October 27, 2008 9:54 AM
Is Obama's 'redistributive" interview the GOP's 'October Surprise?
An interview given by then-State Sen. and college professor Barack Obama in which the Democratic presidential candidate talks about the value of "redistribut[ing] the wealth"
is getting big play on conservative media and Internet sites.
Both Fox News
and the Drudge Report have featured the story in the lead position of their Web sites.
Politico's Ben Smith reports:
The context of the clip appears to be the civil rights movement, and the fairly commonplace observation (stated beginning with Martin Luther King) that the '60s movement succeeded in winning African-Americans legal rights but stopped short of lifting them out of poverty.But Obama's professorial talk about "redistributive change," while perhaps an accurate way to talk about an agenda of raising taxes on the rich, sure isn't the language he'd use today.
Obama legal advisor and Harvard law professor Cass Sunstein, said today that Obama's 2001 remarks on "redistributive change" -- pushed hard on the right today -- are being misinterpreted, and that he was actually articulating "conservative" legal principles, and that the then-law professor's "law-speak" was being misinterpreted.
Obama's remarks came in a long interview on civil rights and Constitutional law with two other law professors on the Chicago public radio station WBEZ in 2001. Sunstein argued that Obama is discussing redistribution in a relatively narrow legal context: The discussion in the 1970s of whether the Supreme Court would create the right to a social safety net -- to things like education and welfare. He also noted that in the interview, Obama appears to express support for the court's rejection of that line of argument, saying instead that the civil rights movement should aim for the same goals through legislative action.
"What the critics are missing is that the term 'redistribution' didn't man in the Constitutional context equalized wealth or anything like that. It meant some positive rights, most prominently the right to education, and also the right to a lawyer," Sunstein said. "What he's saying - this is the irony of it - he's basically taking the side of the conservatives then and now against the liberals."
The first mention of redistribution, which does not appear on the YouTube clip, comes when Obama discusses a 1973 Supreme Court ruling finding that there is no right to education.
October 27, 2008
10:50 AM
Shaggy writes:
"Is Obama's 'redistributive" interview the GOP's 'October Surprise?"
No, The fact that Obama refuses to release his correct BC required by the Constitution to be eligible for President of the United States.
Why is Obama fighting like hell to prevent from having to provide proof of where he was born.
His grandmother in Kenya said she witnessed him being born in Kanya. She was there.
Here is a list of records Obama refuses to provide:
1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- ' not available '
4. Harvard College records -- Not released
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- ' not available '
8. Law practice client list -- Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -- Not released
10. Embossed, signed, paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published -- None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
13. Your Record of baptism-- Not released or ' not available '
14. Your Illinois State Senate records-- ' not available '
Why is it that Obama refuses to let anyone know his past?
I think we have a right to know.
From the very little that we do know, we found out he likes to associate with radicals.
October 27, 2008
11:12 AM
Tbone writes:
Sorry shaggy, but that dog don't hunt.
The case was thrown out of the courts, because the judge said there wasn't enough evidence to suggest that Obama wasn't a citizen.
You're truly on the lunatic fringe if you still buy into the "Obama's not a citizen because he released his hawaii birth certificate" crap.
I mean, how would it be at all possible that through 12 years in the illinois legislature and 4 years in the US senate, that no one, FBI included, found out that he really wasn't a citizen?
Meanwhile, mclame was born in panama.
I think we need to investigate mcsame for not being a citizen. Who is john mclame? How can we know for sure?
October 27, 2008
11:20 AM
Truth writes:
The last gasp of a dying campaign. Don't worry Shag, in eight days it will all be over.
October 27, 2008
11:25 AM
ML writes:
Shaggy's got the tinfoil hat on again, I see.
October 27, 2008
11:28 AM
am 760 writes:
Poor shag, your world must be falling apart. Obama ahead in all the polls, udall kicking big oil bobs ass. Your still clinging to desperate measures that have been debunked here daily. What a fool you are. 100,000 people to see obama, 10,000 to see elway and mccain in Denver. Do the math, you don't seem to be on the winning side. One thing you have going for you though is, that your side loves to lie and cheat, so there is still hope for you that mark coffman and the repubs can still steal another election for you. Geez, than won't you be proud or being an american and your party. The party that doesn't believe in democracy and counting votes.
October 27, 2008
12:26 PM
Ben-Former Democrat writes:
I can't believe how stupid white people have become.
October 27, 2008
12:33 PM
Anonymous writes:
Gee Ben
you should not say such racist things
Jose the Plumber
October 27, 2008
12:35 PM
Shaggy writes:
Welcome to the Socialist States of America if Obama manages to con enough people into voting for him.
There must be a new strain of the bird brain flew epidemic going on for him to connive so many people into thinking he is something he is not.
Where are all the Constitutional worshipers that had their panties in a bind over the wire tapping of suspected terrorists but ignore the part where it defines the requirements of someone to be eligible to become President of the United States?
October 27, 2008
12:47 PM
Ben-Former Democrat writes:
Check that. I can't believe how stupid 35 to 40% of white people have become.
October 27, 2008
12:50 PM
Karl Marx writes:
Obama has my endorsement.
Er beteuerte seine gute Absicht.
Translated in English.
He assured me of his willingness.
October 27, 2008
12:55 PM
Veteran and PUMA for McCain-Palin writes:
Obama's own words from way back in 2001 proves he has a radical socialist/marxist agenda for America!
Obama admits in the interview that he believes the US Constitution should be changed to redistribute wealth. Obama is dangerous and too radical for Americans to support for POTUS!
This will hurt Senator Government!
Oh, and BTW, breaking news on the LA Times today. They are refusing to release video of Obama with radical Khalidi at an anti-Israel party.
October 27, 2008
12:59 PM
cassidy22 writes:
Shaggy - man, how dense can you be?
The grandmother that raised Obama is in Hawaii. He was born in HAWAII. He didn't even GO to Kenya until he was an adult, and after his father had passed away.
He HAS shown his birth certificate.
As for the other stuff...
He doesn't HAVE to release medical files (HIPAA, anyone?)
He doens't have to release client lists - client/lawyer privacy laws.
And who the HECK cares about his baptismal record? What does that tell anyone?
As for his collegiate papers, you can probably find them at the library at Harvard. Sorry if no one has scanned them all for you and posted them on the internet. Whatever piece of dirt you are looking for, you aren't going to find it.
You need to start thinking about the ISSUES instead of this stuff that has been debunked over and over. It scares me that people like you can vote. You obviously are focused on the wrong things right now.
October 27, 2008
12:59 PM
SASQUATCH writes:
THE VERY SAME GUY WHO WILL PUT HIS HAND ON THE BIBLE AND SWEAR TO DEFEND AND UPHOLD OUR CONSTITUTION....
...could also be the very same guy who plans to scrap and jetison it? How could that be? That's a disqualifier from the get-go! Wouldn't that be a sure-fired recipe for a very short political life?
October 27, 2008
1:00 PM
ML writes:
Shaggy, you should really remember the old adage that states it is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
October 27, 2008
1:05 PM
Bob writes:
Might be, but any intelligent discussion about this was hi-jacked by Shaggy and his over the top witch hunt post.
October 27, 2008
1:08 PM
cassidy22 writes:
Shaggy - man, how dense can you be?
The grandmother that raised Obama is in Hawaii. He was born in HAWAII. He didn't even GO to Kenya until he was an adult, and after his father had passed away.
He HAS shown his birth certificate.
As for the other stuff...
He doesn't HAVE to release medical files (HIPAA, anyone?)
He doens't have to release client lists - client/lawyer privacy laws.
And who the HECK cares about his baptismal record? What does that tell anyone?
As for his collegiate papers, you can probably find them at the library at Harvard. Sorry if no one has scanned them all for you and posted them on the internet. Whatever piece of dirt you are looking for, you aren't going to find it.
You need to start thinking about the ISSUES instead of this stuff that has been debunked over and over. It scares me that people like you can vote. You obviously are focused on the wrong things right now.
October 27, 2008
1:14 PM
JW writes:
"THE VERY SAME GUY WHO WILL PUT HIS HAND ON THE BIBLE AND SWEAR TO DEFEND AND UPHOLD OUR CONSTITUTION....
...could also be the very same guy who plans to scrap and jetison it? How could that be? That's a disqualifier from the get-go! Wouldn't that be a sure-fired recipe for a very short political life?"
One would fully think so...
Yet you want to vote for McCain after he voted for the MCA of 06, so apparently, NOT.
$50 says you voted for Bush twice as well, so OBVIOUSLY NOT.
October 27, 2008
1:25 PM
Dan R writes:
Veteran - PUMA. For God's sake, learn how to read - or should I say comprehend. That's not at all what he's saying. What he's saying is that social activists (and by that I don't mean socialists - just people who care about the well-being of others) should NOT focus their attention on the courts making things better for themselves and/or others, but should instead do what Barack is doing - get people involved in the process so they can make things better for themselves through community involvement. To stop being victims and take charge of their own lives if they want things to change. To NOT rely in the courts to rescue them but instead rely on themselves to change what they don't like. After all, isn't THAT the American dream!
October 27, 2008
1:26 PM
Dan R writes:
Veteran - PUMA. For God's sake, learn how to read - or should I say comprehend. That's not at all what he's saying. What he's saying is that social activists (and by that I don't mean socialists - just people who care about the well-being of others) should NOT focus their attention on the courts making things better for themselves and/or others, but should instead do what Barack is doing - get people involved in the process so they can make things better for themselves through community involvement. To stop being victims and take charge of their own lives if they want things to change. To NOT rely in the courts to rescue them but instead rely on themselves to change what they don't like. After all, isn't THAT the American dream!
October 27, 2008
1:31 PM
DougH writes:
The October Surprise is a little late as a great deal of the country has already made up their minds as Obama keeps rising in the polls.
Any story that is being carried by Fox News and The Drudge report is nothing but political posturing and propaganda. You can bet with certainty that there is no truth whatsoever in what they have to say.
People have started to figure out that Conservative misinformation from Fox , Drudge and Limbaugh is what got our country into the mess that we have. Eight years of George Bush Conservatism has been the biggest disaster for our country in memory.
It is sad that Conservatives have no agenda or solutions, all they can do is use smears and cheap shots to spread confusion and fear.
Oh yes, we just had 8 years of a guy who PUT HIS HAND ON THE BIBLE AND SWORE TO DEFEND AND UPHOLD OUR CONSTITUTION.... and then tried to destroy our constitution with his abuse of executive power. The very same George Bush
October 27, 2008
1:31 PM
Purl Gurl writes:
Only true surprise I find about American presidential elections this year is a vast majority of Obama supporters are adamantly bent on rendering America a pseudo Marxist nation. This call for rendering America a socialist welfare nation by Obama and his supporters, this truly does surprise me.
Quite ironic an American Indian, like me, an American Indian who has every right to "hate" America, is fighting to defend our Spirit of America, fighting to defend our American ideals, fighting to defend our founding principles of Freedom and Democracy.
There is no need for Osama Bin Laden and his Islamic terrorists to attack our America; we are destroying our country from within by calling for a Socialist America.
I am certain Bin Laden is enjoying a laugh.
Appears there is a Free Lunch in life, appears half or more of Americans expect a Free Lunch paid for by hard working successful Americans.
Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Give me all I want for free, I am an American! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! I do not have to work for a living, I am an American!
Gimme my welfare check, Barack!
When I was born, my peoples, we Indians, were not granted American citizenship, were not granted a right to vote. We fought long and hard for citizenship and a right to vote. We won.
Today, Americans are fighting for welfare checks in their mailboxes.
I believe I will pack up my family, head back to our Indian lands, then lead a life of honest hard work, of independence and of pride.
Our family enjoys pride, we will never become welfare recipients; we always have and always will earn our lunch.
Okpulot Taha
Choctaw Nation
October 27, 2008
1:35 PM
Pete writes:
Hey, has it occurred to any of you wingnuts out there that your jet-wrecking "hero" has been on socialist salary and healtcare since leaving Episcople High School (expensive elitist prep school) for the Naval Academy, the Navy and finally the Congress. That's right guys, all expenses paid for my the good 'ol US Government. If that ain't socialism then what is?
You can dish it out but I'll "betcha" (thanks Sarah)can't take it.
October 27, 2008
1:37 PM
Pete writes:
Hey, has it occurred to any of you wingnuts out there that your jet-wrecking "hero" has been on socialist salary and healtcare since leaving Episcople High School (expensive elitist prep school) for the Naval Academy, the Navy and finally the Congress. That's right guys, all expenses paid for my the good 'ol US Government. If that ain't socialism then what is?
You can dish it out but I'll "betcha" (thanks Sarah)can't take it.
October 27, 2008
1:37 PM
Pat writes:
Hey "Tbone"... the reason why the Berg v Obama case was dismissed was because the judge found that Berg didn't have "standing" to bring the case. There is a lot of evidence suggesting that Obama was not born on US soil. In additon, by his own admission he travelled to Pakistan in 1981 - most likely on an Indonesian passport. Indonesia does not allow dual nationality. Also, at the time, Pakistan did not allow US nationals entry into Pakistan. Obama is a criminal and a fraud.
October 27, 2008
1:37 PM
Pat writes:
Hey "Tbone"... the reason why the Berg v Obama case was dismissed was because the judge found that Berg didn't have "standing" to bring the case. There is a lot of evidence suggesting that Obama was not born on US soil. In additon, by his own admission he travelled to Pakistan in 1981 - most likely on an Indonesian passport. Indonesia does not allow dual nationality. Also, at the time, Pakistan did not allow US nationals entry into Pakistan. Obama is a criminal and a fraud.
October 27, 2008
1:41 PM
Shaggy writes:
Here is proof that a massive amount of people have no fricking idea what they are saying or who Obama is.
"cassidy22 writes:
Shaggy - man, how dense can you be?
The grandmother that raised Obama is in Hawaii. He was born in HAWAII. He didn't even GO to Kenya until he was an adult, and after his father had passed away.
He HAS shown his birth certificate.
My god idiot, he also has a grandma on his fathers side and he HAS NOT SHWON HIS BC.
The Democrats have photo shopped a document resembling a BC but they screwed it up horribly.
Obama has not and still refuses to provide what the Constitution requires for someone to be the President of the US.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78931
Where the hell do you people get your information?
October 27, 2008
1:42 PM
ActualThinker writes:
I was going to vote for Obama, I like that his website has complete full plans of how he plans to handle many issues (3 times as many as McCains), I like that he understands the economy and war much better than McCain, I'm glad he didn't get everything handed to him growing up like McCain and earned his way. BUT NOW I SEE HE HASNT RELEASED HIS BAPTISM RECORDS. There is no way I'd vote for a guy that can't tell me about his baptism, I'm switching sides.
This explains how people like Bush and McCain get any votes at all, people are more worried about what happened when they were kids than how they are going to react to REAL ISSUES TODAY.
October 27, 2008
1:43 PM
bropous writes:
Shaggy, Sasquatch:
BROKEN GLASS, people, BROKEN GLASS.
The Democrat Media is slanting the reporting to suppress Republican turnout. Do NOT buy their BS for a single minute.
Osama bin Urkel will NOT win this election. The Democrat Media knows that, and they are covering up EVERY controversy that would keep their boy from winning.
McCain by seven points nationally on Election Day. BANK on it. That privacy of the voting booth (which the Democrats want to give to union bosses) is a GREAT equalizer.
There are lots of folks telling pollsters they'd vote Osama bin Urkel because they don't want to be identified as "racist".
October 27, 2008
1:48 PM
Shaggy writes:
Pat you are right,
The judge said Berg didn't have standing to change the results of an Election.
We will see if the supreme court will uphold the constitution and over rule this judges decision.
October 27, 2008
1:50 PM
Roberto writes:
McCain should talk, his wealth is based on generations of his family involved in Slave Trade and owning cotton plantations all over with thousands of slaves working for the McCains.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2JPbQOHEkY
October 27, 2008
1:56 PM
JJL writes:
McCain was born in Panama, a US Territory. And, in fact, a motion was passed in the Senate that John McCain is a US Citizen. You can look it up, Urkel even voted for it.
Let's bring it down to the base, the only change that is going to happen in America is the party and the color of the guy in the White House, if he gets elected.
If you are under some delusion that a majority House, Senate and President is going to change the world, I bring you back to 1992, when the Dems had the exact same formula. No health care, no massive change in America, just more of the same old, same old.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this isn't going to be over at 9:01 PM Mountain Time. This isn't going to be over anytime soon. With the last two elections being dubbed steals, this one is going to be the closest and the most litigated in American History. This isn't an election, this is going to be payback.
And we could see Nancy Pelosi sworn in on January 20th. Now that would be a surprise.
October 27, 2008
2:01 PM
Phil writes:
Mc Same keeps harping that Obama wants to spread the wealth around, and he wants to buy up the bad mortgages with tax payer money to bail out the banks.
He also wants to protect small business like his wife's with a tax after expences of four million plus.
Also he shows up with his advisers this morning with the head of EBAY another Mc Cain small business!
Sorry Charley this old puppy just won't suck.
October 27, 2008
2:08 PM
history buff writes:
Too bad John McCain and the Bushies didn't get their way to have Social Security privatized. The exact calamity that Social Security is intended to prevent would have been enabled by the men keeping us safe from socialism.
Ideology is a convenient crutch for those people who don't have the ability to solve problems.
October 27, 2008
2:15 PM
am 760 writes:
Wow you righties live in a world of fear and dillusion. You were saying the same thing before Clinton got elected.
Well our country was a hell of a lot better off after 8 years of a dem as president than after 8 years of a repub president and policies.
Sit back and enjoy the new improved america, one where everyone does better not just the top 5%.
Really it will be okay, remember the surplus Clinton gave us, instead of the biggest debt in our history which the repubs have gave us. Guess you don't mind passing that debt to your children and grandchildren, such morals.
Remember the booming economy rather than this debacle we have now.
Once again the dems will have to come in and clean up the mess made by repubs but here we have typical righties, saying its going to be worse with Obama. Don't think it could get much worse than your boys have done.
October 27, 2008
2:18 PM
Anonymous writes:
Phil writes:
Mc Same keeps harping that Obama wants to spread the wealth around,
No, That would be Obama himself saying he wants to spread the wealth around, McCain is just repeating it.
October 27, 2008
2:20 PM
DenverGuy writes:
The right keeps trying to paint Obama as a socialist. Can't they think of anything better than that? This just another example that they don't have a positive vision for the future.
I just wish the right would actually start talking about the issues in a rational way instead of trying to smear the people that don't agree with them. They keep making the basic discussions of politics into this hysterical witch hunt.
Though I don't agree with them, I think the right's ideas about low taxes, small government, etc. are reasonable ideas that reasonable people could have. I wish they would show more respect for the people who disagree with them. I am tired of their constant fear-mongering.
Barack Obama is a moderate. He isn't radical in any direction and he doesn't have a radical personality. I predict that during his upcoming term, he will be pretty conservative. He has a history of making the left madder than the right.
October 27, 2008
2:31 PM
Tbone writes:
Here you go "Pat"-
In a 34-page memorandum and opinion, the judge said Berg's allegations of harm were "too vague and too attenuated" to confer standing on him or any other voters.
Surrick ruled that Berg's attempts to use certain laws to gain standing to pursue his claim that Obama was not a natural-born citizen were "frivolous and not worthy of discussion."
The judge also said the harm Berg alleged did "not constitute an injury in fact" and Berg's arguments to the contrary "ventured into the unreasonable."
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/20081025_Judge_rejects_Montco_lawyer_s_bid_to_have_Obama_removed_from_ballot.html
Frivolous and not worthy of discussion - kinda sounds like the mclame campaign.
October 27, 2008
2:32 PM
SirRealist writes:
It's all over but the actual polling, which if done honestly, will show our new president to be Mr. Obama.
And then you will see that the claims of how he will cause the ruination of America were all for naught, and you will be able to again sleep at night.
Not that McCain wouldn't have been a "good" president perhaps, but Mr. Obama has fresher, younger, more creative ideas that seem to be pretty fair-minded to all concerned. Remember that we've been partaking in "wealth redistribution" for years and years, under our progressive income tax system that has seen our
wealthy citizens taxed as much as 60% at times.
Instead of kicking and screaming about it, you may as well jump on board and see what you can do to help improve things. I think most everyone is going to see and experience some very welcome, very wonderful changes.
October 27, 2008
2:50 PM
zenboy writes:
I was thinking that this would be McCain's "October Surprise" but then I saw McCain saying a very similar statement eight years ago on Chris Matthew's Hardball (Tom Brokaw brought it up in yesterday's Meet the Press interview). Then it suddenly made sense - both McCain and his running mate are really robots that are programmed to reverse their positions and others, in an attempt to confuse the voters. That's right - they're Palindrones...the full expose could be found here: http://yooryoo.com/2008/09/evil-robotic-firm-unleashes-palin-drones-on-the-world/
October 27, 2008
2:53 PM
zenboy writes:
I was thinking that this would be McCain's "October Surprise" but then I saw McCain saying almost exactly the same thing eight years ago on Chris Matthew's Hardball (Tom Brokaw brought it up in yesterday's Meet the Press interview). Then it suddenly made sense - both McCain and his running mate are really robots that are programmed to reverse their positions and others, in an attempt to confuse the voters. That's right - they're Palindrones...the full expose could be found here: http://yooryoo.com/2008/09/evil-robotic-firm-unleashes-palin-drones-on-the-world/
October 27, 2008
2:57 PM
history buff writes:
If a graduated income tax equates with socialism in the minds of the right wing, then they are going to have to include people like Adam Smith and Teddy Roosevelt on the list of socialists.
I suspect that the people posting here have never studied government fiscal policy. Taxes, fees, fines, royalties, proceeds from sale, and other revenue gathered by the government is used for things like roads, the military, salaries, government buildings, grants for research, grants for education, etc.
Some people receive direct benefits, but most people receive indirect benefits. Your corporation may receive a government contract, you may drive on an Interstate freeway, the chicken in your casserole may be inspected for disease, the FBI may find the bank robber where you had your savings, Johnnie next door may get a scholarship and go to college instead of joining a gang, the military may kill a terrorist who would like to invade America and kill you, the government may keep toxic goods from entering the country through commerce, the government may force a toxic polluter to clean up its mess, the government may pay insurance on your company's payroll deposit so it won't be lost if the bank goes belly up.
Health care is the area where things may change the most under the Dems. But, again, there may be indirect benefits that aren't apparent to the average whiner. Poor people may receive pre-natal care, thus decreasing the cost of infant disease and rate of infant mortality. Do you know that the USA, the richest country on God's good earth, is 26th in infant mortality? Some people would say that is a sin.
October 27, 2008
3:14 PM
Tom writes:
Tbone,
Thanks for the data on Surrick's findings. I think you may be drawing the wrong conclusion, however. If Berg did not have evidence to support his claims that Obama's elligibility to run for POTUS was in question, Judge Surrick would have ruled favorably on the DNC's earlier motion to dismiss the case. The reason Surrick did not find with Berg is that his justification for "injury" isn't sufficient. The bottom line is this: Mr. Obama has had a very interesting past, which leaves room for doubt about his elligibility, even in the minds of some of his most ardent followers. There is no legitimate reason for him not to produce the documents that would put this question to rest. So far, his fans have made this more difficult by posting the bogus document, perhaps with good intention, but resulting in even more speculation. The best thing at this point is for his supporters to call for him to produce the required documentation. I find that I cannot vote for him at this point without a full disclosure of the documents. This should not require a court order, it should be done because Barak has nothing to hide.
October 27, 2008
3:22 PM
jay writes:
"The context of the clip appears to be the civil rights movement, and the fairly commonplace observation (stated beginning with Martin Luther King) that the '60s movement succeeded in winning African-Americans legal rights but stopped short of lifting them out of poverty."
yep.
bingo.
let's not make a mountain out of a molehill here.
October 27, 2008
3:38 PM
Anonymous writes:
"There is no legitimate reason for him not to produce the documents that would put this question to rest. "
That's crazy. If a person about to become one of the most powerful men in the world lets any two-bit punk push him around in court, he won't be living up to his power.
There are other agencies who have verified the authenticity of Obama's citizenship. Why should some WACKO have standing to demand its authenticity? What makes him so special?
If a member of the Federal Elections Commission was refused proof of citizenship, maybe there would be standing. It is amazing how some people think that any WACKO with a "what if?" sensation can drag anyone into court on a whim?
What if John McCain were a vampire? Wouldn't he be dead? A dead man can't be president, can he? Now there is a lawsuit for all you people who might have a screw lose.
October 27, 2008
3:54 PM
John Paul Telhomme writes:
Damned fools are making and can only make a big deal of this because they have nothing else to talk about. Obama's position regarding the courts is the same as Justice Scalia's: the court should not be an advocate for any position and it must not be used to leverage change. If you want change (reverse Roe for example) change the law (in Congress). Obama goes one step further: If you want to change the law (easily) make it popular so that the people's representatives will respond to the expression and needs of their constituents. This is actually conservative thinking. Liberals have always argued differently: That the Courts ought to and should right wrongs when they see them (example Gore v. Bush). The Supreme Court rejected that. So, Obama is right and the loud mouths are wrong.
October 27, 2008
3:56 PM
Anonymous writes:
Funny how McCain gladly produced hid BC and medical records.
We all know that Obama sent a brigade of investigators and attorneys to dig up anything they could on Sarah and her family.
Yet Obama could put this whole thing to rest if he would only produce a simple little paper showing he is following the Constitution requirements to be President of the US.
However for some reason Obama would rather send in a team of Attorneys to fight against producing his BC...why?
If he had nothing to hide, why would he fight against it. It makes no sense at all.
I don't think he can prove he his a Citizen.
I think his Dad changed his Citizenship when he enrolled him into public School in Indonesia, a requirement to attend. He never reverted it back to a US citizenship.
Another scenario is that Obama was born in Kenya then flown to Hawaii which would disqualify him.
TWO different Hospitals in Hawaii claim that he born in them. How can he be born in two different Hospitals?
There is a lot of fishy reasons to speculate about Obama but the main one is, why does he continue to refuse to present it and lay all this speculation to rest?
October 27, 2008
4:02 PM
Jim Kirk writes:
Are Paranoid Schizophrenics allowed to be president?
after all McCain heard voices of WMDS right?
He still thinks Iraq and Afghanistan can be democratized right? Those guys would rather hate us and blow each other up in the name of allah.
We should not elect some one who is insane.
Clearly McCain and Palin are nuts. They even think
Joe is a plumber.
he he he
October 27, 2008
4:10 PM
Tbone writes:
Jesus you guys are stupid.
For the millionth time: Obama HAS produced a verified, signed, sealed, state of hawaii live birth certificate.
Just because that's not good enough for some crazy ass fringe right wing wackos, doesn't mean its not good enough for the US Gov't.
End of story.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Do you crazies also think 9/11 was an inside job? Show of hands!
October 27, 2008
5:05 PM
PajamaPulitzer writes:
This would be no surprise if the MSM had pursued BO half as hard as they did Joe the Plumber.
Shaggy is dead right about Obama's secret history.
1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- ' not available '
4. Harvard College records -- Not released
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- ' not available '
8. Law practice client list -- Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -- Not released. THE COPY ON THE OBAMA WEB SITE HAS NO EMBOSSED STATE SEAL.
10. Embossed, signed, paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published -- None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
13. Your Record of baptism-- Not released or ' not available '
14. Your Illinois State Senate records-- ' not available '
October 27, 2008
5:15 PM
Joseph Goebbels writes:
How dare anyone question the credentials of my candidate? You have been presented with the full, unfiltered truth by our beloved media and our highly praised congress. Only fringe elements on the internet, talk radio and Fox dare to question our leader with lies that can't be backed up by proof. We have provided websites where we address the lies of our enemies. We will silence these voices of opposition soon enough by way of the Fairness Doctrine and our beloved leader and congress can raise our country and the National Socialist Party to new heights.
October 27, 2008
5:15 PM
PajamaPulitzer writes:
Tbone the brilliant: Factcheck.org is owned and run by the Annenberg Foundation who used to employ Mr. Obama and Mr. Ayers in their Chicago Community Orgaizer days.
And you are calling other people "stupid"? Wow dude! You need to be more aware of your surroundings before casting aspersions on others lest you appear "stupid".
October 27, 2008
5:18 PM
Joseph Goebbels writes:
How dare anyone question the credentials of my candidate? You have been presented with the full, unfiltered truth by our beloved media and our highly praised congress. Only fringe elements on the internet, talk radio and Fox dare to question our leader with lies that can't be backed up by proof. We have provided websites where we address the lies of our enemies. We will silence these voices of opposition soon enough by way of the Fairness Doctrine and our beloved leader and congress can raise our country and the National Socialist Party to new heights.
October 27, 2008
5:28 PM
PajamaPulitzer writes:
HEY WOLF. YEAH, I'M SCREAMING. HOW CAN YOU ASK WHETHER THIS IS AN "OCTOBER SURPRISE" WHEN YOUR OWN HEAVILY BIASED PUBLICATION HAS NOT YET REPORTED IT?
October 27, 2008
5:35 PM
LetsThink writes:
The more we uncover about Barrack Obama, the more frightened I become.
Shouldn't we do a very thorough search of the background of a person who might become the president of the United States????
This office is too important to make a mistake, from which America might never recover.
October 27, 2008
5:37 PM
Tbone writes:
pajama-
Walter Annenburg was a well-known republican. His wife supports john mclame.
So what's your point? That mcsame has ties to terrorists?
October 27, 2008
5:55 PM
Ben-Former Democrat writes:
Can anyone say reparations for the brothers and sisters?
October 27, 2008
6:08 PM
PajamaPulitzer writes:
Tbone: Do you do any research before moving your mouth?
October 27, 2008
6:09 PM
in his own words writes:
"Cass Sunstein, a Harvard law professor who is advising Obama", confirms the criticism of Obama as a redistributionist/socialist. In his remarks trying to explain away this interview, Mr. Sunstein does not refute that Obama wants to redistribute wealth, but that Obama thinks we "should aim for the same goals through legislative action."
Source: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Obama_advisor_pushes_back_on_redistribution.html?showall
October 27, 2008
7:05 PM
McCain and Palin now Dueling writes:
Palin is going rogue, talking off script about her wardrobe
everybody running to save themselves.
McCain now blasting Bush. Pubs think they're going to lose so everybody jumping ship 8 days out.
October 27, 2008
7:10 PM
McCain and Palin now Dueling writes:
Palin is going rogue, talking off script about her wardrobe
everybody running to save themselves.
McCain now blasting Bush. Pubs think they're going to lose so everybody jumping ship 8 days out.
October 27, 2008
7:26 PM
BenjaminF writes:
Apparently, McCain wants to eliminate the progressive income tax, despite the fact that some people are failing to make ends meet working two jobs, while others can afford private jets and 200 foot yachts. After all, some poor guy working for $7.50 an hour can just as easily afford a 20% tax as somebody who buys and sells baseball teams, right? Thanks, John - We're drowning and you want to throw us an anchor. I'd say that this, and not remembering just how many houses you own, makes it pretty clear where you stand economically-for and with the selfish, greedy fat cats who are fleecing us for a TRILLION DOLLARS! Throw the bum out! Now!
October 27, 2008
8:09 PM
ML writes:
You gotta watch this...the Ballad of Sarah Palin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwRnOHsRS48&feature=related
October 27, 2008
8:18 PM
incognitoboy writes:
i'm finding it increasingly difficult to believe that so many otherwise intelligent and seemingly rational people are being so thoroughly dragged along by the fearmongers and liars that run the right-wing hate machine, being fed a steady diet of toxic and vicious misdirection and misinformation and lapping it up like starving kittens at a bowl of milk, while their party's so-called leaders circle the wagons and do anything, say anything they can to save their own hides at the last moment, continuing the pointless charade even up to the hour of their undoing.
all the necessary investigations into all PERTINENT information required BY LAW have been done. no disqualifiers have been found. end of story. get used to it, get over yourselves, and wring your hands and rend your garments over your failing candidates while you still can. they'll be going home soon enough, and i sincerely hope you all elect to follow them back whence they came.
now, bugger off and try to get a life.
October 27, 2008
8:33 PM
BenjaminF writes:
Now Mr. McCain wants to institute a spending lid for the government at the onset of a deep economic depression? Flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, there you go again, Mr. McCain. What happened to your $300,000,000 bailout for underwater mortgages? Oh, I see, that's so last week. Well, Mr. McCain, that's exactly what President Hoover did when the Great Depression started. Didn't work out so well, huh? Don't let this dangerous clown anywhere near the helm of the ship of state! He'll run us even deeper on the rocks than W. has, and that's really saying something!
October 27, 2008
9:16 PM
DEMSBETTER writes:
I think the fact that Palin was in charge of Ted Stevens 527 group is going to be a bigger story. She was a cheerleader for the corrupt politician and the “bridge to nowhere”. Palin owes Stevens for getting her elected governor.
October 27, 2008
9:33 PM
An Independent Voter with Real Questions writes:
Why can't Obama step out from behind the rock star cardboard facade and own up to his words and actions?
He was a member of a racist church and never picked up on his congregations expressed feelings?
He throws out a major race card in suggesting on the stump that his opponents will point out that he "doesn't look like them" and then slinks away from the obvious meaning of the snipe.
Now he says what every far left liberal in politics already knows, which is that it is more important to redistribute wealth to a captured voter audience who will never escape poverty under Democratic policy, than to create wealth and elevate the poor from that never ending cycle of poverty. And then he runs from the obvious meaning of those words even after a prior interview reveals the same sentiment, again in his own words.
Why can't he just come clean on these glaring inconsistencies?
October 27, 2008
10:30 PM
Joe writes:
Shaggy was not wrong. Facts can be verified by anyone. If Obama has nothing to hide, then why be evasive? That's not conspiratorial. And... the judge did NOT throw out the case for lack of evidence. He dismissed it saying that Berg had no standing ...which in this case meant that as a private citizen, he had no right to police presidential candidates as to their eligibility, and he said that Congress has this responsibility... the democrat-majority congress of course, a decision made by a liberal judge. I still need to look it up, but I'm pretty sure the constitution says nothing about who has the right to police eligibility to run for president ...but DOES state that all responsibilities/rights not expressed in the constitution fall to the states and to the people of the United States. I'm going to do the research, but I think the judge made an unconstitutional decision in order to further his agenda of seeing Obama have no obstacles.
Joe, not a plumber, but someone Obama will tax because we're a 2-income middle class family with 4 kids.
October 27, 2008
10:36 PM
A Far Right Wing Loon With Personal Esteem Issues writes:
That Obama he just a racist, communist celebrity who is here to steal our money.
October 28, 2008
2:00 AM
Freefall writes:
And Why couldn't VP hopeful Plugs answer the FL journalists questions. He just got all pissy and we'll probably see her investigated like Joe was. Answer the questions and we'll leave you alone until you try to mess with the constitution.
October 28, 2008
5:57 AM
Ben-Former Democrat writes:
So now the Democrats are talking of taking away our tax breaks given on 401k's and putting them into Social Security? Stop this insanity. Stop the Democrats, they have gone dangerously left.
Change is all we will have left if Barack Hussein bamboozles his way into the White House.
October 28, 2008
8:45 AM
Shaggy writes:
Freefall,
Obama pulled the plug on that network from any future interviews because they asked some actual questions that need to be asked and Biden f'd it up so now they are off limits.
It is just amazing how so many people are being fooled by Obama, I am sure Obama is laughing his ass off and can't believe how many stupid people there are in America.
When Obama started his run he knew he had no chance in hell because of his radical past but now that he has a chance he has sealed all his past records because he knows he is illegible to become President.
Here we have a guy that is privy to top secret info and there's a good chance he isn't even a Citizen.
Un fricking believable.
If it turns out to be true, he should be tried for espionage.
However Obama could put all this to rest by just producing the papers but instead he has chosen to spend hundred of thousands of dollars to fight against producing ANY papers such as:
1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- ' not available '
4. Harvard College records -- Not released
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- ' not available '
8. Law practice client list -- Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -- Not released
10. Embossed, signed, paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published -- None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
13. Your Record of baptism-- Not released or ' not available '
14. Your Illinois State Senate records-- ' not available '
WHY OBAMA, WE WANT TO KNOW!!!!
October 28, 2008
8:48 AM
Observer writes:
Ben - Never Intelligent writes about reparations...LOL, I was wondering if it would be you or Shaggy to play the reparations card...Congrats! You win the "Bigot of the Day" award! What happened, your date once dump you for a brother?
October 28, 2008
8:56 AM
Anonymous writes:
I for one want Obama to win now, I think the left deserves to see just how bad it can get economically. The left does deserve a chance now to screw things up, sure there will be some changes, lots of people will lose their jobs, but I will survive and it will be fun to listen to all the loony libs on here complain how their lives now suck cause of their choice. Their were lots of little communists that were looking for that goverment hand out when they welcome in Communisim, they were real shocked when they ones that refused to work were shipped off to work camps. America deserves what happens next.
October 28, 2008
9:02 AM
Ben-Making Observations writes:
Observer,
Sometimes the truth hurts doesn't it?
Glad I struck a nerve in your moribund politica ly correct world. Your welcome for the my diverse point of view. Thanks for celebrating diversity with me.
October 28, 2008
9:02 AM
Shaggy writes:
Ben, You are absolutely correct about reparations.
The very first sermon Obama heard from the racist Rev. Wright that attracted to him to that church was labeled "White mans greed"
"http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2030111/posts
Obama even says in his book "that is just how the white folk will do ya"
He also writes in his book:
"A steady attack on the white race, the constant recitation of black people's brutal experience in this country, served as the ballast that could prevent the ideas of personal and communal responsibility from tipping into an ocean of despair. Yes, the nationalist would say, whites are responsible for your sorry state, not any inherent flaws in you. In fact, whites are so heartless and devious that we can no longer expect anything from them. The self-loathing you feel, what keeps you drinking or thieving, is planted by them. Rid them from your mind and find your true power liberated. Rise up, ye mighty race!"---Obama
Can you believe this crap?
How could any American let alone a white American vote for this bigoted scumbag?
Unfricking believable.
October 28, 2008
9:20 AM
Ben-Making Observations writes:
Observer,
Sometimes the truth hurts doesn't it?
Glad I struck a nerve in your moribund politica ly correct world. Your welcome for the my diverse point of view. Thanks for celebrating diversity with me.
October 28, 2008
9:34 AM
Tbone writes:
Ahhh, look out for all the old white men rioting when Obama wins.
It'll make Rodney King look like Disney World.
I can just see shaggy and ben with their pitchforks, trashing a Volvo and a starbucks.
"How could any American let alone a white American vote for this bigoted scumbag?"
Shaggy, don't ever wonder why people accuse you of being racist.
October 28, 2008
9:39 AM
Tbone writes:
Ahhh, look out for all the old white men rioting when Obama wins.
It'll make Rodney King look like Disney World.
I can just see shaggy and ben with their pitchforks, trashing a Volvo and a starbucks.
"How could any American let alone a white American vote for this bigoted scumbag?"
Shaggy, don't ever wonder why people accuse you of being racist.
October 28, 2008
9:42 AM
chris writes:
There is no place in the race for President for affirmative action.
October 28, 2008
9:49 AM
Shaggy writes:
RumpRoast,
Pointing out Obamas many racist statements does not make me a racist...understand?
October 28, 2008
9:50 AM
jay writes:
"I for one want Obama to win now, I think the left deserves to see just how bad it can get economically. The left does deserve a chance now to screw things up, sure there will be some changes, lots of people will lose their jobs, but I will survive and it will be fun to listen to all the loony libs on here complain how their lives now suck cause of their choice."
let's make sure everyone understand this...including you, cruton.
we are in for YEARS of hardships because of conservative policy decisions of the last 8 years....no matter who is in the white house next.
October 28, 2008
10:18 AM
SASQUATCH writes:
THE MOTHER OF ALL IRONIES!
Think about it...the guy who might put his hand on the bible and swear to uphold and defend our Constitution, is also the very same guy who wants to jetison, scrap and dump it!
The guy is a die-hard Marxist.
October 28, 2008
10:53 AM
bob markinson writes:
The mind (I'm being very generous here) of a liberal:
Damn all those racist white people who refuse to vote for Obama. Unlike them I choose to be part of history by electing a black man to be president.
(and very few of these looney lefties appreciate the contradiction...)
October 28, 2008
11:00 AM
Shortcourse writes:
Everyone is about to witness the Greatest Lie. The Koran teaches that it is O.K. to lie to infidels if it furthers the cause of Islam. Did BHO accept Jesus as his Lord and Savior and become BAPTISTED in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit? If BHO is a Christian, why is all of his records sealed and hidden? John 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.
October 28, 2008
11:10 AM
Shortcourse writes:
Everyone is about to witness the Greatest Lie. The Koran teaches that it is O.K. to lie to infidels if it furthers the cause of Islam. Did BHO accept Jesus as his Lord and Savior and become BAPTISTED in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit? If BHO is a Christian, why is all of his records sealed and hidden? John 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.
October 28, 2008
11:12 AM
Tbone writes:
shaggy-
No, but saying things like "no white person should ever vote for Obama" DOES make you a racist.
October 28, 2008
11:18 AM
Anonymous writes:
The Koran also says once a Muslim always a Muslim.
Obama studied the Koran.
Obama has been surrounded by people who hate America.
Does Obama share their views?
Well, he did spend 20 years in a Church that hates America only to denounce them once he was found out.
In fact, Obama has made it a common practice to dissociate himself from people and organizations who threaten to expose him.
That is why he is fighting so hard from having to release past documents.
October 28, 2008
11:26 AM
Shaggy writes:
For one thing I didn't say that but even what you posted does not make someone a racist.
If you would say" no white person should ever vote for a black person", I would agree that that is racist.
However,no one said anything like that.
Let me ask you if voting for someone ONLY because they are black racist?
How voting for someone who is a racist makes the voter a racist?
October 28, 2008
11:27 AM
Fireproof writes:
Everyone is about to witness the Greatest Lie. The Koran teaches that it is O.K. to lie to infidels if it furthers the cause of Islam. Did BHO accept Jesus as his Lord and Savior and become BAPTISTED in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit? If BHO is a Christian, why is all of his records sealed and hidden? John 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.
October 28, 2008
11:31 AM
Rigg writes:
Tbone writes: "The case was thrown out of the courts, because the judge said there wasn't enough evidence to suggest that Obama wasn't a citizen."
** Actually, Judge Surrick ruled the case as Dimissed as a U.S. Citizen does not have jurisdiction to question the eligibility of a U.S. presidential candidate.
In layman terms- His ruling is that a citizen has no right to ask if a candidate is able to run for president.
Nice try though.
October 28, 2008
12:21 PM
Shaggy writes:
How could any American let alone a white American vote for this bigoted scumbag?
October 28, 2008
12:28 PM
DEMSBETTER writes:
Welcome to the right wing slander fest. Shaggy and Ben are full of slander but the RMN never flags them. I wonder what web job they have at the Rocky Mountain News? I would think internal employees dominating the blogs could be considered a violation of equal time laws. Maybe the RMN should think about whom they are letting participate on their blogs and how far they are going.
October 28, 2008
12:36 PM
Anonymous writes:
I found the opinion dismissing the case against Obama based on his citizenship. Apparently, not every Tom, Dick or Harry has the right to sue in federal court. There is something called Article III standing that limits the right to sue. It looks like law suits trying to keep McCain off the ballot were dismissed for the same reasons.
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/28/
October 28, 2008
1:02 PM
Shaggy writes:
DEMSBETTER,
Are the black helicopters flying over your house at night too?
Conspiracy theories are running rampant among the left.
Has it been a full moon latley?
hmmmmm
No, I do not work for the Obama Mountain News.
I am just telling the truth about the plastic messiah and how he is nothing more than a con artist.
12:21 was not me but I did say that earlier and put in it context but the loons like to cherry pick.
Obama has made many racist comments about white people and I can back it up via Obamas book saying them himself.
October 28, 2008
1:07 PM
Ben-Former Democrat writes:
Demsbetter,
Thanks for the compliment, and, is this call for censorship from radical liberals, against those that have differing opinions than them now "normal" to you all? You are being an opinion bigot Demsbett. Another good example of radical liberal fascism now ingrained in my former party.
October 28, 2008
1:18 PM
Ben-Former Democrat writes:
Demsbetter,
Thanks for the compliment, and, is this call for censorship from radical liberals, against those that have differing opinions than them now "normal" to you all? You are being an opinion bigot Demsbett. Another good example of radical liberal fascism now ingrained in my former party.
October 28, 2008
1:52 PM
Ben-Former Democrat writes:
Demsbetter,
Thanks for the compliment, and, is this call for censorship from radical liberals, against those that have differing opinions than them now "normal" to you all? You are being an opinion bigot Demsbett. Another good example of radical liberal fascism now ingrained in my former party.
October 28, 2008
8:41 PM
HE HE HE writes:
Question for Righties
Why not invite W to stump for McCain?
HE is YOUR MAN isnt he?
October 28, 2008
9:36 PM
freemarketworks writes:
Joe Wurzelbacher blew it out of the water two weeks ago by exposing Obama as a re-distributionist (great new word). Now, in this 2001 interview, Barack Obama describes one of the “tragedies” of the “60’s Civil Rights Movement” was to not bring about legislative action to force wealth redistribution. An “October surprise?” I think not; however, it does reinforce Obama’s true economic philosophy.
I think Shaggy and Ben are right-on concerning Barack’s birth certificate and other important documents. Although not required to show these papers before the election, this birth certificate issue will come up if and when the Electoral College meets to elect and qualify Barack Obama as President.
October 29, 2008
5:56 AM
Ben-Former Blue Dog Democrat writes:
Obamma Hussein co-sponsored a gigantic tax increase with his Senate Bill S-2433, his Global Poverty Act. This ties the U.S. to the hip of the United Nations "Millennium Summit Goals." True and frightening!
This bill calls for the United States to be taxed in the amount of 0.7 percent of the U.S. Gross National Product equaling $845 billion to be sent to the U.N. to distribute to the world's poor. The claim that there is no money involved in S-2433 is partially true in that it never directly mentions the money needed to fund this act. However, when one reads the U.N. Millennium Development Goals, it is easy to find out where the money is hidden. It also ties the U.S. to all treaties governing laws, firearms, biological diversity, energy, our parental rights and on and on. May God help us!
Obamas' organization "Public Allies" is training community prganizers patterned after methods perfected by Communist Saul Alinsky! They want $500 million of tax dollars for operations.
See "rightpundits," Global Poverty Act. U.N. Millennium Development Goals when you Google these.
Yes, I hit the button just once previously. It isn't on my end I don't believe.
October 29, 2008
7:25 AM
Anonymous writes:
looks like a 60% dem congress in the making too
your hero ted Stevens (R)
just got elected....
to the BIG HOUSE lol
October 29, 2008
8:38 AM
Anonymous writes:
Why does Obama refuse to release his Citizenship papers?
If I were him I would be ecstatic to throw them into the faces of the Republicans and say here they are and that the Republicans were just playing the fear card again.
But he won't do it, not only will he not do it, he has hired a swarm of attorneys to fight against having to show the very papers the Constitution requires for eligibility to be President of the United States.
It will be a shame if he wins the election but fails to meet the requirements because he was not properly vetted in the first place and given a free pass for the past year and a half.
October 29, 2008
9:23 AM
history buff writes:
Obama has released his citizenship papers. He just doesn't like getting sued by a WACKO who has no grounds to sue him. I think it is good policy to let the WACKOS list in the wind. Clinton tried to play with them and look what happened.
Just say no to WACKOS.
October 29, 2008
9:35 AM
Anonymous writes:
The only papers Obama has produced were fabricated ones.
Obama currently has a hoard of attorneys fighting against releasing his official documents required by the constitution to become President of the United States.
Obama has not released any of his past records including Medical and Academic.
October 29, 2008
2:37 PM
jay writes:
"Just say no to WACKOS"
exactly.
i can't believe the folks on the right have been reduced to tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists.
it would be nice if ONCE...just ONCE in our modern political era of the conservatives could just campaign on their policy stances and track record.
October 29, 2008
5:20 PM
Ben-Former Democrat writes:
history bluff and jay
That's all you got?... "Whackos" for wanting a scrutinization of a presidential candidate? Par for the course.
October 29, 2008
9:13 PM
Chris writes:
The liberal main stream media has done more scrutinization of Cindy McCain and Joe the Plumber than they ever did of Nobama.