October 27, 2008 2:06 PM
Did Musgrave 'lie detector' ad go over the line?
Rep. Marilyn Musgrave's campaign has gone up with an ad featuring an impersonator in the role of her opponent, Betsy Markey, failing a lie detector test.
Is the ad fair? Effective? Goofy?
October 27, 2008
2:31 PM
Angie writes:
It is disturbing that people like Musgrave who hold themselves out as Christians are the first to tell despicable lies when their backs are against the wall.
October 27, 2008
2:34 PM
ML writes:
I cannot believe the Denver Post actually endorsed Musgrave, one of the most corrupt members of Congress. The ad? Just SOP for the GOP.
October 27, 2008
2:48 PM
gr8fuldude writes:
I'm no lawyer, but I thought it was borderline slander or defamation, since nowhere on the screen are any disclaimers about "This is a dramatization" or anything like that.
Were I Musgrave, I would have a hard time watching that "I approve this ad" disclaimer. Jmho.
October 27, 2008
2:57 PM
Tbone writes:
Is that you, Angie Paccihione?
October 27, 2008
2:59 PM
sam18 writes:
She didn't get my vote, these ads have gone too far
October 27, 2008
4:20 PM
GladysKravitz writes:
As the incumbent you'd think Musgrave would campaign for what she is for and what she has done than wasting the voters time watching one attack ad after another. It seems that the only thing Musgrave as to run on is her opponents record rather than her own. So it begs the question...what's so special about Musgrave?
October 27, 2008
4:24 PM
666 writes:
Is it fair? No.
Is it surprising that Marilyn Muskrat would stoop to this? No.
The Republicans are desperate to continue bending the course of our future even further to the right, as they've done the past 8 years under Bush (who supported just about every GOP pet project in every state, no matter how questionable).
If our country were to bend any further to the right, we'd either snap like a twig or end up facing backwards.
October 27, 2008
5:17 PM
UncleZancle writes:
Musgrave's advertising has been weird to say the least. Defamation usually doesn't apply to public figures and you can be as creative as you wish.
What is puzzling me, why the Denver Newspaper Agency chose to boycott Tom Tancredo's announced run for Governor.
October 27, 2008
5:18 PM
UncleZancle writes:
Musgrave's advertising has been weird to say the least. Defamation usually doesn't apply to public figures and you can be as creative as you wish.
What is puzzling me, why the Denver Newspaper Agency chose to boycott Tom Tancredo's announcement for Governor.
October 27, 2008
5:20 PM
UncleZancle writes:
Musgrave's advertising has been weird to say the least. Defamation usually doesn't apply to public figures and you can be as creative as you wish.
What is puzzling me, why the Denver Newspaper Agency chose to boycott Tom Tancredo's announcement for Governor.
October 27, 2008
5:21 PM
UncleZancle writes:
Musgrave's advertising has been weird to say the least. Defamation usually doesn't apply to public figures and you can be as creative as you wish.
What is puzzling me, why the Denver Newspaper Agency chose to boycott Tom Tancredo's announcement for Governor.
October 27, 2008
5:48 PM
Anon E. Mouse writes:
This ad is reprehensible.
Musgrave has dipped into the sleaze from the very beginning...wassamatta, Marilyn; can't run on your own accomplishments?
Libel DOES apply to public figures.
And this ad states (by not putting up a disclaimer) that the person is ACTUALLY Markey, failing an ACTUAL lie-detector test.
Disssssgusting!
I hope an informed electorate will say "Why do you have to go there? Why can't you simply list your own positions and/or accomplishments."
October 27, 2008
7:04 PM
DEMSBETTER writes:
Mark Wolf,
I guess since I won't be filtered out here I will put up the posts the fascists at the RMN have filtered out of the skinhead assassination plot story.
• October 27, 2008
6:07 p.m.
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DEMSBETTER writes:
This is the problem with people spreading hate like Palin and her socialist comments. There are fringes of unstable people out there that need only an inkling of support from the mainstream to feel justified. This is sad and I don't blame the GOP for it, I blame them for not standing up against it. McCain and Palin better stop sowing hate because you reap what you sow, it is time for the GOP to split from their ultra right wing base and realize that people like this, Timothy McVeigh, and Eric Rudolf didn't start out as killers they were motivated by ideology. Take one look at Todd Palin and you will know the fringe is far too close. It is time to be an upstanding citizen John McCain and take back your comments.
• October 27, 2008
6:16 p.m.
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DEMSBETTER writes:
BigSky182,
“Don't blame us for the Nazi's and we won't blame you for the active Communists living in America. K?”
Pretty much Palin’s comments do exactly that. You want to reconsider your statement? Calling people socialist is pretty much exactly what you claim your party doesn’t do. Communism is a form of socialism and your euphemisms for what your party does is not accurate. A few years back there was a Republican named Joe McCarthy that did exactly what you are claiming Republicans are innocent of. Your party has a HUGE history of this so don’t think Republicans are clean from blame in any way shape or form.
• October 27, 2008
6:28 p.m.
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DEMSBETTER writes:
Look at all the Republicans on this page doing EXACTLY what they claim they don’t support. The truth about what the GOP has become is sad and not only Lincoln but Reagan would be ashamed of the GOP.
• October 27, 2008
6:31 p.m.
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DEMSBETTER writes:
By the way did any of you notice this guy has a GOP elephant tattooed on his right arm? I would bet that makes him a Republican.
• October 27, 2008
6:53 p.m.
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DEMSBETTER writes:
A large number of fiscal conservatives endorse Obama and are appalled at the current GOP.
So Mark Wolf do you think it is just a coincidence that my posts are hidden from view? Do you think it is just a bug in the software? Or do you realize you work for a right wing propaganda machine?
October 27, 2008
8:49 PM
DEMSBETTER writes:
John McCain and Sarah Palin integrity 0
Rocky Mountain News integrity 0
Spotting the GOP elephant tattoo on the “skin-head” implicated in Obama assassination plot, PRICELESS.
October 27, 2008
9:01 PM
DEMSBETTER writes:
So is it against federal election law for a newspaper to censor dissenting opinions from an “open” blog? Is it against the law for a newspaper to allow a candidate to be openly slandered on a blog? Is it slander to allow well known false statements about a candidate and their birth country and their citizenship? Is it against the law for a newspaper to give unequal time to a party during an election cycle?
October 28, 2008
12:39 AM
Amikeb1 writes:
I knew a relative of Musgrave in college. He said she was the worst person he had ever met, and said she has been like a wicked step mother to the whole family. Even he wasn't voting for her. If it weren't for the pro-lifers who will vote even the most corrupt, horrible people into office based on a pro-life, anti-gay stand, people like this would never be our leaders.
October 28, 2008
8:29 AM
gr8fuldude writes:
Uncle -
Why would libel and slander and defamation laws not apply to elected officials? Last I saw, the Colorado and US constitutions do not have any disclaimers about being exempt if you are elected to public office. Some might even suggest that we hold out leaders to (gasp) a higher standard. Imagine that.
October 28, 2008
8:32 AM
Socialist party of america writes:
Markey never went to far in her ads either. Nice!
October 28, 2008
10:06 AM
Dirk Digler writes:
what a silly and sophomoric ad. The part that kills me is when Muskrat states she approves of the nonsense
October 28, 2008
8:05 PM
Tree writes:
8dude-
"over the line"
Musgrave needs to take one toke over the line and relax. I just heard that song on the radio again the other day and the DJ came on and said it was banned from airways back in 1971. But Vietnam was OK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQrNWZ4Y5tU
October 29, 2008
12:10 AM
BillORights writes:
Musgrave and her gop need to go.
the gop - guns oil and perjury.
Maralyn Musgrave was a strong supporter of the most incompetant and corrupt admin in us history. This is coming from a woman who smuzzles with dick cheney- who outed active cia operative victoria plame, fed phoney info to Judith Miller and then quoted her as a independent source, gave the throttle to phony documentation tying saddam to al queida,(even though al quieda wanted saddam dead and was trying to get king fahd and others to sponser the mujahdeen to fight against saddam), stonewalled federal investigations, directed millions to the Lincoln group to dissiminate phoney prewar info to go along-dont ask question media, mr yellowcake, centrifuge, marginalized realistic generals such as Gen. Eric K. Shinsekiand who wanted more troops and were punished for saying so, setup colin powell, setup a huge illegal wiretapping system , and illegal kidnappings, secret prisons, torture.
The republicans brough us closer to the administration of Chiles General Pinochet.
Even the constitution,the geneva convention and habeus corpus were severely compromised by this administration that musgrave coddled.
US citizens didnt mind that but they do mind when the economy goes south. that they care about.
so the party of economic responsibility has shown it is as good as that as with everything else they have touched.
October 29, 2008
12:13 AM
BillORights writes:
Musgrave and her gop need to go.
the gop - guns oil and perjury.
Maralyn Musgrave was a strong supporter of the most incompetant and corrupt admin in us history. This is coming from a woman who smuzzles with dick cheney- who outed active cia operative victoria plame, fed phoney info to Judith Miller and then quoted her as a independent source, gave the throttle to phony documentation tying saddam to al queida,(even though al quieda wanted saddam dead and was trying to get king fahd and others to sponser the mujahdeen to fight against saddam), stonewalled federal investigations, directed millions to the Lincoln group to dissiminate phoney prewar info to go along-dont ask question media, mr yellowcake, centrifuge, marginalized realistic generals such as Gen. Eric K. Shinsekiand who wanted more troops and were punished for saying so, setup colin powell, setup a huge illegal wiretapping system , and illegal kidnappings, secret prisons, torture.
The republicans brough us closer to the administration of Chiles General Pinochet.
Even the constitution,the geneva convention and habeus corpus were severely compromised by this administration that musgrave coddled.
US citizens didnt mind that but they do mind when the economy goes south. that they care about.
so the party of economic responsibility has shown it is as good as that as with everything else they have touched.
October 29, 2008
8:32 AM
gr8fuldude writes:
Tree - Speaking of one toke, I think you were the one who first shared this, but still pretty funny:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye3ecDYxOkg
October 29, 2008
10:10 AM
DEMSBETTER writes:
GOP is trying to suppress the military vote: http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2004/10/21/overseas/index.html
October 29, 2008
10:12 AM
DEMSBETTER writes:
GOP is trying to suppress the military vote: http://www.greatfallstribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081007/OPINION03/810070343
October 29, 2008
10:16 AM
DEMSBETTER writes:
Sorry that story was from 2004 when they tried and succeeded at the same thing. Here is the new article: http://www.greatfallstribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081007/OPINION03/810070343
October 29, 2008
1:04 PM
Zeke writes:
I wish I was in Musgrave's district so I could help vote her out of office. I have yet to see a Musgrave ad that wasn't an attack ad. What does she stand for? Does anyone really know?