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August 1, 2008 10:38 AM

Race in the campaign - who started it?


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After bubbling under the surface since the primary campaign, race has popped to the surface - and both the Barack Obama and John McCain camps are pointing their finger at the other as the culprit.

McCain has accused Obama of playing politics with race for predicting that the likely Republican nominee and others in the GOP would try to scare voters by saying the Democrat "doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills." Obama's spokesmen denied he was referring to being black, although all the presidents on U.S. currency are white.

Obama senior strategist David Axelrod said Friday that race became an issue only when the McCain campaign cast a racial slant on Obama's remarks, which were made at a campaign swing Wednesday in rural Missouri.

The next day, McCain campaign manager Rick Davis issued a statement claiming that Obama had played "the race card" and calling the remarks "divisive, negative, shameful and wrong."

"We are not going to let anybody paint John McCain, who has fought his entire life for equal rights for everyone, to be able to be painted as racist," Davis said Friday on "Today" on NBC. "We've seen this happen before and we're not going to let it happen to us."

In fact, McCain voted against a federal holiday honoring civil rights leader the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. He has said he was wrong to vote against the establishment of the holiday.

Both sides face risks and opportunities, writes the Politico's Jonathan Martin.

Obama's pioneering status is inspiring to some voters and discomfiting to others, and the way in which race is discussed may push voters toward or away from him. McCain could benefit from discomfort with race or he could -- like Hillary Rodham Clinton, his predecessor in battling Obama -- be distracted and ultimately diminished by constant charges of racism, accurate or not.

Who's responsible for playing the "race card"? Will it matter to your vote?

Discussion

  • August 1, 2008

    11:34 AM

    Big_D writes:

    To me McCain placing Obama between Britney Spears and Paris Hilton in his advertisements is a direct take off on KKK propaganda. The image of a black man lusting after white women is a KKK standard. McCain is too old to pretend he doesn’t know this is as bad or worse than taunting with a noose.

  • August 1, 2008

    11:58 AM

    Shaggy aka Obamas typical bitter white person writes:

    Obama started throwing the race card right after he was the presumptive nominee.
    He said they are going to try to scare you because I have a funny name, I am immature and did I mention I'm black.

    Then he did it again three times this week.
    Obama is biting at the bit because Bush and McCain are not bringing up the race card so now he is just fabricating a prediction of what they are going to say.

    All I have to say is look at the polls Obama, you should be double digits ahead yet you are virtually tied.
    Where is all the hype coming from the left now when they were saying once a nominee is picked they will jump out into the lead?
    Well I guess at first they did but Obama has already peeked and is now being deflated.
    8 points in five days.
    Also the Democrats kept saying the reason they couldn't raise the money for the DNC is because Obama and Hillary were still campaigning and once a nominee is picked they will have no problem raising the required money.
    Guess what, a nominee has been selected and they still are around 10 million short.

  • August 1, 2008

    12:19 PM

    history buff writes:

    I was actually considering voting for McCain until he started the Rovian tactics. McCain makes remarks and videos that are full of racial subtext and then gets upset when Obama makes a self-reflexive statement about his own identity. I'm tired of the twisted character assassinations from the right. I hope Obama is a liberal. It is time to take the country in a new direction.

    BTW, did anyone see that a Bush judge ruled that Bush does not have dictatorial powers, and that executive privilege is not a defense to a congressional investigation of executive crimes?

  • August 1, 2008

    12:42 PM

    SASQUATCH writes:

    ACCORDING TO BILL CLINTON, Obama has introduced and played the race card--from the bottom of the deck.

    And how may times does BO have to remind us that he is black, that he doesn't look like all those presidents on one dollar and 5 dollar bills. BO even had to remind the Germans in Berlin that he looks "different" from other presidents who addressed them.

    His blackness is the only constant, the only thing BO can't flip-flop on. Therefore, that must be the only reson why those backing him will vote for him--he has fliped on everything else.

    Geraldine Ferraro, Dem VP candidate, had it right long ago: "If BO wasn't black, then he would have been dismissed as a serious candidate long ago" she said.

  • August 1, 2008

    1:03 PM

    SASQUATCH writes:

    Obama can't get past his constant "I'm black" and "I have a "funny name" reminders (both here and in Europe) because he is roadkill on the issues. TOAST. As Geraldine Ferraro pointed out, BO is a circus side-show and political geek that can't be taken seriously. And America is increasingly on to his bad race card act--one reason why BO can't crack 50% on the polls. Even loser Mike Dukakis enjoyed better than 50% and an 18 point poll lead at this stage of the game. Black is beautiful...except when you wear it on your lappel--and rub it in people's faces.

    And have you noticed how he has burried the angry and black Michelle? When you include the likes of Jerimiah Wright and his "hate-whitey" cult, everyone around Obama is black and pissed--and they all play that card to the hilt. Its all showing up in the polls.

    And since BO is running on his blackness and ONLY on his blackness, his blackness is the ONLY reason why I will not vote for him. Ferraro and I see eye to eye.

  • August 1, 2008

    1:34 PM

    Shaggy aka Obamas typical bitter white person writes:

    "I was actually considering voting for McCain"

    Yea right Buff, I was considering voting for Obama until he started throwing the race card out.
    I highly doubt you have ever voted anything but straight partisian.


    Hey Sas,
    Did you see where Pelosi called for a vacation for Congress instead of staying and working on an energy plan?
    Well around 25 Republicans stayed and went to the house to discuss energy plans.Ckeck this out, Nancy Pelosi had all the lights turned out and the T.V. cameras turned off and called the police to get the reporters out.
    This lady has 9% approval ratings and her book is a flop yet she cannot for the life of her understand why.

    btw, when Obama was speaking in Berlin saying they haven't seen anyone like him(black) speaking there did he not realize that Colin Powell and Condi Rice spoke there too?
    This guy is an idiot and he reminds us everyday.
    His polls are dropping daily and I have noticed his unproud wife isn't making the rounds at this juncture in his campaign..hehehe

  • August 1, 2008

    1:38 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    "Obama is black and pissed"

    Almost everyone who Obama associates himself with is black and pissed off.

  • August 1, 2008

    2:23 PM

    history buff writes:

    LOL. Geraldine Ferraro's comment shows the utter stupidity of this whole thread. I guess Popeye the Sailor wouldn't be who he is if he wasn't who he is. If John McCain was someone else's son, and not the son of an admiral, he wouldn't be who he is. If George Bush wasn't the son of a president, or Hillary Clinton the wife of a President, she wouldn't be who she is. The whole sub-text of that argument is that black people are getting special privileges they don't deserve. But I don't see why it applies to anyone else. George Bush was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple.

    The fact that Obama pulled himself up from humble origins, which is part of American mythology, gives him a desirable quality that McCain doesn't have. McCain was born privileged and he married money. Let's face it. The subtext of Geraldine's statement is racist.

  • August 1, 2008

    2:32 PM

    SASQUATCH writes:

    I detect a lack of respect for affirmative action here.

    And did you know that Barak and Michelle are both BLACK and that inflating your tires and getting a tune-up (new cars don't require them and old cars get smog inspections that could require them) is the new Saudi Arabia. These two angry imbeciles and affirmative action morons have a combined IQ lower than the loser's total in a low scoring soccer game.

    Pelosi's Benedict Arnold fandango is a disaster for the Dems. Turning out the lights and obstructing didn't save the world as she wants. And although its almost finished, this is still a time of war--hence my BA comment. Did you know that Bush could call the Dems back form vacation and hammer them on energy just like Harry Truman called the Repubs back in 1948? This could happen Monday!

    71% of Americans want to accelerate oil exploration and about 80% want a Manhattan Project energy progrm. The BO campaign is rapidly crumbling (Pelosi just gave it a big hit) and he is rapidly self-destructing; no wonder why he never topped 50% in any poll. The DNC is in chaos.

  • August 1, 2008

    2:34 PM

    sick of ignorant people writes:

    I suggest reading "Gook: John McCain's Racism and Why It Matters". Here's a link to an interview with the author http://tinyurl.com/68326h for all you who are uneducated about your own candidate.

  • August 1, 2008

    2:36 PM

    sick of ignorant people writes:

    I suggest reading "Gook: John McCain's Racism and Why It Matters". Here's a link to an interview with the author http://tinyurl.com/68326h for all you who are uneducated about your own candidate.

  • August 1, 2008

    2:45 PM

    SASQUATCH writes:

    Here is the latest book exposing Obama, the cult persona surrounding him and his leftist politics. If you liked "Unfit for Command" by O'Neil oand Corsi on John Kerry, then you will love this:

    http://ednews.org/articles/27835/1/NEW-BOOK-THE-OBAMA-NATION-LEFTIST-POLITICS-AND-THE-CULT-OF-PERSONALITY/Page1.html

    Great timing by the SWIFTYS again--and just as lethal!

  • August 1, 2008

    2:53 PM

    40acresandmymuleandNAMvetbennies writes:

    Silly me! I thought it had been played for the past 400 years. The Black GOP Jokers and Tokyo Roses are as follows: Tara Wall, Armstrong and Juan Williams, Steele, Connerly, Clarence Thomas, Sowell, Rev. Al Sharpton-Wal Mart paid criminal illegal Mexicans' lobbyist, JC Watts, Powell, Rice, etc.

  • August 1, 2008

    3:11 PM

    ML writes:

    "I highly doubt you have ever voted anything but straight partisian." - shaggy

    So tell us, Shaggy, when's the last time you ever voted anything by straight partisan?

  • August 1, 2008

    3:29 PM

    Shaggy writes:

    ML,
    As long as I have been old enough to vote, the Democrats have never ran anyone worth a crap, just like they are this election, for me to vote for.

  • August 1, 2008

    4:46 PM

    JW writes:

    I love the fact that not one of you jackasses bashing Obama has critisized ANY of his policies...at least not legitimately.

    Its all about character issues for you nutjobs. I suppose if you havent figured out yet that policy is WAY more important than who you want to drink a beer with...you never will.

  • August 1, 2008

    5:06 PM

    Shaggy writes:

    Well I guess if I am included as being a jackass I have repeatedly refuted Obamas no drill, pro abortion, even partial birth abortion stances from the beginning.
    I have refuted his capital gains tax and his windfall taxes on Oil companies.
    I have refuted all of his no no no policies on all sorts of energy policies, Nuclear, coal, gas, shale, ect.
    So I guess I don't know wtf you are talking about.

    The problem is is that 71% want to drill off shore and 49% think the surge has worked and yet Obama said he would still vote against drilling and sending in more troops.
    He also voted against all funding of our troops.
    I am sorry JW but this is going to cost him the election.

    I just wonder if you are going to man enough to say I was right all along when this happens.

  • August 1, 2008

    5:07 PM

    Marcus writes:

    Oh please. Obama has been playing this race card game ever since he entered the primaries. He likes to bait people into reacting to his overt racial jabs and he has an unusually low tolerance to non-racial criticisms that other's make - like Bill Clinton referring to his candidacy as a fairy tale.

    Such are the foibles of the weak and unqualified.

  • August 1, 2008

    7:12 PM

    ML writes:

    Shaggy, so I guess the answer to the question is "never". Don't you think that's just a little bit of the pot calling the kettle black?

  • August 1, 2008

    8:50 PM

    Karen Y. writes:

    Exactly Marcus. It worked against Hillary so why not stick with the race game for McCain? It really is all he has got to offer.

  • August 2, 2008

    11:51 AM

    KW writes:

    Karen - I wouldn't sell Obama too short just yet. I mean, he did deliver that amazing energy policy sermon, urging us all to keep our pressure gauges at the ready and to check our tires often.

  • August 2, 2008

    1:37 PM

    DenverGuy writes:

    I don't think anyone is playing "The Race Card." First of all, there are many race cards not just one.

    The real issues here are McCain's campaign tactics in general. McCain is playing the "Obama did something that could possibly after a lot of thought be looked at negatively and we're going to yell and scream about it until it’s an issue" deck of cards. I for one am sick of it and I hope it works against him. It’s clear that his promise to not be negative was BS.

    I only wish Obama would start playing the "Doddering old fool" card on McCain. When you have a candidate that thinks Iraq and Afghanistan share a border and that Czechoslovakia still exists, I think it is pretty clear his mind either never was too sharp or has fallen off a lot.

  • August 2, 2008

    3:17 PM

    dazvenginzks writes:

    I've recently joined and wanted to introduce myself :)

  • August 2, 2008

    4:19 PM

    Maria J. Quiroga writes:

    Oh my God! I hope this group of dumb McCain lovers don't send this "Nation" any lower than it is at the present. Hope we all don't jump out of a boiling "Kettle" into the "Fire" by voting(for more of the same with two brainless "DOLLS".....
    McKen and Barbie Doll!!!

  • August 2, 2008

    4:23 PM

    Karen Y. writes:

    DenverGuy: you are confusing McCain's pointing out Obama's shortcomings as a tease campaign. There is no innuendo involved. The items pointed out in the ads are based in fact - inconvenient as they are to the ObamaNation.

    Your guy is a lightweight with no real leadership experience. Why else would he need the help of the entire major network news to launch a lovefest propaganda tour through Europe? What did that prove other than Obama is trying desperately to create the illusion of leadership qualities he lacks?

  • August 2, 2008

    11:30 PM

    Invisi-Cain writes:

    McCain should be thanking the media daily that he doesn't receive the same level of scrutiny Obama does. He has reversed himself on everything and if all things were out in the open would have no maverick status to coast on.

    I love how one remark Obama made (which incidentally is true "risky" in his case is a euphemism for strange black and foreign) is being scrutinized so much, while the fact that McCain's policies are so wrong and arcane is forgotten. He HAS to focus on Obama. Betting soc. security with "drunk" wall street, overturning Roe v Wade, endless war (with anyone BUT Al Queda), opening up off shore areas for drilling when millions of acres (on land and off) are already open to drill on (its just a convenient climate for the pigs at Exxon etc.), and what amounts to trickle down economics... if his policies were out in the open he'd be done! What year is he from and how lucky is he that all the focus is on Obama.

    Talk about empty rhetoric all McCain and the repubs have is cynicism and a disdainful tone. You can say your "disappointed" in Obama but can't say why, people like him so he's a "messiah" (which conveniently rings of Muslim fanaticism), you come up with ridiculous non-issues dredged from every word Obama utters....sad. My favorite is the elitist carp! McCain is third generation naval academy (pretty sure he got in through his family connections) and that's not elitist? Than Obama going to the best law school in the country and receiving its most prestigious academic honor makes him wrong for the presidency...did I fall asleep and miss an idiot coup d'etat ...where stupid became the desirable norm? Oh wait no, 2000 and 2004 just felt like a bad dream.

  • August 3, 2008

    7:15 AM

    Smelling the Coffee writes:

    I agree Karen. You have hit the nail right on the head by pointing out that McCain is only highlighting the facts about Barack O's lack of presidential qualifications. The Obamanation, as you call it, is structuring their run on the illusion of a record of leadership and policy experience. Obama couldn't even remember which senate committee he works on, much less why his work there demonstrates leadership. I saw his Europe and MidEast tour as a facade designed to suggest broad based support when the media only portrayed staged crowds while the governments of all of these countries gave him only lukewarm and cautious regard. And why? because they know he is unproven, merely a flash in the pan so far. The left is working very hard to paint Mr Obama as a victim of racism when he is the source of that ugly sentiment. It was one of the factors that led to Clinton's loss to him. What they are doing is shameful, but they have little else to give America.

  • August 3, 2008

    9:28 AM

    Lol writes:

    I agree Karen. Thats why I prefer Gw Bush
    lots more experience. knows how to get things done
    very smart

  • August 3, 2008

    10:27 AM

    LOL'er writes:

    Another game plan that obviously has failed. If voters really believed that McCain was another iteration of Bush, the polls would reflect a wide lead for Obama.

    But they don't.

    Sorry Charlie.

  • August 3, 2008

    10:35 AM

    Marcus writes:

    Good summary Coffee. I think both the Obama campaign and the MSM have overextended themselves into a zone of cartoonish fantasy such that the trust and believability factor for the rock star messiah has been stretched way too thin.

    Now all Obama can stand on is his record of experience.
    And that is not a good thing.

  • August 3, 2008

    10:45 AM

    LOL'er writes:

    I just read Invisi's post and busted a gut how he accused McCain of having family ties that got him into the Naval Academy while trumpeting Obama's admittance into the nation's most prestigious law school.

    Liberals still can't recognize the hypocrisy of affirmative action and are still able to ignore its existence when they trip over themselves trying to call the kettle black.

    Too moronic to ignore.

  • August 3, 2008

    1:47 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    "Another game plan that obviously has failed. If voters really believed that McCain was another iteration of Bush, the polls would reflect a wide lead for Obama.But they don't"

    This is setting the bar really low LOL. Pub say they're not losing as badly as thought.lol

    On the Contrary

    No one with just a few days experience would be beating McCain if it wasn't for Bush. Nope its the right that can't explain why Obama is hot
    and McCain is not

  • August 3, 2008

    4:27 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    Delusions. McCain is the incumbent with all of the disadvantages. Obama has all the benefits including an unprecedented push by the main stream media. Even with all that, his is trailing McCain.

    Sad. Another Democratic defeat in progress.

  • August 3, 2008

    4:58 PM

    Smelling The Coffee writes:

    So true marcus. The dems are working overtime so that the Obamanation doesn't have to rely on his experience. A hollywood makeover if there ever was one.

    Won't work though....

  • August 3, 2008

    7:10 PM

    Smelling the feces writes:

    So False Marcus. The pubs are working overtime so the mccain camp doesn't talk about his experience.

    wont work either. Paris hilton can beat this fossil in election

  • August 3, 2008

    8:29 PM

    Marcus writes:

    LOL... this fossil is beating your rock star who has all the benefits of the liberal media's affirmative action to push him into the White House, but the polls don't seem to agree with this forgone conclusion. Why?

  • August 4, 2008

    6:21 AM

    party like a rock star writes:

    "LOL... this fossil is beating your rock star who has all the benefits of the liberal media's affirmative action to push him into the White House, but the polls don't seem to agree with this forgone conclusion. Why?"


    Is it bush?

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html

    Wow Marcus you are right


  • August 4, 2008

    8:07 AM

    JMH writes:

    If McCain is such a great leader, then why has he done nothing but follow Obama and try to attack?

    Being president is about leadership, not just who is better at character assassination. Granted, the GOP has nothing of substance to run on, but I find it telling that McSame never talks policy or ideas, just how bad he thinks Obama is...

    Of course McCain and the rich white guys club over at the GOP want to go down this race road. All they have is fear to sell! Sadly, it seems that there are alot of ignorant, scared people out there willing to buy it.

  • August 4, 2008

    8:33 AM

    Shaggy aka Obamas typical bitter white person writes:

    "but I find it telling that McSame never talks policy or ideas"

    Why don't I find this surprising that you have no idea what McCains policies and ideas are?
    Ohhh..Its because you are a blind partisain hack.

    If you had a clue you would understand that it is Obama who is shifting his stances to McCains.
    I think it is funnier than hell that McCain is making fun of how Obama previews himself as our savior.
    Obama is a narcistic elitist and people are starting to wake up and smell the PHONY...hehehe

  • August 4, 2008

    9:28 AM

    Shaggy aka Obamas typical bitter white person writes:

    "A week ago today, Obama had a three-percentage point lead and the candidates were even among unaffiliated voters. Today, McCain leads 52% to 37% among unaffiliateds.

    McCain is currently viewed favorably by 55% of the nation’s voters, Obama by 51%. That is the lowest rating for Obama since he wrapped up the nomination. Obama is viewed favorably by 83% of Democrats, 22% of Republicans, and 47% of unaffiliated voters. For McCain, the numbers are 87% favorable among Republicans, 26% among Democrats, and 61% among unaffiliated voters."

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll


    "Sixty-nine percent (69%) of the nation’s voters say they’ve seen news coverage of the McCain campaign commercial that includes images of Britney Spears and Paris Hilton and suggests that Barack Obama is a celebrity just like them. Of those, just 22% say the ad was racist while 63% say it was not.

    However, Obama’s comment that his Republican opponent will try to scare people because Obama does not look like all the other presidents on dollar bills was seen as racist by 53%. Thirty-eight percent (38%) disagree."

    same link as above

  • August 4, 2008

    9:35 AM

    Mr Bill writes:

    Why don't I find this surprising that you have no idea what McCains policies and ideas are?

    Hell he doesnt know what his policies are

    If you had a clue you would understand that it is Obama who is shifting his stances to McCains.

    Shaggy you are obsessed with stances.
    Have you been talking to Larry Craig?

    I think it is funnier than hell that McCain is making fun of how Obama previews himself as our savior.

    McCain ran that ad and equated him with Moses.

    Thats impressive.

  • August 4, 2008

    10:12 AM

    JMH writes:

    "Why don't I find this surprising that you have no idea what McCains policies and ideas are?
    Ohhh..Its because you are a blind partisain hack.

    If you had a clue you would understand that it is Obama who is shifting his stances to McCains." - shaggy

    More lies shaggy, it is McCain who is following Obama's lead on most policies (Iraq, SS, etc.) and yes, I know all too well what McSame's policies are - they are the same ones that are ruining our military and economy right now. He has FOLLOWED Bush over 90% of the time and his record shows it. It's a fact, I know you don't like facts that get in the way of your emotional rants, but sorry pal, it is a FACT.

    So keep it up with your little girl giggle as our great country goes to the dogs, but as soon as the lies, spin & immature nonsense are exposed from McSame's camp, you can bet we will see Obama's LEAD widen. Hell, Obama hasn't even gone on the attack yet and as we are seeing, unfortanatly for our country, attack ads work for the simple minded. McCain is bringing nothing positive to this election so far!

    That's right, Mr. Low-expectations, dispite all the irrelivant stats you want to post, Obama is STILL in the lead as are almost all Dems across the country. Though it is close now, though I believe this has alot to do with the fact the younger generations aren't being polled as much, due to cell phones and being busy. Typically it is the older people who have the time to answer tracking polls. By this logic, the fact that the older (and typically more conservative) Americans seem evenly split, should worry you. Also, the mainstream media and McCain have made this election all about Obama, which is hurting him some now. Looks like your "Left wing media" BS is being exposed for really being a corporate media as they have basically given McSame a pass to this date.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html

    One thing though to look at is the "ground" itself...Not seeing too many "McCain" bumper stickers out there and that is as a good indication as any. But seeing a ton of Obama stickers.

  • August 4, 2008

    10:20 AM

    ML writes:

    Shaggy, for you to call someone a "blind partisan hack" is truly the height of hypocrisy.

  • August 4, 2008

    10:36 AM

    Shaggy aka Obamas typical bitter white person writes:

    Mcain says yes to drilling.
    Obama says no.
    McCain will be our next President as 71% of Americans want to open up drilling as they are smart enough to know we need to quit spending 800 billion a year on foreign oil.
    If Obama is not up by 10-15 points come October he won't stand a chance...it will be all over..the conservatives haven't even got on board yet.

    btw, I havent seen those tire gages flying off the shelves...hehehe

    Obama has already peaked. Now he is slowly being deflated.
    I know it is hard on you Obama supporters but it is true and I think you all know it but refuse to believe it.
    Obama is a flake with no substance.
    Serious..Do you actually believe Americans are going to elect a far left Liberal like Obama?

    Actually the reason you don't see McCain bumper stickers is because Republicans don't go out and get all mushy over their candidate like Democrats do.
    Republicans don't go out and protest like Democrats and Liberals do.
    Remember the last study done on bumper stickers?
    Most people who don bumper stickers are aggressive and want to further their personal agendas out.
    Fits the Democrats and Liberals to a tee.

    Show me a car loaded with bumper stickers and I will show you a hate filled Liberal.

  • August 4, 2008

    10:37 AM

  • August 4, 2008

    10:53 AM

    ML writes:

    Still have those 2 Bush bumper stickers on your car, Shaggy? You must be so proud.

  • August 4, 2008

    10:57 AM

    Anonymous writes:

    leave it to liberal partisan hacks to blame the stupidity of voters for the recurrent failures of the democratic party. Now it is clear why they will not win for a THIRD time against Bush.

  • August 4, 2008

    11:14 AM

    jay writes:

    of course they're trying to divert voter attention away from the real issues of the presidential campaing. mcsame and the republicans simply can't run on policy stances because the majority of americans support the dem's stances on the issues before the country. they also can't run on their track record because it has been such a failure...again...according to the vast majority of americans.

    so...how do you get people to vote for you when you can't talk about what you stand for or what you've done to deserve the job?

    you attack the other guy.

    you know the really sad part of the equation is that they do this because it works. there are millions of people out there who are naive, uneducated and gullible enough to vote against their own best interests for the sake of flag pins, wedge issues and swiftboats.

    btw, shaggito...just refusing to acknowledge that they've been debunked and therefore spouting the same tired old myths isn't really helping your credibility here.

  • August 4, 2008

    11:37 AM

    Shaggy writes:

    "Now it is clear why they will not win for a THIRD time against Bush."

    LOL too funny and so true.
    This will really get the loons squawking..hehehe

  • August 4, 2008

    12:45 PM

    JMH writes:

    Keep those predictions coming shaggy... It's always a blessing for us.

    I find it laughable that a few polls show McCain tied with Obama and they are claiming victory. Too funny. Nevermind that the majority of polls show Obama ahead & he hasn't even started attacking McCain for being a crazy, senile, flip-flopping baffoon who only cares about the rich that he is.

    You can always tell that the GOP knows Obama is in the lead, since they are the ones who feel compelled to attck. Granted that is all they got...

    Obama is the one acting presidential at this point, but keep trying to scare the knuckleheads from the trailer parks NeoCons... it will work only fro so long. McSame is throwing everything he has at Obama and it has only made a dent. He has gone negative way too early, at some point Americans are gonna ask McSame - "what do you offer?"

  • August 4, 2008

    1:59 PM

    Shaggy aka Obamas typical bitter white person writes:

    JMH,
    Do you understand that if Obama isn't 10-15 points ahead he is destined to lose?
    Do you understand that McCain is double digits ahead in most likely voters?
    Do you understand that Obama has already peaked and has been on a downfall ever since?
    Why do you think he now wants to some off shore drilling, do you think it has anything to do with the fact that 715 of Americans want to start drilling off shore?
    This guy will say and flop any direction the popular vote is headed.
    The guy is a clown with no substance or policies.
    Name me ONE stance he has stood firm on since he started the race?
    There isn't one, all of his stances he used to beat Hillary have now been changed.
    He has never stood up to anyone or anything.

  • August 4, 2008

    2:28 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    Yep - all the Obamanation and his minions have to fall back on is his record of experience - and we all know what a long drop that is ...

    In the meeantime, copying McBush's positions should delay things a bit.

  • August 4, 2008

    4:39 PM

    Tbone writes:

    Lemme get this straight....so if Obama isn't up by 15 points in the polls, he's losing?

    Does that mean if he doesn't win the election by 15 points, he loses?

    I thought republicant's didn't care about polls?

    If a poll shows Obama winning, does that really mean McSame is winning?

    Is there an issue mcsame hasn't flipped on?

    Wait, wait....is Obama the antichrist or the messiah? Is he too black, or not black enough?

  • August 4, 2008

    4:47 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    shaggy, what have we told you about spouting the same tired old debunked myths?

    get another tune...no one is dancing to this one anymore.

  • August 4, 2008

    7:41 PM

    Anonymous writes:

    It is dizzying trying to follow Mr. Obama's policy "shifts". Each day brings about a new position that contradicts his prior emphatic declarations to the opposite, and then he smiles and says his position hasn't changed at all.

    Now which is it? Is this the candidate of change or not? Why can't he admit he practices exactly what he preaches - constant change?

  • August 4, 2008

    7:42 PM

    It's a 180 Again writes:

    It is dizzying trying to follow Mr. Obama's policy "shifts". Each day brings about a new position that contradicts his prior emphatic declarations to the opposite, and then he smiles and says his position hasn't changed at all.

    Now which is it? Is this the candidate of change or not? Why can't he admit he practices exactly what he preaches - constant change?

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