August 29, 2008 8:46 AM
McCain picks Palin - gamble or genius? Or both?
John McCain has chosen Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, a 44-year-old pro-life social conservative who loves hockey and hunting, to be his running mate.
McCain kept his vice presidential pick a closely guarded secret mere hours before the high-stakes announcement today and speculation moved to Palin as other, more prominent prospects dropped away.Palin is described as a self-styled "hockey mom" and political reformer.
With an announcement scheduled in Dayton, Ohio, an associate of Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty said the governor had been informed he was not McCain's pick.
The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak for Pawlenty, who had all but ruled himself out.
"I'm not going to be there. I plan to be at the state fair. You can draw your conclusion from that," Pawlenty said on his weekly call-in radio show on WCCO-AM in Minneapolis. He also called it "a fair assumption" that would not be McCain's running mate.
Associates close to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney were saying the same thing, telling The Associated Press that the former presidential candidate had not been offered the job by McCain.
Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va., who has been an energetic supporter of McCain for months, was also eliminated from contention, according to a Republican official.
Palin is a first-term governor credited with reforms of her out-of-the-way state. Newly minted Democratic nominee Barack Obama is making an aggressive play for the traditional GOP stronghold and its three electoral votes, and polls show the race close.
At 44, Palin is younger than Obama and, like McCain, she calls herself a maverick.
Wise choice to pick someone who is expected to energize the conservative base? Can they convince America that she is ready to be President if necessary? Will it draw women to the ticket?
August 29, 2008
9:16 AM
salsmom writes:
Good job McCain - added to your extensive list of flip-flops. Experience, experience, experience, oh well, McCain doesn't need a VP with experience. Ain't no way John is going to kick the bucket while he is in office.
The repubs always cry that the dems play the race or gender card - he just played the gender card since he can't win on policy issues - Bush/McCain/Palin - all of the same and nothing new.
August 29, 2008
9:42 AM
KW writes:
Hillary must be grinning like the cat that ate the canary.
August 29, 2008
9:48 AM
Dennis writes:
Great of McCain to pick a no-name with no clout. I was actually worried that he might pick someone who would pose a serious threat to the Dems. President Obama seems a certainty now.
August 29, 2008
10:02 AM
Shaggy writes:
The more I learn about this women the more I like her.
She has definitley earned and worked her way to where she is. Unlike Obama.
She wants to drill.
She is also a life time member of the NRA.
Plus she is very pretty.
August 29, 2008
10:07 AM
KW writes:
Shaggy - Help me if you can, I'm flipping through all the channels looking for some coverage of Obama's speech last night but I can't find anything.
Every channel seems to have forgotten all about last night and the main focus is all on McCain.
Do you know where I can maybe find some crusty old video of last nights speech?
August 29, 2008
10:10 AM
Anonymous writes:
This going to be a major problem for Obama because she has more experience than him.
August 29, 2008
10:21 AM
Shaggy writes:
KW,
It was just words KW, the glitz and glamor is all over and forgotten now.
I watched a little of it though and Obama kept saying they were the party for advancing women rights yet Obama refused to even vet Hillary for V.P.
This is such an excellent choice, I am excited and I think you will be able to proudly vote Republican now.
August 29, 2008
10:23 AM
Ben-Former Democrat writes:
Knock out punch for Juan McAmnesty. She brings "change" makes history herself.
August 29, 2008
10:24 AM
JW writes:
"The more I learn about this women the more I like her."
Duh. Shes a Republican.
August 29, 2008
10:30 AM
Tim writes:
A woman who does not believe in women's rights. I think McCain just lost.
August 29, 2008
10:35 AM
gr8fuldude writes:
"Plus she is very pretty."...
Uhm...not exactly my cup of chai, but whatever works for you...
August 29, 2008
10:41 AM
Shaggy writes:
5 Kids, one is a down syndrome child and she didn't even think about abortion. A pro-lifer.
This is so great.
A true conservative.
Even has one child who enlisted in the Army who is on his way to Iraq.
She has a story behind her.
More experience than Obama.
Just so perfect in every way.
I want to see Obama try and throw her under the bus like he did Hillary and his grandmother.
Biben was picked to be the pit bull and I hope like hell he attacks her in front of all the world.
I love it, the independents and disappointed Hillary supporters will be jumping on the GOP band wagon. The true conservatives will now be backing McCain.
Listen to this women talk, she is a down to earth person. Not some career politician like Biden and not some Harvard made Politician.
Vote McCain/Palin. I love it.
Obama who?
August 29, 2008
10:52 AM
Shaggy writes:
Tim writes:
"A woman who does not believe in women's rights."
What an idiotic statement. She is all about womens rights dweeb. She just stated Hillary made 18 million cracks in that glass ceiling and women are not out of it yet, they can now shatter that glass ceiling.
Hillary has to be just fuming right now and I don't blame her.
She brought 18 million votes to the table and Biden brought 9000.
Thats right Dude, she is drop dead gorgeous and very inteligent.
I think we can leave it that.
August 29, 2008
11:07 AM
leftside writes:
Only 2% of Republicans felt she should be his selection.
As expected, kw and shaggy are falling in line and are ready to support this pick. Typical, no brains just "loyalism".
Oh well, if McCain is elected and doesn't live out is term we will have the best looking leader in the world. Maybe that will count for something.
August 29, 2008
11:15 AM
Obama 08 writes:
Obvious pandering. Voters are generally stupid, but not THAT stupid. Won't work. He is doomed.
August 29, 2008
11:21 AM
Anonymous writes:
Looks like the Dems are shaking in their fairy boots. They are toast and they know it.
August 29, 2008
11:30 AM
Four out of five lesbians agree writes:
Oh yeah! She a babe!
August 29, 2008
11:39 AM
Hail to the GOP writes:
She doesn't need to use a teleprompter and she speaks with out stuttering.
She likes moose burgers and domestic beer.
Obama likes cocaine, German brats and Imported European beer.
August 29, 2008
11:40 AM
history buff writes:
I guess McCain wants to make sure he carries Alaska. Oh, I found this about the nominee.
"Like many Alaska politicians these days, Palin is involved in an ethics scandal. Her sister was married to a state trooper named Mike Wooten. The two of them got divorced and were involved in a bitter child custody battle. Sarah wanted to help her sister so she asked the state commissioner of public safety, Walt Monegan, to fire Wooten. He refused, so she fired him. He protested so loudly that the Republican-controlled state legislature appointed a retired prosecutor, Steve Branchflower, to investigate whether she abused her power as governor."
It sounds like she is ready to take over Bush's Justice Department. She already knows how to abuse power.
August 29, 2008
11:49 AM
sooperburd writes:
Leftside:
So what if only 2% of Republicans thought McCain should pick Palin? Are all Republicans supposed to investigate each candidate (there are hundreds or thousands of them) as thoroughly as McCain has done? Just because we didn't unanimously vote for her doesn't mean our hearts are broken by his choice.
The real question is how many disenfranchised Hillary supporters would have voted for her as McCain's running-mate? How many of them will end up voting for McCain?
August 29, 2008
11:49 AM
Shaggy aka I'm luving it writes:
She said if they needed a bridge in Alaska they would build it themselves instead of wanting the Government to do it for them.
Last night Obama kept promising what the Government would do for us, how they would take care of us.
Of course Obama will get the majority of the black and hispanic vote making these kinds of promises.
MLK and JFK were rolling in their graves listening to Obama last night.
"Ask not what your Country can do for you, ask what you can do for your Country"--JFK
Quite different from Obamas approach of what the Government will do for you.
August 29, 2008
11:53 AM
Just got released from eight years of hard time writes:
Anyone know where I can buy another paper? Just gratified my only copy...
August 29, 2008
12:01 PM
Anonymous writes:
Well beings that her face is NOT on the cover of ANY papers YET, you might need a new monitor.
August 29, 2008
12:11 PM
ScottH writes:
This makes me kind of sad. It appears to be a strategy to attract votes from women who really want to vote for a woman on the ticket, based upon no other criteria whatsover. Does McCain really think that so many women are so stupid?
Or I am mis-interpreting things - is there some other reason that he chose such an unlikely and unqualified running mate? I am really worried about the high probability of McCain dying in office if he is elected, and then having her be the president and leaving us to depend upon her limited decision-making skills for the global stage.
I guess that it will be a brilliant strategy if it works, which will make me even more sad.
August 29, 2008
12:17 PM
Observer writes:
Kids with Down's Syndrome? Looks like the apple didn't fall too far from THAT tree...
August 29, 2008
12:22 PM
Barb writes:
This is the absolute worst choice McCain could have decided upon. It proves that he is totally clueless OR has a blatant disregard for wildlife.
Palin has supported and PROMOTED aerial hunting of wolves in Alaska. They chase them from airplanes and helicopters to exhaustion and then shoot them, often missing, so the wolf is wounded and suffers, while trying to get away. They continue to chase the poor animal until he can't run anymore and then shoot it.
The Alaskan voters twice voted this brutal practice down but the administration would find ways around it.
Watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr183lk-wQk
Nice huh?
McCain is a fool and does not deserve anyone's vote.
August 29, 2008
12:23 PM
Hogar De Vuelta (العودة) Let's hear it for the first woman VP writes:
Let's see a presidential candidate with 173 days in the Senate vs 26 years in the Senate, and now a wife, mother, business woman and governor vs 37 years in the Senate with the only thing accomplished is plagerizing a British speech and strealing their family identity. This could be very detrimental to Obama and could even threathen Hillary in 2012.
August 29, 2008
12:26 PM
Barb writes:
Palin is no friend of wildlife either, that's for sure.
This is the absolute worst choice McCain could have decided upon. It proves that he is totally clueless OR has a blatant disregard for wildlife.
Palin has supported and PROMOTED aerial hunting of wolves in Alaska. They chase them from airplanes and helicopters to exhaustion and then shoot them, often missing, so the wolf is wounded and suffers, while trying to get away. They continue to chase the poor animal until he can't run anymore and then shoot it.
The Alaskan voters twice voted this brutal practice down but the administration would find ways around it.
Watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr183lk-wQk
Nice huh?
McCain does not deserve anyone's vote.
August 29, 2008
12:29 PM
Danielle writes:
We are delighted by McCain's selection of a running mate. Do you really think she will secure the votes of "disenfranchised" Hillary supporters?!?!!? She's big business, anti-environment, anti-women and a former beauty pageant contestant.... Allow me to ponder this... hmmm... do strong, democratic, women's rights activists identify with her? I do believe that is a resounding NO!
Wise choice, McCain. If you are going to employ your last shady tactic to win this race the only way the republican party knows how (the dirty way), then, at the minimum, select a worthy woman.
We thank you for your lapse in judgment.
August 29, 2008
12:30 PM
leftside writes:
sooperburd,
"The real question is how many disenfranchised Hillary supporters would have voted for her as McCain's running-mate? How many of them will end up voting for McCain?"
After last night maybe 5%. The pi**ed off sooperburd, their not stupid.
August 29, 2008
12:30 PM
Barb writes:
Palin is no friend of wildlife either, that's for sure.
This is the absolute worst choice McCain could have decided upon. It proves that he is totally clueless OR has a blatant disregard for wildlife.
Palin has supported and PROMOTED aerial hunting of wolves in Alaska. They chase them from airplanes and helicopters to exhaustion and then shoot them, often missing, so the wolf is wounded and suffers, while trying to get away. They continue to chase the poor animal until he can't run anymore and then shoot it.
The Alaskan voters twice voted this brutal practice down but the administration would find ways around it.
Watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr183lk-wQk
Nice huh?
The only possible good out of this is that it will bring even more attention to the problem in Alaska and the nation will demand they stop chasing wolves and killing them this way!
August 29, 2008
12:36 PM
Tree writes:
I love it. I really think this was McAlzheimer's team throwing in the towel. Talk about USING woman. I don't think Hillary's army ants are dumb enough to buy it.
I don't even think this is McAlzheimer's pick. I bet it was Big Oil's pick and Charley Black's pick. She's already to sell out Alaska to foreign interest. There's probably giant mechanical mosquito's with Republican oil tattoo's just waiting in warehouses ready to suck the oil out of ANWAR. You tools on the right, you've been had by your own party.
What do you get out of this deal righties? A big cup of nothing!! Notta!! Not even hope for a better future.
August 29, 2008
12:36 PM
Shaggy aka I'm luving it writes:
ScottH writes:
"is there some other reason that he chose such an unlikely and unqualified running mate?"
This women has more experience than Obama has.
Do your homework before judging.
Your right Hogar,
Hillary is not liking this.
The best thing that could happen to the Democrats is if something were to surface that makes Obama withdraw and Hillary takes the reins.
This election is all but over now.
Wait till America gets to know her, she will become Americas Sweetheart.
August 29, 2008
12:37 PM
Barb writes:
Palin has been involved in scandals, is no friend of wildlife, and is a terrible pick for VP. She is one of the worst choices McCain could have made.
In addition to the firing scandals surrounding her reign as Governor of Alaska, Palin has supported and PROMOTED aerial hunting of wolves in Alaska. They chase them from airplanes and helicopters to exhaustion and then shoot them, often missing, so the wolf is wounded and suffers, while trying to get away. They continue to chase the poor animal until he can't run anymore and then shoot it.
The Alaskan voters twice voted this brutal practice down but the administration would find ways around it.
Watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr183lk-wQk
Is McCain clueless or does he have a blatant disregard for wildlife?
The only possible good that could come out of this is that it will bring even more attention to the problem in Alaska and the nation will demand they stop chasing wolves and brutalizing our magnificent wildlife this way!
August 29, 2008
12:37 PM
Anon writes:
Wolves are animals that are inherently liberal. They are predators and should be hunted for the good of all.
August 29, 2008
12:41 PM
sooperburd writes:
Leftside:
I assume you meant to say "They're pi**ed off, sooperburd, they're not stupid."
If so, here's my response:
Half of 5% is all McCain needs to win in Colorado. Many other states are just as close. Let's hope you're right!
August 29, 2008
12:43 PM
Larry Flynt and Bob Guccione writes:
We had her when she was clean...see the 1974 July editions...
August 29, 2008
12:44 PM
BarbProtectsWolves writes:
Palin has been involved in scandals, is no friend of wildlife, and is a terrible pick for VP. She is one of the worst choices McCain could have made.
In addition to the firing scandals surrounding her reign as Governor of Alaska, Palin has supported and PROMOTED aerial hunting of wolves in Alaska, a boiling topic in Alaska. They chase them from airplanes and helicopters to exhaustion and then shoot them, often missing, so the wolf is wounded and suffers, while trying to get away. They continue to chase the poor animal until he can't run anymore and then shoot it.
The Alaskan voters twice voted this brutal practice down but the administration would find ways around it.
Watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr183lk-wQk
Is McCain clueless or does he have a blatant disregard for wildlife?
The only possible good that could come out of this is that it will bring even more attention to the problem in Alaska and the nation will demand they stop chasing wolves and brutalizing our magnificent wildlife this way!
August 29, 2008
12:46 PM
Shaggy aka I'm luving it writes:
"Now Obama, who has spent two years preventing a woman from being president, will spend two months preventing one from becoming vice president – and hopes to do so with women votes. The entire premise of the Democratic convention was the fungibility of Bush and McCain. Now McCain has vividly demonstrated the difference. Sarah Palin is no Dick Cheney!"---Dick Morris
This is so so true.
I hope like hell Obama try's to belittle another woman from holding a high office.
I hope like hell Biden try to rough her up in front of the world with all the women watching.
This is simply brilliant of McCain.
August 29, 2008
12:48 PM
Tree writes:
That's the point Barb. She's not his pick. You have just witnessed the power if fascism.
August 29, 2008
12:50 PM
gr8fuldude writes:
So if, during the course of the election it is ever revealed that she has smoked, do we get to call her....."Baked Alaska"?
August 29, 2008
12:52 PM
leftside writes:
sooperburd,
Of course your conveniently forgetting about the Republican crossover which will more than make up for the piddly 5%. Just guessing but you do agree the Republican crossover will most definitely out weigh the Democratic crossover. Their not all brainwashed.
...and don't correct my spelling. If you don't know what I mean, just ask. People who do that signal they have nothing of real value to offer.
August 29, 2008
12:53 PM
sooperburd writes:
BarbProtectsWolves:
Saving a few wolves may be your sole purpose in life, but most people don't care about a few animals in Alaska. Rational people understand that we can't just let all animal populations thrive unchecked.
For instance, look at the problems the mountain towns are having with elk populations here in CO. Allowed to grow unchecked, these elk populations destroy the environment and create a considerable risk to motorists.
You animal activists can't have your cake and eat it, too. There are always trade-offs. We must control wolf populations, regardless of how you feel about it.
August 29, 2008
1:02 PM
Barb writes:
Sooperburd: Get educated on the issue. 800 wolves this year alone is not "a few."
Saving native wildlife especially protecting our predators is critical to humankind's well being.
The reason the elks are overpopulating, is DIRECTLY DUE TO THE FACT they have no natural predators anymore! The cattle industry destroyed them. Ever hear of wolves as natural predators?
Please -- start reading and getting educated before you start engaging in discussions way over your head.
August 29, 2008
1:03 PM
Big_D writes:
It is pretty simple to say that Obama will fix our economy. “Trickle Down” economics has been proven a failure under three administrations so far and Obama will no longer subscribe to that failed policy. Giving the middle class more money and more jobs actually creates more money and jobs for the middle class. If you don't understand how Clinton was so successful you don't need to be in the Whitehouse. Obama understands how it works, I understand how it works. If you would like some information on the sound economic principles that "Trickle Down" economics defies just look up marginal utility and apply it to everyday life. Middle class people spend money, rich people accumulate money. People spending money makes our economy grow and we all have more. GET IT?
GO OBAMA ‘08
August 29, 2008
1:06 PM
sooperburd writes:
Leftside:
What Republican crossover? The polls show very tight races in many states. 2.5% is enough to win this election for either party. Since the race was already tight before the Palin pick, it's definitely anybody's game at this point. I'd be very concerned if I were Obama. We'll know a lot more about how the Palin pick affects the polls next week. Until then, this is just a bunch of guessing.
I have plenty of stuff that has real value to offer you. For example, the word "they're" is used to replace "they are", not "their". Glad I could be of help!
August 29, 2008
1:08 PM
Tbone writes:
Funny.
When Obama picked Biden, the rocky went out of its way to say how doomed Obama was, and that Biden was the worst possible choice.
Now that WcCain's picked Palin, the headline actually contains the word genius.
August 29, 2008
1:11 PM
Shaggy writes:
sooperburd writes:
"Allowed to grow unchecked, these elk populations destroy the environment and create a considerable risk to motorists."
They will also destroy themselves. When they become over populated, the food runs out, disease sets in and whole populations are wiped out.
August 29, 2008
1:13 PM
zbanks writes:
Not to discredit Palin, but I hope this is not some Republican ploy. If their political power play is pick a woman VP, thinking that women will more likely vote for another woman is a dumb move. Not to mention some women are far more critical of other women. Well time will tell...
August 29, 2008
1:13 PM
zbanks writes:
Not to discredit Palin, but I hope this is not some Republican ploy. If their political power play is pick a woman VP, thinking that women will more likely vote for another woman is a dumb move. Not to mention some women are far more critical of other women. Well time will tell...
August 29, 2008
1:15 PM
Barb writes:
By choosing such an anti wildlife choice for VP, McCain has just put in a lightening rod and motivated those who care about wildlife (proud treehuggers) to make sure he and his "beauty queen" DON'T win. Thanks John!
August 29, 2008
1:16 PM
Barb writes:
By choosing such an anti wildlife choice for VP, McCain has just put in a lightening rod and motivated those who care about wildlife (proud treehuggers) to make sure he and his "beauty queen" DON'T win. Thanks John!
August 29, 2008
1:17 PM
sooperburd writes:
Barb,
Would you rather all humans just leave North America so the wolves can be happy again? We have to make tough choices. Humans living on land once prowled by predators means we have to make tough choices. I'm glad you're not making the decisions on whether we can shoot 800 wolves or not.
The correct path is not always the one that makes you feel all fuzzy inside. We live in a real world where humans have displaced countless species. We can't revert to a world where we live harmoniously with all species.
Sorry, your utopia doesn't exist.
On a completely different note, how many wolves would you kill, Barb, to save just one human life?
August 29, 2008
1:17 PM
sooperburd writes:
Leftside:
What Republican crossover? The polls show very tight races in many states. 2.5% is enough to win this election for either party. Since the race was already tight before the Palin pick, it's definitely anybody's game at this point. I'd be very concerned if I were Obama. We'll know a lot more about how the Palin pick affects the polls next week. Until then, this is just a bunch of guessing.
I have plenty of stuff that has real value to offer you. For example, the word "they're" is used to replace "they are", not "their". Glad I could be of help!
August 29, 2008
1:22 PM
sooperburd writes:
Shaggy,
Exactly. The best choice given the current situation is to actively control predator and prey populations.
I don't hold anything against Palin for allowing 800 wolves to be shot. She was following the advice of environmental experts that, to the best of their knowledge, believed the 800 wolves needed to be shot.
She's definitely a woman who can make tough decisions and not be overtaken by emotion.
August 29, 2008
1:27 PM
sooperburd writes:
Leftside:
On the topic of giving you some of the valuable stuff I have to offer, let's look at another of your issues:
"Of course your conveniently forgetting about the Republican crossover..."
The word "your" is used incorrectly here. You should use the conjunction "you're", short for "you are".
August 29, 2008
1:29 PM
ScottH writes:
"Shaggy aka I'm luving it" is probably correct - her experience level is possibly sufficient for this position. We certainly know how well Bill Clinton worked out - with similar levels of experience. So the "experience" thing looks like a non-issue really.
I wonder what people think - did McCain choose her as part of a strategy to attract votes from women who really want to vote for a woman on the ticket, based upon no other criteria whatsover? Does McCain really think that so many women are so stupid? I would be interested to hear what other people think about that.
August 29, 2008
1:55 PM
Jeff writes:
Experience is huge here and the resume battle of achievements is one Obamma and Dems don't want.
Obamma has zero executive level experience (other than governing his wife and kids). He's spent his senatorial term running for president and away from decisions.
Palin has two years more than Obamma governing as the Governor of Alaska and well over that as the Mayor of her {small} town. Here achievements aren't well know but they will be and the contrast will be large.
The Dems are going to try to defame her and bring up McCain's age as her being 'one heartbeat from the presidency'. They'll try to link her to some non-existent corruption charge and paint her as a puppet of the 'mean-men of the Republican party'. She's just their wench, right JMH, JW and jay?
It's an interesting choice for McCain and will either pay high rewards in his win or prove to be a bad choice in his loss.
We righties welcome all the disgruntled Hillary voters who believe Obamma is the wrong choice and still want to make their votes count.
August 29, 2008
1:57 PM
am 760 writes:
This is hilarious. The right for the past month has continually bashed obama about his supposed lack of experience. Now mccain with his is wise judgement (although Rove probably made the pick) picks someone who has absolutely no experience in anything. She is the governor of a town of 5000 people, whooho. So if mccsame dies were left w/ someone who has no foreign policy agenda or any agenda. She was simply picked to appease the wacko righties who only vote on gays, guns and god, the typical 3 wedge issues the right runs out every 4 years.
August 29, 2008
1:58 PM
rickg19611 writes:
PERFECT PICK!
Democrats have been preaching that Obama's lack of experience should not be a concern. And now are claiming that VPs need that experience.
Voters choice.... an inexperienced President... or an "inexperienced VP that MIGHT be a President some day". Pretty weak argument for Democrats to use.
Hopefully, Democrats will foolishly continue to harp on the need for experience in a President. It reinforces voters #1 concern about Obama.
Add in the near hysteria of Democrats that it is a woman (Obama's support among women is the lowest for a Democrat nominee since 1956), it's understandable why Democrats are panic stricken about Palin. Hillary supporters.... we don't need all of you. Just a few % and it's McCain rolling to an easy win.
Don't forget those ever so sweet approval ratings ranging from 80-91%... the highest of any governor in the country... those who know her, love her.
Even more appealing..... her blue collar background, union blue collar husband, and the match up against Crusty Joe "Take the Commuter Train Because a Lobbyist is Using the Private Jet" Biden is a homerun for blue collar voters.
The image.... a mother of 5, blue collar background, going up against the crusty gaffe ridden 36 year Senator..... wonder who the AVERAGE AMERICAN VOTER will identify with the most??!!?!?!?
And don't forget that her nickname of Sarah Barracuda came because of her ferocious competitiveness..... Biden should wear a cup to the debate. He'll need it after leaves Crusty Joe on the mat.
August 29, 2008
2:01 PM
Bubba writes:
Great political move by McCain - a darling of the conservatives and a woman! Should pick up both votes from the right wing and the rare disgruntled Hillary voter who wants to criminalize abortion. Brilliant! Within four years, McCain/Palin will appoint Supremes to do the job that Bush failed to do.
Obama is supposed to be a great politician, but he merely picked a great statesman who is ready should anything (God forbid) happen to him. McCain now has picked a small town mayor and first term governor as his backup.
Seems that Obama made the better choice for governing, but not for pure politics. How ironic that it is Obama who puts "Country First" while McCain put "politics first."
August 29, 2008
2:06 PM
Anonymous writes:
WOW check out this brutally honest quote...
If she qualifies, can I sign up for the job, too?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk20IySDwhw
August 29, 2008
2:14 PM
John writes:
WOW check out this brutally honest quote...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk20IySDwhw
August 29, 2008
2:15 PM
history buff writes:
Mother of five young children? I see why McCain chose her. He will have someone on call to change his diaper whenever needed. :)
August 29, 2008
2:35 PM
Shaggy writes:
am 760 writes:
"The right for the past month has continually bashed obama about his supposed lack of experience."
Sara Palin has more experience than Obama, so what does that tell you about the messiah?
She is already the commander in chief of Alaska.
She has been a Mayor and a Governor.
80% approval rating.
What is it that Obama has done?
What is an organizer anyways.
August 29, 2008
2:40 PM
Shaggy writes:
am760 writes:
"She is the governor of a town of 5000 people, whooho"
Damn you are stupid, we don't have Governors of cities dweeb, we have Governors of States.
Yes she was the Mayor of a City of 9000 but she is Governor of the State of Alaska.
Got it now?
Go back to wiping butts and listening to your hate radio who spews lies, you are a perfect example because you are spreading their talking points.
August 29, 2008
2:42 PM
Shaggy writes:
She probably didn't attend a racist church for 20 years either and then lie about it.
She is going to utterly destroy Obama.
August 29, 2008
2:51 PM
Connie writes:
This woman has absolutely NO foreign policy experience whatsoever. She's had two years governing Alaska and has already managed to start abusing power. For someone who could potentially be one heartbeat away from the presidency this is the most incredibly stupid pick I've ever seen! There are far FAR more qualified, compelling Republican women out there!
As a former Clinton supporter I will not put my vote behind a Pro-Life, anti-equal pay for equal work, croney hugging, abuser of power.
McSame's lost his mind. OBAMA ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!
August 29, 2008
3:00 PM
Kevin J Jones writes:
Observer said : "Kids with Down's Syndrome? Looks like the apple didn't fall too far from THAT tree..."
No comment, jackass.
Palin's Down's syndrome child could backfire. We abort 80-90% of those diagnosed with Down's syndrome (though the test is pretty inaccurate). Her praiseworthy choice to bring her new son to term is an implicit rebuke to all those who despise the disabled so much they kill them in the womb in the name of "compassion."
McCain's choice of Palin is ripe bait for snobs. The condescension that will pour out upon rural voters "clinging to their guns" will provide rich fodder for populist-wannabe radio show hosts who decry "elitism." Do Democrats really want to argue explicitly that people from low-population states far from the East Coast have no shot at national prominence?
That said, it is right to be concerned that Palin has more experience managing vast swaths of land than at managing people. The Beltway pundits and politicos probably think they can eat her alive.
I'm awfully mad at McCain for making me almost want to vote for him because of this pick. My resolve to vote crackpot third party is already weakening.
August 29, 2008
3:01 PM
Shaggy writes:
Obama is old news now. Move over.
I don't even hear the press talking about his speech last night.
This is one cool lady who handled herself gracefully today. She didn't even have to have a speech pre-written for her or use a teleprompter.
I will bet she doesn't have to declare her patriotism and that she is proud of her Country either.
This is really going to upset Michelle and Barrack because Sara is going to take the spotlight away from them when it is all suppose to be about them and no one else.
AND TO ALL THE IDIOTS OUT THERE WHO DON"T KNOW HOW TO POST....HIT THE DAMN SUBMIT BUTTON ONCE AND THEN HIT THE REFRESH/RELOAD BUTTON AND QUIT MULTIPLE POSTING!!!!!!
August 29, 2008
3:35 PM
Ben-Former Democrat writes:
I bet Barack Hussein Obama's team is pretty much in upheaval at this point. They weren't astute enough to see this coming, but then again Democrats of late haven't been very smart either.
Hillary 08 sounds good all of a sudden don't it Democrats?
August 29, 2008
3:37 PM
prima facie writes:
While Barack Obama spent 40 minutes Thursday night telling Americans they aren't good enough, Sarah Palin painted just the opposite picture. Her remarks today, while occasionally platitudinous, were all about accomplishment.
In the eyes of the Democratic Party, you aren't smart enough to get an education on your own. You don't work hard enough to hold a job on your own. You can't prioritize your own needs or set your own budget. You aren't savvy enough, resourceful enough, competitive enough.
Contrast that with a woman who, albeit as second banana on the ticket, built a career on her own, who ran a successful business, who courageously gave birth to a disabled child while running an entire state, who lives and embodies the American dream of opportunity, not a guaranteed outcome.
On one side you get hope and a vision of Americans unable to live their own lives. On the other, you get confidence.
Pity the former can't offer you the latter.
August 29, 2008
3:44 PM
am 760 writes:
Thankyou repubs for handing us the election. So funny, you guys are against unions but the fact that her husband is union guy is great now. The GOP has become a complete joke as are its followers.
August 29, 2008
3:54 PM
Shaggy writes:
Obama will be walking on eggs if he questions her experience.
So am760, what town was it that you said she was Governor of?
This women is a beautiful breath of fresh air.
She alone has more experience than Obama.
August 29, 2008
4:07 PM
Hogar De Vuelta (العودة) People Eating Tasty Animals (PETA) writes:
Barb,
Is this the sort of responsible bahavior you are looking for in wildlife management?
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01232007/news/nationalnews/p_e_t_a__rival_howls_nationalnews_leonard_greene.htm
August 29, 2008
4:07 PM
Anonymous writes:
AM 670, I do believe the diaper fumes are getting to you.
August 29, 2008
4:18 PM
KW writes:
am760 - Her husband is an Eskimo, a commercial fisherman and also works on oil rigs. In Alaska, you pretty much either fish or drill oil... or in his case, both. Those are the two primary industries up there and he apparently isn't afraid of the hard work it takes to do either job.
But what does any of that have to do with Sarah Palin, her qualifications or her being chosen as the Rep VP?
August 29, 2008
4:19 PM
Shaggy writes:
This women goes out and shoots a moose for dinner than comes home and bakes cookies.
August 29, 2008
4:55 PM
sooperburd writes:
John and Anonymous:
Obviously your Youtube video was cut off at the end and thusly the quote is taken entirely out of context. Good try, though.
That source makes you look really bad. If I were you, I'd not use that ever again.
August 29, 2008
5:35 PM
Soldier7 writes:
Barb....Do you even know why those wolves are
hunted? Let me share some info with you. Certain
areas (like Alaska) tend to have troubles managing predator populations. If the polulation
of wolves becomes too great for the given area that they live in, then the animals have to be culled. If the animals are allowed to overpopulate, then disease can wipe out all of the animals in question.
Here is a newsflash for you Barb...Most Hunters care more about native animal populations that you tree huggers.
The point is that Governor Palin is a great choice
for VP.
Also, she probably shaves her legs and has less facial hair that I do....Two things most tree hugging females cannot claim.
August 29, 2008
5:43 PM
KW writes:
Someone brought up the accusation that Palin had used her position to leverage for her sister during a divorce from a state trooper. Just so we have the complete story I looked this up at Wall Street Journal:
"A flap blew up after she fired Alaska Department of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan on July 11. He said afterwards that Gov. Palin and her husband had pressured him to remove a state trooper who was a former brother-in-law she and her family had feuded with. Gov. Palin denies that, saying she removed the commissioner she appointed 18 months ago because she wants "a new direction," and offered him a job as liquor board director which he turned down."
"The case stemmed from a messy divorce between the trooper, Mike Wooten, and his wife, Molly, who is Gov. Palin's younger sister. In 2005, Gov. Palin alleged the trooper had threatened to harm her father and sister and that he had engaged in numerous instances of official misconduct, including using a Taser on his 10-year-old stepson and shooting a moose without a proper permit, according to state documents. In one instance, she told state investigators, she overheard him on the telephone threatening her sister: "I'm gonna f--- shoot your dad. He's gonna get a lead bullet."
"Mr. Wooten told investigators he tested a Taser on the boy at his request, thought he was within his rights to kill the moose and never threatened the Palins. An internal police investigation substantiated the moose and Tasering charges, but threw out most of the rest. He was ordered suspended for 10 days in 2006. He declined comment through a spokesman with the Public Safety Employees Association."
After reading what the in-law was accused of (and disciplined for) I can see why Palin has her 80% favorable rating in Alaska.
Anyway, make of this what you will, but at least we now know the Palin-Biden debate certainly ought to be fun. ;~)
August 29, 2008
6:18 PM
Barb writes:
No animal deserves to be killed in this barbaric manner -- chasing these incredibly magnificent animals to exhaustion in the snow and then shooting them, often missing, so they have to shoot over and over.
No animal.
Anyone who supports this kind of mistreatment of our wildlife is a very misguided person and does not belong in any elected office, lest the highest office of the land.
Sarah Palin has shown that she is nothing but a radical right winger, gun toting, lifetime NRA member. I wouldn't doubt if she's a man in disguise!
McCain or his advisors must be drunk or perhaps suffered dementia. Why would they think a right wing conservative woman who hunts, hates wolves, is a lifetime NRA member, and is anti-choice would get Hillary votes?
DREAM ON!
August 29, 2008
6:29 PM
Barb writes:
Soldier 7 -- it's too bad people who think like you can't be culled in much the same way.
Animals do not deserve to be chased to exhaustion then shot.
What about that don't you get?
On another note, you should not engage in discussions that are way over your head.
August 29, 2008
6:45 PM
Soldier7 writes:
Barb, I don't think you fully understand what happens to out of control wildlife populations.
Populations have to be managed or the animals will
starve to death or fall prey to desease.
Step out of your condo in Boulder long enough to
interact with nature and you will discover that Wildlife Management is key to the survival of wolves.
I like her, she is tough and has a Brain
August 29, 2008
7:05 PM
Alaska is our savior writes:
Wow what a great pick. Lets drill the hell out of alaska. Don't ever plan to visit that cold wasteland anyway.
Lets put build nuke plants there and store our wastes there.
Pubs made a great pick.
August 29, 2008
7:06 PM
janis houston writes:
What is going on???
This woman has a 4 month old baby with Downs Syndrome, and 4 other kids, and she has spare time to be Vice President...or President if McCain't has a heart-attack???
I am all for breaking the glass ceiling, but your family comes first...what a truly stupid decision.
August 29, 2008
7:15 PM
Anonymous writes:
Janis, why are you here blogging? Get in the kitchen and fix dinner for your family.
August 29, 2008
7:28 PM
Cmdr Janeway writes:
This is really funny! "Pick a woman because she is a woman" so say the republicans. "Pick a Black man because he is Black" so say the democrats. How about "vote" (as in participate in the process) "for" (not against) "change" (not status quo)?
August 29, 2008
7:39 PM
Cmdr Janeway writes:
On the subject of women and the republican presidential nominee, here is more fuel for your fire, courtesy of the Rocky Mountain News online edition...
Cindy McCain's half-sister backs Obama
Associated Press
Originally published 01:18 p.m., August 28, 2008
Updated 01:18 p.m., August 28, 2008
DENVER — Cindy McCain's half-sister says she will not vote for Republican John McCain and plans to cast her ballot for his Democratic rival, Barack Obama.
"I have a different political standpoint," Kathleen Hensley Portalski said in an interview with "Us Weekly," published online today. "I'm voting for Obama."
Portalski said Obama's proposals are "more positive and I'm not a big war believer."
Cindy McCain and Portalski have the same father, James Hensley.
He founded Hensley & Company, the Phoenix area Anheuser-Busch distributor. Cindy McCain is heiress to her father's stake in the company.
E-mails and a phone message left with John McCain's presidential campaign were not immediately returned.
Subscribe to the Rocky Mountain News
August 29, 2008
7:58 PM
Big_D writes:
Sarah Palin has an apparent issue with her abuse of power and after Bush I don’t think that will be too popular. I think McCain didn’t do a very good job of vetting his VP in desperation to try to get the Hillary vote. I don’t think anyone enjoys abuse of power.
August 29, 2008
8:16 PM
leftside writes:
sooperburd,
"What Republican crossover?"
The problem is that you don't recognize the difference between Republicans and Conservatives.
There will be Republicans crossover. Conservatives won't. They've been will trained to vote only for the candidate with the "R" next to the name.
I had once given the job of correcting my spelling and grammer to farmboy. He did a lousy job at it so I gave to clyde. He claimed the job didn't pay enough (he didn't do anything but wanted to be a paid for it) so it I got rid of him. The position is still open and you seem more than qualified so...if you want it you got it.
August 29, 2008
8:48 PM
jwbeuk writes:
What foreign policy experience does Barack Obama have? Oh yeah, I forgot he flew overseas. The panic from the Democratic Party over this announcement is funny. As for the investigation? Lets see, the individual this commissioner would not fire was a domestic abuser, was caught drinking on the job, threatened to kill at least one man... and the list goes on. Sounds like an issue the Dems want to bring to light. Course, maybe we can take a closer look at Barry's association with a known terrorist?
August 29, 2008
9:00 PM
Dan in Colorado writes:
Biden was selected because he is a fierce fighter. The Dems were hoping for a debate with the good ol boys, now its the beauty and the beast. This is gonna be good! Can you say pay per view.
August 29, 2008
9:00 PM
Shaggy writes:
Hey tiny-d,
Go back to the kiddy blogs...this is for big boys only.
KW,
What do you think bro?
I like her..she stands her ground and isn't intimidated.
If we want to get to specifics out of the four that are running, Obama is the #4 man. The least experienced and the one with the least credentials..That is a fact!!!
Alaska is our savior writes:
"Wow what a great pick. Lets drill the hell out of alaska. Don't ever plan to visit that cold wasteland anyway."
Do you know that ANWR is a tiny pin prick and caribou thrive near drilling rigs?
Another fricking uninformed brainwashed loon!!!!
August 29, 2008
9:18 PM
KW writes:
Spot on anon! Either women ARE capable of being part of our government AND raise a family, or they are merely relegated to the confines of being a mother and nothing else.
I thought you anti-Palin folks were all for equal rights. It's real simple to make your point as to whether you believe in equal rights or not. And thus far, the anti-Palin crowd has apparently exposed their desire for the barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen position to be their primary belief.
This woman has crossed party lines to bring accountability, taking on BOTH republican maleficence as well as democrats, bringing wasteful spending to reform just as McCain has advocated for many years.
She has shown strength in areas to bring reform that Obama is still dreaming about. She is leagues above Obama in executive experience and for some reason, that scares the hell out of all Obama messiah worshipers. Although this is understandable, as Obama's reactions (attack ads) will prove here shortly.
Although... not to anyone's surprise.
But I am happy you all choose to attack away at Palin, the Hillary supporters will notice this, especially if the MSM begins to attack her the same way they did Hillary (CNN & MSNBC already have).
The Hillary supporters main beef was lack of fair coverage, and if the media attacks Palin in the same way (which they will, they're scared as hell right now), then you can definitely count on flocks of women voters choosing to support this amazing P/VP ticket. This is even greater history in the making than O what's his name ever fantasised about.
So I say to all you belligerent folks (posters), bring on the colossal electoral shift you are creating. You folks are already doing for McCain what he could have never done without you.
McCain/Palin will savor the victory in 2008, and we thank you for this.
God bless!
August 29, 2008
9:24 PM
Lisa K. writes:
Shaggy is right,
Obama is the least experienced of the four.
I am a registered independent but I think I just made my mind up.
I was all for Hillary "breaking that glass ceiling" but now I want to shatter it.
August 29, 2008
9:24 PM
Independent. Woman. Biologist. writes:
Shaggy and Sooperburd and Soldier7:
First, regarding predator prey interaction: predator populations are regulated by prey populations. Period. If there are fewer elk/moose/deer, there will be fewer wolves/coyotes/mountain lions. When you remove predators, that's when you find diseased elk or deer and that's when you find distressed ecosystems. That’s how it works and all of your ill-informed bluster will not change that. And just for personal information – I’m an environmental biologist and since 1977 I have lived in one forest or another, often within a few miles of Wilderness Areas. I own a gun, several in fact. I used to hunt. I have never lived in Boulder, and never lived in a condo. Of my 54 years, I have spent 4 of them in an apartment, mostly while I was in school. And I am a long-married woman, I don’t hug trees, I have no facial hair to speak of and I do shave my legs. So much for your lame stereotypes.
Second, just in point of fact: aerial gunning of wolves is not wildlife management. It’s not hunting and it’s certainly not about gun rights. It’s government sponsored barbarity, canned hunts, real sportsmanlike, where some rich, fat, “hunter” hires an “outfitter” and a helicopter, pays an obscene amount of money for the thrill of sanctioned cruelty. I have read that some of them say that forcing an animal to drop in exhaustion and then shooting it as it lies in the snow as the best thing since sex, which really makes me wonder how they get their sex – I’m guessing through other obscene amounts of money.
Third, wildlife biologists recognize that ecosystems are vastly improved when predators keep prey populations in check. For what it’s worth, it doesn’t work quite the same way with human hunting as with a canid predator hunting, for a variety of reasons, and biologically not as much benefit accrues to the ecosystem.
I have a proposal. If you think aerial gunning by numbnutz who are too hammered to even be able to shoot straight is so wonderful, perhaps you’d volunteer to be hunted to exhaustion from a helicopter, just to show the rest of us just how fair and wonderful it really is.
So, all in all, I think that any individual who can promote barbarity of any sort, whether against humans or animals, really is not fit to hold public office. I am not even willing to go along with the assessment of her as a “nice” person. I certainly would not want to have dinner with her. She would nauseate me.
I have lots of other reasons not to vote for McCain, but adding her to his ticket absolutely clinched it for me.
August 29, 2008
9:39 PM
janis houston writes:
Has McCain't lost his few marbles left?
A heartbeat away from the Presidency is a woman with a 4 MONTH old child with Down's Syndrome, and 4 other children, and NOT a single testing on dealing with foreign issues?
What a laughingstock!!! and I'm a woman who think any mother would say, SORRY, my family deserves my attention first.
August 29, 2008
9:47 PM
den2mke writes:
I was hoping for Condi Rice. Could have gotten the conservative, women and minority vote in one fell swoop.
Not to mention she's the smartest person Bush has ever had in his cabinet and maybe the only woman alive that has proven experience in doing many of the functions of the presidency.
McCain must have thought she'd show him up...
August 29, 2008
9:49 PM
KW writes:
Just to piss Barb off about wildlife...
(I love dove hunting, can't wait for quail season to open on 10/3).
Screw the sprawl, hunt the damn birds!
PS - If the excessive rains we've had this year in the desert are part of gorebal warming, then by golly, bring it on.
August 29, 2008
9:49 PM
leftside writes:
Lisa K.
I don't believe you were ever a Hillary supporter.
You may not even be a woman. Conservative deceitful tactics you understand, as taught to them by their leader Rush Limbaugh.
However, if you are who you claim to be and think shaggy is right, then you are definitely lacking in intelligence. So please, crossover and join the ranks of the unintelligent. They'll be the ones with the blank stares on their faces, comes with being brainwashed.
August 29, 2008
9:59 PM
Independent. Woman. Biologist. writes:
Shaggy,
Again, in point of fact, caribou do NOT thrive near oil rigs and pipelines. Additionally, this isn't just about caribou.
But I digress.
What I want to know from any of you McCainiacs out there is: How are you better off now than 8 years ago?
Me, I'm holding 2 jobs, and my income has decreased in both real and adjusted dollars. I can't switch insurance companies because I have arthritis, and my premiums have climbed now to a point where I can no longer afford them - and I never even actually go to the doctor.
I have done the research on drilling and every organization, government and otherwise, who is not an oil company says that even if we drilled everywhere that oil companies currently own - outright - and have rights to drill NOW (hundreds of millions of acres) and everywhere they say they want to drill, that it would only bring down the price by a few cents per gallon. And that's only if they refined it in America and sold it directly on the US market only and that's not what they do. They refine it in Saudi Arabia, and then sell on the world market, to the highest bidder.
Since June, because of the high price of gas, Americans drove some 40+ billion fewer miles - and wonder of wonders, the price of gas came down. So WE have a reliable way to control the price, it just means that WE have to be the ones to do it. I certainly prefer to be in control of my fate than to meekly hand it over to an oil company. I mean, who wouldn't? And isn't that what Republicans want - for us to control our destinies ourselves? That used to be what they wanted.
And remember those ballyhooed tax cuts? I noticed no drop in what I had to pay in taxes.
The number of abortions have gone up.
We are despised everywhere in the world, which does nothing to benefit our national security.
Our roads are falling apart and next time you drive I-25, look up at the bridges, and pray.
We are spending billions of dollars a month in a country that’s now reporting a surplus and we are diving deeper and deeper into debt with a country, China, that decidedly does not have our best interests at heart.
We have broken our military and stretched it so thin that if they were called to actually do something outside of Iraq and Afghanistan, there would not be enough troop strength to actually do anything – which frankly scares the dickens out of me.
So why exactly do we expect another Republican, who thought enough of Bush’s ideas to vote with him 90% of the time, to do anything different? He and his friends aren’t hurting and don’t even know someone who is. That’s not who they run with.
And Sarah Palin is just more of the McSame.
August 29, 2008
10:04 PM
KW writes:
That's so like you leftside. If someone disagrees with your ideology, you immediately call them a liar. Is that all you have to offer?
How about bringing some relevant commentary to this site once in awhile???
You are surely losing it my friend. Relax, get a grip and get it together man. Maybe some CCR tunes will do the trick.
August 29, 2008
10:16 PM
KW writes:
In case you were not aware Caribou and other heards threatened by wolf
Be sure and tell Barb to pay attention as well.
Wildlife is flurishing due to the warmth brought about by the Alaskan pipeline. This is a fact!
August 29, 2008
10:43 PM
KW writes:
If that's not enough to douse your illogical beliefs about wildlife mgmt in Alaska, here's a tad more reading you may want to acquaint yourself with...
http://www.wolfsongnews.org/news/Alaska_current_events_1665.html
It's hard to understand your cry in the wilderness about the death of a wolf when they are the ones killing the other species.
Inhumanely at that.
Have you ever seen a wolf kill something? They attack from the rear to immobilize the creature by severing tendons in the legs, then they go for the throat. It's most often a very slow death, usually the animal is still alive while they're being eaten and feel every inch of the excruciating pain.
The whole process is rather grotesque and by far more disgusting than the sane removal being carried out by wildlife biologists who are much more savvy (and degree'd) in this area than any of us will ever be.
While I appreciate your compassion for a specific species of animal, I'd rather be shot than go through death by a wolf.
August 29, 2008
11:46 PM
Just a thought writes:
Now that the Messiah has spoken, I would just like to pose the question "How are we going to end our dependence on foreign oil in ten years, when the democrats and environmentalists are against drilling in the U.S." By the way with all the guarantees he made I can't wait to stop paying for insurance and get the same standard of care that Congress gets. My 450 dollars a month can go to much better uses now.
August 29, 2008
11:48 PM
Just a thought writes:
Now that the Messiah has spoken, I would just like to pose the question "How are we going to end our dependence on foreign oil in ten years, when the democrats and environmentalists are against drilling in the U.S." By the way with all the guarantees he made I can't wait to stop paying for insurance and get the same standard of care that Congress gets. My 450 dollars a month can go to much better uses now.
August 30, 2008
4:52 AM
Tom writes:
I like Sarah
She will stand against republican corruption and wrong doing.
Wonder what she does when she finds out McCain was instrumental in promoting the case for war?
August 30, 2008
7:05 AM
leftside writes:
That's just like you kw. Unable to totally comprehend what a poster has written. Go ahead now and take out of context the part about me not believing Lisa K. is a woman or the part were I don't believe that she was ever a Hillary supporter and leave out the explanation of why I doubt her sincerity:
"Conservative deceitful tactics you understand, as taught to them by their leader Rush Limbaugh."
Or, the crux of my post:
"However, if you are who you claim to be and think shaggy is right, then you are definitely lacking in intelligence. So please, crossover and join the ranks of the unintelligent. They'll be the ones with the blank stares on their faces, comes with being brainwashed."
You know better than to play this game with me kw. As I've said before, "you never learn."
August 30, 2008
8:04 AM
Independent. Woman. Biologist. writes:
KW
When you quote something or someone to prove your point you might want to select a reading that isn't a local response to a letter to the editor by an individual who is just as ignorant as you are.
And yes, I know how a wolf kills its prey - just how the wolf was designed to kill its prey. It's gory and it's the way nature intended it so the wolf can eat and the prey population remains healthy. And that bloody relationship also maintains healthy ecosystems, preventing over-grazing/browsing.
I will also note that state wildlife biologists are hired because they agree with their employer. The position is as much political as scientific. We have certainly seen the tendency for Republican government to squash the scientific findings of anyone who disagrees with their ideologically inspired policy. Kinda like the tobacco companies doing studies that "show" that tobacco products are safe, and John McCain supports their legislative goals. And sugar doesn't rot your teeth. And PCBs don't cause cancer, and John McCain has voted against environmental regulation of the chemical industry.
And really the wolf is just a limited, but visible, symbol of a much larger problem that can't be reduced to a few paragraphs in a blog comment. The fact that we are seeing the extinction of species at a rate not seen for millions of years is cause for grave concern, because it is symptomatic of changes that do not bode well for the continued biological viability of humankind's continued existence and some scientists are no longer speaking of millenia, but maybe only dozens of years. I believe that the spiritual connection that many people feel to other life-forms on earth is a recognition of that interdependence.
And I also am very clear that you wouldn't know a spiritual connection to anything if it came up and sank its fangs in your a**. Nor would you care. So you go on watching Faux News and keep letting them tell you that science isn't important. Keep on believing that the Constitution and the Bible guarantee you the right to continue to drive your SUV and continue to pay one of the lowest prices in the world for gasoline. Really, ignorance is bliss.
August 30, 2008
8:09 AM
KW writes:
I was going with your headline leftside.
And your very next sentence...
You very clearly and unarguably called Lisa a liar, regardless of what you words you followed with. It's just who you are.
You can change, but will be entirely up to you (and your mental health insurance company).
August 30, 2008
8:33 AM
doubled writes:
She has the least amount of skeletons?
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/election2008/story/51123.html
She wants to teach creationism as along side science? When you try to apply the scientific method to faith, you have then lost your faith. Do people really need a scientific seal of approval to validate their faith? If so, then it's lack of faith IMO.
Nonetheless, religious studies are important but not as science.
Oh yea, the whole experience argument is nullified.
August 30, 2008
8:42 AM
Independent. Woman. Biologist writes:
Still NO ONE has said if or how their lives are better (or worse) than they were 8 years ago.
Anyone want to enlighten me as to what I'm missing?
August 30, 2008
8:58 AM
Doubled writes:
I.W.B., it's all speculation but I would not bet on the past 8 years' track record. I believe I would hold Obama accountable for the 150 billion over the next ten years whereas Bush's 45 million was a joke for renewable energy sources. Remember 2004 NREL campaign stumps (your fired, oh wait, hire them back)? No way can we become energy independent in 10 years but I believe seriously moving towards alternative and renewable energy would be better for my children and grandchildren.
I found out I paid more taxes out in 06 from my
August 30, 2008
1:29 PM
JW writes:
"She wants to teach creationism as along side science?"
Excellent. That and 2 or 3 "constructionist" judges on the court and she will be able to. 5-10 years later we will formally change the name of this country from "The United States of America" to "Jesusland". Incarceration indefinitely, torture, religious discrimination, just as many dead babies from abortion but thankfully their mother's will now take the dirt nap as well because of unsafe practices....It will be Heaven On Earth.
At least for Hogar.
Ill be living in England, making pounds, and laughing as the North East and Pacific states secede from the nation, taking over 1/2 of GDP, and leaving the rest of you with what you deserve.
August 30, 2008
2:09 PM
DR writes:
IndWobio -
Sure, I'll jump in here and answer your query, but be aware that I've not read this thread, just a post here and there and mainly here at the end.
For myself and my family, we are worse off than eight years ago, although we aren't in what anyone would call bad shape. Let me offer some specifics:
1 - 401K at work has lost nearly 30% in value, and it could have been worse.
2 - Roth IRA has lost almost 39%.
3 - Property value on residence has fallen at least 18% despite being forested horse property which is usually shielded from such large drops.
4 - Mountain property value (no house) has dropped almost 40%.
5 - Food bill for a family of seven has increased from roughly $450 per month to closer to $750, and we have removed the more expensive items (steaks, salmon, etc) from the shopping list.
6 - Gasoline and diesel bill has increased nearly 145%.
7 - Disposable income has decreased to the point where no money goes into savings accounts now, and there is generally a transfer from savings to checking account to pay reasonable bills.
8 - Electrical / gas bills have nearly tripled.
9 - etc.
Overall, I'm about as impressed with GW Bush and his policies as I am with my cats ability to vacuum the house and make dinner.
JW - I'm thinking Ireland or Argentina.
August 30, 2008
3:20 PM
TheChoicesWeMake writes:
Sorry for your losses DR,
BUT maybe your 401k and IRA should have been weighted a little more in precious metals, commodities, developing countries and oil services. And if your real estate investments are down, maybe you should have sold before the froth in the market fizzled. And even if your home's value is down 18%, as long as you didn't overextend yourself when you purchased it, didn't purchase an exotic mortgage and you plan to live in it for a while, you needn't worry about short term fluctuations caused by the credit squeeze.
It sounds like you're blaming the Bush Administration for your own poor decisions.
Typical spoiled American.
August 30, 2008
4:53 PM
Sandy writes:
The choice of Palin helps underscore the upside down nature of the Obama/Biden ticket. If Obama had any executive experience like Palin does, there would not be that problem.
I have read many threads on left leaning websites that lament the fact that many people's first impression is that Biden would be better heading the ticket now that the dust has settled. Combine that with millions of disaffected women who supported Clinton and want to vote for a woman, and you have the recipe for disaster.
It won't be possible to blame this one on Bush like the Democratic mayor and governor down in Louisiana did for Katrina.
August 30, 2008
5:35 PM
Shaggy, Bioligist, Specialist on Caribou near Oil Fields writes:
"Caribou thrive near Alaska’s largest oil fields
When the Alaska Department of Fish and Game last took a count in July 2002, the Central Arctic caribou herd was thriving. The results of an aerial photo census pegged the herd population at 31,857 animals, up from 27,128 animals in 2000, an increase of 4,729 animals or 17 percent."
http://www.petroleumnews.com/pntruncate/717185954.shtml
I might add they also huddle around the pipe line when it gets really cold.
August 30, 2008
6:08 PM
DR writes:
Choices -
My 401K, like many that are employer sponsored plans contains a certain number of choices where one can put their money. Precious metals and oil stocks, per se, aren't among them, or rest assured a good chunk of change would have been there. I have invested separately in 100 ounce Englehard silver bars, and one ounce gold Eagles on the side to cover this area, although as I'm sure you know even metals have been damaged in the past two weeks or so.
Regarding the real estate, both my house and my mountain land are paid for. Selling either or both wasn't necessary. I was simply listing the drop in values that almost all Americans have experienced, not just "spoiled" ones, and I haven't suffered for any poor decisions. How odd of you to make such assumptions. I also didn't assign any blame to anyone, but even world-class economists and well-known Finance and Economic professors lay the responsibility for the current situation at the feet of the White House and Congress.
For your further information, I have been a faithful Republican since 1972 when I became eligible to vote. Nothing would have made me happier than for the eight years of Bush's presidency to have been considered a smashing success, and for him not to be listed number 1 on the list of the worst presidents of the US of all time. Tell me, do you think he has done a good job, and if so, in what areas and why?
August 30, 2008
6:11 PM
leftside writes:
Right kw, "cherry picking" and taken sentences out of context. Like I've said before thats all you can do and that's all you do.
As far as calling Lisa K. a liar I stated in my post quite clearly that if she is a Rush Limbaugh hack then she's a liar. If she is for real then be my guest and vote for the guy who backed Bush over 90% of the time and his side show VP.
TheChoicesWeMake:
...and all your doing is making excuses for the poor administration that caused DR and other Americans this problem. Typical hypocrisy, I don't know you but the conservatives on this blog would be more than willing to blame it on the Democrats had they been in charge for the past 8 years.
August 30, 2008
6:19 PM
DR writes:
By the way Choices, the "losses" on stocks are only actual losses if the stocks are sold, and they haven't been, so it is quite possible those paper losses will be retrievable when economic realities improve. The same goes for home and land values.
August 30, 2008
6:44 PM
Anonymous writes:
you know Sandy, you're first two paragraphs were fine, and then you went and pee'd in the pool with your dumb comment about katrina ..... nobody is blaming bush for the hurricane, they're blaming him for not kicking someone in the ass and getting them moving to help people ..... he sure spared no hustle in getting help for the 911 victims and rescuers .... why the FIVE DAY LAG to get even water to the people in the superdome??? .... maybe if they'd been white folks, huh? .... yep, the mayor and governor made mistakes, but the feds are able to push things regardless of what actions the states take, so all most people out here were really asking for was for the feds to treat the people in Louisiana and and Mississippi with the same sense of urgency and respect and they totally screwed the freaking pooch on it ..... stop defending a brain-damaged simpleton for sitting on his hands while Americans suffered needlessly
August 30, 2008
7:03 PM
The truth hurts writes:
It's simple. They said get out of New Orleans. People did not. Nagin let down his "chocolate city". They had school buses in 6 feet of water just sitting in the damn lots in NO that could have been used for evacuation well before Katrina hit. Nagin boogied out of town leaving his city. Yet the people of NO go and vote this "chocolate" politician back into office and start blaming whitey. Screw them.
August 30, 2008
7:23 PM
Anonymous writes:
and you know that the people who were stuck in the superdome voted to put nagin back in office, huh? ... maybe they were some of the 'no' votes? ... could it be? ..... so, what? ... screw them anyway? ... what about the hundreds that were left trapped in hospitals and old-folks homes? .... screw them too? ..... is it safe to assume that none of them were anyone you know? ..... some of you people are just so freaking ignorant and heartless, and always seem to assume the worst about everyone and that you supposedly know what their motives were .... just unbelievable ... I can hardly wait until you find yourself in some deep crap and are waiting for help .... maybe you'll understand then ... but even if your assumptions were true ... our president did nothing to help american citizens and he could have .... that should be chilling to you and everyone else ... but naw, I guess if you voted for him, whatever he wants to do is just fine ... how can anyone question his actions or lack thereof? ...... only politicians from the other party ever do anything wrong ... right?
August 30, 2008
7:59 PM
The truth hurts writes:
Hey, anon, you thought you could use Katrina for take make a political point. I just pointed out some inconvenient fact for you. Nagin and Blanco are the most negligent in regards to Katrina. THEY are the ones who dropped the ball from the outset. THEY didn't do their homework for their city, state and region. That's what ultimatly cost people's lives in hospitals and old folks homes.
August 30, 2008
8:36 PM
Anonymous writes:
truth .... you are willing to pardon the president for his lack of action, and i am not ..... and i voted for him in 2000 because i thought he would serve the nation well .... and now i know better .... but you are right when you say the NO mayor, and the governor of LA dropped the ball .... they did ... there is no argument that they deserve a good portion of the blame ... but answer me this ... when there was a humanitarian crisis in Africa recently, how is it we had assistance there in three days, yet not in NO for five days? .... when the earthquake hit china, how did we have humanitarian aid there in two days, but not mississippi in six days? .... the president is the leader of america ... when he finally did land in NO he used it for a photo op ... he offered no apologies for late federal action .... and that action involving the national guard and active military troops is what he eventually ordered in anyway once he understood that he was going to bear the brunt of criticism for the delay in assistance .... sorry man, but this guy is just about the sorriest excuse for someone protecting the people and their rights that this nation has ever seen ... i really can't think of anyone any worse
August 30, 2008
9:31 PM
KW writes:
Can you please provide a link to McCain's plan where he's stated he wants to make America "Jesusland?"
JW - You keep making these predictions up as you go. If I were to say Obama will ruin this country irrepairably with his high falutin' tax and spend policies, and that we'll be bankrupt before his 2nd year, would you accept that as a rational, fact based commentary?
Didn't think so.
My life is better merely for the fact that I'm paying far less in income taxes than I did before Bush created the middle class tax cuts.
I was laid off from the mortgage industry last fall, but in spite of that, I'm pursuing a new degree in the IT field and start a another (3rd in a row) contract job this Tuesday, making way more than I was in the mortgage industry. After only ONE semester in community college training!!!
All this is WITHOUT unemployment benny's or free government help (I make more working than unemployment pays). Student loans are my only crutch, and even those I HAVE to pay back so I've taken nor expected ANY FREEBIES.
Our economy is extremely sound, you just have to quit with the whining for free handouts..
The economy grew last quarter by 3.3%, which is huge, and we've never entered this supposed "recession" the dems and networks keep claiming we're "in." But to give the dems credit, they have accurately predicted 2 of their last 7 predictions of a "looming recession."
They do get it right once in awhile... I just wish they would get it right more often.
August 30, 2008
10:36 PM
Facts Are Still Facts writes:
Anon can't admit that the abject failure of local authorities is the proximate cause of the mayhem, suffering, and death in New Orleans.
Anon takes the ridiculous position that distant federal forces failed the people who were doomed by the decisions that their elected officials made on their behalf.
Anon seeks to make a moral equivalence argument about the 911 tragedy, a completely different set of circumstances and not comparable to Katrina.
Anon, after sensing the crippled logic of his poorly assembled argument, plays the race card.
Anon is an idiot.
NEXT.
August 30, 2008
11:14 PM
leftside writes:
So kw I see your adding "twisting" your deceitful gifts.
"Can you please provide a link to McCain's plan where he's stated he wants to make America "Jesusland?"
Instead of having jw provide a link showing McCain wants to turn the U.S. into Jesusland why don't you show where jw said that. I see were he fears that additional constructionist judges may do that and that "she", which I'm assuming he means his sideshow VP pick concerns him but I don't see where he's accusing McCain of anything.
Actually what his concerns are, and they are quite valid, is that if we continue to elect Republicans then they will control the Supreme court and anything can happen at that point. Just in case you missed it...but I don't think you did.
I also see where your a very busy man these days. Congratulation. You also like to hunt doves(???). I thought as much time as you spend in here that you were probably a conservative plant. Time management must be another of your skills. Again congratulations.
August 31, 2008
6:39 AM
Anonymous writes:
We need all (but maybe 2 leftists)Conservatives on the Supreme Court. Liberal justices kill the Constitution and rights of "we the people". That 4 leftist justices voted to disregard the 2nd amnedment in regards to DC's gun ban is very, very, disturbing.
August 31, 2008
8:59 AM
Pat writes:
Genius - in that it picks up the deep commitment Americans have to not be slotted as economic determinists where gender, race, age, or class defines limits of opportunity in America.
The surprise also shows that McCain lies within that progressive class, not the old school class to which America has been exposed for the last 8 years.
August 31, 2008
9:24 AM
Be Safe Nawlins writes:
It is so sad that it took Katrina to teach Mayor Nagin a lesson on how to do his job in the most vulnerable city in America to strong hurricanes.
That old chocolate logic from last year didn't cut it.
Now there is a chocolate governor who knows how to lead and is caling the shots so another NO tragedy will not befall the city that votes only with race in mind.
August 31, 2008
11:06 AM
LC VD writes:
I feel very offended and rather stunned by the comments regarding Sen. John McCain's choice for VP, Gov. Sarah Palin. Some have stated that they, "think it is an insult to women that the McCain Campain would think that simply because he picked a woman as his running mate that women would suddenly vote for him." In one sentence they have attempted to reduce a very accomplished politician, a mother of five, an activist, a hunter, etc., to a one-liner. So are they saying that because she is a 'woman' she is unqualified? Bravo on the sexism. And to think that one is qualified to speak for all women is laughable. To think that you can lump all women together, and that we all vote the same way is absurd. Do you really think that we are all anti-war, pro-abortion? Some of us "women" have been waiting for this day for a LONG time - finally an anti-abortion WOMAN who ROCKS that we can vote for instead of women women like Hillary Clinton. Do you really think McCain is that stupid in thinking that any woman would do? Do you really think he didn't weigh Gov. Palin's qualifications and didn't choose her for her noted track record of ethics reform, etc.? The fact that she has managed to balance her career with her home life is nothing short of stupendous. The fact that she loves her Down's Syndrome child rather than take the easy way out is how it should be. She has accomplished more in her young lifetime than half of us can ever aspire to. None of us have the right to put her down, or negate her accomplishments - and shame on you for your arrogance. They say that we women don't stick together, and that older women are quick to keep the younger women down. Good job. This isn't a game, it isn't a joke, it isn't a one liner. And if you were really for change, and really for reform, you would see what a great thing it is that McCain did. Who cares that he's not a Democrat. You think your party has "reform" all wrapped up nice and neat? And so what if McCain should pass during his term. “Qualified” is a subjective term, and shouldn't be based merely on the number of years one has spent holding office. There are plenty of fat, white old men in the Congress and the Senate who have been fixtures there for YEARS who are completely unqualified to be a VP, P, not to mention hold their own office. I would hope you could get past your party affiliations and be happy for one of your fellow women, Gov. Sarah Palin, and the progress she represents.
August 31, 2008
11:07 AM
Seabear writes:
I have enjoyed reading the banter about Sarah Palin.
I can only conclude that democrats, and their males in particular, based on the comments from the male gender, in general, believe that the only real woman is one who behaves like she has balls rather than ovaries.
Sarah Palin IS A REAL WOMAN who has proven that you can be a wife, a mother, a civic leader, and present the finest example of true womanhood.
As for her so called scandalous firing of the AK Safety manager over her ex state trooper brother in law: She gave this oxymoron a year to do what he should have done when the ex brother in law was caught drinking beer in his cruiser, hunting without a license, using a taser weapon on his step son, and threatening the life of Palin's father for assisting her sister in finding a good lawyer to help gain custody of their children.
No scandal here for me. Extraordinary patience, perhaps to a fault.
It is the Obamasiah who has no clue about what is to be a real citizen in the real US where real men and women focus on God first, family second, career thirdly. Strong families founded on God's law will evoke the changes the self-appointed return of JFK has promised but cannot deliver because he is merely a man.
As for experience, Obamasiah has 3 years and 8 months in the US Senate during which time he has been absent on many key votes. He has spent fully two years of his Senate experience running for President. How does this prepare you to stare down Putin et al.
Show me a successful mother, and I will show you a human being who take on any challenge and stare it down.
August 31, 2008
11:29 AM
Tom writes:
I like Sarah Palin much better than John McCain
She is better and more honest than McCain
I would vote for her but not McCain
She would stand up to corruption and that corruption is McCain/Bush/Cheney who orchestrated a major war based on false intelligence.
Sarah Palin was chosen to shake up Washington.
The problem is its the GOP and McCain
August 31, 2008
11:39 AM
Anonymous writes:
When all you have is a weak offense and no defense, your game will fail.
That is the case with the Democrats whose ticket is upside down with no experience at the top - very weak motivation for voters. Their defense is to try to get the sheeple to think that Bush is running again, which he can't. That is no defense.
You can't put lipstick on a pig and try to pass it off as anything but a pig. Likewise, you can't pretend to have an president who is ready to lead without any applicable experience.
Once again the dems put out a losing plan.
August 31, 2008
11:40 AM
Smelling the Coffee writes:
When all you have is a weak offense and no defense, your game will fail.
That is the case with the Democrats whose ticket is upside down with no experience at the top - very weak motivation for voters. Their defense is to try to get the sheeple to think that Bush is running again, which he can't. That is no defense.
You can't put lipstick on a pig and try to pass it off as anything but a pig. Likewise, you can't pretend to have an president who is ready to lead without any applicable experience.
Once again the dems put out a losing plan.
August 31, 2008
11:48 AM
Gloria Poole writes:
Reply to "KW": Hillary is hating it and clinching her teeth I am sure. She is not a stateswoman.
Reply to "Dennis": Sarah Palin has much name recognition amongst those who don't kill preborn humans for a living, and among Oil Companies on several continents, and among those opposing 'pork" projects from Congress to buy votes for incumbents.
Reply to "TIm": Sarah Palin believes in women's rights like the right to give birth to living children, the right to own and carry a gun, the right to run for and win and run State Office, like Governor, the right to hunt, the right to fish, the right to raise and teach her children her values, the right to attend Church, the right to believe in GOD, the right to stand on a podium in America as the Vice President.
Reply to "History Buff": Sarah Palin bucked the Republican Party in Alaska because it had become corrupt and Murkowski there was on the take. Get the facts.
Reply to "Barb": Alaska citizens cannot eat wolves but they do eat elk, deer. Shooting the wolves to have food makes sense to me. It is what sane and normal people would do, and you know what if a snarling wolf invaded your house, I would bet you would shoot it too.
signed gloriapoole, RN and artist,Denver CO 80203
August 31, 2008
11:54 AM
Gloria Poole writes:
Reply to "KW": Hillary is hating it and clinching her teeth I am sure. She is not a stateswoman.
Reply to "Dennis": Sarah Palin has much name recognition amongst those who don't kill preborn humans for a living, and among Oil Companies on several continents, and among those opposing 'pork" projects from Congress to buy votes for incumbents.
Reply to "TIm": Sarah Palin believes in women's rights like the right to give birth to living children, the right to own and carry a gun, the right to run for and win and run State Office, like Governor, the right to hunt, the right to fish, the right to raise and teach her children her values, the right to attend Church, the right to believe in GOD, the right to stand on a podium in America as the Vice President.
Reply to "History Buff": Sarah Palin bucked the Republican Party in Alaska because it had become corrupt and Murkowski there was on the take. Get the facts.
Reply to "Barb": Alaska citizens cannot eat wolves but they do eat elk, deer. Shooting the wolves to have food makes sense to me. It is what sane and normal people would do, and you know what if a snarling wolf invaded your house, I would bet you would shoot it too.
signed gloriapoole, RN and artist,Denver CO 80203
August 31, 2008
2:46 PM
Dems are Losers Still writes:
Coffee Smeller
Buyers remorse predicts that democretins are very upset with the way things are going. Obama pulled hard on the reigns when his campaign put out an add teasing Palin for her relative lack of experience because he knows he has less. The McBush talking points are losing their luster as more and more voters see the democretin platform shit rightward, adopting many repub high profile topics like energy and the war against terror.
It will be hard to argue that Iraq was a wrong war but Afghanistan is a good war. But the democretins are doing just that.
Putting a woman on the ticket was an excellent move by McCain because of the poll-proven democretin turncoats who are going to vote for McCain in november.
It all paints a very bleak picture that rockstar tricks will no longer overshadow.
Too bad (not).
August 31, 2008
3:05 PM
teacherindc writes:
Palin economic, energy, education and health leader
Alaska now has a rating of (Palin ranks Standard & Poor’s AA+, $5.2 billion in reserve of $17.2 billion tax revenues under Palin's leadership.
She supports all of her schools, mentoring students and applauding their success - check them out they are several points higher than the natl average and only a few points off in two.
Palin serves as The Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission chairman.
Health care leader Governor Sarah Palin welcomes the visit of the People's Republic of China Minister of Health Qiang Gao to observe the delivery of rural health care in Alaska acquaint China’s top ranking health official with Alaska models for rural health care delivery, both on site and through the use of telemedicine.
Palin is chair of the National Governors Association (NGA) Natural Resources Committee
Governors Palin leads and presses congress to fully fund the Energy Policy Act of 2005 and the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007.
She has a record, not so Obama
August 31, 2008
4:54 PM
Anonymous writes:
Facts is too stupid to argue with, being wrong on EVERY SINGLE POINT he/she tried to make about my post..... no worries Facts .... when you're an imbecile, as you show yourself to be, upgrading to idiot is at least possible .... just don't waste any more of my time while you're doing it
August 31, 2008
9:13 PM
Facts Are Still Facts writes:
Thanks for chiming in coward. Race baiters like yourself have no place in current discourse. Crawl back under the refuse pile you came from loser.
To politicize the suffering of thousands because you hate Bush is par for the course in your world. Had the truly responsible people (the mayor, his police force that abandoned the city, and the governor and her state resources) done even the most basic of their duties, none of this would have happened and you would have one less idiotic gripe stenciled on your crying towel.
September 1, 2008
6:26 AM
tiero writes:
Outstanding choice. When she heads the senate, certain senators mysterious past will be uncovered. He should be worried.
September 1, 2008
6:29 AM
tiero writes:
Outstanding choice. When she heads the senate, certain senators mysterious past will be uncovered. He should be worried.
September 1, 2008
6:57 AM
janis houston writes:
Palin is an absolute joke. For a pro-lifer with a 4 month old baby with Downs Syndrome, who she's not going to raise if she's running the country, she can talk the talk but not walk the walk. Oh, I forget, pro-lifers can hire Nanny's to raise their children...including the other two she has.
That's a fine example of a mother. A hockey mom a heartbeat away from being President...boy and we think Shrub is out of step on foreign policy, she doesn't even have a clue.
Ay yi yi!
September 1, 2008
9:31 AM
Dan writes:
Doesn't this sum up her experience?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Dwzk3g-lB0
she doesn't even know what job she's applying for.
September 1, 2008
11:02 AM
Marie. writes:
Ah yes, jay feigning outrage and posing as a woman to denounce Palin.
He gives himself away suggesting that a four year term in office somehow prevents her from raising her children. No woman would take such a ridiculous stance against another woman.
Sorry jay. Your misogyny bubbles forth again.
What a loser.
September 1, 2008
11:04 AM
Yes we can writes:
Actually this choice is a change in Direction for McCain
McCain is now for Change in washington.
John says its now time to reform washington and time to stand up to the special interests.
September 1, 2008
11:20 AM
dan writes:
How does sucking up to the religious right equal change?
September 1, 2008
11:58 AM
jay writes:
sorry to burst the bubbles of all the paranoid schizophrenics out there...but i've been out of town for several days.
i haven't really caught up on the news yet, but did i hear right that mcsame pick a person whose most tenured experience is being the beauty queen mayor of an alaskan town half the size of windsor?
September 1, 2008
12:06 PM
yes we can writes:
Good point Dan
very good point. But thats what this pick is supposed to be about. "washington is broken"
and John is the maverick whos supposed to fix it.
Sarah is a maverick too who stands up to big oil
and special interests.
(lol)
I suppose Bush wants to change too.
September 1, 2008
12:07 PM
Anonymous writes:
Wow. The coincidences continue to abound!
Jay is out of town and within less than an hour chimes in to deny his alias sniping AGAIN.
The pattern is old and identical.
Reasonable people can see past the magical reappearance ostensibly for the first time today when in reality good ol jayhole has been continualy on this blog as aliases all along.
Good show loser.
September 1, 2008
12:18 PM
Tom from Highlands Ranch writes:
Anony
Jayhole is a chronic liar and is well known around these parts.
I want to respond to Facts who took a chunk out of jayhole earlier when he was aliasing. Facts correctly points out the this time there will be no loss of life in New Orleans because the idiot mayor actually did his job. Kudos to the new governor who had to push nimrod nagin to protect his constituents. Any further attempts to politicize Katrina as a failure of Bush are invalidated by the proof that had the mayor taken the same steps last time, there would have never been the disaster called Katrina - a sad chapter in history that resulted from the incompetence of nagin and the former democratic governor.
Those are the facts and thanks to Facts for exposing jayhole once again.
September 1, 2008
12:23 PM
welcome back kotter writes:
welcome back jay. I'm just reading some nonsense for the first time in 3 days. you know the drill, he didn't pick her. he's met her once in his entire life. his campaign is run by lobbyist- charley black and big oil - picked her. she's for anything they tell her. righties wanted to skip over the entire ivy league educational system, you know, who cares about education anymore and prop up ms. small town. far as i know she graduated from ak hair and nail academy and hockey. shaggy already has her picture up and hast been self pleasuring himself all weekend. so you haven't missed anything.
September 1, 2008
12:42 PM
jay writes:
lol...again....you folks either need to up the meds or find another hobby....this one appears to be a little too stressful for you.
i've been in kansas in the middle of nowhere since thursday.
as far as "facts" are concerned...that seems to be an oxymoronic handle.
just in case folks are confused....here's the katrina time line again as confirmed by information from the congressional testimony on the matter:
"A year ago the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers proposed to study how New Orleans could be protected from a catastrophic hurricane, but the Bush administration ordered that the research not be undertaken. After a flood killed six people in 1995, Congress created the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, in which the Corps of Engineers strengthened and renovated levees and pumping stations. In early 2001, the Federal Emergency Management Agency issued a report stating that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S., including a terrorist attack on New York City. But by 2003 the federal funding for the flood control project essentially dried up as it was drained into the Iraq war. In 2004, the Bush administration cut funding requested by the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for holding back the waters of Lake Pontchartrain by more than 80 percent. Additional cuts at the beginning of this year (for a total reduction in funding of 44.2 percent since 2001) forced the New Orleans district of the Corps to impose a hiring freeze. The Senate had debated adding funds for fixing New Orleans' levees, but it was too late."
http://dir.salon.com/story/opinion/blumenthal/2005/08/31/disaster_preparation/
FRIDAY
At a 9/1 press conference, Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré, commander, Joint Task Force Katrina, said that the Gulf States began the process of requesting additional forces on Friday, 8/26…THROUGH APPROPRIATE CHANNELS…STILL 72 HOURS BEFORE LANDFALL
SATURDAY
Gov of Louisiana declared a statewide state of emergency…and also made SECOND formal request for federal troops the same day…24 hours before Katrina was upgraded to a cat 3 storm…and a full 48 hours before landfall
Also on Sat…“I have determined that this incident is of such severity and magnitude that effective response is beyond the capabilities of the State and affected local governments, and that supplementary Federal assistance is necessary to save lives, protect property, public health, and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a disaster.”---formal request made directly to W by Gov of Louisiana…verified by congressional hearings two months ago
TWO FULL DAYS BEFORE LANDFALL, in response to all of those requests the Whitehouse DECLARED A FEDERAL EMERGENCY after which the whitehouse said…”“Specifically, FEMA is authorized to identify, mobilize, and provide AT ITS DISCRETION, equipment and resources necessary to alleviate the impacts of the emergency.”…this is on SATURDAY mind you…still two days before landfall…when Katrina was still a Cat 3 storm….and several days after both Chertoff and W were warned that the levee’s could “fail” and produce a humanitarian “crisis”.
SUNDAY
“We were briefing them way before landfall. … It’s not like this was a surprise. We had in the advisories that the levee could be topped.’”—Dr. Max Mayfield, Director of National Hurricane Center…speaking of W and Chertoff’s knowledge of conditions on SUNDAY…still 24 hours before landfall
On Sunday, still 24 hours before landfall 36000 refugees arrive at Superdome…National Guard officially requests (through the appropriate channels) 700 buses for evacuation of people from Superdome and other collection sites in NO…FEMA responds with 100 buses…got the message…just inadequate response….WHAT IS NOW JUDGED AS ONE OF THE SINGLE DEADLIEST INCIDENTS OF LACK OF RESPONSE IN FEMA HISTORY
MONDAY
LANDFALL…7 AM
11 AM…INTERNAL WHITEHOUSE MEMO CIRCULATED THAT RELAYS INFO ON “SIGNIFICANT FLOODING THROUGH REGION” AND “A LEVEE IN N.O. HAS BEEN BREACHED AND HAS SENT 6-8 FEET OF WATER THROUGHOUT THE 9TH WARD”…again verified during congressional hearings…maybe the reason W didn’t get the memo was that he was still on vacation and officially “unplugged”
11:30 AM…BROWN FINALLY OFFICIALLY REQUESTS 10k TROOPS FROM DHS GO TO GULF COAST REGION…ALLOWS THEM 2 DAYS TO GET THERE…AND THIS IS IMPORTANT FELLAS…THIS ACTION IS 48 HOURS AFTER W DECLARED A FEDERAL STATE OF EMERGENCY AND GAVE FEMA THE AUTHORIZATION TO “MOBILIZE AND PROVIDE AT ITS DISCRETION, EQUIPMENT AND RESOURCES NECESSARY TO ALLEVIATE THE IMPACTS OF THE EMERGENCY”…AND AGAIN…72 HOURS AFTER GOV OF LOUISIANA DECLARED STATE OF EMERGENCY AND MADE TWO FORMAL REQUEST FOR TROOPS. IT IS AFTER THIS TIME IN THE CRISIS THAT EXPERTS HAVE PROVEN THAT MOST OF LOSS OF LIFE TOOK PLACE…again verified by the congressional hearings…requests for troops by Blanco have been confirmed by the head of Katrina Task Force…who of course reports to Dir of FEMA
8:00 PM…Gov Blanco again makes request directly to W for more federal assistance as current response is “grossly inadequate”.
W goes to bed without responding to her request
TUESDAY
11:00 am...more than 24 hours after landfall…Rummy said on behalf of Pentagon that the number of federal troops and resources in the area are adequate.
First reports of widespread looting and death are reported on CNN, MSNBC, FOX News.
11:OO AM Fema staff members OFFICIALLY (by phone, text message and email according to congressional inquiry) advise their boss that people are dying at the Superdome…once again verified by congressional testimony
The USS Bataan, a 844-foot ship designed to dispatch Marines in amphibious assaults, has helicopters, doctors, hospital beds, food and water. It also can make its own water, up to 100,000 gallons a day. And it just happened to be in the Gulf of Mexico when Katrina came roaring ashore. The Bataan rode out the storm and then followed it toward shore, awaiting relief orders WHICH NEVER CAME FROM THE PENTAGON. Helicopter pilots flying from its deck were some of the first to begin plucking stranded New Orleans residents. But now the Bataan’s hospital facilities, including six operating rooms and beds for 600 patients, are empty.
WEDNESDAY
1:45 AM…FEMA REQUESTS AMBULANCES FOR DYING RESIDENTS BUT DOESN’T RECEIVE THEM BECAUSE AS ONE FEMA EE WAS QUOTED “WE WERE TOLD THE DOT DOESN’T DO AMBULANCES”
11:OO AM Fema staff members AGAIN AND OFFICIALLY (by phone, text message and email according to congressional inquiry) advise their boss that people are dying at the Superdome
12:00 AM Federal Troops arrive…2 DAYS AFTER LANDFALL, a full 4 DAYS after federal emergency was declared, and 5 DAYS after the Gov of Louisiana OFFICIALLY REQUESTED THEM
W ARRIVES BACK FROM HIS VACATION…NOW DECLARES THAT HE’LL FLY BACK TO WASHINGTON AND FORM A “FEDERAL TASK FORCE TO COORDINATE RESPONSE”…2 DAYS AFTER LANDFALL
AFTER TWO MORE CALLS TO THE WHITEHOUSE GOV BLANCO GETS W LIVE ON THE PHONE AND AGAIN REQUEST FEDERAL TROOPS…ASKS SPECIFICALLY FOR ASSISTANCE IN N.O. AND REQUESTS 40K TROOPS…”WHATEVER YOU HAVE”
THURSDAY
7:00 AM… “I don’t think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees.”—W, first official press conference. Max Mayfield, Director of National Hurricane Service reportedly starts breaking stuff in his office.
September 1, 2008
1:32 PM
Anonymous writes:
jay if I click my heels three times will you go back to Kansas?..Please!!
September 1, 2008
2:57 PM
Suomynona writes:
Palin's nomination is insulting to women. He picks a woman with little experience overall and NO foreign policy experience, who thinks because she has five children she understands the plight of struggling women in the country. There are so many more qualified women in the GOP that he could have picked if all he wanted was a token. As a woman, how dare he think he'll try to get my vote by virtue of his VP's gender?
OBAMA all the way.
September 1, 2008
2:58 PM
Suomynona writes:
Palin's nomination is insulting to women. He picks a woman with little experience overall and NO foreign policy experience, who thinks because she has five children she understands the plight of struggling women in the country. There are so many more qualified women in the GOP that he could have picked if all he wanted was a token. As a woman, how dare he think he'll try to get my vote by virtue of his VP's gender?
OBAMA all the way.
September 1, 2008
2:58 PM
Suomynona writes:
Palin's nomination is insulting to women. He picks a woman with little experience overall and NO foreign policy experience, who thinks because she has five children she understands the plight of struggling women in the country. There are so many more qualified women in the GOP that he could have picked if all he wanted was a token. As a woman, how dare he think he'll try to get my vote by virtue of his VP's gender?
OBAMA all the way.
September 1, 2008
2:58 PM
Suomynona writes:
Palin's nomination is insulting to women. He picks a woman with little experience overall and NO foreign policy experience, who thinks because she has five children she understands the plight of struggling women in the country. There are so many more qualified women in the GOP that he could have picked if all he wanted was a token. As a woman, how dare he think he'll try to get my vote by virtue of his VP's gender?
OBAMA all the way.
September 1, 2008
3:00 PM
Anonymous writes:
jay at least you should try and mix up your writing style when posting under a different name to make it a little harder to detect that it is you giving you kudos like in your 12:23 PM post.
Makes it to easy for us.
Beings you have been out of town, lol, I will inform you that Obama only received a small bump. Nothing significant.
Less than Gore, Kerry, Dukacis and Clinton.
September 1, 2008
4:28 PM
Suomynona writes:
Palin's nomination is insulting to women. He picks a woman with little experience overall and NO foreign policy experience, who thinks because she has five children she understands the plight of struggling women in the country. There are so many more qualified women in the GOP that he could have picked if all he wanted was a token. As a woman, how dare he think he'll try to get my vote by virtue of his VP's gender?
OBAMA all the way.
September 1, 2008
5:06 PM
Facts Are Still Facts writes:
Well, the fact is this time the governor pushed the mayor to do the natural thing and evacuate the below-sea-level city and there will be no loss of life.
Long drawn out posts to the contrary, and lying posters also to the contrary, the second major hurricane to strike New Orleans will be a totally different human experience because the city was evacuated. Flooding still may occur but trying to blame Bush for the fact that this city is perennially prone to flooding because of its geography is another dim-witted partisan political attack.
This seems to be the trend in the current political cycle and idiots abound.
September 1, 2008
5:08 PM
leftside writes:
Jay, don't you love it when an "anonymous" poster tries to uncover a name changing scam.
Is that "conservative courage" or "conservative intelligence"? LOL!!!
September 1, 2008
5:24 PM
Sammi on the rightside writes:
FactsASF keeps blowing jayhole out of the water over this Katrina sham. Why is it that democrats will support corrupt leaders who should be in jail for failing in their basic duties AND RE-ELECT THEM to boot? That must be why that politician who had 90 grand on ice is back in congress.
The whole election for these democretes is based on bush running again - that's why everything that dems screw up are twisted into a bush thing.
The huge fraction of voters who are independent and waiting already see through this incredibly weak game plan. With the top of their ticket lacking ANY leadership experience the only thing they can do is attack.
September 1, 2008
5:30 PM
Anonymous writes:
"As a woman"
Yea right, we believe you.
This is the oldest ploy since the start of the internet yet jay still uses it and thinks he is fooling everyone.
September 1, 2008
6:21 PM
leftside writes:
Sammi, Isn't this a better question for the Republican party?
"Why is it that democrats will support corrupt leaders who should be in jail for failing in their basic duties AND RE-ELECT THEM to boot?"
Yep, I asked that same question after Bush was re-elected.
"With the top of their ticket lacking ANY leadership experience the only thing they can do is attack."
Now your just confused. This is how the Republican party, thanks to conservatives such as yourself, can get a person like Bush elected and re-elected. Do you have a short memory or do you use the selective memory process?
September 1, 2008
7:06 PM
Sammi on the rightside writes:
Buttside:
Thanks for admitting that Obama has no leadership experience by invoking Bush. At least some of you far left loons can accomplish some basic reasoning.
LOL.
September 1, 2008
8:08 PM
leftside writes:
Sammi (no name calling needed)
I would never admit that but since you have no argument you have to do the "twisting" method try to ignore that fact.
Twist all you want but you just got caught making stupid statement. Be more careful next time. It'll be less embarrassing for you.
September 1, 2008
9:08 PM
Sammi on the rightside writes:
MR. ButtS.
You feel that Obama has more leadership experience than Bush did before he was elected?
Oh that's right. Being a community organizer trumps being governor of one of the largest states and local economies in our country....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH......oh excuse me.
I didn't mean to embarrass you.
September 2, 2008
6:56 AM
ML writes:
Palin's own mother-in-law was quoted as saying that, other than being a woman and a conservative, she had no idea what her daughter-in-law brought to the ticket.
September 2, 2008
10:31 AM
history buff writes:
I think Palin is a good pick for the GOP because McCain is trying to save the party from ruin. Palin has made a name fighting corruption among Republicans. The Bush years have given us Tom DeLay, attempts to make all lobbyists Republicans, war profiteering, and on and on. If the Republican party is going to survive, it has to stop acting like the Dallas mob.
September 2, 2008
10:54 AM
JMH writes:
I'm lovng this pick, it is totally blowing up in McSame's face...
"Hail to the Chief" is gonna sound real good in November with a hip-hop beat! haha...
Thank You McSame for self destructuing right on cue! Just please take this crazy chick with you and send here back to the frozen tundra!
September 2, 2008
11:10 AM
Go McCain writes:
Yep - the personal attacks and chest beating are proof positive that Palin is the right choice for the R party. The total experience quotient on the R side blows away the D party community organizer and his anti-change pick for VP - a choice that guarantees that the millions of Hillary voters will follow through on what the polls have been saying for over a year.
And those women will not take lightly the idiot left beating up on the candidate's daughter and her decision to start a stable family without the liberal pattern of birth controhomicide and single parent welfare families.
Now that is real change.
September 2, 2008
11:20 AM
leftside writes:
Your right History Buff. The problem I have with her is she may kick the good Republicans out missing the opportunity to do the right thing for the once great Republican party and kick the conservatives out.
This choice will in no way sway the Hillary supporters in the mass numbers the right was hoping for nor will it change the direction of the left leaning independents. They needed both things to happen and McCain messed that up as well. No Judgment!!!
September 2, 2008
11:36 AM
McCain in 08 writes:
The more the looney left beats up on Palin and her kids, the more women dem voters will not cast their vote for the inexperienced rock star who changes nothing with his pick of an aging Washington insider.
They will in fact vote for the McCain - Palin ticket in huge numbers along with Independents.
And there goes the dem presidential election for the third time in a row.
September 2, 2008
1:24 PM
jay writes:
the pollsters had to wait for mccain to step on his own johnson with his vp pick in order to see the post convention bounce.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html
September 2, 2008
1:36 PM
JMH writes:
McCain,
You are high if you think some crazy lady from Alaska who thinks woman aren't intelligent enough to make thier own reporductive choices is gonna sway away Hillary voters.
Hillary voters are HUGE pro-choice advocates mostly. What is really wrong here is the arrogance of McCain thinking all these women out there are just going to vote for another woman, especailly if she is for taking thier reproductive choices away.
Maybe Palin should have taught her daughter some reproductive lessons, maybe she wouldn't be knocked up! Sure seems like those "Abstanence Only" programs were a big waste of money!
September 2, 2008
2:28 PM
Anonymous writes:
jmh , stfu
September 3, 2008
10:28 PM
Barb writes:
How can anyone, especially republicans, support McCain's choice of this right wing NRA radical, Palin?
To anyone who cares about wildlife and the environment, she is a terrible choice.
I was going to vote for McCain if he chose someone like Mitt Romney, Joe Lieberman, etc. He lost my vote!
"Governor Sarah Palin has an EXTREME anti-conservation record on issues ranging from global warming, energy and drilling to wildlife and habitat protection.
Aerial hunting of wolves and bears
Palin is an active promoter of Alaska's aerial hunting program whereby wolves and bears are shot from the air or chased by airplanes to the point of exhaustion before the pilot lands the plane and a gunner shoots the animals point blank.
Palin offered a $150 bounty for wolves to entice hunters to kill more wolves with hunters having to present a wolf's foreleg to collect the bounty.
She actively opposed a ballot to end the aerial hunting of wolves by private hunters and approved a $400,000 state-funded campaign aimed at swaying people's votes on the issue.
She also introduced legislation to make it easier to kill wolves and bears and which would have also removed the aerial hunting initiative from the ballot and block the ability of citizens to vote on the issue.
The Board of Game, which she appoints, has approved the killing of black bear sows with cubs as part of the program and expanded the aerial control programs.
The media is currently looking into reports that state officials implementing one of the aerial wolf killing programs illegally killed five-week old wolf pups just outside their dens.
Global WarmingAs recently as August 2008, Governor Palin questioned whether man-made fossil fuel emissions are responsible for global warming, defying worldwide scientific consensus (Newsmax 8/29/08).
Endangered Species
Palin has repeatedly opposed the listing of endangered animals under the Endangered Species List despite overwhelming scientific evidence that such listings are warranted.
Polar BearThe U.S. Geological Survey predicts that loss of summer sea ice - crucial habitat for polar bears - could lead to the demise of two-thirds of the world's polar bears by mid-century, including all of Alaska's polar bears. The Bush administration has proposed listing the polar bears as threatened under the ESA to help protect polar bear habitat from threats such as oil and gas development.
Palin has actively opposed the listing of the polar bear despite the fact that Alaska's top marine mammal biologists agreed with the federal scientists who believed the bear should be listed. She wrote the Secretary of Interior urging him not to list the bear on the ground it might hurt the state's oil- and gas-dependent economy. After the bear was listed, she recently filed suit seeking to overturn the listing of polar bears.
Beluga WhalesAlaska's Cook Inlet beluga whales are a unique group of white whales whose numbers have dramatically declined in the past two decades due to pressures ranging from pollution to increased ship traffic. Governor Palin opposes the listing of the Cook Inlet beluga whales, citing the listing as a threat to oil and gas development, despite their genetic uniqueness and the fact that their numbers have decreased from 1,300 in the 1980s to about 350 today.
DrillingPalin is a strong supporter of drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, a vital wilderness area. It is home to hundreds of thousands of caribou who use the refuge as a calving ground, more than one million migratory birds, and countless other wildlife. It's the most important onshore denning habitat for female polar bears. Senator McCain himself has repeatedly voted to protect this pristine wilderness area. Palin is also a supporter of drilling in Bristol Bay and other offshore sites despite the risks to sensitive marine wildlife in the area, including the endangered polar bear and Beluga whale.
Clean Water and Pebble MineGovernor Palin actively campaigned against a state ballot measure this summer aimed at protecting Alaska's Bristol Bay. The mining industry seeks to develop a gold and copper mine in the area that would pollute the Bay's headwaters and threaten the spawning grounds for the largest remaining wild salmon run. The initiative would have prevented large-scale mining operations from dumping waste materials into salmon watersheds.
September 3, 2008
10:30 PM
Barb writes:
It shows how senile McCain is.
How can anyone, especially republicans, support McCain's choice of this right wing radical, Palin?
To anyone who cares about wildlife and the environment, she is a terrible choice.
I was going to vote for McCain if he chose someone like Mitt Romney, Joe Lieberman, etc.
"Governor Sarah Palin has an EXTREME anti-conservation record on issues ranging from global warming, energy and drilling to wildlife and habitat protection.
Aerial hunting of wolves and bears
Palin is an active promoter of Alaska's aerial hunting program whereby wolves and bears are shot from the air or chased by airplanes to the point of exhaustion before the pilot lands the plane and a gunner shoots the animals point blank.
Palin offered a $150 bounty for wolves to entice hunters to kill more wolves with hunters having to present a wolf's foreleg to collect the bounty.
She actively opposed a ballot to end the aerial hunting of wolves by private hunters and approved a $400,000 state-funded campaign aimed at swaying people's votes on the issue.
She also introduced legislation to make it easier to kill wolves and bears and which would have also removed the aerial hunting initiative from the ballot and block the ability of citizens to vote on the issue.
The Board of Game, which she appoints, has approved the killing of black bear sows with cubs as part of the program and expanded the aerial control programs.
The media is currently looking into reports that state officials implementing one of the aerial wolf killing programs illegally killed five-week old wolf pups just outside their dens.
Global Warming
As recently as August 2008, Governor Palin questioned whether man-made fossil fuel emissions are responsible for global warming, defying worldwide scientific consensus (Newsmax 8/29/08).
Endangered Species
Palin has repeatedly opposed the listing of endangered animals under the Endangered Species List despite overwhelming scientific evidence that such listings are warranted.
Polar BearThe U.S. Geological Survey predicts that loss of summer sea ice - crucial habitat for polar bears - could lead to the demise of two-thirds of the world's polar bears by mid-century, including all of Alaska's polar bears. The Bush administration has proposed listing the polar bears as threatened under the ESA to help protect polar bear habitat from threats such as oil and gas development.
Palin has actively opposed the listing of the polar bear despite the fact that Alaska's top marine mammal biologists agreed with the federal scientists who believed the bear should be listed. She wrote the Secretary of Interior urging him not to list the bear on the ground it might hurt the state's oil- and gas-dependent economy. After the bear was listed, she recently filed suit seeking to overturn the listing of polar bears.
Beluga WhalesAlaska's Cook Inlet beluga whales are a unique group of white whales whose numbers have dramatically declined in the past two decades due to pressures ranging from pollution to increased ship traffic. Governor Palin opposes the listing of the Cook Inlet beluga whales, citing the listing as a threat to oil and gas development, despite their genetic uniqueness and the fact that their numbers have decreased from 1,300 in the 1980s to about 350 today.
DrillingPalin is a strong supporter of drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, a vital wilderness area. It is home to hundreds of thousands of caribou who use the refuge as a calving ground, more than one million migratory birds, and countless other wildlife. It's the most important onshore denning habitat for female polar bears. Senator McCain himself has repeatedly voted to protect this pristine wilderness area. Palin is also a supporter of drilling in Bristol Bay and other offshore sites despite the risks to sensitive marine wildlife in the area, including the endangered polar bear and Beluga whale.
Clean Water and Pebble MineGovernor Palin actively campaigned against a state ballot measure this summer aimed at protecting Alaska's Bristol Bay. The mining industry seeks to develop a gold and copper mine in the area that would pollute the Bay's headwaters and threaten the spawning grounds for the largest remaining wild salmon run. The initiative would have prevented large-scale mining operations from dumping waste materials into salmon watersheds.
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