 PM
Shaggy writes:
There is nothing worse than the smell of 75,000 wet loons.
August 12, 2008
12:51 PM
Creedence Clearwater Revival writes:
Oh, I wonder, still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain?
August 12, 2008
12:55 PM
Marcus writes:
That would be just terrible.
Democrats hate the disinfecting light of the sun but abhor even worse the cleansing wash of rain.
August 12, 2008
1:00 PM
history buff writes:
Behold, the mystery of God. We need rain and we need Obama. Either way, we are blessed.
August 12, 2008
1:17 PM
Holier Than Thou writes:
Rain or shine or snow or wind, the day will be beautiful, especially when Barack Obama is inaugurated as president of the United States of America.
August 12, 2008
1:30 PM
Holier Than Thou writes:
Since Focus on the Family hates gay men, or any lifestyle that isn't prescribed by their peculiar interpretation of the Bible. Their desire to bring bad weather via prayer does call into question one of their cherished religious claims.
If God wanted everyone to worship Him then why did he create skeptical "alpha" males?
Wouldn't He, in His Infinite Wisdom, expect a bunch of us to say, "I ain't going to worship you, Divine Butthead! Look at this huge mess You put us in! I can do a better job! Step aside and let me do it."
So, God would then have to create gay men who could really love him. But that still leaves out most of the rest of us guys. Then you have a bunch of God-fearing men. Those in Focus on the Family must cringe at all that fire and brimstone. They're God's Own chickens and certainly aren't alpha enough to defy God. But they get jealous of gay men because only they can really love God completely.
The best answer to this quandary is that God must be a Woman.
August 12, 2008
1:54 PM
God writes:
htt, don't be such a flaming twit.
August 12, 2008
2:23 PM
Tim writes:
Anyone that thinks certain people are less human then themselves are obviously wrong. These religious people cling to their cults and shun away outsiders because they fear judgement.
Oh no, someone might have an opinion that is different then yours! Quick, call them sinners and burn them at the stake!
You people make God sick to his stomach. I bet God can't sleep at night knowing that he made people, and some of them turned out to be religious fanatics like yourselves.
Why can't you do your thing, and I'll do mine. I promise not to force you to do anything you do not want to do, and you stfu up about abortion and gay people.
August 12, 2008
2:38 PM
Barack Obama writes:
If it starts to rain, I the messiah will make it stop and let there be sun shine.
Have no fear my little brown nosers.
August 12, 2008
3:23 PM
JMH writes:
Why is ANYTHING the wackos @ Focus on the Family have to say news?
The RMN seems to have a sick love for these guys. It seems that once a week you pick up the paper and there is some article about who they hate now or who they are judging now. Who CARES?
These people are nothing more than an oversized cult. Seems to me God doesn't seem to like them very much, since they seem to put their foot in their mouth constantlty.
Please RMN, please acting like these fruitcakes matter!
August 12, 2008
3:52 PM
Shaggy writes:
Calm down Bam Bam.
No need to hate so much.
You should spend a little time at Focus on the Family for some well needed guidance.
Cleanse your sole my friend.
August 12, 2008
5:04 PM
Ben-Former Democrat writes:
Check out that religious intolerance and bigotry from the "liberals". Bunch of sick puppies.
August 12, 2008
5:05 PM
jay writes:
can i film this rain dance of theirs?
if it doesn't rain does that mean their god hates them as much as he hates gay people and those who have abortions?
August 12, 2008
5:30 PM
Ben-born again "liberal" writes:
The orginal bigot right on cue. No need for the hateful deceptive smear attacks on the Christians. How about a link on all the alledged hate by Focus the Family?
Radical left wing losers.
August 12, 2008
6:56 PM
RB-Chicago writes:
Dobdon's clan..what hacks...they're all liars and fools...We'll all laugh when Chimpy's Stasi comes and picks them all up for not doing his bidding...LOSERS....LOL....
August 12, 2008
7:09 PM
doubled writes:
"No need for the hateful deceptive smear attacks on the Christians."
The story is about a mildly humorous attack on Dems. Dolt.
August 12, 2008
9:13 PM
JW writes:
"You should spend a little time at Focus on the Family for some well needed guidance."
Oh for fucks sake Shaggy. Did you actually just say that? Hey, lets all go listen to the sermons of Fred Phelps while we are at it!
I've got nothing against you being a religious man Shaggy, but if you really think Focus on the Family represents ANYTHING Jesus did you need to pick up that bible and THINK about what it says rather than just regurgitate it like propaganda. Those people are the WORST kind of ideological bigots, and it wouldnt matter if they said the same crap as "Buddhists" or "Muslims" or "Mormons" or "Flying Pizza Monsters". The religion is NOT the problem. The people are.
August 13, 2008
6:55 AM
Ben- exposer of "liberal" hypocrysy writes:
Now the question I pose. How many of you here have actually gone to Focus on the Family down in the Springs? How many have gone on their web site? How many here have ever spoke when one of their members? How many have ever listened to Dobson speak at length on a subject?
Yet apparently it is a love fest for hate from the pawns of the secularist liberal elites.
August 13, 2008
8:35 AM
JW writes:
Ive read some of Dobson's crap. I've seen what they have to say about election issues. I've watched them say one thing, then come right out and do something different. I've read their bigotry, and I've seen the flaws in their policy stances.
Why would I waste my time visiting them? I don't believe what they do, and unlike them, I think I have the RIGHT to do so!
And Benny, you say "Secularist liberal" like its a dirty word. The main problme there is that the founding father's of this country would fit your definition of "Secularist Liberal". Guess you dont believe in the constitution, or the freedom our founding fathers gave us.
August 13, 2008
9:50 AM
Shaggy writes:
JW,
I don't remember addressing you in my previous post but you also could use some spiritual guidance and sole cleansing from focus on the family as you too are filled with Liberal hate.
I will pray for you.
August 13, 2008
10:40 AM
JW writes:
Shaggy, you do that, and since you believe it will do some good, I'll even say thanks.
But filled with liberal hate is bs man. I dont hate Christianity or any other religion. What I hate is the people who use it as an excuse to try and legislate away my freedoms. And if you think that hate is wrong, you should have met some of our forefathers. They would have blown your head off for freedom from that kind of tyranny.
August 13, 2008
11:08 AM
Shaggy writes:
Just screwing with you and JMH is all...hehehe
I havent been to church since I was about 8 years old. Except for weddings&Funerals ect...
Even though I am a Conservative, I tend to have more belief in evolution and the big bang theory.
I know it may sound contradicting because my daughter is attending a Bible college and I support her 100%.
As I do with any decision she makes.
I stay mum when it comes to talking religion and my personal beliefs...especially with her.
August 13, 2008
12:06 PM
SASQUATCH writes:
I'M PRAYING FOR LIGHTNING!
August 13, 2008
1:46 PM
KW writes:
Hey Shaggy - Isn't it extremely likely that if the world did come about from the big bang theory... as well as humans evolving from apes, that this was Gods plan all along.
I mean, even a mighty oak has to start out as a funny looking acorn.
And a much bigger question to ponder... rather than worry about where man came from, or the world for that matter. But just where exactly did God come from?
Mind boggling indeed, don't you agree? And I consider myself a (non church attending) Christian.
August 13, 2008
3:00 PM
Shaggy writes:
"Isn't it extremely likely that if the world did come about from the big bang theory... as well as humans evolving from apes, that this was Gods plan all along."--KW
But the Bible doesn't suggest this at all, it tells us we were created along with earth.
But man has only been on earth for a very very short period of time compared to the earths age.
I find many things in the Bible hard to swallow, such as the splitting of the sea, sticks into snakes ect..
Like I said, this is one subject I try to stay away from...just in case, if you know what I mean.
Science seems to have the more logical reasoning about how life began with a ice meteorite crashing into earth bringing water thus with the sun, creating simple single celled organisms.
It has been proven that our Universe is expanding suggesting that a huge explosion occurred.
It is indeed mind boggling to say the least.
I do know one thing though and that is we are so very fragile, just one thing out of place such as the sun to close or too far or not at all or the absent of the moon, we would never be!!
August 13, 2008
3:04 PM
JMH writes:
KW & shaggy,
Actually something I can agree with you guys on... While I may seem vicious to religious people, it is really intended for those "religious" people that use their religion as an excuse for their prejudges or when they think they have all the answers and we need to follow them. Dobson is a perfect example.
I will admit I tend to agree with what KW just said, MAYBE God or some supreme being caused the big bang, etc... We just don't know. No one does... But I'm of the opinion that IF there is a God or whatever, he is too large and our understanding is too small to fit him neatly under one religion... if any... Thus I am against any one religion trying to inject their religion into any school teachings (at least public schools). Just the facts please!
I actually can relate to what you say about trying to aviod religion with your daughter shaggy... I'm in the same boat myself.
Grew up in a big, Irish Catholic family and I have turned away from the Catholic church for many personal reasons and opinions about the Catholic church... but I consitantly find myself having to sit through church (up & down... up & down. Other Catholics will know what I am talking about...haha) with a fake smile on my face and fighting the urge to go running from the building for the sake of my family during Christenings, Confermations, funerals, etc... Maybe I'm just in it for the parties afterwards. Irish wakes & post confermation / communnions are a blast! One thing about being a Catholic, all you gotta do is repent at the end... (wink, wink)
August 13, 2008
3:13 PM
KW writes:
JMH - Agree back at ya. While to me there is no question as to whether or not God exists, our feeble size brain capacity will never allow us fully understand all there is to know.
We can barely handle worldly knowledge as it is.
Which is one of the main reasons that, while my beliefs are Christian based, I find no need to immerse myself with that "man created" thing known as religion.
August 13, 2008
3:17 PM
GOD writes:
"SASQUATCH writes:
I'M PRAYING FOR LIGHTNING!"
Ask and you shall receive Sas! A big lightning bolt coming straight for ya!
August 13, 2008
3:31 PM
JMH writes:
KW...
As far as your questions about "who created God", I've actually wondered... Maybe the Greeks had it right, maybe their are alot of Gods and maybe OUR God is just one of them and maybe, just maybe the Big Bang, life on our planet, the whole solar system may just be a teenage God's science experiment for school?...
OK... Maybe I smoke too much... haha
August 13, 2008
3:43 PM
The Doobie Brothers writes:
Jesus is just all right with me!
August 13, 2008
3:50 PM
Barrack Hussein Obama writes:
There is only one God and his name is Allah.
August 13, 2008
3:51 PM
gr8fuldude writes:
KW / JMH - I've always thought Man's ability to understand God is like an ant staring up at the Empire State Building and thinking that it understands the pulmbing and heating systems therein. Maybe I (used to ) smoke too much...;)
August 13, 2008
4:32 PM
KW writes:
Gr8 analogy!
August 13, 2008
4:41 PM
americangal4ever writes:
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August 13, 2008
5:02 PM
KW writes:
Regardless of who's votes he's gonna steal, with this kind of turnout I don't believe either party will suffer much come November.
• "Ralph Nader Greets 150 Supporters in Toronto"--headline, National Post (Canada), Aug. 12 *
August 13, 2008
6:50 PM
Hiram writes:
I get far fewer headaches since finding out the answer to life, the universe, and everything is 42
August 13, 2008
7:21 PM
Shaggy writes:
OMG
Could Bam Bam and KW please get a room..I think I am going to get sick.:) :) :)
August 13, 2008
7:22 PM
Shaggy writes:
And I might have to have a little chat with KW...cough cough
August 13, 2008
7:54 PM
priscilla writes:
I got a better one- Awesome!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-2MApzMpDs&feature=related
August 13, 2008
11:33 PM
KW writes:
Shaggy - It's ok to agree with someone once in a blue moon. Lets just not make a habit of it. Folks from the far side will be back with their harpoons (blunt as they may be) soon enough.
August 14, 2008
8:17 AM
Shaggy writes:
Just messing with ya KW..suppose to be a nice cool day today here in Denver 70's.....89 in Phoenix as I type this, suppose to get up to 103 there...don't know how you handle that.
August 14, 2008
8:43 AM
Lawrence Bell writes:
Boy, the angry anti-Christians really came out.
Focus on the Family has clearly done more to slow the moral crash of America than any group has, for many decades.
We praise the Lord for them. And Christians should pray that Focus on the Family will be able to endure the attacks and outright lies by those few (but extremely vocal) who obviosuly also hate God.
August 14, 2008
8:52 AM
JMH writes:
Shaggy,
Don't be jealose... I still let you keep your man-crush on me... :)
August 14, 2008
9:01 AM
JW writes:
"Boy, the angry anti-Christians really came out."
Yet another idiot who cant make the distinction between disliking a religion, and disliking PEOPLE who use religion as an EXCUSE to tell others what to believe and how to live.
"Focus on the Family has clearly done more to slow the moral crash of America than any group has, for many decades."
Unless you consider the constitution the ultimate expression of our morals. In that case, Focus on the Family has done more to HASTEN the decline of America than anyone but Jerry Falwell.
"We praise the Lord for them. And Christians should pray that Focus on the Family will be able to endure the attacks and outright lies by those few (but extremely vocal) who obviosuly also hate God."
Hehe. Again, I dont hate God. But if you want to tell me that you KNOW what God wants, and so you can set LAWS regulating my behavior...well, as I said, the people who founded this country fought and died to stop that kind of religious based tyranny. If you think I "Hate" you, what would you have thought of Washington as he blew your head off for trying to take his "Inalienable Freedoms" in the name of "God"?
Understand it now: The problem is not "God". The problem is not "Religion". The problem is PEOPLE who use God and Religion as a bases for tyranny against others of dissimilar belief. YOU dont get to tell me what to believe chump. I have GUARANTEED freedom of religon, meaning I can believe whatever I want. YOU dont get to tell me what my morals should be based on what YOU believe. I have FREEDOM to set MY OWN morals, and I dont need your help, any more than you needed mine.
In short, YOU were given the freedom to chose your beliefs and morals for yourself. Have some basic respect for your fellow humans and give us the same freedom, thanks.
August 14, 2008
9:34 AM
Firemen writes:
A rather frightening (but expected) response by Jay.
Firemen risk their lives to save people from a burning building.
Similarly, Focus on the Family tries to save people from spending enternity in hell. But, amazingly the very people who are being rescued hurl angry expletives at their rescuers.
That response doesn't make any sense.
But obviously people who sin don't want to stop their sinning. So they attack anyone who warns them to not destroy their lives.
Rather than attack Focus on the Family, Jay should read the Bible. God clearly tells us what he wants us to do, and not to do.
And it is God to whom we will have to explain our defiance against His commands, during our very brief time on earth.
Will we be able to convince Him that we deserve to be in Heaven??
August 14, 2008
9:47 AM
JW writes:
"Firemen risk their lives to save people from a burning building."
And you can actually see a building on fire. There is heat. There are flames. There is PROOF.
"Similarly, Focus on the Family tries to save people from spending enternity in hell."
No proof. Just belief. And every person on earth has a constitutionally guaranteed right to believe different. I dont care if you "Believe" in your heart of hearts you are trying to save someone else. If they dont believe the same, youve got NO RIGHT to force what you believe on them. PERIOD.
"Rather than attack Focus on the Family, Jay should read the Bible. God clearly tells us what he wants us to do, and not to do."
And Focus on the Family CLEARLY takes what they want from the bible, and throws out the rest. Additionally, the bible is only the word of God if you BELIEVE it is. And since everyone has the right to BELIEVE otherwise, your belief doesnt entitle you to trample the rights of others.
"And it is God to whom we will have to explain our defiance against His commands, during our very brief time on earth."
Again, your belief. You are entitled to it, and I have no problem with what you have chosen to believe. I have a problem with you trying to force me to make the same choice. Its not your place to do so. PERIOD.
And then of course we have the central fallacy of your belief system; God is infinitely just, loving, and forgiving. Somehow, this ifinitely just, loving, and forgiving God will throw you in a lake of fire forever if you disobey him. There is no way to justify doing that, regardless of one's crime. Its simply disgusting. There is no way an "infinitely loving" God could do something so unloving as to burn people forever. And there is no way you can call a God "Infinetly forgiving" when the punnishment for disobediance is so harsh, and so final that there is NO opportunity for forgiveness whatsoever. Just ridiculous.
August 14, 2008
10:15 AM
JMH writes:
Fireman... Learn to read (seems to be a common problem with some of you out there lately)... I know you want to believe that ALL the "liberal" posters on this site are just one guy using different alias' but I hate to break it to you... WE are all different people (JW made that post, not jay... I'm JMH. Try to get past the first letter...) and there are more Dems in this country than Republicans, and more Independants than both liberals and conservatives.
You are in the minority. Accept it! I know it must be hard thinking that you are one of God's special little people & the rest of us who don't blindly follow ancient fairy tales are sinners, but we don't need your help. Are lives are just fine...
I have no fear from your invisible man in the sky or what YOU think will make us go to hell. Don't push YOUR fairy tales on us & I'll keep my relationship with God to myself? Get it?
August 14, 2008
4:28 PM
jay writes:
remember kids....pointing out ignorance does not make one ignorant.
pointing out hate does not make one a hater.
pointing out bigotry does not make one a bigot.
August 14, 2008
8:24 PM
Firemen writes:
JW and JMH
Please think (and research) carefully before you reject God.
Just because you decide that God doesn't exist; doesn't eliminate Him.
And We want you to spend eternity in heaven;
not in hell.
So please give your decision more consideration.
August 28, 2008
11:02 AM
11thCavVet writes:
How sweet it is! The conservatives pray for rain and God brings sunshine to Denver and a hurricane to greet the GOP. Looks like God has a message of his own!
August 28, 2008
11:02 AM
11thCavVet writes:
How sweet it is! The conservatives pray for rain and God brings sunshine to Denver and a hurricane to greet the GOP. Looks like God has a message of his own!
August 28, 2008
11:02 AM
11thCavVet writes:
How sweet it is! The conservatives pray for rain and God brings sunshine to Denver and a hurricane to greet the GOP. Looks like God has a message of his own!