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Gay marriage would open the definition of marriage to include that which it has never been any part of it. Civil unions would be acceptable and would grant gay couples all the benefits of marriage except the Social Security provisions now defined in Federal law.
I wonder why gay activists must push this action when it would be a simple, and very much less controversial matter to have civil unions approved. I suspect we have a good old fashioned case of "I'm going to have it my way no matter what." Both sides have plenty of these people.
It's going down in flames if it makes the ballot. It will activate the far right to vote so there is some good it will do.
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sonflower writes:
This is the deal. I don't care if the gays have the same rights as the hetersexuals. My concern is this... if we agree to let gays marry what will our future generations(grandkids)think. I believe they will think that it is just another life style to choose. I don't know if gays are born that way or not. It is not natural. If it were than the human race would no longer exist.
Why is it that hetersexuals want to live together and the gays want to marry? This cartoon misses the point. Of the it is the drugs and the drinking that is distroying this marriage.
We are talking about life choices for our new generations.
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I wonder why people believe they are "protecting" marriage not only by not allowing others to participate in it, but also by saying civil unions should be good enough. The trouble is, if civil unions are good enough for gays then straights will start thinking they're good enough for them too; THAT is where the erosion happens.
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Gays are born prediposed to engage in homosexuality. Why should they be limited?
Others are born prediposed to engage in pedophilia. Why should they be limited?
Others are born prediposed to engage in beastality. Why should they be limited?
Others are born prediposed to engage in necrophilia. Why should they be limited?
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Others are born prediposed to engage in rape. Why should they be limited?
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Others are born prediposed to engage in XXXXX. Why should they be limited?
Think for a moment. The answer for each question is pretty much the same.
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HYHYBT writes:
Interesting idea of "pretty much the same"...
Homosexuality: shouldn't be limited.
Pedophilia: Direct harm to children.
Bestiality: Actually, the only people I hear any interest in
bestiality from at all are the ones who don't like gays. So go right ahead, if it makes you happy and your hamster doesn't bite you for it.
Necrophilia: if you got them to give permission before dying, again, go right ahead. Not over *my* dead body, though.
Polygamy: As long as they're all adults and legally equal in the relationship, why not?
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Exhibitionism: Should be limited because the ones who want to show it off always seem to be the ones no one wants to see.
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Ike writes:
Careful there, Vit! Those cotton pickin' gays are goin' ta getcha! What 2 consenting adults choose to do in a room away from public view damages you how? This behavior should be limited because you believe it should be, right?
"Because I'm the Vit and I said so!" isn't much of a reason for most of us here. Perhaps you can enlighten us as to why these folks should be limited. Please.
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1:45 PM
Vit writes:
For the greater good of society, deviant behavior should not only not be encouraged but should be discouraged.
Not with hate or animus towards anyone, but out of the need to protect the community as a whole.
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Ike writes:
There was a time during the history of the Roman Empire that Christianity was considered deviant behavior and practioneers were regularly fed to the lions. The Romans were only, after all just protecting their communities, Vit. Do you believe that this deviant Chrisitian behavior should still be disencouraged using the same lights and methods the Romans used to judge? My own thought is that human society and culture evolve and grows more accepting, or at the least more tolerant in order to remain viable and flourish.
Having known a few committed gay and lesbian couples over the years I believe they are not asking for anything special. Just want to be insured they are not discriminated against by those with closed minds.
Then there are those few sterling examples for the rest of us heathens like the Reverend Ted Haggard. He made a statement that he must have been abused by a man to fertilize his sexual proclivities in his later years. Me? I must have been abused by a woman!
Be that as it may, your point is still muddy and self righteous, but it is your opinion none the less. My own thought is you'll never have anyone in your family come out of the closet given your attitude and you may well miss out on how fine that person truly is.
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Vit writes:
So, given almost 2,000 years of history of what Christianity has given this world - some bad but mostly good, what will homosexuals add to society to prove the worth of the lifestyle?
Nothing of any serious value.
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I think it pretty much sums it up to say, things are going to change if you like it or not.
America gives you the freedom to be discriminatory (freedom of speech), but the government doesn't have the freedom to discriminate if we are a land based on freedom. The government shouldn't judge people based on anything: race, sex, sexual orientation, anything. We are of a country of freedoms that tout these freedoms, we are only being hypocritical by voluntarily restricted these freedoms to those who we deem "appropriate."
You might as well say a woman or a black person shouldn't be president or vote, because they might change things or somehow influence you. You're scared of your own shadow. Marriage laws for gays do not change your lifestyle in anyway, and the younger generation realizes this. For you to think it will or somehow turn your children gay is laughable.
Now to my point. Again. My parents are with some of you, that marriage is between a man and a woman. Of their three children (all heterosexual), we all disagree with them, we all think that marriage should be open to everyone, and we are more open to others sexual orientation and don't think it should be anyone else's business. We are all of legal voting age.
The older generation has put us into debt, has borrowed against our social security so we won't have any, put us into wars where our young friends are fighting and dying, and has thrust us into one of the worst economies since the 30s. This is what we are coming into adulthood dealing with. If you think we aren't going to start standing up and voting against you, for our future, for a better life. You're wrong. You've had your chance. A lot of you have failed us, your children and grandchildren.
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